Youngkin Wants to Jump-Start Economic Growth

Governor Glenn Youngkin delivering his State of the Commonwealth address. Photo credit: WTVF.org

by James A. Bacon

Governor Glenn Youngkin addressed many topics in his State of the Commonwealth address last week, ranging from the meltdown in K-12 education to the surge in suicides, drug overdoses, and homicides. But he spent the most time talking about Virginia’s declining economic competitiveness.

Once upon a time, making the Commonwealth economically competitive globally and within the U.S. was a primary preoccupation of Virginia governors and lawmakers, both Democratic and Republican. There was a bipartisan consensus that a rising tide lifts all boats, that the path to prosperity was attracting corporate capital, fostering technological and business innovation, creating jobs, and raising wages.

In the Age of Wokeness, you don’t hear the term “economic competitiveness” much anymore. For instance, at the University of Virginia the unremitting emphasis is on achieving “social justice” and, secondarily, combating climate change. The terms “wealth creation” and “economic prosperity” have dropped out of the vocabulary. UVa is hardly unique. The same priorities can be seen in the media, across higher ed, and, remarkably enough, in some of Virginia’s leading business lobbies.

Ironically, the more Virginia’s new ruling class has focused on social justice, the less of it we have gotten. In large measure that’s because Virginia is falling behind in economic competitiveness. The biggest losers in a stagnant economy are the working poor. Youngkin’s diagnosis of what ails Virginia is worth recounting.

The following passage comes from the State of the Commonwealth speech:

Our success is not gained in isolation – we face relentless competition from surrounding states.

We have to compete to win.

Despite the progress we have made over the past year, our path forward is directed by an undeniable set of disturbing facts.

Since the start of the pandemic, Virginia has been in the bottom ten for net OUT migration in the country.

The states we compete against for jobs and investment are on the opposite end of that spectrum. North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida and Texas are all in the top ten for net IN migration.

These states have grown by more than 1.7 million people while Virginia has lost over 32,000.

Make no mistake, this trend started before the pandemic. Virginia has seen out migration for nine straight years.

2013 was when the states we compete with for people, talent, and jobs started lowering tax rates for businesses or for families, or both and started moving aggressively to make their business climates more competitive.

Virginia fell behind.

When I took office, Virginia was 47th in the nation for job recovery from the pandemic. Since then, more than 85,000 more Virginians are working – placing Virginia now in the top 20 of states for job growth since the turn of the year.

But we still have 125,000 fewer Virginians working than before the pandemic.

And those states that we compete with most directly — North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida and Texas — have not only recovered all of the jobs lost during the pandemic, but they’ve actually added a collective 1.3 million jobs.

That data tells an undeniable story.

Virginians are moving to states with lower taxes and lower cost of living and as those Virginians pack up and move away so go the jobs, investments, and tax revenue they drive.

Across the United States in the last fiscal year alone, economic development projects were announced representing over 600,000 jobs and nearly $400 billion in capital investment.

What was Virginia’s share of those projects? Just 3.4%

All of our competitor states did better than Virginia, some more than double.

As I said in December, our competitor states won those projects because we weren’t cultivating our talent fast enough, because we weren’t building the business-ready sites, and because our tax burden was increasingly uncompetitive.

We were not competing to win. If we are honest, we were not even in the ballgame.

But that can – and must – change.

Virginia was a leader in economic growth in the 1980s and 1990s, and we can be again. The first step is recognizing that we have a problem. The second is diagnosing why we have a problem. Only then can we begin to devise strategies to address the problem.

Aside from raising more money for industrial and commercial site preparation, Youngkin is not asking to expand traditional economic-development programs. He wants to reform the public schools, the source of tomorrow’s workforce, tackle the high cost of living that’s pushing human capital out of the state, and address the high cost of business that’s pushing corporate capital out of the state. The quickest way to do that is to lower taxes, which is the centerpiece of his strategy. There’s more to be done, but cutting taxes is a good start.


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86 responses to “Youngkin Wants to Jump-Start Economic Growth”

  1. M. Purdy Avatar

    What, no mention of the enormous economic success his predecessor had?

  2. Teddy007 Avatar

    When a corporate Republican starts talking about economic growth in vague terms, one can be certain that it is really about internalizing some benefits while externalizing the costs.

  3. Virginia Gentleman Avatar
    Virginia Gentleman

    Geez. Another attack on Wokeness amd DEI. I think we understand your position.

  4. LarrytheG Avatar

    cutting taxes to stimulate the economy is apparently based on the premise that the State is not doing anythimg
    with the collected taxes other than storing in a vault and not spent in the economy.

    The state collects taxes and pays a state trooper or a teacher.

    Cut the tax and get rid of the trooper or teacher – and they no longer spend their salary in the economy.

    So the taxpayer gets that money and can spend it on something else.

    It’s not new or previously unspent money.

    Kansas tried this a few years back with Stephen Moore and Laffter’s urging and guidance and it was an unmitigated disaster.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_experiment#Results

    But Conservatives continue to peddle this snake oil.

    1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
      f/k/a_tmtfairfax

      So, why is North Carolina performing better economically than Virginia despite the greater federal presence in the latter? The Tarheel State engaged in major tax reform, eliminating many tax preferences and ratchetting down the tax rates.

      1. DJRippert Avatar

        But that would require the “myopic 140” in Richmond to think beyond Central Virginia. After all, the brilliant Garden of Eden created by Harry Byrd and maintained by The Virginia Way is an article of unmatched brilliance and beauty that must be preserved, regardless of the facts i evidence from other more successful states

  5. AlH - Deckplates Avatar
    AlH – Deckplates

    This governor, the Secretary of Commerce & Trade, Secretary of Education, VDOE, Secretary of Public Safety, Secretary of Finance, etc. have obviously developed a Strategic initiative which is planned, coordinated and is now being implemented. It is easy to see that developing. We are all beneficiaries of it.

    It is not difficult to see some of the successes, by measurement of company’s HQ changes to Virginia, such as Boeing, and planned expansions in all industries and services. Another big one is LEGO manufacturing plant. Now we are winning over many of our neighbor states in business development & expansion. That is NOT BY LUCK.

    And Virginia is a bigger participant in the Onshoring of manufacturing. We have one of the best seaports in the world, and certainly a rail & road system to promote that supply chain. We should use it and expand it. We need to have most all of our stuff Made in USA.

    Another draw in the continued focus is to improve K-12, colleges and universities. Our own pipeline for sought after skilled and professional labor. And a better mechanism in which business can identify the qualifications desired. Boeing’s expansion with VT, and the two-year schools’ focus on skilled labor are both good examples. While that is happening, our taxes are being lowered, and business taxes are expected to go from 6% to 5%. Virginia is becoming more attractive.

    Also, noteworthy is the effort to create a better environment for residents, such as a focus on reducing violent crime, and human trafficking. Our support of law enforcement is yet another improvement.

    I say give credit to where credit is due. The people working with the governor are working hard to make this a success for all of us. That is to benefit all forms of political bent. I am not “in love” with any of them, but if they do their job, then I can respect them. We all want our state to be successful. We can watch it, or just talk about it, or get involved in helping to create a successful outcome.

  6. Teddy007 Avatar

    When a corporate Republican starts talking about economic growth in vague terms, one can be certain that it is really about internalizing some benefits while externalizing the costs.

    1. M. Purdy Avatar

      Virginia was the best state to do business in for two years running (3 years total) under Ralph Northam, according to CNBC. During his tenure, it also attracted numerous major corporations, including the two big kahunas, Amazon and Boeing. He left office with the largest budget surplus in the state’s history. So I guess his woke policies were outstanding for the economy, right?

      1. DJRippert Avatar

        As has been repeatedly described in this blog, the Northam budget surplus was the result of non-conformance with federal tax changes, not economic growth.

        Raising taxes creates budget surpluses and decreases economic growth.

        1. M. Purdy Avatar

          How do you explain the CNBC ratings and attracting huge businesses? Presumably those companies didn’t agree with your assessment.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            He can hand-wave all of them away quite easily!
            😉 Anything Virginia, Northam in DJ’s book is bad darts.

          2. M. Purdy Avatar

            Facts are facts. Virginia thrived under Northam.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar

            Totally true – both state withholding and sales taxes came in quite good. The GOP is basically a
            one trick pony -” cut taxes and the economy will be “unleashed” ” It’s a wonderful and durable fairy tale after the Kansas disaster. Not sure I’ve ever heard the GOP “explain” what went wrong in Kansas, much less Steven Moore and Laffer.

    2. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
      f/k/a_tmtfairfax

      Sort of like what happens with illegal immigration.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        With the GOP, there is no GOP “approach” that they’d propose and be able/willing to find compromise with the Dems to advance the issue forward incrementally, step-wise in a continuing process.

        The GOP is unwilling and unable among the GOP to come up with a cogent approach to immigration.

        The Dems are willing to make heavy compromises but trying to deal with the GOP on immigration is like trying to deal with a multi-headed entity with no unified voice.

        1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
          f/k/a_tmtfairfax

          The Democrats are not willing to compromise on immigration issues. They would not, for example, accept a plan that gave permission to work but no citizenship to those illegal immigrants who have been here for a period of time and who have no criminal records, even if the Dreamers were given a path to citizenship. The Democrats would put some reasonable limits on chain immigration or codify the requirement that sponsors support immigrants, rather than allow them to use taxpayer funded support.

          Keep in mind that everyone who adopts a child from overseas must provide evidence of income, investments and overall ability to support such child. And with such proof, the child cannot come to the United States. But who cares about people who follow the rules?

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            Not true TMT. The Dems support a guest worker program like Canada has. They are willing to have a
            “path” for dreamers. I don’t know of a single thing they will not compromise on. OTOH, on the GOP side,
            there are things that they will not do and will not compromise on – even among their own party.

            What do you do with people that do cross the border? Can they apply for asylum? While they are waiting
            for a determination, what can they do? If we have thousands coming across the border every day applying for asylum, do we change the rules and tell them they can’t apply for asylum and they have to go back across the border – even if they are originally from some country other than Mexico? Does Mexico have to receive them back across the border? What is the GOP response to these issues? “Just say no?”

      2. Teddy007 Avatar

        Illegal and legal immigration is a Baptist-bootleggers situation where the cheap labor Republicans want to drive down labor prices while the Democrats want demographic change enough to make themselves the dominant political party. As California has shown, demographic change will cause prices to go up and will kill the markets where the cheap labor Republicans operate.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          well, the DEms have pretty much always been on the side of the worker and against workers being taken advantage of by employers – both citizens and immigrants and yeah, if workers think the Dems do that better, the Dems are happy with that being a constituency.

          Canada has a successful guest worker program and E-Verify is a valid program that the GOP refuses to support as required for all workers.

          The other thing about illegals registering to vote. Why would an illegal want to give the govt their address so they can be found and deported?

          The GOP is driven by anti-immigrant, “we will not be replaced”, “us against them” boogeymen…. and there is enough of their base that is that way that compromise is virtually impossible – EVEN when they have POTUS and both houses of Congress.

        2. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
          f/k/a_tmtfairfax

          Both parties are totally disgusting on illegal immigration. Meanwhile, Americans with lesser skills and education make less than they would if the border were controlled. And, as I’ve posted many time, I would come up with a plan allowing those already here illegally and without a criminal record to stay and work under a non-immigrant visa. But as more and more cross the border illegally, many Americans continue to suffer.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            The Dems would go along with your plan but the GOP would never. That’s the problem.
            In general, the Dems are willing to make compromises to get an agreement, ever heavy ones, whatever it takes. The GOP has no plan forward, they can’t even agree among themselves

  7. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    It does look like maybe Youngkin is screwing things up a bit as of late. Hopefully he can pull out of it…. maybe he has been paying more attention since his campaign season US tour…
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/58dd3f6da2edd45dddcc646dfe2a7777c67d183faf1609d228acb4e5611fa2e8.jpg

    1. Randy Huffman Avatar
      Randy Huffman

      Still growth for all of 2022, right? One or two months doesn’t make a trend. Youngkin also can’t act alone, there is a Legislative branch, just ask Biden.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        Is Youngkin responsible for the “growth” in 2022?

        1. Randy Huffman Avatar
          Randy Huffman

          Is Biden?

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            Nope. Is Biden responsible for inflation or the price of eggs or gasoline or baby formula?

          2. Randy Huffman Avatar
            Randy Huffman

            Regardless of what you or I think, he thinks so:

            https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/12/biden-says-inflation-slowdown-shows-his-economic-policies-are-working.html

            Remember a huge portion of Virginia economy is based on Federal matters out of any Governors control.

            Bottom line, and I think you and I would agree, no one Governor or President is fully responsible for any economic situation, but that does not mean they shouldn’t be held accountable for policies that affect it, and answer for it. Just like the questions on the Chinese battery plant, legitimate questions. But I think Youngkin had good reasons.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar

            both GOP and DEm claim pro and con… not worth warm spit.

          4. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            More so than Youngkin.

      2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        Welp, I guess you are correct. The Republican take over of the Virginia HoD could have contributed to the break in the Virginia employment growth record as well…

    2. M. Purdy Avatar

      Well, surely his battle against the “War on Merit” (i.e., third-tier high school national merit awards being sent late) will lead to more employment, bigger budget surpluses, and private investment!

  8. So, what’s with Youngkin rejecting the Ford Motor Company’s overtures re an electric battery plant in Virginia? If the Ford-China partnership was such a security risk, why is Ford in it at all? And why should Michigan get the plant instead of Virginia?

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      I saw that also. It’s FORD working with a Chinese contractor. Not a single US car is made 100% in America these days. It’s a worldwide supply chain.

      I’m surprised at Youngkin. I can only surmise
      he’s still considering a run for POTUS and is virtue signaling to his base.

      He basically is telling FORD to go elsewhere.

      What else will they take elsewhere?

      1. M. Purdy Avatar

        Perhaps if Youngking had a unified theory of anti-CRT and CCP, he could tie all of this “policies” together…hmmm, it’s coming, isn’t it?

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          The problem with the GOP these days is they’ve pretty much abandoned their roots of fiscal conservatism and gone full bore on culture war, supply side, conspiracy theories about elections, vaccines and climate and other foolishness their base seems to like.

        2. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          There is a grand unifying theory: the crypto-Marxism advocated by progressives to destroy American exceptionalism and dumb down students. Easy Peary to track the theory in BR articles.

    2. Randy Huffman Avatar
      Randy Huffman

      Per this article, the plant was to be owned by Ford, but operated by the Chinese Company, and he directed VPEP not to submit an incentive package. I saw elsewhere where he said Ford should not be a front for the Chinese, we should develop our own technology.

      https://dailycaller.com/2022/12/20/exclusive-gov-youngkin-pulls-virginia-location-consideration-chinese-deal-ford/

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        As Youngkin said, we are in competition.

        Until we actually develop our own technology, we need to continue to compete.

        If he is going to start looking at each economic development prospect with respect to these kinds of ideological things, we’re going to lose because other states are going to benefit from what we turn down.

        1. Randy Huffman Avatar
          Randy Huffman

          Ideological things? Did he block it like Biden blocked Keystone pipeline permits, or just not offer incentives?

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            He turned away economic development. I’m not good on BIden either. Neither is good.

            But Biden is all in on American Made !

          2. LarrytheG:
            “But Biden is all in on American Made !”

            Not energy production.

            The Biden Administration:

            “Tacitly compromising with the Maduro regime on oil production (although it directly benefits from the state-owned oil industry).”

            “Turning a blind eye to the greenhouse gas emissions from Venezuelan oil production while banning federal financial and technical assistance for similar projects in other countries—on the basis of greenhouse gas emissions.”

            “Allowing transactions to go through for Venezuela’s oil production, while aggressively pushing regulations across the U.S. financial sector to divert private capital away from the oil sector.”

            “Preferring oil imports over new production of abundant domestic oil resources. Oil from Venezuela certainly won’t strengthen American energy security in the long run, with Maduro being no friend of the U.S.”

            https://www.heritage.org/americas/commentary/venezuela-bizarre-piece-bidens-incoherent-energy-policy-puzzle

          3. LarrytheG Avatar

            Hey, you won’t convince me of anything by citing sources like Heritage, nor Daily Caller or FOX or similar, much less quoting them!

          4. “Hey, you won’t convince me of anything by citing sources like Heritage, nor Daily Caller or FOX or similar, much less quoting them!”

            Yet another way we differ. I will accept documented facts or well reasoned arguments from those with whom I disagree.

            There’s actually a name for your condition. It’s called confirmation bias.

            “Confirmation bias refers to the tendency to seek out and give undue credibility to information that supports a desired conclusion. Due to confirmation bias, a party may unduly discredit contradictory information to the desired conclusion, or incorrectly believe it to reinforce a minority viewpoint at best. Confirmation bias is similar to the concept of biased assimilation.”

            https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/confirmation_bias

          5. “Hey, you won’t convince me of anything by citing sources like Heritage, nor Daily Caller or FOX or similar, much less quoting them!”

            Yet another way we differ. I will accept documented facts or well reasoned arguments from those with whom I disagree.

            There’s actually a name for your condition. It’s called confirmation bias.

            “Confirmation bias refers to the tendency to seek out and give undue credibility to information that supports a desired conclusion. Due to confirmation bias, a party may unduly discredit contradictory information to the desired conclusion, or incorrectly believe it to reinforce a minority viewpoint at best. Confirmation bias is similar to the concept of biased assimilation.”

            https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/confirmation_bias

          6. LarrytheG Avatar

            Naw. I think there are actual credible sources of info out there but not the ones you like. “Confirmation” seeks out what you want to believe as opposed to purposely looking at a variety of sites including those that do not hew to your own beliefs. It’s like looking at WaPo, NYT AND WSJ as well as other sites to see what they do agree on and what is just one site or all of one philosophy say. Heritage, FOX and Daily has been caught purposely spreading misinformation so I don’t trust them as sole source. Whatever they say, I go to other sources to see if there is agreement. “Redefining” what Confirmation Bias is – is not a good thing. Do you believe the basic dictionaries out there or only the ones you like?

          7. The Heritage article I linked to has links to document each finding.

            But you probably didn’t even bother to look.

            Confirmation bias.

          8. How many times have you posted that?

            Do you not understand how energy production works? It takes lots of time, effort and funding to go from permit to production, and there are hundreds, perhaps thousands of ways a hostile administration can hold up, or kill, production along the way.

            In short, I’m not holding my breath.

            “TC Energy is seeking $15 billion in damages from the US government for the cancellation of the Keystone XL pipeline project, having filed a formal request for arbitration under the North American Free Trade Agreement.”

            https://www.spglobal.com/commodityinsights/en/market-insights/latest-news/oil/112321-tc-energy-seeks-15-billion-in-keystone-xl-damages-from-us-government

          9. LarrytheG Avatar

            THe point is that gas and oil permits have been expanding not stopped. That’s the truth. They Keystone is
            ONE pipeline that is opposed – at the same time many other pipelines have been approved and built.

            It’s a false narrative that cherry-picks ONE thing and claims it represents the Administration on all energy issues and it’s simply not the truth. The FACTS show MANY new permits and expanding permits.

          10. So, you don’t believe Biden will keep his promises? This isn’t “Heritage, nor Daily Caller or FOX or similar.”

            “Here are 9 key elements of Joe Biden’s plan for a Clean Energy Revolution and Environmental Justice:”

            Have you read this?

            Disagree if you will, I believe Joe Biden with respect to his plans for energy.

            https://joebiden.com/9-key-elements-of-joe-bidens-plan-for-a-clean-energy-revolution/#

          11. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Yet, the US is the #1 oil producer in the world and exports the product. House radicals seek legislation to ban oil exports to China.

    3. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Reds Under Bed(bugs) fantasies from the 1950s led by Sen. Joe “Tailgunner” McCarthy. No mommies becoming commies in the Commonwealth.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        Yep, we’re back to that I’m afraid but boogeyman politics is what “works” with their base.

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          Presidential aspirations will cause myopia.

    4. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      “ Smithfield Foods is a U.S. company that provides more than 40,000 American jobs and partners with thousands of American farmers. The company was founded in Smithfield, Virginia, in 1936 and was acquired in 2013 by Hong Kong-based WH Group, a publicly traded company with shareholders around the world.”

      Is he gonna shutter them? Hmmmm, Chinese bacon? So, not prosciutto?

      1. I don’t know. Does Smithfield Foods own technology that would affect the national security of the United States if acquired by the Chinese government?

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          wanna tell Apple they no longer can have China make their phones?

        2. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          Of course it does, Bacon. It’s the bacon.

        3. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Located close to Surry… nuclear pigs.
          But if you’re so worried about technology transfer and defense then you must have understood and been a proponent of the Solyndra contract.

          As for battery technologies, you should know that US soldiers carry an amazing number of, and weight in batteries, which of course is what drove the DoD on Solyndra.

          Sauce for the sow, eh?

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            Perhaps Yougkin should advocate banning TikTok in Virginia for everyone?

            That oughta get him a ton of additional votes…

        4. Randy Huffman Avatar
          Randy Huffman

          Hmmmm. I am now randomly wondering if my vaccination status on chickenpox is up to date…?

        5. That’s exactly the point. This is not Huawei potetially selling phones with spyware, but a Chinese-American partnership to make electric car-batteries using technology which is hardly a secret, and willing to invest in a US factory employing US workers. If the ‘problem’ boils down to any Chinese company that earns a financial profit through a US investment, there are thousands of such deals and millions of tax dollars and jobs at stake. Starting with Smithfield pork!

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            well yes, if it were anything beyond virtue signaling…

          2. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Youngkin uses Wilder’s old cellphone. Well, could be given the State’s approach to IT.

          3. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Even it were Hauwei, the Gubna injecting himself into DoD purview would be swimming outside his lane.

            That kind of interference should receive Congressional inquiry. “You did what?”

    5. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
      energyNOW_Fan

      Interesting …missed that news…I am basically expecting some work-arounds like this, basically Dems giving protectionist rules to US autos…giving US autos whatever they want, which is to block the Toyota’s from the market but still give US autos freedom to do what they want, and effectively mandating Americans buy the Fords/GMs. At some point though, if that is the national policy direction, we have to join the crowd.

  9. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    The Age of Wokeness has diverted public financial resources to invest in social justice. Economic prosperity has suffered seriously, especially with respect to the poor. Reducing taxes is the quickest way to remedy this downward spiral and restore the former glory of Virginia as a prosperous jurisdiction for rich and poor alike.

    Say what?? Back to the Future on conservative steroids? Not to worry. A national fix is offered by the House GOP to eliminate the income tax. PTL.

  10. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
    f/k/a_tmtfairfax

    “Fed economist says job growth in North Carolina continues to outpace Virginia, rest of U.S.” https://wobx.com/2022/11/21/fed-economist-says-job-growth-in-north-carolina-continues-to-outpace-virginia-rest-of-u-s/

    “Waddell said that while Virginia has moved just above pre-pandemic employment levels through September, North Carolina has jumped 4.5 percent ahead of where job figures stood in February 2020 and passed that mark in the middle of 2021.

    “‘This is not just a (post)-COVID phenomenon, we have seen employment in North Carolina grow faster than Virginia since 2011’ Waddell said.”

    Take away the enormous presence of the federal government in NoVA and Tidewater, where is Virginia?

    1. M. Purdy Avatar

      It looks like Virginia has maintained a steady rate of unemployment of 3.7% for a long time. NC started from a higher unemployment rate of 4.5% and currently has a 3.9% unemployment rate. So it would stand to reason that their growth rates are higher; they had more room to improve.

    2. how_it_works Avatar
      how_it_works

      “Take away the enormous presence of the federal government in NoVA and Tidewater, where is Virginia?”

      See Mississippi and Louisiana for an answer.

      1. M. Purdy Avatar

        Boeing, Nestle, CapitalOne, and Amazon are all HQed in Virginia.

        1. how_it_works Avatar
          how_it_works

          Primarily because of the Federal government.

          Absent that, they have no use for Virginia.

          1. M. Purdy Avatar

            Why would you say that? Affluent, educated work force, infrastructure, pro-business policies, good school system, amenities, etc. The federal govt. is a major factor for Amazon and Boeing in particular, but Virginia is a very attractive place to do business.

          2. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            “but Northern Virginia is a very attractive place to do business.”

            I fixed it for you.

          3. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            I find that this is a good website to find out just how well Virginia is doing economically:

            https://www.vec.virginia.gov/warn-notices

          4. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            By the way, I got a good idea about Virginia infrastructure when the new house my parents moved into in 1988 had the power go out for at least an hour every single time it rained.

            The problem wasn’t fixed until several years later, when they built another subdivision across the street.

            Dominion Power likely fixed it by accident while making the changes needed for the new subdivision.

            Oh, and that 1988 house was complete garbage.

            Looked nice at first glace, but look beyond the nice cover and it was really a horror show. I think everyone who worked on it must have flunked shop class.

        2. DJRippert Avatar

          Nestle is headquartered in Vevy, Switzerland. Amazon is headquartered in Seattle, WA.

          Boeing has 141,000 employees, 400 of whom work in the DC area.

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2022/05/06/boeing-headquarters-arlington-chicago/

          1. M. Purdy Avatar

            Nestle US is based on Rosslyn; Amazon has two HCs, one in Seattle one in Arlington. The one in ARL will have a footprint of 25,000 employees. And you left out some of the key analysis in the Wapo piece about Boeing, namely: “[Brookings Inst.] predicted Boeing would eventually add or shift other services to Arlington, eventually adding more jobs. Other companies will see Boeing’s shift as a sign that Northern Virginia is leaving behind its identity as a home only for government contractors, she said, while establishing itself as a high-tech hub.” So yeah, these are all huge wins. Sorry it doesn’t fit your narrative.

    3. DJRippert Avatar

      “Take away the enormous presence of the federal government in NoVA and Tidewater, where is Virginia?”

      Nowhere.

      But it’s the federal teat that keeps the Richmond 140 fat, dumb and happy.

  11. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
    energyNOW_Fan

    North Carolina eating our lunch, because Virginia not very interested in economic development unless it is what our Blue side wants for their vision of the future.

    1. M. Purdy Avatar

      NC has a higher poverty rate, lower median income, and lower per capita GDP. But please, don’t let those facts get in the way of making your politically charged argument.

  12. UVA began its downfall with the elimination of the Pep Band.

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      Exactly right. I remember one football game when I was going to school at UVa when the pep band introduced the governor of maryland … a guy in a prison suit with a ball and chain on his leg. Hilarious.

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