Yes, Virginia, Culture Does Matter in School Performance

by James A. Bacon

I was planning to give readers a break today from graphs and scatter charts relating to Virginia’s 2014 Standards of Learning tests. Then I read a quote in the Times-Dispatch this morning by Michel Zajur, CEO of the Virginia Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. Zajur was lamenting the high Hispanic drop-out rate from schools which, at 11.7%, exceeds the rate for blacks (8.7%), whites (4%) and Asian (3%).

“Zajur and others attribute the high dropout rate to the cultural pressures felt by Hispanic students, the article states. “While other cultures focus on education, Hispanic youths are more often pushed to enter the workforce as early as possible to help support their families.”

Hmmm… Here is a clear example of how culture affects educational achievement, a fact that some readers are determined to deny. Hispanic civic leaders, not right-wing conservatives, believe that their culture pressures young people to drop out of school early, and they’re trying to do something to change it. The article profiles the Passport to Education program in three Richmond-area schools that matches students with mentors and provides a bilingual Website to help families navigate the school system.

So, I began wondering, how are Hispanic students performing in their SOL tests? And could Hispanic culture influence the outcome? While acknowledging the hazards of generalizing about “Hispanic culture” when Virginia Hispanics originate from divers countries across Latin America, I think the answer is a resounding yes — but not in a way that people will expect.

Percentage of students passing 2014 SOLs, contrasting Hispanic students proficient in English, Hispanics not proficient in English, and whites.
Percentage of students passing 2014 SOLs, contrasting Hispanic students proficient in English, Hispanics not proficient in English, and whites.

Overall, Hispanics score significantly lower pass rates than whites. But that generality is deceptive. Utilizing the Virginia Department of Education SOL Assessment Build-a-Table tool, I found a huge gulf between Hispanic students who are proficient in English and those who are not. But, as seen in the chart above, when you compare English-proficient students, nine-tenths of the gap between Hispanics and whites disappears .

That would seem to confirm the idea that culture doesn’t matter. But let’s dig a little deeper. We also know that educational achievement is correlated with socio-economic status. What would happen, I wondered, if we compared apples with apples — disadvantaged but English-proficient Hispanics with disadvantaged white and black students? The results, I suspect, will startle many readers.

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Disadvantaged Hispanic kids whose families have lived in the U.S. long enough to acquire English proficiency pass SOLs at a higher rate than disadvantaged whites by non-trivial margins, and blow the socks off the pass rates of black students.  To what factor do we attribute this superior performance? Do Hispanic kids attend schools with superior financial resources? Do they get the more experienced teachers? Does institutional racism favor poor Hispanic kids over poor white and black kids? That’s going to be a hard case to make.

Conversely, could there be a cultural difference? Is it possible that, as first- and second-generation immigrants, Hispanic students have a stronger work ethic than their disadvantaged peers in white and black communities? It is possible that they feel less entitled and more impelled to work hard?

Whatever the answer, it is very encouraging. The SOL data gives us every reason to believe that Hispanic kids in Virginia are assimilating very well once they master the English language.


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20 responses to “Yes, Virginia, Culture Does Matter in School Performance”

  1. Cville Resident Avatar
    Cville Resident

    I’m not an education expert, so I won’t hazard a guess as to which theory is correct.

    However, I do wonder the following about the Hispanic pass rate. I will assume that a lot of first generation Hispanics are also “disadvantaged.” I do know that ESOL classrooms are much smaller and much more intensive than general classrooms.

    Does the smaller environment and very intensive training in English help boost these scores?

    I have no idea, but just a thought…..

  2. Let me state the front that culture does matter but when you compare achievement scores between schools in the same district – can culture explain the reason for differences? More to the point – would you claim that – such disparities aggregated at the district level PROVE that culture is the predominate influence?

    re: ” We also know that educational achievement is correlated with socio-economic status. ”

    we ALSO know that it IS correlated resources provided at the school level.

    but why is it a surprise that parents of black kids today went to really crappy segregated schools and had no DEVELOPED culture of education that might compare to whites with multi-generations of good education and college?

    If a black man’s parents barely passed high school in a under-resourced school and he too goes to an under-resourced school – why would you expect his culture to value education the same way that generations of whites attending reasonably good schools do?

    if you really want to “prove” the Hispanic and Asian angle – look at their scores at different schools with a district = as well as look at their percent of school population. Do THEIR scores also vary by school?

    Culture makes a difference – what drives culture? If you gonna say genes instead of a race’s treatment by society – we’d argue a bit.

    There ARE schools in Henrico who have a much higher enrollment of asians than blacks. what exactly explains that?

    Finally – we talk about gerrymandered election districts – how about school districts?

    what would happen if we had a computer draw up attendance zones that paid no attention what-so-ever to neighborhood demographics?

    what would happen besides virtual riots by those who chose their schools by the neighborhood demographics?

  3. Here’s what we DO KNOW. We have schools right now – that succeed at overcoming “culture”. It’s not like no school succeeds and culture cannot be overcome.

    We KNOW that Title 1, head start and Pre-K can succeed.

    but what do we do when we aggregate data from schools that do not provide these resources – at the individual school level and report the existence of racial gaps and then go one step further and say these gaps are explained by “culture”?

    then we go even one step further and say that people who ask these questions about disparities are “liberal-progressives” … “culture apologists”?

    then one more step – bad teachers are also responsible for the “culture” failures and one more – private school vouchers can “fix” the problem.

    talk about living in denial… geeze…

    at one point do the folks on the other side start to admit some realities?

  4. LifeOnTheFallLine Avatar
    LifeOnTheFallLine

    57 percent of the Hispanic population in Virginia is in Northern Virginia. 70 percent is in Northern Virginia and Hampton Roads. For whites the percents are 28 percent and 42 percent respectively and for blacks the percents are 18 percent and 49 percent. So, yes, Virginia, schools with superior financial resources matter.

    I got my numbers from the good people at the Wheldon-Cooper Center.

    1. gotta give Jim Bacon credit for sticking with the issue and allowing further commenting!

      kudos!

  5. One of the frustrations with this issue is the tendency to want to blame culture as if – if culture is the sole and predominate reason for the disparity in the scores – that either it can’t be fixed or it will take societal changes in the “culture” – for instance – the single-parent problem is brought up over and over as if marriage alone is going to solve a problem when both parents themselves are under-educated, economically crippled, unemployed, making money from illegal activities that subject them to prison, etc.

    see: “Children with married parents are better off — but marriage isn’t the reason why ” – in wapo http://goo.gl/iXYTmQ

    So once we’ve lurched to that dead end – we feel justified in basically abandoning the kids .. it’s “culture” – tough luck – you’re screwed.

    At the same time we wring our collective hands about economic development in Virginia.

    There are win-win solutions on the immediate horizon, already in play, if we really want to recognize the opportunities and it’s called Intelligent Adaptive Learning and it will revolutionize education as we know it and especially so with kids that need additional Title 1 and other resources because of their economically disadvantaged circumstances.

    basically – it does this with computers, tablets, websites:

    * Serve as a personal tutor to the student

    * Adapt the sequencing of the curriculum – to the student

    * Individualize the pace of learning – to the student

    *Regulate cognitive load for the student

    * generate a daily report sent to the teaching professional monitoring
    the kids progress and calling in additional resources for identified chronic learning issues. Tablets can go home and when walked back into school – connect via WiFi and upload report and download next lessons.

    Such products are actively being developed – and jobs are available for those who know computers and know education – i.e. dual discipline knowledge which is melding education with computer technology.

    the uses and applications are widespread – that will serve not only at-risk, economically disadvantaged kids but virtually all kids – no matter where they live – geographically or neighborhood and no matter what “school” looks like whether it’s public, private, distance, or home-schooling.

    All of this is an ongoing reality – right now – if we are willing to move away from delving into the introspective and unproductive “culture” blame game excuse and get on to solutions.

    The software would be unique to Virginia, written to SOL standards with some linkages to incorporate and accommodate the Common Core standards.

    Perhaps when Jim is so inclined he can do a blog post on Adaptive Learning Technology and it’s use (or non use) in Virginia.

    It’s jobs for people – and it’s holds promise for kids who need the most help – and can be helped far less costly than gobs of more teachers.

    1. I agree, among the questions we need to address is how to make the educational system work more effectively. Intelligent Adaptive Learning sounds like an excellent idea. Is anyone testing this pedagogy in Virginia?

      1. UVA grad: Jessie Woolley-Wilson is Chair, President and CEO of DreamBox Learning®, the company heralded as a “game changer” in the eLearning sector by nationally renowned academic and technology pundits. Before joining DreamBox Learning, Jessie was President of the K–12 Group at Blackboard where she led the company’s growth and development for the virtual and blended online learning market.

        http://www.washingtontechnology.org/next-generation-education-intelligent-adaptive-learning-technology/

  6. Comment submitted on behalf of Cynthia Brown:

    It appears to me from the comments that there are disparate definitions of ‘culture’, or at least a divergence in the definition filtered through preconceived notions about the cause of the gap in SOL testing. Researching for the World Bank’s post-millenium goals for reducing poverty in the focus area of education, my team uses as the baseline the comprehensively researched criteria of six findings, one of which is ‘cultural identity’.

    Cultural identity manifests itself in a multitude of ways and differently according to the context of generational poverty or sudden poverty, including views of schooling. Cultural identity is built through and maintained through each community’s shared history, value of assets, community engagement, and material things.

    Michel Zajur obviously understands the culture of his own community – better than anyone outside of the community. His comment about the reason for the dropout rate is noteworthy – and honest, as uncomfortable as it may be for those who want to blame only lack of resources or some other one-off reason for the gap. The dropout rate is driven by the parents pushing their children to enter the workforce, which is in turn driven by the culture of their community and the need to maintain social solidarity within the community.

    If we took a clear, hard look at how we all live our lives, we’ll see that we are all driven by our own cultural identity and social norms. Wanting to ‘fit in’ our own cultural community, wanting the best for our families defined by our own standards and what our own culture seems to dictate. Why do we live in the type of house we do, drive the type of car we do, eat in certain restaurants, belong to certain clubs or read the books, etc?

    If there is to be an honest approach to solving the achievement gaps, politicized opinions or opinions formed from a 30,000-foot filter need to be set aside. If we could recognize there are multiple reasons for the achievement gap and accept those reasons as valid, much could be accomplished.

  7. Hill City Jim Avatar
    Hill City Jim

    “The dropout rate is driven by the parents pushing their children to enter the workforce” Really? Not in my community. The students that dropout are generally unemployable.

  8. Cynthia Brown Avatar
    Cynthia Brown

    Someone within a community is going to have a much better perspective than someone with a simplistic observation of “not in my community” perspective. We’ll never solve any problem until everyone comes to the table with agreement of what’s true, and not what they wish to be true. When people are determined to maintain their perspective through their own filter, they want there to be solutions that challenge their entrenched beliefs.

  9. Cynthia Brown Avatar
    Cynthia Brown

    Clarification: When people are determined to maintain their perspective through their own filter, they want there to be solutions that DON’T challenge their entrenched beliefs.

    1. This is becoming an excellent conversation in part because there are multiple voices, direct but polite,

      and I found these thoughts worthwhile at least for me:

      re: ” We’ll never solve any problem until everyone comes to the table with agreement of what’s true, and not what they wish to be true.

      When people are determined to maintain their perspective through their own filter, they want there to be solutions that DON’T challenge their entrenched beliefs.

      and yes this one also: “Students drop out today not because of parents pressure to get a job.”

      I have to agree – I do not see this “pressure to get a job” .. instead I hear more often than I’d like to things like – ” I’m entitled to govt-provided things even if I choose to not work hard enough to get decent grades, graduate, and get a job”.

      I will caveat the above by saying that if a kid does not get a foundationial core academic competence in K-5 – that they are, if not doomed, certainly on a huge uphill climb…. at best, and at worst a spiraling down that can end with dropping out.

      Kids can turn out bad – and beyond the help of other humans – even those dedicated to helping them – that’s a sad reality. K-3, they have a chance if the school is providing the necessary resources – after that – it gets even more uphill for those in disadvantaged circumstances.

      we need to stop arguing about why – and start to do the things – we must do – unless we want to just be satisfied with perpetuating the cycle.

  10. Hill City Jim Avatar
    Hill City Jim

    Perspective vs. facts. I’ll show you mine…you show me yours. Decades ago little Johnny had to go to work because dad got killed in the coal mine. Students drop out today not because of parents pressure to get a job.
    http://www.eduguide.org/article/why-kids-drop-out-of-school

  11. Eduguide looks like an interesting resource.

  12. Cynthia Brown Avatar
    Cynthia Brown

    HillCityJim: I’m not sure what you’re objective is. You presented an argument based on a perspective. Then the abstract in the article you link states some of the reasons and the consequences. To presume they are the only reasons isn’t reasonable, nor helpful to finding a solution.

    No one argues the consequences of dropping out of school. The discussion was originally is about the cultural influence of dropping out of school. That remains.

    Anyway, I’m sure you know as well as anyone that ‘facts’ can be parsed to fit a preconceived conclusion. It’s done all of the time. In addition, any research to find cause and effect includes quantitative and qualitative data – especially for social ills. Plus, there is no value in discourse about who’s right and who’s wrong. The problem remains: the solution needs to have many factors acknowledged, not one or a few.

    Larry: The entitlement issue is a very real part of the equation. And the fact that there are kids that will fall through the cracks, even when every resource and effort is provided.

    The value of recognizing all reasons, including cultural is that it should invite the community directly impacted into the conversation – from identifying the causes to providing the solutions. It’s also important to recognize that a culture can be location-specific. What happens in a community and the infrastructure surrounding/supporting it impacts outcomes. If in NOVA, there is an infrastructure that encourages certain behaviors and cultural patterns is different from SWVA, or Central Virginia, there are going to definitely be different outcomes. What works in one area won’t necessarily work in another. Therefore it suggests that communities and schools need some autonomy in educating the children to reach the same goal: preparedness for Kindergarten, proficiencies in subject matter so all options are available to graduates. Cookie-cutter solutions have failed miserably, and so have asking people who have no true vested interested in the children as human beings very helpful.

    It would be far more beneficial to bringing all ideas to each locale and have all stakeholders participate, especially the community that is the focus. They have a lot of good input but their voices aren’t necessarily heard at the solution stage of the conversation.

    1. re: ” It would be far more beneficial to bringing all ideas to each locale and have all stakeholders participate, especially the community that is the focus.”

      it would but the reality is that the school districts are loathe to do that and in fact will not even disclose the disparities in resources provided – that they must report to the Feds – they don’t have on their own websites and if DOE in Richmond knows – they don’t say so either.

      Most folks – don’t even know the school their kid goes to – may be under-resourced… and other folks become convinced that it’s not a resource issue – that’s it’s a “culture” issue – and therefore not something that can be readily fixed.

      This whole big discussion here started with Jim showing – statewide racial gaps by looking at the aggregate district data – rather than looking the the neighborhood school disparities within many multi-school districts and then from that – claiming that it showed a systemic “culture” influence.

      I asked how that could be when there were disparities in passing rates between schools in the same district.. and then we moved the discussion to this point.

      I dispute the idea that there is a systemic culture issue – unless we can explain why blacks pass at 80% rates at some schools and 40% rates at other schools – in the same district. In fact whites show different pass rates also in the same school districts.

      however, I’m not looking for heavy financial solutions – unique to each school either. we need to go with the recipe that is Title 1 – because we know it works when done properly and in conjunction with Head Start/Pre-K.

      every kid that drops out, every kid that even graduates but functionally illiterate is an entitlement burden – and also continues the cycle.

      how we can attribute this failure to culture and imply we have no ready way to address it is bogus to the bone – in my view of course.

  13. Hill City Jim Avatar
    Hill City Jim

    CB, How correct you are! ” ‘facts’ can be parsed to fit a preconceived conclusion.” which is exactly what you have done. What you have stated as fact “The dropout rate is driven by the parents pushing their children to enter the workforce” is your perspective or “preconceived conclusion”. I will even call it your personal bias.
    As a numbers guy, I have asked you to show me the numbers, or even valid research, that substantiate and verify your comment.
    With so many government programs that help needy families, from housing to food to medical care to tax credits even if you paid in no taxes plus what non-government agencies provide such a churches, there is no need for a student to dropout for the reason you have claimed as fact.
    Show me the facts!

  14. Cynthia Brown Avatar
    Cynthia Brown

    HCJ: I’m not sure you read my entire commentary. I’m not sure how you draw your conclusion that I have a preconceived conclusion. What I stated was: “the baseline the comprehensively researched criteria of six findings, one of which is ‘cultural identity’. Cultural identity manifests itself in a multitude of ways and differently according to the context of generational poverty or sudden poverty, including views of schooling. Cultural identity is built through and maintained through each community’s shared history, value of assets, community engagement, and material things. Michel Zajur obviously understands the culture of his own community – better than anyone outside of the community. His comment about the reason for the dropout rate is noteworthy.” I didn’t make the statement about parents pushing children into the workforce, Zajur did. I just said that it was noteworthy. I don’t think it should be ignored.

    As for facts and numbers: I’m not sure going back and forth with measurements, graphs, etc. is really valuable. However, I can’t link it here, but go to “UNESCO Institute for Statistics in EdStats” and get mired in more numbers than you can imagine! For a ‘numbers guy’, I suspect you’ll have a grand time.

    In the meantime, I will share with you that after a ten-year comprehensive study was done assessing the issues within – and establishing – the framework of Poverty, a methodology using data sets in field work, systematic content analysis, incorporating limitations that exist in any study, addressing the exception to any generalization, the following main findings are identified as such:

    1. what is necessary for material well-being
    2. social capital (cultural identity) and psychological aspects of poverty
    3. absence of basic infrastructure
    4. illness
    5. literacy versus schooling
    6. assets versus income

    These are all interlocking. They should be taken into consideration in total to solve any one of the issues.

    So back to the issue at hand, it would be great to see movement towards longterm solutions addressed in each locale and have an honest conversation with all stakeholders.

  15. Hill City Jim Avatar
    Hill City Jim

    CB, I must be getting old “I didn’t make the statement about parents pushing children into the workforce, Zajur did.” because it sure looked like…at least to me reading your original post, that you in fact did make the statement ” “The dropout rate is driven by the parents pushing their children to enter the workforce.” I did not see a quote attributed to him. My commentary, shorten version, is that is BS!
    Any guidance councilor that checks that box off on the exit form as the reason a child is leaving school should be fired. Right after calling Social Services to investigate why that child feels the necessity, because of parental pressure, to enter the labor force. Given the choice of it’s the schools fault, it’s my fault, or it’s my parents fault, dropouts will tell you anything.
    I have enjoyed reading your commentary!

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