Workforce Development: Wrestling with the Alligator

by James A. Bacon

Governor Glenn Youngkin wants to consolidate the plethora of Virginia’s workforce development programs spread across 13 agencies and six secretariats, according to Virginia Public Media. Not only do these programs consume $485 million in federal and state funding but there are a bewildering 1,500 of them.

I find that number so astonishing as to be unbelievable. The Richmond Times-Dispatch counts programs over 12 state agencies. Whatever the actual number — and the inability to pin it down precisely is indicative of how dysfunctional the system is — workforce development in Virginia is highly fractured.

The system is fragmented in part because many programs are funded as the result of state and federal legislation with narrow goals that target narrow groups or because they dole out funds to satisfy diverse geographic constituencies. Many programs run on autopilot. No one measures outcomes. No one measures effectiveness. No one re-evaluates them.

Redrawing organization charts and appointing a new boss to oversee the bureaucratic labyrinth won’t accomplish much. But Youngkin has more in mind.

“A bloated, disparate construct that has workforce programs spread all over the place, and none of what you’re measured for effectiveness, is the antithesis to what I believe government should be doing,” he said. “We can be efficient and we can be effective. I think it should run much more like a business, and that’s what we’re gonna go do.”

“I don’t begin for a minute to think that we have a magic wand here, but I have run lots of large organizations. And in this case, I know that when you have disparate operations that all are underscaled or are working independently, they can work better together,” Youngkin said. “We can do this a lot better.”

VPM notes that the proposed Virginia Department of Workforce Development & Advancement would have a specific agency, Workforce Analytics, to manage data systems and portals currently under the Department of Education, the Virginia Community College System, and the Virginia Office of Education Economics.  It’s not clear from the VPM article what Workforce Analytics would do, but the name suggests that the Youngkin administration intends to apply a data-driven approach to managing the disparate programs, perhaps akin to the way the Department of Education has taken a data-driven approach to evaluating public school performance.

Reforming workforce development programs is not likely to be as contentious as K-12 policy because it focuses exclusively on preparing people for jobs. There is no movement to use workforce training as a means to transform culture and society, nor is there a politically contentious backlash. Accordingly, there is a reasonable chance that Youngkin will find state Senate Democrats to be cooperative.

“I firmly believe that this is not bipartisan but a nonpartisan topic,” Youngkin said. “We’ve seen support for these moves, both from Republicans and Democrats, and delegates and senators.”

“I would think that for anybody … concerned about the future for the commonwealth would love us to be back [as the] number 1 state for doing business, focusing on having a strong workforce. And that’s not going to happen without working with labor,” said Delegate Eileen Filler-Corn, D-Fairfax.

Still, whoever heads the new department will have his or her hands full. The community college system, which is the main provider of workforce development programs, will remain within the Department of Education. Close cooperation between state agencies will be required to avoid redundancy. Furthermore, many programs are federally funded and have federally defined missions. The state has no authority to reallocate resources from ineffective federal programs, and federal law may limit the state’s ability to hold them accountable.

Virginia governors have been wrestling with the fragmented workforce development system going back to the time of Governor Mark Warner. Nothing much has changed. Maybe this time will be different.


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19 responses to “Workforce Development: Wrestling with the Alligator”

  1. Kathleen Smith Avatar
    Kathleen Smith

    Similar to what I said about Loudoun County — too large.

    1. DJRippert Avatar

      Loudoun County has 428,000 residents. The company where I worked for 30 years, Accenture, has 721,000 employees.

      Employees require considerably more attention than county residents.

      If government can’t run a mid-to-large county then we either need new government or we need to give up and reduce the size, scope and cost of government.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        Loudoun is one of only 49 counties in the US with a AAA bond rating. That’s responsible governance , no?

  2. DJRippert Avatar

    Not surprised to see Gov Youngkin pushing a data driven approach to management. However, Northam’s Luddite-like dismissal of the Secretary of Technology from the governor’s cabinet will hurt Youngkin in this endeavor.

    The only way to have a data driven approach across agencies is to have a cohesive information technology plan for the state as a whole. Leaving all IT decision to the heads of agencies does not accomplish this.

    Youngkin needs to seriously consider how he will develop and implement a state-wide IT plan.

    As I understand it, Virginia has about 110,000 state employees. No company of that size would simply leave IT strategy to the various departments in that company.

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      Virginia does not leave IT strategy to the various departments. VITA runs the enterprise functions–telecommunications, email, the servers that all agencies use, the cloud, and coordinates agency-specific enterprise programs such as the budget, accounting, and personnel systems. Each agency is responsible for its own in-house applications, such as the Corrections Offender Information System (CORIS) at DOC.

      You have been complaining for some time about the abolition of the Secretary of Technology position. Believe me, that position was a redundancy and a figurehead. All the IT decisions were made at VITA, which is now under the Secretary of Admiistration, which has a deputy secretary responsible for technology.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        Thanks for the update. I had thought that there was some upheaval with VITA at some point… even the idea of tossing them.

        all better now?

        The idea of separating general/generic hardware and software from specialized in-house is interesting if that stuff sits on the VITA hardware/software and communicates via the State level intranet.

      2. Corrections Offender Information System (CORIS)

        That sounds like “SCMODS”, from the Blues Brothers Movie: “State, County, Municipal Offender Data System” – in which Elwood had several entries.

      3. LarrytheG Avatar

        Thanks for the update. I had thought that there was some upheaval with VITA at some point… even the idea of tossing them.

        all better now?

        The idea of separating general/generic hardware and software from specialized in-house is interesting if that stuff sits on the VITA hardware/software and communicates via the State level intranet.

      4. Corrections Offender Information System (CORIS)

        That sounds like “SCMODS”, from the Blues Brothers Movie: “State, County, Municipal Offender Data System” – in which Elwood had several entries.

  3. Would someone be kind enough to tell me what “workforce development” actually entails?

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      Let me know when you get a cogent answer.

      1. Oh dear.! I was hoping you knew.

        1. Stephen Haner Avatar
          Stephen Haner

          Job training. With six staff positions per student when the state does it. 🙂

  4. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    Because Youngkin has made a big deal about his move to consolidate workforce development activities, I was fully expecting to see some budget proposals related to this issue. But there is nothing, except proposals to pump more money into some of the agencies that are part of the “bloated, disparate construct that has workforce programs spread all over the place” that he is complaining about.

    There is no funding or language proposed for a Virginia Department of Workforce Development & Advancement. I assumed that there would be legislation introduced. In cases such as these, the usual practice is to include budget amendments providing appropriation for the new agency. It is rather shortsighted not to have done so. As it stands now, if the legislation is adopted, the General Assembly will have to provide the budget amendments to provide the new agency the appropriation it will need to begin work on July 1 or whenever in the next fiscal year the administration intends for the legislation to be effective. Because a lot of the appropriation for the new agency will be current appropriations residing in other agencies, development of all the needed amendments during the session could get messy. An alternative approach would be for the legislature to include language in the budget authorizing the administration to move the money around between agencies administratively.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      Yes. Perhaps along the lines of what was done when VITA took over IT?

  5. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    Bring popcorn. Not the first attempt to do this, and it usually doesn’t get far. But if anybody can pull this off, Secretary of Labor Bryan Slater may be the one. It should be totally bi-partisan, but the entrenched interests are deep.

  6. LarrytheG Avatar

    Strangely enough, I agree with Bacon, Haner and DJR!

    This happens to almost any entity, govt or private sector – over time. It even happens to Non-Profits and volunteer orgs.

    It pains me to see multiple groups for the same charitable purpose as much as it pains me to see similar stuff going on in the govt

    I agree with DJR about the IT. The military has struggled with the same problem also.

    At home, I watch folks buy single cans of food to donate instead of giving that same dollar to the Food Bank which can buy case lots at wholesale .

    So I applaud Youngkin in his efforts to better organize and make more efficient knowing it’ll be more of a chip away at it rather than total re-vamp.

    And irony on all the workforce develop and this:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/be84e3b3cd04a12ebc9fac60e9f32c9fb4ba58b30bed27f13632e10ec5380a80.jpg

    https://cardinalnews.org/2022/12/21/some-of-the-states-poorest-localities-help-pay-for-community-college-tuition/

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      See my reply to Rippert about the Secretary of Techology position.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        so the small print below the headline says:

        ” Virginia, one of the most affluent states in the country, is effectively relying on its most economically distressed communities to train more workers. Many localities in Southwest Virginia have created programs for students to attend community college for free, without the help of state aid.”

        which I thought ironic given the numerous state-level agencies devoted to that task.

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