by James A. Bacon

Following the decision to take down the tents in the UVA Solidarity Encampment for Gaza “liberated zone” at the University of Virginia on Saturday, UVA President Jim Ryan is facing strong blowback from leftist elements in the UVA and Charlottesville communities.

Pro-Palestinian protesters had rebuked the administration’s orders to take down the tents and refrain from the use of loudspeakers in violation of University rules. After repeated warnings, the decision was made to send in Virginia State Troopers in riot gear Saturday to break up a tent encampment of anarchists and militants near the University Chapel, resulting in the arrest of 25.

The Jefferson Council contends that the takedown was fully justified. The issue was not the protesters’ right to free speech — they had been shouting and chanting their pro-Palestinian views for almost a week — but their refusal to abide by the rules regarding time, place and manner of protests that everyone else is expected to obey.

“The Jefferson Council applauds the actions of Chief Timothy Longo and the University Police as well as the Virginia State Police in ending the encampment on the Grounds,” said Jefferson Council President Tom Neale. “We support free speech and the pro-Palestinian protestors’ right to express their opinions. However, they cannot violate University regulations, which they clearly did when Chief Longo told them to take down the tent encampments and they refused. It is good to know that the University of Virginia set boundaries and enforced them, unlike other universities and states.”

But many others disagreed.

“With shock and dismay, we condemn the repression of a peaceful protest of our students by armed state police in riot gear,” stated an open letter signed by about 45 professors in the UVA History Department.

Many, including the history professors, repeated the protesters’ over-wrought rhetoric comparing the arrests — in which no serious injuries were reported — to the deadly shootings at Kent State.

As historians, we are acutely aware that this police action fell on the anniversary of the murder of four student protesters at Kent State University on May 4, 1970. History has not judged those who ordered the violent repression of that protest kindly. History will also judge the University of Virginia’s actions on May 4, 2024, and we have no doubt that history will also condemn the disproportionate, draconian and excessive use of force against nonviolent protesters exercising their free speech rights on an academic campus founded by the author of the Declaration of Independence.

Protesters and sympathizers also compared the police action in taking down the tents to police inaction in dealing with the unsanctioned tiki-torch march of White Supremacists on UVA grounds.

Several UVA student groups have issued denunciations on their social media accounts.

Additionally, religion professor Oludamini Ogunnaike has resigned from the Religion, Diversity & Belonging Task Force set up last year to ease tensions between Muslims and Jews on campus.

Said Ogunnaike: “How could I recommend ways to make Muslim and Jewish students, faculty, and staff feel more welcome on grounds to an administration that sent riot police to point guns at, threaten, pepper spray, manhandle, arrest, and ban from ground a small handful of Muslim, Jewish, and other students, faculty and staff — many of whom were not even part of the protest encampment? Nothing says ‘you are not welcome here’ quite like violent arrest at gunpoint, an evening in the cells of the Albemarle Regional County Jail, and charges of trespassing on your own campus.”

Sounding a theme in Oggunaike’s resignation letter — “neither President Ryan nor [Provost] Dean Baucom was present to witness the horrible effects of their decision to deploy violent and massive police force” — The Daily Progress made an issue of Ryan’s apparent detachment as the confrontation unfolded.

“Ryan had been noticeably absent from the episode itself,” wrote reporter Jason Armesto. “For hours Saturday, while his students were being dragged off Grounds, while state police were turning on the gathering crowd witnessing and protesting the display of force, while members of the press were being pepper-sprayed, Ryan’s office was silent.”

Reynolds Hutchins, editor of the Charlottesville newspaper, raised the same issues as his reporter about Ryan’s invisibility. He contrasted Ryan’s lack of presence with that of former President Edgar Shannon who addressed protesters directly and listened to their demands during Vietnam War-era protests a half century ago.

Ryan offered the following defense of the police action:

Beginning Tuesday afternoon of this week, a small group, including members of our community, participated in a peaceful public demonstration near the UVA Chapel. Until last evening, they complied with requests to adhere to University policies, including a long-standing prohibition on erecting tents absent a permit. We also learned last evening, after the protesters had made a public call for others to join, that individuals unaffiliated with the University – who also presented some safety concerns – had joined them. Despite numerous requests to comply with multiple University policies, the protesters refused.

Early this morning, Chief of Police Tim Longo offered a final warning to the protesters, reminding them once again of their University policy violations and pleading for a peaceful resolution.  That request was ignored. We hoped and tried to handle this locally. But when UPD’s attempts to resolve the situation were met with physical confrontation and attempted assault, it became necessary to rely on assistance from the Virginia State Police. This afternoon, the police declared an unlawful assembly, issued no trespass orders to those who refused to disperse, and arrested those who continued to refuse dispersal.

Free speech, Ryan continued, is a “bedrock University value.”

That said, public universities like ours rely on time, place, and manner policies, which are a way of ensuring that speech is free but does not interfere with the rights of others.  These policies must be applied consistently without regard to the content of expression, whether the protest is peaceful, or whether we agree or disagree with the cause. The neutral and even-handed enforcement of these rules is the only way to ensure that all members of this community have an equal opportunity to participate in the life of the University.  We also have a duty to ensure the physical safety of our community.

Unfortunately, a small group today made a choice to willingly break the rules after being given many opportunities to comply, and they then refused to leave the site voluntarily. I sincerely wish it were otherwise, but this repeated and intentional refusal to comply with reasonable rules intended to secure the safety, operations, and rights of the entire university community left us with no other choice than to uphold the neutral application and enforcement of those rules.

May 4 was a significant day in UVA’s history, and the university community is undoubtedly in store for recriminations and counter-recriminations regarding Ryan’s role in closing the encampment. While The Jefferson Council approves without reservation the decision to take down the tents and arrest those who resisted, we believe it is too early to comment upon Ryan’s performance. We will wait for more facts to come in before passing judgment.

Meanwhile, we think it would be useful to provide context about the anarchists’ provocations and tactics, which we shall do in an upcoming post. We will also address the fatuous comparison of the police response to the “encampment for Gaza” with the police response to the 2017 White Supremacist tiki-torch march.

James A. Bacon is executive director of The Jefferson Council. This article has been republished with permission from The Jefferson Council blog.


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75 responses to “With the Tents Down, the Blowback Begins”

  1. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    So, could the White Supremacists do their Tiki-torch thing again without police response?

    1. walter smith Avatar
      walter smith

      Larry – you should be required to get a license to comment because you are always wrong.
      There were maybe 300 “white supremacists.” And something like 5,000 “protesters.”
      I think there would have been Antifa and agent provocateurs in both groups. For whatever reason the police failed to keep the groups apart. I think on purpose to create a Leftwing Reichstag fire.
      But here is a very simple truth – if the mask law was enforced, I think Heather Heyer would be alive. In fact, the anonymity is part of the mob mentality to make violence easier. That’s why Southern states passed the anti-mask laws – to break up the Klan. Which side is using masks? Asking for a friend…

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        agent provocateurs , ” Leftwing Reichstag fires” and Antifa to boot!

        gadzooks!

        1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          Black is white full-Walter.

        2. walter smith Avatar
          walter smith

          Agitprop is agitprop Larry. The problem for the Marxists is Normies are waking up to it. The lawfare against Trump is a great eye opener for Normies.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            The Congressional GOP and impeachments warfare?

          2. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Congressional GOP makes no sense. Impeachments warfare? By the GOP? Against Mayorkas is obviously deserved and went nowhere (violation of norms by Dems in the Senate, again). Or the Trump impeachments which were totally bogus. J6 was Agitprop. And what has been done to truly ‘mostly peaceful protesting” vs the Summer of Love BuyLargeMansions fraud group is despicable. Also the J6 disorder seemed to start after being gassed and shot at with rubber bullets. Highly suspicious. J^ committee – unlawfully constituted, destroyed evidence, edited tape. You good with that?

      2. Lefty665 Avatar
        Lefty665

        If the cops had been doing their job and prevented a mob including Antifa from blocking the intersection about 2 blocks from police HQ Heather Heyer would be alive. Or, if the city had blocked the side streets that cross the downtown mall with vehicles, as was suggested and volunteered, instead of saw horses and school crossing guards who left their posts because they feared the mob Heather Heyer would be alive.

        1. Chip Gibson Avatar
          Chip Gibson

          Had antifa been deported, the tragedy would not have occurred.

          1. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            and if pigs had wings…

          2. Chip Gibson Avatar
            Chip Gibson

            Flying bacon!

          3. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            That makes more sense than your comment on deporting citizens.

          4. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            You can’t deport a political movement. It’s like saying “had democracy been deported…” Silly argument…

          5. Chip Gibson Avatar
            Chip Gibson

            Antifa is a terrorist organization. Deport well and often. What democracy are you talking about? Greek?

          6. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Antifa is a political movement not an organization. 🙄

          7. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            sorta like saying you’re going to wipe out Hamas…..

        2. Marty Chapman Avatar
          Marty Chapman

          There were plenty of cops in Cville that day. Who prevented them from keeping the peace? Who was the Gov back then?

      3. Chip Gibson Avatar
        Chip Gibson

        Splendid, Sir.

      4. WayneS Avatar

        I’m not sure the mask law would have helped much in Charlottesville in 2017.

        I’ve been looking back at news coverage of the klan rally, the tiki-torch march, and the unite the right rally, and not very many people were wearing face coverings of any kind, on either side. Even the klan guys did not wear masks. They wore their stupid pointy hats, of course, but no face coverings.

        1. walter smith Avatar
          walter smith

          This was before Antifa became known. But there were people masked there, and with clothes rods? Why, unless they were looking to rumble?
          The main failure was not separating the crowds. But this wouldn’t have happened if they had simply been ignored. The 300 id!ots would have completed their march. The end. And I don’t think the 300 were even white supremacists. I would guess half were there to protest taking down the statue of Lee, and they were right. It won’t end. How much has Richmond improved since breaking the deal (the Ashe statue that was supposed to end this – never trust a deal with Marxists)? or Cville?

    2. WayneS Avatar

      So, could the White Supremacists do their Tiki-torch thing again without police response?

      Probably, as long as they did the same thing they did last time and did not try to stay on campus in contravention of university policy.

  2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    Well, they sacked a four-star general at VMI. Loss of confidence. Is it time to sack Ryan?

    1. Chip Gibson Avatar
      Chip Gibson

      General Peay was (is) a distinguished and honorable gentleman who stood upon principle despite the petty and crass demands of the leftist wokesters. Ryan….a toad. So, yes Sir, it is time to sack Ryan.

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        I know these four guys. Dexter Manley, Charles Mann, Darryl Grant, and Dave Butz. 250 plus sacks between them. Perfect for the job.

        1. Lefty665 Avatar
          Lefty665

          Don’t forget Kerrigan:) He’s one of the very few staff holdovers too!

          1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            It took my a half of a second. Get it!

          2. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            It was a good list, and covered a lot of years!

  3. UVAPast Avatar
    UVAPast

    History professors help me cancel gifts to UVA.

  4. Bob X from Texas Avatar
    Bob X from Texas

    Expecting people that support the rape of teen age girls, the beheading of infants, and the burning of adults for the crime of being Jewish to abide by the rules regarding time, place and manner of protests that everyone else is expected to obey is RACIST!!!!!!

  5. WayneS Avatar

    Protesters and sympathizers also compared the police action in taking down the tents to police inaction in dealing with the unsanctioned tiki-torch march of White Supremacists on UVA grounds.

    If the unsanctioned tiki-torch marchers had tried to set up an encampment on the grounds, I am sure there would have been police action to remove them.

      1. WayneS Avatar

        Sure, some similarities. But if the pro-Palestinian protesters had marched across the grounds and then gone away like the tiki-torch marchers did, the police would have had no cause to interfere with them. Instead, they gave the police cause to interfere with them, and the police were happy to oblige.

        1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          Yes, a tent was just a step too far… 🙄

          1. WayneS Avatar

            Yes, a tent was just a step too far…

            Perhaps.

            Of course, I did not say that, nor did I call the police on them. I pointed out the difference between the two protests/demonstrations.

          2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            I never said you did… 🤷‍♂️

          3. WayneS Avatar

            Then why the emoji?

          4. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            It was directed at the administration’s police actions and not you.

          5. WayneS Avatar

            Thank you. I apologize for misinterpreting your intent.

          6. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Da nada…

  6. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    How protests work…
    “ The Biden administration paused a shipment of US-made ammunition to Israel, according to a source familiar with the matter, who did not disclose why the decision was made. The hold is not connected to a potential Israeli operation in Rafah and doesn’t affect other shipments moving forward, the source said.

    Asked about the paused shipment, a National Security Council spokesperson cited ongoing security assistance to Israel.”

    1. Lefty665 Avatar
      Lefty665

      The order for ammunition included tents and they needed time to gather them up from around the country?

      Wonder what the real reason for the hold up is? I would not expect Biden to admit they had finally told Israel no more weapons if you continue to insist on attacking civilians in Rafah. OTOH, there is no expectation that Biden et al would have the balls to actually say no either.

      Hopefully we will learn more, and that the Administration is finally coming to its senses and saying no more weapons until you stop using them to commit war crimes. I’m not holding my breath.

      Here’s from the State Dept FSO who resigned last week:

      “Israel cannot bomb or starve its way to security, and the United States must stop enabling this failed and inhumane strategy. As you read this, over 2 million men, women and children in Gaza are still getting bombarded, suffering from starvation, dehydration and constant displacement, with over 100,000 killed or injured — and our tax money continues to pay for it.

      After more than 200 days following Hamas’s terrible Oct. 7 terrorist attacks, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s incessant bombing campaign has failed to bring the hostages home or make Israelis safer, prompting protests from within Israel against his hawkish right-wing government.

      Enough is enough.” https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/4646237-biden-gaza-militaristic-policy-failure/

      1. CJBova Avatar

        When has one side in a war been expected to care for the needs of the enemy’s civilians before the war ends because the enemy won’t do it? FSO Foreign Service Officer’s party affiliation and ethnicity? Lefty, when you have the number of combatants and supporters, and Hamas has done anything to feed its people and released all hostages, then talk about casualties and what Israel should do. Until then, it’s all propaganda.

        1. Lefty665 Avatar
          Lefty665

          Indeed it is.

          FSO’s ethnicity – American. In my experience with them they have eschewed party affiliation. She is indicative of large scale resistance to current US policy within the professional ranks of career public servants.

          It is about what Israel should not do, keep committing war crimes and crimes against humanity on our dime, well money we’re borrowing that is.

          Also from the FSO’s post. It goes to your initial question. :

          “The administration needs to wake up, realize that this militaristic strategy is an abhorrent failure and change course immediately, for the sake of Israelis and Palestinians alike. Maintaining a devastating onslaught on a besieged civilian population is not only a violation of international law, but also counterproductive. Instead of eroding Hamas, it is emboldening extremism on all sides and undermining America globally. https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/4646237-biden-gaza-militaristic-policy-failure/

          Thank you for the opportunity to have a discussion between folks holding very different viewpoints. It is often hard these days to be able to disagree without being disagreeable.

          1. CJBova Avatar

            American is one’s citizenship. Ethnicity is family related. I was really curious about connections to “the squad”.

          2. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Dunno the answer to that. Again, my experience over the years is that FSOs have tended to be politically unaffiliated. Obviously that is not ironclad.

            Her post was very clear that our current policy serves no one well. Not Israelis, not Palestinians, and not America. On the face of it that does not seem very squad like.

        2. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Like since Geneva Conventions…

          1. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Ooh…you are so smart…
            Cite a specific part.
            Meanwhile, glad you now acknowledge international codes.
            What was your position on violating the Nuremberg Code a few billion times. Article 1. No participation in a medical experiment without informed willing consent. You know…for the virus co-produced under Dr. St. Fau(x)ci with the experimental non-vaccine for which they changed the definition of vaccine to force an experimental medical product that doesn’t work on the populace by “experts” who suppressed rational and effective treatments and policies?
            And then suppressed truthful criticism of those actions in the name of (non)SCIENCE!!!

          2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Walter logic: because our government created a vaccine in the middle of a pandemic which killed millions, approved it on a rush basis, and he thinks some were somehow forced to receive it, Israel has full authority to slaughter tens of thousands of innocent civilians and those who criticize them for it are “terrorists”… sounds about par for the course…

          3. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            justifying the killing of civilians because combatants are among them is how Vietnam and Afghanistan “worked”, no?

          4. CJBova Avatar

            No. Because Hamas uses schools mosques hospitals to launch attacks against Israeli forces.

          5. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            “(D)Murder.—
            The act of a person who intentionally kills, or conspires or attempts to kill, or kills whether intentionally or unintentionally in the course of committing any other offense under this subsection, one or more persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including those placed out of combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause.”
            https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2441

          6. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            and so did the Viet Cong and Taliban… right?

          7. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            “Nancy” cited Geneva Code. Still waiting for the cite that Israel is violating the Geneva Code. I cited that I was glad Nancy recognizes international rules since they were violated during Covidiocy. You, in fact, Troll bragged that you were going to get every “vaccine” of the jabjabjab as it continued to roll out. Have you done so? Or were you just doing your usual Dem Narrative Agitprop?
            Tens of thousands of “innocent” civilians have not been killed. First, doubt the Hamas numbers of 34,000. It is easy to make up numbers. Second, 71% of “innocent” civilians approve of Hamas 10/7 genocide. Third, the Hamas barbarians use the civilians as fodder to create propaganda for either the evil (like I suspect you are) or the “useful id!ots. Give me a cite. Without reading the Geneva Code, I bet Israel is within the doctrine of just war. Hamas started it. And has continued it for decades. Too bad.

          8. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            You cited Geneva Code. Not Nuremberg. Give the cite to the portion of the Geneva Code you believe Israel is violating.

          9. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            This prohibition finds expression in Additional Protocol I (API) to the 1949 Geneva Conventions, which states that besieging forces may not starve civilians “as a method of warfare.” Similarly, it is prohibited to “attack, destroy, remove or render useless” any items necessary for civilians’ survival (e.g., food, land used to cultivate food, water, irrigation works, etc.), regardless of whether the objective is to starve the civilian population, to cause them to move, or some other motive.

          10. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            And where is Israel violating it?
            Plenty of aid is supplied, but doesn’t get to the residents. The only people trying to hurt the “civilians” are Hamas. Hamas, an evil organization that you apparently support because…you are a reflexively non-thinking Dem lover? – won’t let the civilians leave. Hamas uses Israel’s and the West’s decency in general against it because of all the useful I words and fellow travelers. Sorry – Hamas needs to be eradicated. Or you approve of 10/7? Microwaving babies? Multiple rapes? Cutting off genitalia? How about the hostages? One side is barbaric. One side is civilized. This isn’t hard for anyone with a working moral compass. How about compassion for the millions of aborted babies who didn’t vote for and support Hamas?

        3. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Am I not allowed to call him Netanyahooty? How about Pootin? Is President Briben okay?

          And what, pray tell, was wrong with the post about the ICC?

    2. So true —– any state government which bans its opposition party, closes media outlets which criticizes its actions, cancels elections, and bans the opposing church, and which purposefully attacks its adversary’s public infrastructure SHOULD NOT GET OUR MILITARY SUPPORT — except Ukraine.

    1. WayneS Avatar

      I drew a different conclusion from that article. I concluded that we are not locking up enough young people…

      😉

    2. WayneS Avatar

      I drew a different conclusion from that article. I concluded that we are not locking up enough young people…

      😉

  7. William O'Keefe Avatar
    William O’Keefe

    If the reports of repeated requests are correct, the protesters and others complaints are like the person who kills his parents and then throws himself on the mercy of the court because he is an orphan.
    The students who refused to comply with university policy should be suspended.

    1. WayneS Avatar

      Now do “U.S. people” and “U.S. government”…

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        Isn’t that poll US people? How do you “poll” the US Govt?

        1. WayneS Avatar

          How do you “poll” the US Govt?

          There is no possible way you are that dense.

          What I clearly meant was show a poll in which people were asked for there opinions about the U.S. people, and the U.S. government. Exactly the same form as the poll you posted.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Why don’t you do that if that is what you want instead of asking others?

            when you say “for there”

            do you really mean “for their”?

          2. WayneS Avatar

            Why don’t you do that if that is what you want instead of asking others?

            That’s rich coming from you.

            when you say “for there”

            do you really mean “for their”?

            Yes. You caught one of my rare instances of inadvertent word misuse.

            Congratulations! You get a trophy… 🏆

  8. DJRippert Avatar
    DJRippert

    When you fail to pay your taxes, it is non-violent. You still go to jail.

    When a politician takes a bribe, it is non-violent. The politician still goes to jail (unless the politician is in Virginia).

    Yes, the police arrested non-violent people breaking the law.

    During the tiki torch protests / riots in Charlottesville, the police were there. They had riot gear. They had armored vehicles.

    They didn’t make arrests.

    Why not?

    Ask Terry Mac and the Mayor of Charlottesville at the time.

    1. WayneS Avatar

      They did not make arrests at the tiki-torch march because no one was breaking the law – not the marchers and not the counter-protesters – or at any rate, no one was deemed at the time to be breaking the law. The groups were never ordered to disperse, most likely because everybody left the area after the march was over.

      The law-breaking started the next day during the “unite the right” event.

      1. Lefty665 Avatar
        Lefty665

        UVa had no rules against things like the tiki-torch march when it took place. They subsequently added rules about assemblies on grounds. Those restrictions are currently in effect.

        MacAuliffe publicly advocated “Let them fight so I can declare it an illegal assembly”. The Mayor endorsed it and the Police Chief relayed that request to his officers. It subsequently cost the Chief his job.

        1. Marty Chapman Avatar
          Marty Chapman

          The Supt of State Police retired shortly thereafter also.

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