Joe Gutierrez

by James A. Bacon

Town of Windsor police officers won’t face state criminal charges for pepper-spraying a Black Army lieutenant during a traffic stop, but they aren’t off the hook yet. Hampton Commonwealth’s Attorney Anton Bell, named as special prosecutor in the Isle of Wight case, has asked the U.S. Attorney’s Office to open a civil rights investigation.

Joe Gutierrez (no longer on the force) and Daniel Crocker pulled over 2nd Lieutenant Caron Nazario on U.S. Route 460 at night on suspicion of driving without a license plate. Nazario had a temporary New York plate in the rear window but the officers said they didn’t see it. Nazario drove a mile before finally pulling over in a BP gas station. When ordered repeatedly to get out of the car, Nazario refused. Gutierrez pepper-sprayed Nazario and then forced him to the ground. Much of the encounter was caught on police cameras.

Bell, an African-American, conducted what he described as an “exhaustive review” of Virginia state law, according to The Smithfield Times. “The traffic stop alone was not a violation of law,” he wrote. Gutierrez’s use of force “did not violate state law as he had given multiple commands for Nazario to exit the vehicle.”

Bell did ask the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of Virginia, however, to investigate whether Gutierrez’s actions violated Nazario’s civil rights, specifically whether they deprived him of “rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution and laws of the U.S.”

According to The Smithfield Times, federal law prohibits federal, state and local officials from subjecting “any person to different punishments, pains, or penalties, than those prescribed for punishment of citizens on account of such person being an alien or by reason of his/her color or race.”

Bacon’s bottom line: Assuming The Smithfield Times‘ reporting was complete, Bell provided no evidence to suggest that either the traffic stop or pepper-spraying incident was racially motivated. Neither officer used racially-charged language. Any premise of racism would be based entirely upon the fact that Nazario was Black while the two officers were White.

Former Attorney General Mark Herring advanced the argument that Black drivers accounted for 42% of the Windsor Police Department’s traffic stops, even though Blacks account for only 22% of the county’s population. That statistical analysis was worthless, however, because it didn’t account for the number of out-of-area motorists driving on Route 460 or the possibility that Blacks and Whites might exhibit different driving behaviors. Accusing officers of civil rights offenses based upon jinky and incomplete statistics and the presumption of racism is a dangerous exercise.


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57 responses to “Windsor Traffic Cops Broke No State Laws”

  1. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    Even so, the recording will linger and should be used in training for a long time as an example how not to do things…

  2. …or the possibility that Blacks and Whites might exhibit different driving behaviors…

    Such as?

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Broken taillights?

      Now, age differences? You betcha! The insurance companies make bread and butter on age brackets.

      1. So, logically, the police should taser and/or pepper-spray a certain number of old people every month to show they are not as prejudiced as the insurance companies…

        😉

    2. VaPragamtist Avatar
      VaPragamtist

      Tillyer, R., & Engel, R. S. (2012). Racial differences in speeding patterns: Exploring the differential offending hypothesis. Journal of Criminal Justice, 40(4), 285-295.

      “Analytic models indicated that Black drivers speed more frequently and engage in more severe speeding compared to White drivers, net of controls. . .The findings suggest that citizen risk for specific police behavior is partially attributable to differential behavior prior to the encounter. These results mirror the findings of previous research in other geographic locations using different methodologies; thus, contributing to the conclusion that understanding officer decision-making and behavior requires consideration of other factors beyond a citizen’s race.”

      But:

      “the likelihood of DUI was higher among whites followed by Hispanics, Asians, and blacks in all models. Perception of easy home access to alcohol increased risk for future DUI for whites, Hispanics, and Asians, but not for black youth. Drinking frequency and prior DUI were not risk factors for Hispanics. Risk-taking attitudes, marijuana use, and religious affiliation were risk factors for whites only.”

      Delcher, C., Johnson, R., & Maldonado-Molina, M. M. (2013). Driving after drinking among young adults of different race/ethnicities in the United States: unique risk factors in early adolescence?. Journal of Adolescent Health, 52(5), 584-591.

      Bottom line: racial disparities in driving behavior. exist.

      1. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        How does such suspicion arise about driving without a license plate fit?

        1. VaPragamtist Avatar
          VaPragamtist

          I’m not aware of any studies on racial disparities among those who commit that offense. Though I’ve said it before–I’d love to see a study on driving behavior by Virginia license plate type (which, in some ways, could reflect ideology). My money is on “don’t tread on me” = worst drivers.

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            I have begun to notice more snake plates on big wheels with spinners. Perhaps it’s like putting an FOP supporter bumper sticker?

          2. Do you have some kind of problem with that phrase?

    3. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      You know perfectly well what JAB was insinuating. Plus, them damned non-Virginia drivers causing confusion for local police.

      1. Yes. That is why I asked for examples.

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          Remember Carter Glass statement about discriminatory provisions in 1902 constitution: Discriminatory!! Why that’s exactly what we intended. Reading between the lines does not require a CRT course.

    4. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      Driving with tinted windows…??

      1. It’s funny you should mention that. The factory tinting on the windows in my wife’s latest vehicle is so dark that I suspect it violates Virginia law.

        She hasn’t been hassled yet, but you never know…

  3. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
    f/k/a_tmtfairfax

    Herring is largely incompetent. A good lawyer would have factored in stops related to through traffic on 460. Indeed, there still may have been a racial disparity argument based on complete data.

  4. If Bell was not black is it safe to assume the officer would have responded similarly?

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Probably not. I told my daughter that if she was to find herself being pulled on a dark road, to acknowledge the officer, and drive to a lighted area or open store.

      1. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        I don’t think that is what set this off. Had he simply exited the vehicle on request once in that lighted area it might have been less tense. If I recall, what really stunned me was how quickly guns got drawn. Once a gun is drawn, I also might have thought it wiser to stay in the car away from the obviously hysterical officer.

        1. YellowstoneBound1948 Avatar
          YellowstoneBound1948

          Yes, there is something we cannot see about this. It was nighttime and the police officers seem unusually agitated. If there is a trial, perhaps we will find out why. With just six men on the force, I think the Windsor PD may have been overworked. The lieutenant should have exited the vehicle. It would have reduced the tension. Mistakes on both sides.

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Windsor population 2800 consists of two roads, Rte. 460 and Rte. 10. The gas station is the only light in the period of a new moon. Six cops is two more than needed.

          2. Six cops is two more than needed.

            I not so sure. If they had the same police to resident ratio as Richmond or Norfolk (+/-30 per 10K) , they’d have 8 officers.

        2. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          The officer was irritated before the car came to a stop and began from the git go shouting commands.

        3. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Yeah, it was. The gun was out of the holster before the cop was out of the car…

          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yYWgrwd96Hk&noapp=1

          I especially like the simple easy to follow commands
          1) “Driver roll your window down!”.
          2) “Put your hands out of the window.” (repeated)
          3) “Turn the vehicle off and put your hands out the window.”

          At the end of steps 1 and 2, the cop knows your race. Are you really going to pull a hand back in the car if you’re black?

      2. YellowstoneBound1948 Avatar
        YellowstoneBound1948

        Critically important advice. Some police cruisers are stolen. In such cases, the occupants are usually bent on mayhem.

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Stolen? Bought in resales, complete with spotlight, bull bumper, and the ever desirable two tone paint scheme. Google “impersonating a police officer”, “rape”. But, you’ll want to limit your results to just the past year if you’ve only a day or two to read.

          It is a dirty little secret that it outstrips mass shooting by an order of magnitude.

      3. I will do that myself – especially when I’m on a motorcycle.

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          The risk to you and the officer at stopping on a darkened road, especially two-lane or with small or no shoulder, is obvious to the casual observer. Sometimes, the adult has to make a decision.

  5. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    Do you really believe that the officers would have pulled guns on a white man in an officer’s uniform and then pepper sprayed him?

    1. Yes, such things happen to White people a lot more than you think. Just because the media choose to downplay the incidents does not mean they don’t happen.

      1. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        Yes true. People expel belches in Walmart unknown to others. Things like that must happen because it’s possible.

        1. Have you never had a police officer pull his gun on you?

          I think everyone should have that experience at least once in their life.

    2. Yes, in fact I do.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        do you think: ” Blacks and Whites might exhibit different driving behaviors.”?

        1. Some trends are there for the observer. Do a few ride alongs with Leo’s and make your own asessment.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            you think the LEOs would act the same way when there are ride-alongs? geeze… do you think it would matter the color of the ride-along? 😉

          2. Ive done a few ridealongs. You should too. I rode with a black officer in an urban area and we discussed stereotypes and how all too often there are observed behaviors that are consistent more with region/locale than race, BUT, there are some behaviors that are more often observed among certain communities that can be identified by age, ethnicity and gender.

          3. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Backseat don’t count.

          4. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Anyone who thinks police behave the same way on a ride-along is living in la la land IMO.

            It’s an uber curated experience that almost surely does not reflect actual day-to-day behaviors especially the kind involved in this incident. It’s intended to influence the ride-along.

            That’s exactly why we have mandatory cams now that show much more unvarnished truth of an incident.

            Before these cams, the police reports often did not match what those arrested claimed happened.

    3. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Of course he does. He has placed himself in the untenable position of having to believe it. Otherwise,…

      It’s the same position he places himself in daily on all subjects on BR. At some point, the casual observer ceases to wonder.

    4. YellowstoneBound1948 Avatar
      YellowstoneBound1948

      Was he in uniform?

      1. YellowstoneBound1948 Avatar
        YellowstoneBound1948

        He was in uniform. There is a long article and short video in the New York Times.

  6. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    re: “… or the possibility that Blacks and Whites might exhibit different driving behaviors.”

    whoa! I’m sure there is research on that somewhere .. Maybe that guy that did the “Bell Curve”. I can’t believe JAB thinks this way.

    1. walter smith Avatar
      walter smith

      Seriously?
      You don’t believe there are different driving habits possible?
      Men and women?
      Teenagers vs old people?
      What if blacks are an overall younger demographic? More or less wrecks/tickets?
      Are you a good driver? Why?
      (And of course, you didn’t read The Bell Curve, did you? You just know that all good Dems denounce it (cuz it’s heresy).)

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      or be polite and be white? 😉

      1. Teddy007 Avatar

        Or have a white friend in the car.

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Preferably your lawyer.

  7. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Next to real racism, like next to any impropriety, sits the “appearance of” same said. It is the purpose of professionalism and training to eliminate these.

  8. This is textbook uncooperative. The officers orders were clearly stated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeDJ7GIiu98

    1. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      So it was said, so let it be written. Who said dat?

      1. The officers.

      2. YellowstoneBound1948 Avatar
        YellowstoneBound1948

        Yul Brynner

    2. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      So it was said, so let it be written. Who said dat?

  9. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    You can watch dozens of these videos on line. Some cops are better than others, but how hard is it to teach cops to shout one single command over and over in a logical order until compliance? Not to shout contradictory commands. Not to have multiple cops shouting multiple and contradictory commands.

    Perhaps a plastic coated check list?

    But then, we have had nearly 70 years of appeals and rulings because of cops’ inability to read from a card until SCOTUS basically just gave up trying to teach (pigs to sing?) cops to read people their rights and damn near trashed the requirement completely.

    Perhaps a return to basics? Maybe the first two course taught at ploice academies should be Mother-May-I 101 and Simon-Says 102?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yYWgrwd96Hk&noapp=1

    1. Not to shout contradictory commands.

      That applies to criminals, too:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCYtC1p6xbo

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        One of my favs. I just wish I could yodel.

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