Wilder’s Take on the McAuliffe-Youngkin Race

L. Douglas Wilder. Photo credit: Wikipedia

by Chris Saxman

Yesterday I spoke with former Governor Doug Wilder regarding the recently released poll by Virginia Commonwealth University’s Wilder School on the 2021 governor race.

That conversation is one that I will remember for a very long time in that here’s a former governor who, at the age of 90, is still actively engaged in Virginia politics because he honestly just gives a damn about the future of the Commonwealth.

Good on him.

When he picked up the phone for our interview, I naturally asked him:
Governor, how are you today?

Without missing a beat came the upbeat and wise reply:

I woke up! It’s a good day!

My favorite quote from the interview was this:

Truth is not partisan.

Doug Wilder dished out not only truth, but also wisdom — and frustration.

The entire VCU Wilder School poll can be accessed by clicking here.

Top line data — Terry McAuliffe 40, Glenn Youngkin 37, and Undecided 23.
The key takeaways for Wilder were “the closeness” of the race in that VCU has it at 40-37 with 23% undecided and that there was very little enthusiasm about the contest thus far.

It irked the former governor how close we are to the election and yet the public knows “very little” about either nominee – Democrat Terry McAuliffe and Republican Glenn Youngkin.

Wilder said that if he were Terry McAuliffe he would “be very concerned” since McAuliffe, a former governor, was at 40% just over two months from Election Day and there are no issues “connecting him to the people” along with “no real breakdown of the issues” for either nominee.

This backs up what both campaigns say about each other.

But let’s be honest, that’s by design. In football, if you are ahead in the late stages of a game, you play what is called Prevent Defense — you give up a lot of yards but hopefully not enough points to lose. You prevent losing.

In politics, it’s called Prevent Offense — you give your opponent nothing that can be turned into a club with which to hit you. Prevent Offense.

Doug Wilder was ardently non-partisan throughout the entire conversation focusing on the data from the poll and his observations of the race. He felt the poll sampling was good reflecting the composition of the Commonwealth. This one also lines up generally with the other polls released so far.

VCU will be doing two more polls on this race – one in early September and then in early October.

When I pointed out that Biden’s numbers in this poll were at 51-47 before the collapse of Kabul and that USA Today/Suffolk poll had the president at just at a 41% approval, Wilder agreed:

That is not going to help (McAuliffe) if Biden is going to campaign with him.
Wilder also thinks that the “anti-Trump sentiment” is now just “wafting in the air – he’s gone! As a voter, what can I do to Trump?”

At every turn in the conversation, I would try to steer it back to a particular candidate but Wilder would turn it to the voters. He openly chastised both candidates without naming them directly for not answering the question,
Why should I vote for you? Voters are not stupid. If it’s more education spending, be specific. How much more and where will the money come from? Voters want to vote for something.

Wilder was also very clear that “both candidates need to articulate relative to minorities specifically” their plans for K-12 education, Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs), broadband, and public safety.

He was especially pointed on K-12 education and charter schools noting – again — the need for specifics on key areas like early childhood education, “nourishment, and transportation.”

While Wilder was openly critical about the lack of accountability for local school boards and questioned the efficacy of having elected school boards, he said that “their hands are tied” since they ultimately don’t control the budgets of the school system.

Who suffers? Those who have suffered for generations – minorities.

If I can blend Wilder’s quote about truth being non partisan with a line from the Netflix movie The Two Popes during the scene when Pope Francis is hearing the confession of Pope Benedict XVI:

Truth may be vital, and is not partisan, but without love, it can be unbearable.

I think that’s why Doug Wilder is still relevant in our political discourse.
The truth is that the man still loves the Commonwealth, its people, and our future.

For that, Good on Doug Wilder and may God grant him many more days.

Chris Saxman is executive director of Virginia FREE. This column is republished with permission from The Intersection on Substack.


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21 responses to “Wilder’s Take on the McAuliffe-Youngkin Race”

  1. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    Interesting piece

  2. tmtfairfax Avatar
    tmtfairfax

    I have always admired Governor Wilder, whether or not I liked what he did on specific issues. I think the man is honest. Perfect? No, but a decent man who tried to do his best in life. I especially liked his decision not to tax his way out of the fiscal challenges he faced. He likely caused pain at the Washington Post. And that is a good thing. I hope the Governor makes it to 100.

  3. DJRippert Avatar
    DJRippert

    I’m a bit surprised that the ongoing COVID surge didn’t factor into the discussion. While Virginia has avoided the worst of the Delta variant surge to date that is probably more due to luck than anything else.

    The COVID surge is running rampant in Kentucky right now. Daily cases in Kentucky are now challenging the all time high and hospitalizations are at an all time high.

    Virginia has a +8% advantage over Kentucky in vaccinations but remains far behind COVID ravaged Israel.

    Biden’s general booster plan starts Sept 20.

    All of these factors COULD lead to a perfect storm of chaos as the Delta variant sweeps through Virginia in October before the Biden booster program has had time to take effect.

    Meanwhile, this week is off to a bad start in Virginia as 28 COVID deaths were reported Monday and 18 yesterday. Both numbers far above the 7 day average of 10.

    In keeping with Doug Wilder’s comments, it would be nice to hear from both candidates what they would do as governor regarding COVID.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      re: hear from Gov candidates on COVID. Agree.

  4. Donald Smith Avatar
    Donald Smith

    Nice.

  5. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    It’s been several years now since I had a chance to catch up with Wilder, and it was standing in a restaurant, so not a long chat. I’m jealous, Chris!

    Not crazy about that “likely voter” screening question, and I really doubt a high 90% of that sample will actually vote. Throw out the undecideds and Terry is up 52-48 among those with an opinion. Yes, that is somewhat precarious for a candidate who must be viewed as an incumbent. But Glenn has a hill to climb.

    It may be that in a few more weeks, Biden is a deeper problem for the Democrats than Trump is for the Republicans.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      re: ” Biden is a deeper problem for the Democrats than Trump is for the Republicans”

      In Virginia? DOes that mean Amanda Chase has disappeared?

      Good analysis from Saxman.

      I seem to remember some controversy with Wilder , am I wrong?

      Finally, that’s a pretty good number for undecided – do we know more demographics?

      My view – Youngkin will need to convince independents and undecided that he is not a hard right guy.

      Think about how Northam got in, Who did Tim Kaine beat?

      and this:

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dc81491acbce1c95d7844a3b1bc7f62607bd8e82d78ff6c940860e7d9d97e511.jpg

      1. UltraModerate Avatar
        UltraModerate

        Amanda Chase has not disappeared at all. There’s a bunch of people planning to write her in. Thinking about it myself. We need to band together around a real conservative, not some hand-picked RINO.

      2. You quoted Mr. Haner out of context. The phrase: *It may be that in a few more weeks, which preceded the part of his remark you quoted, changes his meaning considerably.

        * Emphasis mine.

        1. Stephen Haner Avatar
          Stephen Haner

          When the Taliban start killing Americans on social media, Biden’s star will dim. Hope it doesn’t happen but it could.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Oh… and if it turns out some of the Afghan refugees to the USA turn out to be Al Queida… the guano really hits the fan!

            And then it’s curtains for the Dems when Trump comes back…

            Oh Happy Day!

          2. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            It wasn’t on social media, but you were only 21 hours off about killing occurring.

        2. Matt Adams Avatar
          Matt Adams

          Don’t forget his often used “tu quoque”.

  6. I have never met him, but Mr. Wilder has always struck me as an honest, honorable and decent man with whom I disagree on several issues which are important to me.

    And despite those differences, if he was running for governor this year I would vote for him over either of the two front-running candidates.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      A fellow reporter back in the day, Kent Jenkins, used to say “all things being equal, vote for good copy.” Wilder was damn good copy and still is!

  7. UltraModerate Avatar
    UltraModerate

    Youngkin has no spine. I can’t believe the Richmond RINOs pushed this loser on us. I know a bunch of people writing in Amanda Chase, and I’m leaning that way too.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Richmond RINOs? What was that region, about 10 percent of the GOP convention vote? Youngkin emerged with a NOVA base as the others ripped themselves and the others into tiny pieces, mostly ignoring him. A “Write-in Amanda” gets votes numbered in the few hundred, maybe a couple of thou, each actually a vote for TMac. This is what Dems understand and GOPPERS do not, you go with the nominee even if you have to wince.

      DJ, I’ve been worried about the impact of a COVID surge among the unvaccinated for a long time and it’s here. But this time around the GOP is strongly encouraging early voting so I don’t expect a big drop off in participation from those afraid to to in person Nov. 2.

      But the GOP candidates are once against going to be attacked as pandering to the self-centered and selfish who do not take the steps a majority of voters want taken — vaccines and masks, etc. If COVID is the number one issue, that’s not good.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        I dunno about NoVa and some suburbs but I AM wondering about Red rural Va voting. What saves Youngkin in rural Va might be the down-ballot GOP candidates but in districts where the GOP incumbent is solid – some might sit home.

  8. Kathleen Smith Avatar
    Kathleen Smith

    Don’t forget the axe over his door. Fiscal health is important at this juncture. I agree with his take on K-12. As Governor- he wasn’t public education’s friend. He cut the department’s full time employees in half. Didn’t lose too many services though. School choice is needed.

  9. Merchantseamen Avatar
    Merchantseamen

    I thought that guy was dead. Word had it that his son was ready to pull a Hunter Bidet type deal. The deal was….he would gobble up some 10 ABC licenses if they went private. All he had to do was sign the paper. At some $10,000 to $500,000 each and a finite amount, average Joe is left swinging in the wind again from the back room deals. Crony Capitalism at its finest.

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