Why Local Leaders Won’t Say The G Word

by Kerry Dougherty

If you want to understand what’s going on with the surge in violent crime in Tidewater, you really need to watch the movie “Jaws.”

Remember how the mayor of Amity wanted to keep the beaches open even after he knew that a massive, man-eating Great White shark was feeding in local waters?

Well, that’s what’s going on around here, but with gang activity. No one wants to talk about it, because it might discourage tourism and investment. Never mind that not only are gang members shooting each other, but sometimes innocents are caught in the crossfire.

Instead, local leaders wring their hands, clear their throats, hold meetings and politely talk around the problem.

Heck, if they’re lucky, they’ll even get glowing newspaper coverage — with headlines like “Hampton Roads Leaders Zero In on Crime” — to show that they’re taking “gun violence” seriously.

Oh, please.

Truth is, until someone is willing to say the “G” word — gangs — the shooting won’t stop and the bodies will continue to pile up.

And piling up, they are. According to a Virginian-Pilot report in April, shooting deaths are soaring this year.

Hampton Roads’ seven largest cities reported 62 killings in the first 111 days of 2022 — or one every 1.8 days.

That’s an alarming statistic.

Street-level law enforcement officers — and I’ve talked to several — say that as long as these leaders refuse to publicly acknowledge that the area has a gang problem, the crime stats will continue to climb.

And we aren’t just talking about the well-known street gangs the Bloods, Crips, Latin Kings and MS-13, but a plethora of neighborhood gangs.

Fact is, many of the shootings in Newport News, Hampton, Portsmouth, Norfolk, Chesapeake, Suffolk and Virginia Beach are likely instigated by gang members who are settling scores, engaging in turf wars or engaging in gang initiation activities.

Nevertheless, here are the main goals of this local braintrust that’s supposedly tackling “rising gun violence in the area” according to The Virginian-Pilot:

The four main goals are…reducing the amount of time police officers must spend handling mental health detention orders so they can focus on other duties; providing conflict resolution and mediation skills training in public schools; getting authorization to allow retired law enforcement officers to assist local departments and agencies; and identifying barriers and opportunities for using technology to address violence and crime.

Notice anything missing? No mention of gangs.

Before we went on the air with Friday’s Kerry and Mike Show on AM-790 WNIS we phoned a local law enforcement member who works on the gang problem. We asked about the prevalence of local gang activity and how many gangs are active.

He whistled and uttered a mild expletive.

“Including neighborhood gangs? Literally hundreds of them,” he replied. “We know who they are and we try to keep tabs on them.”

Odd.

You’d think that any group of leaders seriously trying to curb local shootings would at least acknowledge that street gangs exist and are a part of the violent crime epidemic.

Nah. They’d rather focus on conflict resolution and mediation skills classes in schools.

Sigh.

Let’s at least call this what it is: The “Jaws” syndrome.

This column has been republished with permission from Kerry: Unemployed & Unedited.


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68 responses to “Why Local Leaders Won’t Say The G Word”

  1. Damn those Irish gangs in top hats. You’d think they’d be easy to identify…..

  2. DJRippert Avatar

    Another problem with today’s “woke” attitudes. Report after report about the demographics of street gangs shows that those gangs, especially in the cities, are disproportionately male, Black and Hispanic. Therefore, going after “gangs” means law enforcement targeting organizations that are predominately composed of minorities. Politicians don’t want to talk about it and the police are afraid to be aggressive lest the “woke mob” accuse them of racism.

    So, the issue festers while America’s liberals cackle incessantly about the grave threat of white supremacism. While White supremacism is real and a real threat (remember Oklahoma City), it is not the only threat to society and, I’d venture to say, not the biggest driver of crime.

    “Respondents provided information regarding the race/ethnicity of gang members in their jurisdictions. Law enforcement agencies report a greater percentage of Hispanic/Latino and African-American/black gang members compared with other race/ethnicities. The most recent figures provided by law enforcement are 46 percent Hispanic/Latino gang members, 35 percent African-American/black gang members, more than 11 percent white gang members, and 7 percent other race/ethnicity of gang members.”

    While this study is dated I haven’t found any studies that contradict these findings. If someone knows of such a study, I’d be happy to see it.

    https://nationalgangcenter.ojp.gov/survey-analysis/demographics#:~:text=Race%2FEthnicity%20of%20Gang%20Members%20by%20Area%20Type,predominate%20among%20documented%20gang%20members.

  3. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    1968 Norfolk. The Aces. Gang of jocks. Lots of NPD in the 70s and 80s were Aces. Change of colors.

    1. It’s not a gang, it’s a club…

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Like the Renegades just like motorcycles.

        1. Exactly…

          Also, that was an old Saturday Night Live reference (Boulevard of Proud Chicano Cars, 05/12/1979).

    2. DJRippert Avatar

      1968 was 54 years ago.

        1. DJRippert Avatar

          The article does mention those gangs. From the 1950s …

          “A former school superintendent, now a Norfolk School Board Member, Mr. Stewart says in a phone interview that he was raised in poverty and became a member of the “Aces” gang during the 1950s.

          Despite bitter rivalry, he and opposing gang members “The Snakes” often did something similar to what the Tribal Huks are doing today in New Zealand by bringing food to impoverished children in their respective areas.”

          The 1950s were between 62 and 72 years ago.

          What does any of that have to do with today?

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Food uncertainty. In 2014, it was 1 in 7. Today, 1 in 5. Gangs offer stability to these folks, stability and food.

          2. Actually, the experts say that in 2019/2020 the number was about 1 in 8.

            I guess that means at least one thing did improve while Trump was president. Based on recent events, I would not be surprised if it actually is 1 in 5 today.

            https://hungerandhealth.feedingamerica.org/understand-food-insecurity/

          3. Actually, the experts say that in 2019/2020 the number was about 1 in 8.

            I guess that means at least one thing did improve while Trump was president. Based on recent events, I would not be surprised if it actually is 1 in 5 today.

            https://hungerandhealth.feedingamerica.org/understand-food-insecurity/

          4. Actually, the experts say that in 2019/2020 the number was about 1 in 8.

            I guess that means at least one thing did improve while Trump was president. Based on recent events, I would not be surprised if it actually is 1 in 5 today.

            https://hungerandhealth.feedingamerica.org/understand-food-insecurity/

          5. Actually, the experts say that in 2019/2020 the number was about 1 in 8.

            I guess that means at least one thing did improve while Trump was president. Based on recent events, I would not be surprised if it actually is 1 in 5 today.

            https://hungerandhealth.feedingamerica.org/understand-food-insecurity/

          6. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            As a youth in the South Bronx of NYC in the 1950s, we made zip guns using aerials from autos, a slice of inner tube, and a latch lock. Were firearms as easily available as they are today, the stats would have been horrific for the time.

          7. Matt Adams Avatar

            “Were firearms as easily available as they are today, the stats would have been horrific for the time.”

            Firearms were easier to procure in the 50’s then they are today. There is a plethora more legislation the impacts firearm ownership.

            The only Laws that would’ve impacted firearm ownership in the 50’s was the 1934 NFA.

          8. Wow, at almost a buck a round that puppy was expensive to shoot back then. 100 rounds would cost nearly as much as the rifle. Only the wealthy need apply. At a nickel a round the Mauser ammo was a pretty good deal.

          9. I think that .50 caliber stuff is about $5 per round now.

          10. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2b66c16be0df00cbed1642f73428972fa8ab30f581ad4627c67c6777d4f5dd9b.jpg

            I have many more mail-order firearm ads from the 1950s, but I think you get the picture.

          11. From the song:

            Zolgotz, Zolgotz, what have you done?
            You shot Mr. McKinley with that Ivor Johnson gun
            From Buffalo to Washington…

          12. That’s it:) New Lost City Ramblers did a good version too.

          13. Were firearms as easily available [in the 1950s] as they are today, the stats would have been horrific for the time.

            That may be the most ignorant comment you have ever posted to this site. Firearms were much easier to obtain in the 1950s than they are today.

            In the 1950s you could buy rifles, shotguns and handguns in hardware stores – without background checks. You could also order any of the above through the mail – again with no background checks.

            I don’t know where you get your information about guns, but I suggest you consider seeking out a different source.

          14. Matt Adams Avatar

            Maybe he didn’t know Lee Harvey order his Italian Carbine through the mail in ’63 before employing it against a POTUS.

            Edit:
            I believe my father has a Sears and Roebuck 12 gauge double barrel at home somewhere.

          15. OOPS. Posted to wrong place.

          16. That may be the most ignorant comment you (Jim McCarthy) have ever posted to this site.

            That may well be true, but he has posted very stiff competition for that honor.

          17. Matt Adams Avatar

            Maybe he didn’t know Lee Harvey order his Italian Carbine through the mail in ’63 before employing it against a POTUS.

            Edit:
            I believe my father has a Sears and Roebuck 12 gauge double barrel at home somewhere.

          18. My father purchased my “best Christmas present ever” .22 bolt action rifle from a Sears catalog in 1976. At that time I think he was required to pick it up at the store because direct home delivery was no longer available, but there was definitely no background check involved.

          19. Matt Adams Avatar

            That would’ve been a wonderful Christmas gift. Mine was a Red Rider BB Gun. The deer rifle and shotgun were my own purchases.

            No matter what happened to Ralphie, you could never shoot your eye out with the Red Rider, it didn’t have much behind it

          20. OOPS. Posted to wrong place.

          21. This one is from 1960, before the military adopted the AR platform for military use as the M-16.

            It’s pretty clear the original Armalite-designed Colt AR Sporter (aka AR-15) was intended as a sporting rifle, not a military replica:

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1d8719f3b0697f83e9e248412b9c0584988de653c51d74db6929c30467c186f8.jpg .

  4. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    Not sure why it’s news there are criminal gangs in Tidewater. There were in the mid to late 1970s when I covered cops there for The Virginian-Pilot. They tended to be loosely organized. Plus, I saw the results up close and personal. Bodies. That sort of thing. Now if the author meant “GUNS” for the “G Word” that would be something else.

    1. Not sure why it would be news that criminal gangs use guns in the commission of their crimes in Tidewater. They were using them in the late-60s through early 80s when I grew up there…

    2. Not sure why it would be news that criminal gangs use guns in the commission of their crimes in Tidewater. They were using them in the late-60s through early 80s when I grew up there…

  5. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    Neighborhood gangs are nothing new in Hampton Roads. Just read “Makes Me Wanna Holler” by Nathan McCall, who grew up in Portsmouth in the early 1970s and served time in the state prison in Southampton County.

    The main difference now is probably that they are better armed, but Kerry does not want to talk about that. Nor does she offer any suggestion as to what to do about them.

    1. Jail, Jail, Jail. A firearm in the hands of a convicted criminal is worth 10 years behind bars for the state and an additional 10 years for the Federal violation… but rarely prosecuted! WHY?

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        “… but rarely prosecuted!”

        Can you provide evidence for this statement?

        “WHY?”

        If true, often a prosecutor will take other charges off the table in exchange for a guilty plea for some of the charges (often lesser ones). Our justice system at work for better or worse – it certainly is not uncommon and crosses political parties.

    2. DJRippert Avatar

      Stop and frisk anybody seen in gang colors – regardless of their race? Let me guess – that would be racist.

      1. “- that would be racist.” Maybe, but for sure it would be a violation of the 4th Amendment prohibition of searches without probable cause that we fought a revolution to secure.

    3. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Isn’t that what Kerry was referring to as the “g” word —- guns?

  6. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    “And piling up, they are. According to a Virginian-Pilot report in April, shooting deaths are soaring this year.

    Hampton Roads’ seven largest cities reported 62 killings in the first 111 days of 2022 — or one every 1.8 days.”

    Well, first Kerry, you know it is nearly October don’t you…??

    Also, your selective quoting of the article (while par for the course) is somewhat dishonest (imagine that!)… From that same article:

    “…homicides are up as nonfatal shootings are down — with total shootings holding about even…”

    I know you have to hawk your radio show, but maybe try doing some basic research before writing your next piece…

    1. Are you saying that guns should be outlawed so that only the criminals will have guns?

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        Not sure where you got that message from what I wrote…

        1. Selective Quoting!

          1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Yes, Kerry did selectively quote the article she referenced in order to draw a conclusion that was definitely not drawn by the article when all the data was considered. Still has nothing to do with outlawing guns…. 🤷‍♂️

    2. “…homicides are up as nonfatal shootings are down — with total shootings holding about even…”

      I don’t see your point, unless you’re saying criminals are becoming better marksmen.

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        That may be one conclusion – they actually discuss this point in the article as well. Luck may play a large roll as well. I think it may just be the proliferation of high capacity clips and assault-type rifles (vs. hand guns). The “point” is that Kerry pointed to this article as proof that there is a “surge in violent crimes” by selectively (dishonestly?) citing the data presented. The whole picture is that this article concluded that total shootings are/were not up – no surge in violent crime was evident.

        1. Look for different causes:

          “Assault-type” rifles are used in a very small percentage of homicides committed with firearms. You can keep pretending that is not the case if you wish, but it will not make it so.

          As far as “high capacity clips [sic]” go, handguns with 15-20 round magazines have been available for more than 125 years.

          Finally, I don’t know about you, but as far as end results go, I consider murder to be a more serious violent crime than attempted murder.

          1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            First, I clearly stated this was what I think but neither of us have particular data on the so-called surge in violence in Tidewater. If you do, I would be interested in looking at it.

            Also, in Virginia, when someone is charged with an attempted felony, the punishments associated with that charge are based on the punishment for the felony that the person intended to commit. The law sees no difference between the two (and it shouldn’t). Nonetheless, Kerry clearly stated that there is a “surge in violent crime” in Tidewater but (intentionally?) failed to cite the data from her article that said that gun violence overall is actually flat – violence itself was not surging. You can spin it any way you like but the truth is there in black and white.

          2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            First, I clearly stated this was what I think but neither of us have particular data on the so-called surge in violence in Tidewater. If you do, I would be interested in looking at it.

            Also, in Virginia, when someone is charged with an attempted felony, the punishments associated with that charge are based on the punishment for the felony that the person intended to commit. The law sees no difference between the two (and it shouldn’t). Nonetheless, Kerry clearly stated that there is a “surge in violent crime” in Tidewater but (intentionally?) failed to cite the data from her article that said that gun violence overall is actually flat – violence itself was not surging. You can spin it any way you like but the truth is there in black and white.

          3. Matt Adams Avatar

            Dieudonne Saive of FN invented the double stack magazine in 1921 (thus giving us the Browning Hi Power).

          4. The Mauser C96 (made by Mauser starting in 1896) had a 20-round factory magazine available for it – albeit single-stack.

          5. Matt Adams Avatar

            The good old C96.

            If you’ve got time and are so inclined, I suggest the Military Arms Channel Youtube channel. The purveyor was Marine and gives his reviews on firearms past and present and talks about legislation impacting firearms.

          6. I’d love to have an old C96, but they are out of my price range. It was ahead of its time, in my opinion.

            I’m pretty sure the 7.63×25mm Mauser cartridge utilized by the C96 was the highest-velocity commercially-available pistol cartridge from 1896 until the .357 magnum was unveiled in 1934.

          7. I’d love to have an old C96, but they are out of my price range. It was ahead of its time, in my opinion.

            I’m pretty sure the 7.63×25mm Mauser cartridge utilized by the C96 was the highest-velocity commercially-available pistol cartridge from 1896 until the .357 magnum was unveiled in 1934.

          8. Matt Adams Avatar

            Nice little tidbit. It’s also crazy that the difference between that C96 round and an AK R round is 29mm.

            I see a resurgence with those wonky pistol calibers coming. Ruger, FN and a few others are really pushing their 5.7 x 28’s.

          9. Before I lost all my guns in a tragic boating accident in the deepest part of the Chesapeake Bay, I used to own an FN pistol. They are very well made.

            Mine was an FNX .45. It had a 15-round double-stack magazine. To this day it is hands-down the most accurate .45 ACP handgun I have ever fired. The only disadvantage it had was its size – the thing was way too big to conceal carry.

          10. Matt Adams Avatar

            Well at least Davy Jones (the Pirate not the Monkey) will be well armed.

            I too had a boating accident, it was a H&K USP 40 (just something about that German quality), also way to large for a conceal carry unless I were to wear a 3 XXL.

          11. Those were surprisingly soft shooting. A combo of size, good design and the polymer frame maybe?

          12. Matt Adams Avatar

            Correct, polymer frame. Only the slide and barrel are steel. The aforementioned to wayne YouTube channel did an abuse test with it and it took all the lickings and kept on ticking.

            Something about a product with proofing marka all over every piece gives you the warm and fuzzies on quality. If only I hadn’t lost it to the depths.

            Even used the piece set me back $800.

          13. So sad, our thoughts are with you for your loss, although sadly a much more frequent occurrence in recent years. I ascribe it to the proliferation and instability of boats.

            Forgotton weapons with gun Jesus is another interesting channel with a lot of arcane research.

          14. And yet our glorious leader assures us that 5.56mm “assault rifle” rounds are 5 times as fast as everything else and that unlike anything else 9mm pistol rounds will blow your lungs out of your body. Who’da guessed it?

          15. Matt Adams Avatar

            That’s because they don’t understand ballistics and depend on their listeners to be equally uneducated. Which knowing the commenters on this forum, they are batting 1000% for that one.

      2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        That may be one conclusion – they actually discuss this point in the article as well. Luck may play a large roll as well. I think it may just be the proliferation of high capacity clips and assault-type rifles (vs. hand guns). The “point” is that Kerry pointed to this article as proof that there is a “surge in violent crimes” by selectively (dishonestly?) citing the data presented. The whole picture is that this article concluded that total shootings are/were not up – no surge in violent crime was evident.

    3. “…homicides are up as nonfatal shootings are down — with total shootings holding about even…”

      I don’t see your point, unless you’re saying criminals are becoming better marksmen.

  7. James C. Sherlock Avatar
    James C. Sherlock

    Hampton Roads cities, should they wish to face up to the problem, may wish to consider the Richmond example of the federal Office of Justice Programs Gang Reduction and Intervention Program [GRIP]. https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/231200.pdf

    See https://www.baconsrebellion.com/app/uploads/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-26-at-9.59.08-AM.png

    The National Sheriff’s Association has a write up on it. https://nnw.org/publication/deterring-gangs-your-neighborhood-turf#:~:text=The%20Richmond%20Gang%20Reduction%20and%20Intervention%20Program%20%28GRIP%29,working-class%20population%2C%20with%20an%20increase%20in%20Hispanic%20residents.

    Nothing is perfect, but GRIP is at least an organized attempt to deal with gangs.

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