Who Speaks for the Parents of “Normal” Kids?

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Julie Landry’s autistic son had trouble adapting to 2nd grade in Fairfax County schools. The rambunctious lad was prone to outbursts. In one incident in April, the boy ignored instructions during P.E. class, ran around the gym, yelling and throwing volleyballs, and, when teachers tried to restrain him, punched, kicked, head-butted and bit multiple staff members. Three were injured and required medical attention.

So, here’s the question. How do we balance the rights of the Landry boy to a “mainstreamed” education versus the rights of other students to not have their classroom disrupted?

A panel of school officials and special-education experts, reports the Washington Post, determined that the lad’s actions were caused by his disability, a finding that saved him from facing expulsion. School authorities did reassign him to a different school — an action defended on the grounds of protecting staff members — and the Landry family appealed the decision. After a lot of back and forth, the boy was admitted to the private Phillips School in Annandale; his tuition will be paid by the Comprehensive Services Act.

The Landry kid is just one of thousands of children with disabilities in Fairfax schools. In the 2011-2012 school year, the 14% of the school population classified as disabled accounted for 40% of long-term suspensions. Last month the School Board voted to revise school discipline policies to address the disparity in mandatory suspensions and expulsions.

It’s not easy raising “normal” kids. I know — I have three! It has been rewarding but never easy. My heart goes out to parents with children with disabilities, and I cannot blame them for wanting the best for them. But disabled kids are not the only ones with rights. Children who don’t disrupt classes have rights, too, among them the right to attend classes where teachers don’t spend a severely disproportionate amount of class time dealing with behavior problems.

Julie Landry says she’d love for her kid to be in his base school, “making connections with his peers in the neighborhood.” Yes, that would be nice. But does that nicety trump the right of kids in the neighborhood to their own education? It sounds like the best decision was reached — the Landry boy will attend a specialized facility designed to accommodate special needs students.

That still leaves the other 60% of disciplinary cases caused by students who are not “disabled.” Many, no doubt, are poor and have not been socialized according to middle-class behavioral norms. I’m sure every one of them has a heart-wrenching tale to tell. Most were neglected, abused or suffered extreme hardship in some way. What about their “rights?”

Here’s my argument: My right to swing my fist ends at your nose. Likewise, no one has a “right” to participate in a class where they disrupt another child’s education. If a kid suffers from a disability, socio-economic disadvantage or just lousy parenting, that’s a personal tragedy. School systems should have places where such kids can continue their education. But their right to an education should not supersede the same right of students who are able and willing to behave themselves.

— JAB


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7 responses to “Who Speaks for the Parents of “Normal” Kids?”

  1. larryg Avatar

    Ask any K-3 teacher and they will tell you how they have to spend inordinate amounts of time on a small minority of kids – to the detriment of the rest of the class – AND most of them are “normal” and not disabled.

    3/4 of the “disrupters” have no real problem other than a lack of parenting and they can be just as disruptive as a child who actually does have a real disability.

    And it gets worse because more often than not – the disruptive child also have a disruptive parent who believes the teacher is being “unfair” to their child and goes straight to the principal or even the school board to lodge a complaint.

    At that point – that teacher is reassessing whether that career is really a good choice especially given the anti-teacher, “bad” teacher, public sentiment these days.

    I sometimes think that one of the reasons people want Charter Schools or “Choice” is hopes that they will deal with the “disrupters” more effectively than the public school system will.

    Teachers are expected to become de-facto surrogate parents for kids whose own parents are abysmal.

    we had a case where a kid (in high school) was expelled for shooting plastic “spitballs” at other students and teachers – and his Dad – and a Conservative “rights” group (Rutherford) disputed the punishment and took the school to court.

    http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/spitball-equivalent_incident_gets_boy_14_expelled_from_high_school/

    the incident was characterized in this way by the defenders:

    ” “What happened to Andrew Mikel is an example of how oppressive zero-tolerance policies have become,” institute president John Whitehead said. “School officials have developed a very dangerous mindset that allows virtually no freedom for students, while at the same time criminalizing childish behavior.”

  2. Breckinridge Avatar
    Breckinridge

    Many people prefer charter schools or choose a private school because they can send their problems kids back to the public schools. People are trying to escape the general population.

    I review the state of education in this country, and the way that the “rights” of the few have limited the opportunity of the many, and the resource allocations that result, and I have two words of advice: Learn Chinese.

  3. larryg Avatar

    Public education is what defines the OECD countries and distinguishes more than any other single thing from 3rd world and developing world countries.

    poor does not equate to disruptive.

    many, many, more kids of economically disadvantaged circumstances benefit from public schooling than other kids harmed from disruptive kids.

    rather than dealing with the problem – we have this advocacy that not only will kids of well-off parents attend charter schools but so will “properly-behaved” kids of the economically disadvantaged and oh yes, we’ll pay for it with the same taxes that pay for public schools.

    what goes on in the public schools is generally representative of our society, in many respects.

    it’s not small thing to me that virtually all the other OECD countries not only do better than us academically but they do so with less money.

    fundamentally, ANY SCHOOL has to have some level of order just as a workplace has to or any other institution where people are collectively engaged in some endeavor – like a hospital or a police force , etc.

    we do not tolerate “disruptive” folks in the workforce like we seem to in the schools. I think it’s time for the teacher to have a camera in the room and to document the kids who are disruptive – present the proof to the parent and go from there.

    parents of disruptive kids are, by their denial of the problem – taking away from other kids AND putting enormous pressure on a teacher whose job is already quite difficult these days.

    NOT dealing with disruptive kids and their bad-behavior-enabling parents is actually driving a movement to abandon the public schools…..

    none of us have the right – in a busy McDonalds, on a crowded highway, or waiting in line somewhere – to impose ourselves on others yet we excuse this behavior in some kids… and everyone else – other kids, the teacher, the principal and other parents have to put up with…. it.

    we need to have standards for behavior and they need to be enforced.

    kids need to learn – even if their parents don’t know -that school is a shared activity -and each person has a personal responsibility.

    we have “special needs” classes for kids who have needs for certain kinds of help.

    I wonder if we need one for kids who are disruptive in K-6?

    you show the parent the video evidence, give fair warning, then take action.

  4. DJRippert Avatar
    DJRippert

    Point well taken, Jim. My oldest son went to a Fairfax County public high school just like I did. What I saw there gave me cause for concern. Lots of kids acting out and lots of teachers not giving a damn. Now, don’t get me wrong – most kids did not act out and most teachers did care. But – the number of miscreants in the student body and the number of teachers who were willing to turn a blind eye were just to big. My next three sons all went to private school. I am glad that I have the means to send them to private school.

  5. larryg Avatar

    re: “blind eye”. You need to ask those teachers why. The administration often does not support them. If they make an issue of the behavior, they can and are accused of not being competent in “classroom management”. In other words, the administration will blame the teacher, put it in their record, and downstream use it against them if the parents get involved.

    It’s not the teachers. If they have the written rules AND the support of the rules by administrators then they perform per the policies that are enforced.

    This really is a problem when people who can afford to take their kids out of public schools which in turn empowers the Charter/Choice movement which will then get to operate by a different set of rules especially with regard to “disruptive kids”.

    we need the public schools to have the same ability to deal with these kinds of issues that charter/private schools have.

    1. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      Teachers seem to be able to organize and wield immense power when it comes to their salaries and pensions. For that same group to plead helplessness when it comes to matters affecting the children seems pretty sketchy to me.

  6. larryg Avatar

    I do not think they plead “helplessness”. They just learn not to challenge administrative policies that could affect their employment.

    When the administration puts the onus on the teacher to do whatever it takes to NOT have an issue advance to higher levels to deal with … that’s what they do.

    If the teachers are going to challenge the parents – and that’s where the problem is – on a child’s behavior – where it’s clear that the child has a continuing pattern of being disruptive – then the teachers need a firm policy that they can implement – assured that the principal and the administration are going to back them.

    Yes teachers will do what they can to get good salaries AND protect their job and when the administration says – “this is a classroom management problem” – then ….. it is …. and a disruptive kid and his parent will control that classroom.

    It’s your choice as a parent and taxpayer if that is what you want.

    no teacher is going to fall on their sword to be a proper parent to your brat that you are not.

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