Who Runs UVa? Part II

Yeah, yeah, another UVa post. Think of it this way: the governance issues at UVa are similar to those of every public university in Virginia.by James A. Bacon

In past posts The Jefferson Council has highlighted a recently published screed, “We’re Pissed Off; You Should Be Too,” that criticizes the governance structure of the University of Virginia. Among other grievances voiced, the authors note that state government provides only 11% of the funding for UVa’s academic division, yet the state controls the appointment of 100% of the board seats. The governance structure should be more “democratic,” they contend. Students and faculty should be given voting seats on the board.

“Currently, the BOV oversees 28,361 employees, as well as 23,721 undergraduate and graduate students. There are only 3 ways a BOV member can be removed, and none of them involve us,” laments the tract. [Emphasis in the original.] “The only apparatuses that have power over the BOV are other BOV members and the governor.”

Message to UVa lefties: the Board of Visitors is accountable to the citizens of Virginia — not you. You are employees, not owners. The Commonwealth of Virginia owns UVa, and the governance structure is designed to serve the citizenry, not university employees.

UVa is one of 15 public four-year colleges in Virginia. (Another is the University of Virginia-Wise, a small institution that is also governed by the UVa Board of Visitors and whose revenues and expenditures are lumped in with UVa in its financial reports.) Unlike some states, such as North Carolina, Virginia’s university system is decentralized. The State Council of Higher Education for Virginia (SCHEV) is mainly a coordinating body that maintains statistics, issues reports, and seeks to ensure that Virginia’s free-wheeling two- and four-year institutions don’t needlessly duplicate effort.

Virginia’s system of higher education serves citizens by preparing them for employment and civic life. To advance those aims the Commonwealth funnels yearly appropriations to its public colleges and universities, floats tax-privileged bond issues to underwrite building programs, subsidizes R&D activities, and allocates supplementary funding to academic programs deemed essential for a growing economy. The University of Virginia is an agency of the state government. It would make no more sense for UVa to function as a “democratic” institution than it would for the Department of Motor Vehicles, the State Police, or the state Medicaid program to do so.

The flaw in UVa governance is not that it is insufficiently democratic, it is that the university is too responsive to faculty and administrators, and not attentive enough to its intended beneficiaries: students and their tuition-paying parents. The administration dominates. For years the Board of Visitors has functioned as cheerleader for the ambitions of a succession of UVa presidents, including in recent years John Casteen, Teresa Sullivan and Jim Ryan.

(Occasionally, powerful rectors emerge. The Board broke from its passivity when then-Rector Helen Dragas forced Sullivan’s resignation. But Sullivan battled her way back into power, and Dragas and her board allies were chastened. With his dominating personality, hospitality-industry entrepreneur William H. Goodwin kept a close watch on spending. But he did not change core priorities.)

The interests of senior administrators are ill-aligned with those of Virginia’s citizenry. It is useful to view UVa as a prestige-maximizing institution driven not by the quest for profit but for status in the higher-ed community. UVa is locked in an endless arms race to gain in status compared to its peers. UVa’s administrators and board members aspire to reach Ivy League levels of renown. That means hiring celebrated faculty members who lend luster to the institution, erecting starchitect-caliber buildings, building the endowment, bolstering the level of sponsored R&D, and polishing the university’s image in the world beyond academe. In the past the prestige imperative also meant recruiting students with the highest SAT scores, although with the rise of wokeness, status is increasingly conferred upon institutions with preferred demographic profiles.

UVa, like other elite institutions, is run primarily for the benefit of an elite comprised of senior administrators (recruited mostly from other top universities) and tenured faculty. Administrators’ desiderata are adopted as the university’s priorities. Mission creep sets in. The number of Diversity, Equity & Inclusion administrators proliferates. Resources are allocated to making UVa “great and good” by exporting the university’s preoccupations with social-justice and climate change into the community at large. The bureaucracy absorbs an ever-bigger share of expenditures. That which cannot be funded by hiking tuition, fees, room, and board is raised from alumni by touting shiny objects such as building projects, the endowment of new programs, and the hiring of star faculty.

Administrators get to enlarge their bureaucratic turf and advance their ideological goals, and elite faculty are awarded with cushy contracts, endowment-supplemented salaries, and minimal teaching responsibilities. Non-tenured instructors and graduate students stand at the bottom of the academic hierarchy as contingent employees who are paid less to teach more. It’s not clear that students benefit at all.

That is the system that the authors of “We’re Pissed Off” are railing against. That system is not the invention of Bert Ellis, the Board of Visitors member who is the object of their venom. To the contrary, Ellis wants to root out bureaucratic excess that soaks up dollars that could go to lower tuition or higher wages. If the authors of “We’re Pissed Off” would take off their ideological blinders, they might understand that.

James A. Bacon is executive director of The Jefferson Council, an organization of UVa alumni.


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46 responses to “Who Runs UVa? Part II”

  1. Lefty665 Avatar

    “Currently, the BOV oversees 28,361 employees, as well as 23,721 undergraduate and graduate students.”

    That says it all right there. 1.2 employees for each student. That is obscene.

    In the ’90s hospitals went from about .75 employees to patients to over 1. That was largely as a result of the billing wars with insurers. UVa does not have even that excuse.

    1. keydet16 Avatar

      I concur, but do those employee stats include Doctors/Nurses at UVA med? Athletics Personnel? Not arguing, just curious.

      For what its worth, im enrolled at a Grad Program at UVA right now. We have ~2 Administrators overseeing things here, they’re extremely kind and friendly and…I have no idea what they do all day.

      1. Lefty665 Avatar

        Dunno anything more than the quoted numbers. It would seem reasonable to infer they are inclusive. I would not expect them to include patients in the hospital.

      2. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        The principle metric for assessing the academic mission is the ratio of faculty to students often expressed as FTE (Full Time Equivalency) of faculty and students. University campuses also employ folks to attend to buildings and grounds, police presence, secretarial personnel, among a few classes of non-instructional positions. The number of administrative positions – the group under question – can be assessed in relation to the scope of functions necessary to oversee all employees and functions.

        The two numbers cited are not helpful.

        1. Lefty665 Avatar

          A big part of the issue for UVa is the growth of overhead, things like DIE deans, staff and other overhead positions.

          The student teacher ratio is, as you note, a very important metric for instruction.

          The overall staff student ratio is a very important metric for total cost per student. Those are two very different issues, but both very important.

          From your comment a couple of weeks ago to a post on the growth of university overhead https://www.baconsrebellion.com/is-a-reckoning-coming-for-the-management-and-administrative-costs-at-virginias-state-colleges-and-universities/#more-106556 confessing failure to even recognize the concepts of time tracking and cost allocation it is not surprising you do not understand the importance of overall staffing ratios.

          More data would be very useful, but to blow off what data we have, 1.2 staff per student as “not helpful” is silly.

          Congrats, you have achieved another Jim McCarthy silly walk award.

          1. Lefty665 Avatar

            For example, if the average wage at UVa is $75k because of the proportion of highly paid staff, then 1.2 staff per student would be $90k wage expense per student. Add another 1/3 to that for fringes and you’re at $120k total personnel expense per student. That’s a pretty big bite.

      3. Matt Adams Avatar
        Matt Adams

        Doctor’s and Nurse’s unless they are faculty wouldn’t be included, they are a separate entity.

        1. Lefty665 Avatar

          Yes, but the hospital is part of UVa and reported in the budget. Docs and Nurses are staff there and state employees. While we don’t know for sure, it seems likely the personnel and student numbers come from the budget. If that’s the case they likely are in there.

          1. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Possible, I don’t have all the information.

            I found this https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title2.2/chapter28/section2.2-2817.2/, where it makes it even more murky.

            It looks like it gets even more convoluted after 1996 and again in 2006.

            https://hr.virginia.edu/uva-employee-category

          2. Lefty665 Avatar

            Interesting, nice legwork. Is the second link dispositive? It lists each category of employee. OTOH, dunno what this means: “Physicians are not Medical Center employees; they are generally joint
            appointments between UVA Physicians Group and the University’s School of
            Medicine.”

            What I can anecdotally relate is that I had in-laws who are a Doc and Nurse at UVa. Each year the RTD published a list of State employees and their salaries. I would look them up. It was fun to tease the Doc about how much UVa was paying him, especially as compared to my then wife who was a scientist. The Doc was well compensated, the scientist and nurse, not so much.

          3. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Isn’t that the truth, my BIL is a Physician and my wife is nurse. Two different states, but neither are for the State.

            That ties back into the previous articles where I went round with someone about nursing compensation. It was a pointless argument, as I know the salary at two different VA healthcare systems and how the one has a monopoly is NOVA and sets the price.

  2. M. Purdy Avatar

    A few questions here, which I might have missed. Who was the screed by? Was it employees, grad students? And I’m not sure I track the whole accountability vs. democracy vs. ownership thing. The state doesn’t “own” UVa, it’s a state organ as it’s correctly described later in the post. The BOV is not *directly* beholden to voters, they’re beholden to the Gov. That’s no doubt by design, b/c you can’t run a college by plebiscite. But at the same time, you seem to be saying that the school needs to be more responsive to tuition paying parents, which would mean additional democratization. Does the JC want more democracy in the management of the school? Does that mean it wants parents, voters, taxpayers, who exactly making those calls? Or is it pleased with the system we have now, the Gov. as the chief exec of the state has indirect governance with a Senate check? What structural changes does the JC want? Should UVa seek to become a school more accessible to the average student of the average taxpayer? Or does it want UVa to maintain elite status, and if so, can it live with the consequences of that tradeoff?

  3. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    re: ” The University of Virginia is an agency of the state government. It would make no more sense for UVa to function as a “democratic” institution than it would for the Department of Motor Vehicles, the State Police, or the state Medicaid program to do so.”

    uh… no…. good thing the folks that think this way are
    kept away from having any influence over UVA IMO.

    re: ” (Occasionally, powerful rectors emerge. The Board broke from its passivity when then-Rector Helen Dragas forced Sullivan’s resignation.”

    Someone please tell me exactly what Dragas was trying to achieve. It was never really clear and if it was about “woke” , it was the mother of all precursors and at the end of the day, Dragas did not come across looking like anyone who should continue her “work” at UVA at all.
    Whatever “vision” she had for UVA was more a mystery than anything substantiative.

    1. M. Purdy Avatar

      UVa is the DMV! That should be the new JC motto;-). I still don’t understand what it is that the JC is advocating for here…it wants less democracy from the Left, but wants more democracy from whom exactly? Bit jumbled.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        well, like Dragas, he wants control but not sure of the rest…

        1. M. Purdy Avatar

          Which, to go back to another post, is quite typical of today’s “conservatism.” It’s not conservative at all in the traditional sense. It just knows it wants certain outcomes no matter how it gets there.

    2. Cathis398 Avatar
      Cathis398

      UVa is nominally a State agency.

      However it is absolutely not–by its own charter–an agency in the sense that the DMV is. Faculty in particular have much more power and independence than most ordinary agency employees. This is written right into the University’s own policies and procedures (see here among many other places: https://provost.virginia.edu/faculty-handbook/faculty-role-university-governance ), as it is at most public universities and private ones as well.

      A public university is not exactly a “democracy,” but it also isn’t a regular corporate organization where the executive or the board has tremendous power to direct what happens beneath them. It has many democratic aspects, also written into the policies and procedures, some of them required by SCHEV and UVa’s accreditors as well.

      if anything, the people who made the pamphlet have a point: the state of Virginia supplies something like 6% of the operating budget of UVa. Contrast that with the 100% of most state agencies. It’s a good question why the state-appointed BOV should have so much power over an institution for which the state only provides a very small amount of funding.

    3. Cathis398 Avatar
      Cathis398

      UVa is nominally a State agency.

      However it is absolutely not–by its own charter–an agency in the sense that the DMV is. Faculty in particular have much more power and independence than most ordinary agency employees. This is written right into the University’s own policies and procedures (see here among many other places: https://provost.virginia.edu/faculty-handbook/faculty-role-university-governance ), as it is at most public universities and private ones as well.

      A public university is not exactly a “democracy,” but it also isn’t a regular corporate organization where the executive or the board has tremendous power to direct what happens beneath them. It has many democratic aspects, also written into the policies and procedures, some of them required by SCHEV and UVa’s accreditors as well.

      if anything, the people who made the pamphlet have a point: the state of Virginia supplies something like 6% of the operating budget of UVa. Contrast that with the 100% of most state agencies. It’s a good question why the state-appointed BOV should have so much power over an institution for which the state only provides a very small amount of funding.

      1. M. Purdy Avatar

        Yep, right on. Let UVa go private. It’s the only sensible thing to do.

      2. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        Am curious about employees. From a State perspective, are they essentially state employees?

        I know in K-12, Teachers are not employees of the state and subject to the policies of the local school district , including health insurance and contributions to retirement. But upon retirement, they receive VRS retirement.

        I think higher ed also gets VRS but do they get state health insurance and subject to other state personnel policies?

    1. Lefty665 Avatar

      The judges don’t look very diverse, although the wig is suggestive and the verdict of systemic guilt has a familiar ring to it.

  4. Do we. as a society, even know what the purpose of a university is anymore? Considering the reception that unpopular ideas and speakers recieve on campus today, it doesn’t appear to be broadening the students’ horizions.

    Maybe that’s the real discussion.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      …. higher ed ?

      Do college-educated folks have better educations than HS-educated?

    2. M. Purdy Avatar

      It’s a fair question in the sense that higher education is pricing itself out of the market. It is primed for disruption at a macro scale. But what do you mean by “unpopular speakers and ideas”? Do you think that if they were truly unpopular among students, potential students, and their parents, that a place like UVa would have received record applications and donations in the last two years? The marketplace does work to some extent, you know.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        I don’t think speakers have squat to do with the everyday lives of most folks matriculating… to be honest.

        And I agree, that whatever “effect” the speakers and associated issues are having, it’s close to zilch for the vast majority of kids and parents considering UVA.

        It’s a made-up issue from the usual suspects who are obsessed with these issues. “Speakers” have been a typical feature of higher ed for a long long time, long long before the “woke” wars.

      2. What I had in mind were incidents like the treatment of Judge Kyle Duncan at Stanford U by, not only the fascist students, but also the Assistant Dean of DEI. Universities in the western world had evolved into centers of inquiry, not indoctrination. That seems to be ending as incidents like the aforementioned are easy to find, and are seldom punished. The fact that the students were from the law school indicates that they previously received a 4 year education without learning either manners or tolerance, leaving them ill equipped to live in a pluralistic society, but making them excellent useful idiots for an intolerant state.

        So I ask, is this the purpose of higher education? Is this what we want in our schools?

        1. M. Purdy Avatar

          The incident at stanford was pretty terrible, but it’s not the norm. It got a lot of pub because it’s stanford law, a dean was involved, and the target was a sitting federal judge. Mind you, the dean is now on leave and the president of stanford released an official statement criticizing her and the students involved. So clearly, it’s not acceptable behavior. Furthermore, conservative groups like the federalist society are thriving at law schools, and regularly invite conservative judges to speak. You don’t hear about those everyday events because nothing happens…

          1. Actually it does happen. For over a decade, conservative speakers have been silenced on campus by the left. Books have been written about it, academic studies have confirmed its existence across the US, Canada and England, and simple internet searches will confirm its existence. If you’re not aware of it, perhaps it’s because you haven’t looked.

            You may not agree with Sowell, Thomas, Coulter, etc., but they have the right to be heard, or do they? It seems that the left has gone full in on the fascist technique of silencing opposing voices, and not just on campus. Nancy Pelosi removed the republican appointed members of the Jan6 committed and replaced them with her hand picked Trump haters – the left applauded.

            So, I ask again, do we want our universities to silence dissent or encourage it? It’s a question about our goals. It’s valid without any examples of its abuse.

          2. Actually it does happen. For over a decade, conservative speakers have been silenced on campus by the left. Books have been written about it, academic studies have confirmed its existence across the US, Canada and England, and simple internet searches will confirm its existence. If you’re not aware of it, perhaps it’s because you haven’t looked.

            You may not agree with Sowell, Thomas, Coulter, etc., but they have the right to be heard, or do they? It seems that the left has gone full in on the fascist technique of silencing opposing voices, and not just on campus. Nancy Pelosi removed the republican appointed members of the Jan6 committed and replaced them with her hand picked Trump haters – the left applauded.

            So, I ask again, do we want our universities to silence dissent or encourage it? It’s a question about our goals. It’s valid without any examples of its abuse.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Well, they can be and ARE heard but “free speech” is not anywhere you choose to want it.

            When you say “universities”, are you including all, public and private or just public?

            Are you talking about “spirit” or the law?

          4. M. Purdy Avatar

            “Trump haters”? Are you a Trump defender?

          5. Lefty665 Avatar

            You don’t have to be a Trump defender to be appalled at the travesty of a propaganda production the Jan 6 committee was. All you have to be is rational.

            Are you a defender of Schiff, Raskin and Cheney?

            I think Trump sucks, but the Dems and Jan 6 committee garbage sucks worse.

          6. I defend his right to a fair and impartial hearing, which Pelosi denied to him by stacking the committee.

          7. Lefty665 Avatar

            You don’t have to be a Trump defender to be appalled at the travesty of a propaganda production the Jan 6 committee was. All you have to be is rational.

            Are you a defender of Schiff, Raskin and Cheney?

            I think Trump sucks, but the Dems and Jan 6 committee garbage sucks worse.

          8. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Good question. Let’s see if there is an answer….

          9. Since I wasn’t on the committee, my feelings about Trump are irrelevant. The feelings of the committee members are relevant.
            Don’t you agree?

          10. M. Purdy Avatar

            You raised the issue, not me.

          11. You raised the issue of my feelings about Trump, which are irrelevant. The issue of the feelings of the committee members is relevant to determining the fairness of the committee.

            I’m beginning to understand why the question I first asked is so hard for you to answer.

    3. I’ve always liked this definition:

      “The real University, he said, has no specific location. It owns no property, pays no salaries and receives no material dues. The real University is a state of mind. It is that great heritage of rational thought that has been brought down to us through the centuries and which does not exist at any specific location. It’s a state of mind which is regenerated throughout the centuries by a body of people who traditionally carry the title of professor, but even that title is not part of the real University. The real University is nothing less than the continuing body of reason itself.

      In addition to this state of mind, ‘reason,’ there’s a legal entity which is unfortunately called by the same name but which is quite another thing. This is a nonprofit corporation, a branch of the state with a specific address. It owns property, is capable of paying salaries, of receiving money and of responding to legislative pressures in the process.

      But this second university, the legal corporation, cannot teach, does not generate new knowledge or evaluate ideas. It is not the real University at all. It is just a church building, the setting, the location at which conditions have been made favorable for the real church to exist.”

      ― Robert Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

  5. I think it is a bit arrogant of these people to tell me what I should be “pissed off” about in such a peremptory manner.

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