We Need More Teachers!

by Matt HurtChris Braunlich (Bait and Switch: Reform Reverts to Mo’ Money) brought up many good points about some bills that propose to increase teacher salaries. However, it seems necessary to add some additional context to help flesh out this conversation/debate. It appears that many don’t fully understand the gravity of the situation.On paper, the teacher vacancy rates seems to have stabilized from 2023 to 2024 rather than increasing as they had in years prior. The data below were obtained from the Staffing and Vacancy Report Build-A-Table on the VDOE website, the dataset for which only dates back to 2022.

Table 2 below reports the teacher vacancy rates by position for the 2023-2024 school year. What is interesting about these numbers is the fact that Title I has the highest vacancy rate. Most Title I schools are elementary schools, so it is reasonable to assume that staffing for general classroom positions is prioritized over Title I positions. Given that elementary teaching positions have the third highest vacancy rate, it seems also reasonable to assume that the vacancy problem most negatively affects elementary schools. This seems very counterintuitive because years ago there was a line around the corner of fully licensed prospective teachers for every elementary position.

Unfortunately, these numbers don’t accurately reflect the entire problem. The vacancy data simply report the number of open positions that do not have a licensed person in place. These numbers do not differentiate between fully licensed and provisionally licensed teachers. Anecdotally, I hear colleagues talking about the fact that more and more new teachers haven’t gone through the traditional teacher preparation programs (which lead to full licensure), and they feel that this has detrimental effects on our students’ learning. JLARC reported in 2022 (page 9) that the percentage of fully licensed teachers dropped from 94% in 2013 to 84% in 2023.

Also, many divisions across the state are trying to fill positions by contracting with companies who hire and bring over teachers from foreign countries. These positions are filled on a temporary basis due to visa requirements. Foreign teachers face a significant culture shock as students and parents in our country do not have the same respect for teachers as they are accustomed to in their home countries. Teaching positions filled by these temporary teachers are also considered filled and do not count in the vacancy rate numbers.

In conclusion, I agree with Chris’s position that across-the-board pay raises won’t fix all of Virginia’s educational woes. It won’t ensure that traditionally hard-to-staff schools will be fully staffed. It won’t by itself ensure that students will become more proficient. However, increasing teacher salaries across the board will entice more folks into the teaching field through traditional programs which yield full licensure, which is desperately needed. Virginia students deserve teachers who want to be in the profession enough to enter through teacher preparation programs. We cannot continue to fail to address teacher shortages and hope that this problem will fix itself. The only way that we can entice more folks into the field is by making teaching jobs more competitive from a compensation standpoint. How we accomplish that is well above my pay grade.

Matt Hurt is the  director of the  Comprehensive Instructional Program, based in Wise, Virginia. 


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37 responses to “We Need More Teachers!”

  1. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    One thing I agreed with , with (Bait and Switch: Reform Reverts to Mo’ Money) was to give higher pay for positions not getting filled and for certain skillsets that are oriented to economically disadvantaged, learning-disabled and ESL students.

    I would also agree with specific accountability for those positions in ways that a low performing principal could not use to scapegoat good teachers for his/her school failures.

    1. Kathleen Smith Avatar
      Kathleen Smith

      Has anyone studied if the teacher vacancies and lack of teachers entering the field is related to accountability policies?

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        I’d actually support Charter Schools that were specifically dedicated to the kids are behind – with higher paid specialists with accountability.

      2. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        Would accountability scare would-be specialists away?

  2. Kathleen Smith Avatar
    Kathleen Smith

    JLARC reported in 2022 (page 9) that the percentage of fully licensed teachers dropped from 94% in 2013 to 84% in 2023.

    Herein lies the problem! We need to entice teachers to the classroom from college.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Nobody is making “Goodbye Mr. Chips” or “Our Miss Brooks” anymore. The profession is not celebrated, its practitioners not respected. I haven’t seen “The Holdovers” but perhaps it is a recent story that holds up teachers as great folks.

      1. As long as the Governor, Lt Gov, Atty General, and every member of the State Republicon Party openly accuses teachers of “grooming children” why would anyone want to teach?

        The spokeswoman for Florida’s Republican governor tweeted in early March that anyone who opposes a bill forbidding teachers from talking about gender identity or sexual orientation with students in early grades is “probably a groomer or at least you don’t denounce the grooming of 4-8 year old children.” A few days later, Fox News host Laura Ingraham asked on national television, “When did our public schools, any schools, become what are essentially grooming centers for gender identity radicals?”

        And, speaking before the Tennessee House of Representatives in February, country music star John Rich compared librarians who allow children access to graphic books to sexual predators — adding he believes that there is “bona fide grooming taking place” in the state’s public schools.

        “What’s the difference between a teacher, educator or librarian … or a guy in a white van pulling up at the edge of school when school lets out?” he asked. Students “can run away from the guy in the white van.”
        https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/04/05/teachers-groomers-pedophiles-dont-say-gay/

        Then, there’s this from “Young America Foundation”, a radical rightwing Republicon sark money group.

        Fairfax County Public Schools, which serves more than 178,000 students enrolled in kindergarten through twelfth grade, is strategizing ways to continue grooming children into compliance with the Left’s LGBTQ+ agenda — despite new parental rights and student protection policies instituted by Governor Glenn Youngkin’s Department of Education this week.

  3. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    I disagree with Mr. Hurt on a number of things. You want to hire more teachers? You want me back?
    1. Return the concept of authority to the classroom teacher.
    2. Adopt clear school rules with measures of enforcement and real consequences for infractions.
    3. Adopt higher standards. Dump the 50% F floor, get rid of allowing students to retake tests as many times as they want, bring back graded homework, raise the grading scale from 60% to 70%, zero tolerance for weapons, narcotics, alcohol, and vaping.
    4. Extend the school year calendar from 180 days to 200 days so we can actually get the job done.
    5. RIF not the teacher but the bean counters and educrats that are standing in the way of progress.
    6. Find a coffin for DEI.
    7. Downsize the bureaucratic load placed on teachers like a retiree heading to Florida.
    8. Turnoff all social media and cell phones statewide in every school. Kids and teachers.
    9. No continuing contracts. If you are any good you get to come back next year.
    10. No more crooked administrators and superintendents. Petty politics and virtue signaling not allowed.

    I could keep going but I will stop at 10. And money is not on my list.

    1. Amphibium Avatar
      Amphibium

      In a couple years I plan to be one of those “provisional” licensure teachers and everything on this list except #4 is what I’m dreading. I have passed all but one PRAXIS and will be enrolling in a Career Switchers program this fall. Teaching will be a second career and if it does not work out, plenty of options still exist.

    2. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      Wow. Interesting list. A Fairfax County middle school history teacher I know works at a golf course where I play on the weekends. His shift ends just as my standing foursome and I usually finish. He joins us at the 19th hole.

      From what he tells us, I think he would agree with your list wholeheartedly.

    3. Matt Hurt Avatar
      Matt Hurt

      I’m not so sure we disagree. I think the things you mentioned cause some folks to rethink their career decisions. My premise is that more lucrative compensation will bring more folks into the field. Once they get there, it’s up to their leadership to convince them it’s worth staying.

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        You could pay me six figures. And under current conditions I would turn the offer down. Nobody is going to the classroom for the bread. Meet my list of reasonable demands and I am back in and I’m not looking for a raise or a onetime signing bonus either. A pay raise might temporarily entice but it will not retain the educators needed.

        1. Matt Hurt Avatar
          Matt Hurt

          I agree. Increased salaries will help to get more in the door. Once there, leadership must make conditions commensurate with keeping them there. Teacher recruitment and retention are two different things, and must be approached accordingly.

  4. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    I would like to see a discussion by Matt of who gets provisional licenses. Are they really “detrimental” to students’ learning or are the existing teachers mad because they had to go through a teacher preparation program, much of which is marginally useful, and the provisionally-licensed teachers did not?

    1. Matt Hurt Avatar
      Matt Hurt

      This is reported to me by some administrators. I have examples of provisionally certified teachers coming into their first year and knocking it out of the park with regards student outcomes, specifically with high at-risk student populations. On the other hand, I also have examples of teachers who have been fully licensed for many years who have yet to produce acceptable outcomes.

      Unfortunately no teacher preparation program that I am aware of is designed based on the best practices of highly successful teachers of at-risk students. They’re often a hodge-podge of state and SACs requirements. I do believe that on average, someone who has gone through the training, the classroom observation/participation experiences, and the student teaching experience likely has a better shot at success out of the gate than someone who hasn’t. Some of our provisionally licensed teachers haven’t darkened the doorstep of a public school since they graduated high school.

    2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
      James Wyatt Whitehead

      I can appreciate the resentment licensed teachers that jumped the endless hoops to get the job. I have found that at Randolph Macon Academy most of the staff have a college degree but very few are licensed by the state. I think very highly of my daughter’s teachers. Licensing would not help them in any significant way.

    3. Matt Hurt Avatar
      Matt Hurt

      This is reported to me by some administrators. I have examples of provisionally certified teachers coming into their first year and knocking it out of the park with regards student outcomes, specifically with high at-risk student populations. On the other hand, I also have examples of teachers who have been fully licensed for many years who have yet to produce acceptable outcomes.

      Unfortunately no teacher preparation program that I am aware of is designed based on the best practices of highly successful teachers of at-risk students. They’re often a hodge-podge of state and SACs requirements. I do believe that on average, someone who has gone through the training, the classroom observation/participation experiences, and the student teaching experience likely has a better shot at success out of the gate than someone who hasn’t. Some of our provisionally licensed teachers haven’t darkened the doorstep of a public school since they graduated high school.

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        ” I do believe that on average, someone who has gone through the training, the classroom observation/participation experiences, and the student teaching experience likely has a better shot at success”

        Exactly! If a candidate is fortunate enough to have a first rate cooperating teacher and meaningful student teaching experience they are going to make it for at least the first 3 to 5 years.

        The rest of the requirements are just as you stated. Fulfilling the SACS accreditation and whims of our politicians.

  5. DJRippert Avatar
    DJRippert

    Didn’t I see a recent blog on this site that claimed enrollment in Virginia public schools was decreasing? If so, won’t the decrease take some of the pressure off the teacher shortage?

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      You mean the ones who stopped attending school and nothing done for truancy?

      1. WayneS Avatar

        Truant students still show up in enrollment numbers.

      2. WayneS Avatar

        Truant students still show up in enrollment numbers.

        1. Matt Hurt Avatar
          Matt Hurt

          After fifteen days they’re dropped from the roll and are no longer registered.

    2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
      James Wyatt Whitehead

      Peak enrollment is projected for 2030 and then a steady decline afterwards.

  6. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
    f/k/a_tmtfairfax

    Just like in the real world, more money should be paid for positions that are hard to fill. Teachers generally should be better paid but they should also be held to higher standards. New teachers need some time to become proficient, but it also should be relatively easy to remove those who at any stage of their career don’t perform.

    Pay for non-teaching staff, most especially in regional or central office staff, should be limited and less than high-performing teachers. There should not be an economic incentive for a good teacher to move to administrative staff.

    1. killerhertz Avatar
      killerhertz

      Why would you want a teacher to be an admin? Administrators should be people with experience running a real business. That’s why we have these education phds in charge of mult-million dollar budgets that can’t effectively save the taxpayer money and deliver good outcomes.

      1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
        f/k/a_tmtfairfax

        You didn’t read my comment correctly. I wrote that there should not be an economic incentive for a good teacher to move to an administrative position. Good teachers should make more money than the typical staff bureaucrat.

  7. Fred Costello Avatar
    Fred Costello

    Many years ago, I had many excellent K-12 teachers. None were licensed. Recently, a retired engineering friend wanted to teach high school but the requirements were too extensive. They were designed for new college graduates.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      Teaching is two things. Content knowledge and the skill of teaching itself. Having content knowledge is not evidence of a “good” teacher.

  8. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    I am so proud of my wife’s accomplishments, as I think she knows. She considers it a career of great value, and I’m glad she is now enjoying a comfortable retirement with our combined financial assets. She is still in the schools as a volunteer tutor, and I don’t think she is recommending the life anymore.

    1. WayneS Avatar

      …and I don’t think she is recommending the life anymore.

      That, my friend, is a shame – but not too surprising given the non-instruction-related chaos which has been allowed to fester in our public school systems.

      1. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        Being of “a certain age,” she was guided into teaching by parents and advisers who didn’t foresee how many opportunities for bright women were on the near horizon. But now the competition for that talent is fierce, as it should be. Our daughter has three medical-related degrees already.

        1. WayneS Avatar

          Amen to that.

    2. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      In many counties including higher population counties, the school are the biggest employers. And though there is a shortage and “provisional”, and “low” pay, they still employ large numbers of people who are career teachers. The pay, low for teachers, is still much higher than many local occupations on par with health care professionals.

      In your own county:

      MAJOR EMPLOYERS
      Company Industry Estimated Employees

      Bon Secours Richmond Healthcare 8,416

      Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield Healthcare and Insurance 2,655

      Markel (headquarters) Insurance and Investment 1,886

      T-Mobile USA Telecommunications 1,316

      Pharmaceutical Product Development Drug Research and Development 1,200

      Genworth Financial (headquarters) Insurance 850

      and 3500 instructional professionals.

  9. killerhertz Avatar
    killerhertz

    The problems will never be fixed until education is driven by the free market. Stop funding/trying-to-fix the government schools and this problem will go away like every other industry/profession. It’s not that hard.

    1. Gordon McKinley Avatar
      Gordon McKinley

      I agree. I went to school where all teachers had at least a masters in their field, not a masters of Ed.
      The pay was not as great as public school , they were there because they knew the kids all wanted to learn…or at least they thought they wanted to learn.

  10. Our current school system is in a shambles. We are either going to need to pay our teachers much more money to deal with the dysfunctional system we have in place or we are going to have to remove the dysfunction from the system. There is a rot within our current educational structure that must be addressed The children are much more in control than they should be. To make matters worse they know they’re in control. Teachers are left on an island unsupported by their administration or the parents. If “It takes a village to raise a child” what happens when the village abandons their role in the process? I’m not sure that money is the answer if the rot within the system is allowed to persist. Countries around the world are doing more for their students with much less resources. I would suggest we revisit the fundamental notion of what is the purpose of our schools. Once we have decided what that purpose is maybe we should evaluate the system we have against this stated purpose to see how it is failing the children it is tasked with serving.

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