VMPI Would Eliminate Tracked Courses

No, despite the uncanny similarity, that is not a senior VDOE official. That’s a weasel, commonly found along the James River.

by James A. Bacon

Yes, Virginia, it looks like the Virginia Mathematics Pathway Initiative (VMPI) does seek to do away with “tracked” courses in which quicker and slower learners attend separate classes geared to their abilities. Gifted students would be given “extension topics” that would allow them to explore concepts that would not otherwise be covered in the one-size-fits-all math curriculum.

While insisting that VMPI still will allow “accelerated courses,” which have a different meaning from “tracked classes,” James Lane and the Virginia Department of Education (VDOE) officials have studiously avoided telling the public how the initiative would do away with tracked courses. Reporters who regurgitated Lane’s rhetoric during a press conference earlier this week were too dim-witted to ask him what he meant by “accelerated.”

Now comes a document of “School Board Talking Points,” dated April 26, under the masthead of Fairfax County Public Schools. I am told that it was distributed to every math department in the school system. Here is the smoking gun:

The proposed design provides students a path to explore mathematics in a way that meets their needs without having to take a different course than their grade-level peers.

The resources provided by VDOE would include specific extension topics to allow students opportunities to delve deeper into the concepts that they are learning or to extending their learning into concepts that would not typically be covered in the mathematics curriculum.

According to the Talking Points memo, “VMPI is a proposal to update Virginia’s mathematics curriculum in grades K-12 to address the persistent achievement gaps that exist in math learning outcomes.” It goes on to cite the 24-point achievement gap between Asian students and Black students in Standards of Learning pass rates, with Whites, Hispanics and economically disadvantaged students at various points in between.

As a result of this gap, “students of color are disproportionately represented in Virginia community college remedial mathematics courses,” the memo says. It goes on to note that research studies have shown that replacing traditional mathematics sequences — Algebra I, Geometry, Algebra II — with an integrated approach “can improve outcomes for students.” The memo cites anti-tracking research documents referenced on the VDOE’s new Math Pathways web page. That page, edited after Northern Virginia parents erupted in protest, now disavows the research. Yet, strangely, despite the disavowal, VDOE did not remove the links.

(For background, see my detailed reporting here.)

Bacon’s bottom line: The Northam administration has not been honest with Virginians about the “tracked” classes. I won’t say Lane lied because he never specifically stated that “tracked” classes would no longer be allowed. And when I repeatedly queried VDOE spokesman Charles Pyle, he simply declined to answer my direct questions. However, it can be said that Lane deceived the public in his press conference by stating emphatically, “We are not eliminating accelerated courses. We are not reducing the rigor of our courses. … We’re not eliminating any pathways to calculus,” while never mentioning what, oh, yeah, VMPI would dump tracked classes and VDOE would provide the resources for the “extension topics.”

Once again, the mainstream media failed in its job. All too happy to put to rest a narrative promoted by Fox News and Republican politicians, reporters failed to probe Lane’s weasel wording. Maybe it’s time for Fox News and the Republican candidates for governor to renew the outcry.

Update: Looks like The Virginia Mercury bit Lane’s story hook, line and sinker in this weekend re-cap of the controversy. What a shame. I expected better.


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64 responses to “VMPI Would Eliminate Tracked Courses”

  1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    Qarni, Lane, Pyle and all of the VDOE lieutenants know exactly what they are doing. I can tell you from experience that teaching two different levels of a subject at the same time in one class is next to impossible. Do not buy into the notion that advanced students can be given “a path to explore to meet needs.” VMPI is going to create serious classroom management and discipline issues. The Algebra II and Pre Calculus teacher is not used to working with the “sweathogs”. They do not have the people skills to deal with that. Just a plain and simple fact. You can’t mix worlds like this and expect results. VMPI doesn’t want real achievement. The intention is to close the 24 point gap by holding back the top achievers. How sinister, insidious and beyond deceptive.

    1. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      “The intention is to close the 24 point gap by holding back the top achievers.”

      You’ve got it. Like the lottery for Thomas Jefferson.

      This is fast becoming a page in the liberal playbook … fail to provide effective government services despite endlessly rising taxes and then break the measurement system so the deficiencies can’t be seen.

      Insidious, deceptive and utterly disgraceful.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        re: ” “The intention is to close the 24 point gap by holding back the top achievers.”

        totally bogus and really a disreputable wedge issue.

        Folks should be ashamed by claiming that advanced kids really come at the expense of the lower kids and the “reforms” is to claw back something for the lower kids.

        Public Education does not work that way and I’m surprised that James is saying this but not surprised that DJ is…

        Virginia’s problem is the lower kids – the ones that are 20 points down and don’t have the necessary education to compete for 21st century jobs – and you guys are making them the enemy.

        shame on you.

        1. DJRippert Avatar
          DJRippert

          Larry the Liberal … just yesterday you were defending this as a “tweak”. As usual, you showed no critical thinking about what was going on preferring to metaphorically stick you head up Lane’s butt and accept his weasel worded explanation. Now this same proposed policy is some kind of miraculous leap of social engineering that will magically ensure equity. Given that you have been utterly unable to understand this so far I see no reason to engage as you stumble into your next, new and different set of illogical and false statements.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            DJ the Trumpster! I’m not defending Tweaks. I’m saying that VDOE has, for years, decades, been in the business of maintaining, changing and updating standards with clear success so why is it now a nefarious “plot”?

            Only with the card-carrying right wing is this now the case.

            A mountain out of a molehill but it’s what Conservatives do these days.

            They’re so desperate for wedge issues, they’ll do almost anything – including just flat misrepresenting issues.

            THe VDOE thing is not a genuine comspiracy theory – no?

            Some of you guys are certifiable LOONS!

    2. Rob Austin Avatar
      Rob Austin

      They call it “equity,” equal outcomes. Whatever dumbing down or moving goalposts they have to do to obtain it, they will do, and then virtue-signal when/if the results fit the agenda, completely sweeping under the rug the real harms inherent in the plan which were plain to see from the outset.

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        Mr. Austin this must be stopped. VMPI must die a painful death. That 24 point gap can be closed. It must be done with honest thinking and deliberate action.

    3. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      tracking is not the same as grouping for a given class.

      Tracking is locking kid into a curriculum track from which he/she cannot easily escape.

      If works fine if the kid starts out advanced but it’s terrible for a kid that starts out low – but can and does improve and it’s especially harmful if he/she is in a school where they just don’t have the more challenging tracks.

      The real world data on results is clear. How in the world can there be such a disparity for some demographics?

      This is really not about advanced tracks. Those options will always be available to kids of advanced skills – for instance, many schools offer dual-enrollment with local community colleges.

      This is about improving the options available to kids who are not advanced.

      There is no excuse to opposing this under the guise that it will take away from advanced kids. That is just more bogus narratives from people who really don’t support public education for ALL kids, anyhow.

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        Mr. Larry I tried to keep on open mind about this and explored VMPI. I admire the goals but the methods are unacceptable. What Mr. Bacon, Captain Sherlock, and others have revealed leaves me no choice but to oppose. All hands on deck oppose. VMPI must be stopped.

      2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        Mr. Larry you are correct about tracking. But holding back the top achievers just to make some number look better serves the interests of NO ONE. You and I are on the same page about the problem. We are in different chapters on the path to solve that problem. You have heard me say it before. Reduce class sizes. Retain under performers. Accelerate those who can handle the stress of advanced math.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          James – what exactly are you opposing?

          I just don’t see it as a zero sum proposition.

          They can address the problem with the lower performers without taking away the paths for the upper performers.

      3. “This is about improving the options available to kids who are not advanced.”

        How will this plan do that without also negatively affecting advanced students? Please be specific.

        I’d really like to know. You can accuse me of lying, acting disingenuously or making bogus arguments all you want, but it appears to me that under the proposed plan advanced kids will be in the same math classes as all the other students. In fact, they actually say that is the goal:

        “The proposed design provides students a path to explore mathematics in a way that meets their needs without having to take a different course than their grade-level peers.” (emphasis mine)

        And these will not just be 8th grade and up, it will affect math classes for 3rd – 7th graders, where dual enrollment in community college is not an option for the advanced students.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          I’ve accused you of lying, acting disingenuously or making bogus arguments … when?

          Here’s the question. What do you ACTUALLY KNOW about the current and proposed ?

          Why would you believe what the right-wing media and critics are claiming without specific info?

          Without knowing, why would you say that it’s MY responsibility to say what is or is not?

          We have folks making claims about motives and actions which are just bald assertions without any real information to support it.

          Worst of all, portraying it as a zero sume game where advanced kids lose if something is done to help the lower level kids – is just plain wrong but don’t let that bother those critics playing that game.

          VDOE has – over the years – made changes to Math (and other subjects). They’ve always done it to improve education and if you look at NAEP results, Virginia has done well under VDOE so where is the criticism coming from? Mostly right wingers, no?

          1. “We have folks making claims about motives and actions which are just bald assertions without any real information to support it.”

            I know you will adamantly deny this, Larry, but you do this exact thing on a regular basis.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            If I do, then call me on it when I do it… I do not claim to be perfect by a long shot but when you read these blog posts – it’s wretched.

          3. I did not say anything is your responsibility, but since you appear to know a great deal about what the proposal will and will not do I thought, obviously erroneously, that you might be willing to elucidate some of its positive aspects. Once again, though, you have deflected and denigrated instead of answering a question.

          4. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            No. I do not KNOW precisely what VDOE is doing but neither do the rest here – who are basically making wild claims that are simply just not true.

            I TRUST VDOE – because they have been doing this for a long time and Virginia does rank high compared to other states but we DO have a problem in the lower level kids.

            How we address it is NOT a zero sum game as proffered by the critics.

        2. DJRippert Avatar
          DJRippert

          He can’t be specific because he’s incapable of understanding this issue. He can’t even produce a simple list of the courses an “accelerated” student would take under Math Path. Larry prefers to mindlessly kiss the rings of Virginia’s liberal politicians without an iota of critical thinking.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            I can’t be specific and NEITHER can you – except to claim it’s a zero sum proposition.

            You critics, just tear down.

            You really have no answers other than to blame parents, and teachers and VDOE.

            Ya’ll have no answers other than status quo.

            You really don’t seem to care if the deficits in the lower levels continues… as long as your higher rated folks are okay.

            so much for the purpose of public education, eh?

          2. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            THE “issue” is pretty simple. While we have a good path for advanced kids, the path we have for less advanced is not as good – less good than many other developed countries.

            How to fix it? I am not an education professional but I think VDOE is and I trust them to work the issue – as they have for some time already with some success for advanced but not as well with less advanced.

            It’s not about “liberals” unless one thinks that the other developed countries that do better than us are “liberals”.

            Some of us seem to prefer demonizing people, agencies, goverrnment, and governors… as if none of them can improve the issue. I just remind folks that 25 other countries – people , agencies, government and leaders HAVE SUCCESSFULLY done it and we can too.

            We sure as hell won’t fix it by getting rid of VDOE…. which is why, I say , once again- this is why Conservtatives are unfit to deal with real world issues. They got their ideology for sure – but when it comes to dealing with realities they prefer to blame liberals instead of actually doing something productive.

  2. DJRippert Avatar
    DJRippert

    So, Fright Train Lane and Gomer Pyle have been plotting to deceive. No surprise from within the “I was in the yearbook photo until I wasn’t” Northam Administration.

    Where was Virginia’s so-called media on this? Where is long time teacher Kirk Cox?

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      I’d actually like to hear from Cox on this. What is his view with regard to kids lower down on the totem pole?

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        I like what candidate Peter Doran is proposing. Fund students instead of school systems. Hand $12,000 grand per kid over to mom/dad. Let them choose if they want to spend on public, private, distance learning, or homeschool. That will get the attention of the jelly heads in Richmond.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          That may be but it’s totally out of the realm of VDOE and more so in an election …. and I seriously doubt you’re gonna get a serious/viable GOP candidate that is going to successfully run on that.

          I bet $10 that Kirk Cox does not sign on to this.

          1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            I know a lot of blue and red parents that would jump all in with Peter Doran’s idea.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            But many more would not and especially so those paying taxes for public schools and having that money given to others for private schooling.

            Also when we talk about testing and accountability – it’s ironic that Virginia schools report their academic results – by law – even when they are terrible and the public rightly is upset but private schools not only would be taking tax money but no such accountability.

            That kind of thinking will not get one elected IMHO.

            But I’ll make a counter offer.

            If the private schools have the same required level of transparency.

            And for accountability – it the child fails, they give the money back.

            Guess how many kids would fail then?

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  3. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    Yes, they know what they are doing but now so do we. This will be an excellent discussion for the campaign. In technical terms it is a wedge issue, because plenty of normally Democratic voters will not like this, either. The Republicans need to go right into the minority community and say: Unlike Democrats, we think your kids actually CAN learn. The Democrats don’t.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      well.. it’s the usual BOGUS wedge issue the GOP seems to like to wallow in…

      The minority community KNOWs the GOP – it’s a pretty flimsy and transparent wolf in sheeps clothing if you ask me….

      1. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        Yeah, you speak for them….

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          I speak for them a LOT BETTER than right wingers talking about it for sure.

          It’s laughable listening to Conservatives talk about how minorities think and at when they clearly are in LA LA LAND.

          No wonder they can’t get the votes!

      2. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        And Biden’s coming to take your dead cows!

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          It’s kinda hilarious. The Conservatives blather out messages – essentially to each other as to how minorities will receive them without talking to minorities about it.

          Geezy Peezy… no wonder the GOP is a mess!

    2. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      We KNOW their kids can learn. It’s yours we’re not sure of…

      “Republicans remain the group most likely to say that they will not try to get a vaccine. Almost half of Republicans, 44%, feel that way, compared with 28% of independents and 8% of Democrats.”

      https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/29/politics/cnn-poll-covid-vaccines/index.html

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        and they are the ones to educate the little ones… GAWD

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Home schooling — still the best way to assure your kids won’t know more than you.

      2. So you’re reduced to trusting CNN polls, now? Oh how the mighty have fallen.

        Keep it up and I’m going to lobby the power-that-be (whomever the hell they are) to have your cynicism merit badge revoked.

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        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          You need more POLLS?

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            I prefer Czechs.

            What’s an abortion in Prague? A cancelled Czech.

            What’s a circumcision in Copenhagen? A pruned Danish.

        2. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Wait! But, but, survival of the fittest is cynical, isn’t it? After all, I’ve seen you use the term “Darwin Award”.

      3. DJRippert Avatar
        DJRippert

        Those Republicans probably won’t have their kids in fast track math.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          Oh this is RICH! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    3. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      The GOP is going to telling minorities that efforts to help their kids with more/better math is a no go because it takes away from the advanced kids?

      This is the winning wedge issue message?

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      1. DJRippert Avatar
        DJRippert

        I guess Asians aren’t “minorities” in your utterly warped view of the world.

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Depends on their variance.

        2. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          They clearly are but have you considered Asians that are low income? I bet not. How do they fare? Don’t care, right?

        3. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          It’s even more comical with Asians. Who do you think the Asians trust more for their interests? Dem or GOP?

        4. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          Conservatives are really pathetic nowadays. They claim that Dem are not looking out for them – while at the same time Asians are being attacked and hardly a word about it from Conservatives except to say the blacks are committing some attacks.

          That’s the Conservative “answer” to attacks on Asians. But,heckfire…it’s the liberals..

          yep.

  4. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Did it ever occur to y’all that the intention is 100% of students taking and passing Calculus? Your myopia is astounding.

    1. It occurred to me – and I rejected it as highly unlikely.

    2. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      Completely ridiculous and not at all the intent. Once again, you are making things up to excuse your complete misunderstanding of this matter to date.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Well, it’s not ridiculous. It ACTUALLY could be done.

    3. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      15% of high school students take calculus today. One assumes the vast majority of that 15% were fast path students. Dumbing down the curriculum will somehow allow the other 85% to take calculus.

      I can only marvel at liberal “logic”.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        Are you “dumbing down” when the US ranks 26th in math? What does that actually mean if the US (and Virginia) rank lower than most of the developed world on math for MOST KIDS?

        DO you know? Care?

      2. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        No one is “dumbing” down. They’re trying to make changes that will help the kids who are not getting sufficient education. Do you guys just refuse to deal with the realities?

        It’s not about “Calculus”. It’s about educating children so they can enter the workforce with sufficient skills to compete and get a job where they can support themselves and their families.

        Why are you guys so bound and determined to make that goal a wrong thing?

      3. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        “Dumbing down the curriculum will somehow allow the other 85% to take calculus.” Statement, or was that intended as a question?

        Calculus is a pretty low bar to set as the exemplary. Also, requirements — If it’s not required, many will opt not to take it.

        Your assumption of dumbing down the curriculum runs counter to empirical data and is an illogical conclusion. Students can be driven to perform.

  5. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    I just find it fascinatin’ that y’all are salivating over finding a wedge issue. Sittin’ on the branch sawing away with all expectations the tree will fall.

  6. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    “Tracking” is exceptionally harmful to students that are not advanced if it locks them in to a low level academic track.

    This is not Northam or VDOE – it’s in the research and studies and It’s obvious in the academic performance of lower level kids AND most important – these are kids that grow up and have to compete for jobs in the 21st economy.

    It’s just plain downright ignorant to assert that tracking and access to advanced courses is the same much less claim that those saying that are “lying”.

    Conservatives are going off the rails here. For decades, VDOE has paid attention to how education “works” and has made changes – for the better – the results of their efforts are clearly seen in Virginia’s superior NAEP rankings.

    But NOW, with the way Conservatives have been working of late. it’s like VDOE never actually existed until now, and NOW, it’s bad.

    Here’s a historical overview of VDOE and trends and changes in Virginia education.

    Those who can’t seem to inform themselves – ought to take a look:

    Historical Overview of the Standards of Learning Program

    https://www.doe.virginia.gov/boe/reports/annual_reports/2013_appendix_a_sol_history.pdf

    This is WHY – conservatives are unfit to govern. They clearly don’t understand public education and over time have shown their opposition to it.

    1. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      You’re really off the deep end. You and your fellow liberal commenters have been wrong about this since the first article appeared in BR about VMPI. It was claimed to be a “rebranding”, a “tweak”, just using different names for the same classes.

      Bullshit.

      It is a major restructuring of a math curriculum that has been (and is) working well. As you yourself have pointed out, Virginia ranks 4th in measures of math effectiveness among the 50 states.

      Please see James Whitehead’s comment below …

      “I can tell you from experience that teaching two different levels of a subject at the same time in one class is next to impossible.”

      That’s a teacher with decades of experience writing.

      The higher aptitude math students will get dumbed down by this. Period. And the average aptitude students will do no better.

    2. “”Tracking” is exceptionally harmful to students that are not advanced if it locks them in to a low level academic track.”

      What if it doesn’t lock them in? What if a student can move to a more advanced “track” once he makes sufficient progress, or as with my son, the “switch” kicks on and he finally understands the mathematical concepts appropriate for his grade level? Do you not trust our educators to recognize when a student has made sufficient progress and move him to a more advanced “track” when appropriate?

    3. How about this basic info for 2018-19

      3rd grade SOLs:
      Reading Pass 66,211 FAIL 27,627
      Math …..Pass 77,543 FAIL 16,584

      29% of 3rd graders can’t read at grade level
      17.6% can’t do third grade math.

      8th grade SOLs
      Reading Pass 71,545 FAIL 22,686
      Math …..Pass 56,006 FAIL 17,346

      24% of 8th graders can’t read at grade level
      23.6% can’t do 8th grade math.

      What’s harmful, Larry, is not concentrating on helping more children acquire 3rd grade skills. Everything in school requires that for them to be successful in school later. Pretending to equalize conditions by bringing them down to a lower level in high school doesn’t change the failure of VDOE to provide an adequate education in the early years.

      1. DJRippert Avatar
        DJRippert

        “What’s harmful, Larry, is not concentrating on helping more children acquire 3rd grade skills.”

        True. But the liberals who spent the last 20 years telling people they needed more money, more money, more money to fix the problem now realize that have failed, even with the more money.

        So, they erase the markings on the yardstick and call an inch a foot.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          No markings are erased. That’s just more deflection. You may or may not need more money. The proposed changes may work without more money but at any rate what’s your answer? Just don’t do anything and let them continue to go into the workforce without required skills?

          This is why Conservatives are unfit to govern.

          They simply can’t deal with the realities.

      2. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        And THIS is what this change is actually about Carol.

        Think about the fact that Virginia ranks HIGH compared to other states but we have a big gap in the regular kids.

        We RANK better than most of the other states!

        How can We rank so high and still have these deficits?

        This is exactly what VDOE is trying to address and the boo birds are making it a zero-sum game between the high performers and the lower kids.

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