Virginia’s Modern Day “Know Nothings”
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19 responses to “Virginia’s Modern Day “Know Nothings””
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We can learn a lot from the past.
Why not take the concept of the Statue of Liberty/Ellis Island and all it stands for and create the same thing on our Southern border….with a 21st century twist?
Rather than grant all out citizenship the border crossing could be a place where guest workers enter the country legally.
They would/should be required to get photographed, finger printed, tested for diseases, and obtain documents and identification that allow them to work legally in the U.S. so they become tax-paying members of the economy.
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Makes sense to me.
When it takes years and years to get (or not get, even) a guest wrker visa, then you cannot very well expect people to obey the law.
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"It's hard to fathom this hatred of the foreign-born."
Maybe it's hard to fathom because there is no "hatred" of the foreign born. Maybe "hatred" is another one of those bogey-man, there-is-a-racist-under-bed canards of the left. If "hatred" exists, it is liberals hating those whom they accuse of hatred.
Is there frustration, concern and alarm about the vast population of illegal aliens in this country and the social and fiscal problesm they create? Of course.
But, Peter, you have never shown one iota of evidence that negative feelings extend to the "foreign-born" who live in this country *legally*. Indeed, I would submit that the vast majority of foreign-born who live in this country legally feel very welcome here.
One of the things I love about liberals is how they they point to the example of the oh-so-enlightened European countries for their policies regarding health care and other social security programs. But liberals invariably fall silent when it comes to European policies on immigration. There is no advanced country on the face of the planet that permits unrestricted immigration into their nation! Most European countries (and descendents of European countries like Australia, New Zealand, etc.) have much stricter policies than the U.S. regarding both the control of their borders and control over whom they will admit legally into their countries.
Are they all ignorant, hate-filled no-nothings as well?
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The double standard that liberals use on illegal immigration is quite outrageous. Essentially, most liberals want open boarders so that they can maintain and expand social programs that keep the professional caring class employed (people with advanced degrees, many who work for government agencies and nonprofits). And, of course, they want amnesty for more voters.
Why is the U.S.'s immigration policy racist, when the must stricter Mexican immigration policy is not?
Enforce the laws. Cracking down on employers will reduce the attractiveness for those outside the country and create economic pressure for those already here. Attrition works.
TMT
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"why is there suddenly such a big need for a statewide push against immigrants here illegally?"
Maybe because the Fed numbers are garbage?
http://www.borderinvasionpics.com/Invasion.html
One single trail, averaging 17 people a day or 6200 a year. This Year. 2010.
You are a reporter. Why not ask the website owners to provide the footage of all the people heading back into Mexico on this trail?
But that's not how it works is it? When they want to return to Mexico, they just drive through the border crossings because the border patrol doesn't check anything. That's Mexico's job. The US has no idea how many were illegally in the country.
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Bacon,
You are setting up straw men here and knocking them down while shouting "Liberal!, Liberal!" Ditto anonymous.
The word we want is "undocumented" not "illegal." Staying here over a visa deadline or entering without papers is a "civil" not a "criminal" violation. Big difference.
As for your canard about Europe, I never said I looked to Europe for immigration guidance. And, unlike you, I have actually lived in Europe for a few years.
So please don't put words in my mouth or attribute thoughts to me that aren't mine.Peter Galuszka
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Migration is a universal GOD given human right. As Jefferson would have said, “endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights…”
In fact, Jefferson complained that the King was interfering with migration! Quoting from the Declaration, “He has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither…”. Most people have never actually read that far into the document.
(Actual voting citizenship is another issue for another day, and requirements for that are perfectly legitimate.)
But the whole illegal undocumented debate is just another example of how socialism screws the world's working poor.
If we (or any country) did not have a social welfare state including free government run schools, free medical care, social security, etc., who could possibly care how many hard working poor people came here to work?
Europeans are more socialist, so of course they are more unwelcoming.
I frankly think the housing crisis is cosmic justice on us for becoming an unwelcoming country.
We have too many vacant houses. Why wouldn't we want hard working Central and South American Catholic families to come and rent or buy them?
There are so many warnings in the Bible about being kind to strangers in the land.
Here is Leviticus 19:33-34 (NIV):
"When an alien lives with you in your land, do not mistreat him. The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born. Love him as yourself, for you were aliens in Egypt. I am the LORD your God."
Got that – treat them as natives not illegals!
Bacon, there would be no fiscal problems without the socialism. You know socialism is theft. So those undocumented workers might bankrupt the socialist state sooner! Good! Then we might get our freedom back sooner.
Just a fed up Christian Protestant Conservative Republican too embarrassed by the nativist hysteria to want to use any labels anymore!
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"If we (or any country) did not have a social welfare state including free government run schools, free medical care, social security, etc., who could possibly care how many hard working poor people came here to work?"
And if the world turned in the other direction on its axis, we'd have California's climate. We need to deal with the country we have.
Importing poverty increases the cost of government and keeps down wages for those with lesser education and skills.
TMT
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Peter, Read first, then write. I did *not* say that you said you looked to Europe for immigration guidance. I said that liberals look to Europe for inspiration for health care policy but that they ignore European policy toward immigration and border protection — pretty much diametrically the opposite from what you thought I said.
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Bacon,
Huh? I am sorry but I am completely missing your point about Europe. I didn't say anything about Europe either in terms of health care or immigration.
Meanwhile, you faily utterly to respond to the major point of my piece — if the Pew Center reports that the levels of undocumented Hispanic immigrants, why is it necessary to follow Corey Stewart into an Arizona-style immigration law n Virginia.
You have a habit of avoiding the major point and throwing out little ones that sidetrack from the maintain issue.
There's a word for that: Obfuscation.
So, do you support Stewart's idea or not?Peter Galuszka
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Students from Eastern Europe flood the east coast every summer on a work visa program that allows hotels and tourist stuff to hire them at low wages. Most employers say they prefer the students over locals.
Funny thing happened this year. The students arrived, gained entry to the country based on an offer of employment, and then ended up eating in food kitchens and sleeping on the street because the employers didn't follow through with jobs.
It seems to me that if there are going to be laws, the first place to start is in the labor area. Followed by immigrant workers law. And then deportation law. The way things are now, we have none of that because there is no enforcement of the current regulations by the feds.
So we end up with illegal trash dumps in the desert, legal foreign students getting screwed, and state politicians manning the bulwark with blunderbuss legislation.
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A lot of rocks at empty pigeon holes here.
Observer
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The holes have pidgeons in them, at least in Fairfax County. Both the county and the school budget are significantly larger because of the need to provide expensive services to illegal immigrants and their families. TMT
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" Both the county and the school budget are significantly larger because of the need to provide expensive services to illegal immigrants and their families. TMT"
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The county gets its money from real estate and sales taxes. Where do illegal immigrants live and spend?
If the problem is that these services to immigrants (legal and illegal) are too expensive, maybe the County can lower its costs by hiring more immigrants to provide them and fewer unionized teachers with expensive theoretical and language degrees.
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" Importing poverty increases the cost of government and keeps down wages for those with lesser education and skills. "
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You are kidding yourself if you think that putting up a poverty trade barrier will make our government any cheaper.
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Observer,
I think you are off base with the pigeon thing. We are facing a new Jim Crow in Virgina. It may not fit neatly into elite theories on urban planning but it is an extremely important subject.Peter Galuszka
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"It's hard to fathom this hatred of the foreign-born."
Maybe it's hard to fathom because there is no "hatred" of the foreign born.
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I have had seeral people tell me this, here in Arizona. On an individual basis everyone seems to accept and work with the latinos like everyone else.
Yet they do see a COLLECTIVE problem, and this problem they do not like. Political activists then take this situation and use it to drum up artificial or media driven bigotry that does not actually exist on the personal level, for the most part.
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"…how socialism screws the world's working poor….."
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No doubt socialism screws the working poor, but the record of capitalism is not so hot in this regard, either.
What we are taliking about is a question of degree, not direction.
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Who benefits from the ruckus and fear kicked up over immigration? For private prison companies like Corrections Corporation of America, (CCA) that need prisoners to make money, legislation such as SB1070 would be a boon. CCA has close ties to Gov Brewer, having donated $1,780 to her campaign.
In Virginia, we have a Governor who is actively striving to privatize the liquor business. Perhaps prisons are next on his list.
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