By Peter Galuszka

You have to love Virginia politicians. One minute they are bashing the federal government and spending. The next, they’re screaming about cutbacks in defense spending. Talk about wanting it both ways.

One of the most profound contradictions  is the perpetual clash between the idea of skinflint budgets with that of keeping the military pumped up with bucks. After all, Virginia is chock-a-block with military and intelligence facilities of all kinds and is the No. 2 defense industry state after California.

This will make things interesting the night of Oct. 22 when President Obama and Gov. Mitt Romney face off in their last campaign debate with the topic being foreign policy. The curiosity is that Romney, who says he’s a fiscal conservative, is blasting Obama for not proposing enough military dollars.

Joining him in the attack is his vice presidential candidate, Paul Ryan, an original “Young Gun” who not too long ago was the Pied Piper of Budget Fanaticism. You may remember, 2010, the Tea Party and how we were driving off the fiscal cliff. (see “Boomergeddon,” 2010).

According to the New York Times, the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessment, a non-partisan group, says that Romney’s plan to gradually increase military budget increases to 4 percent of GDP would add $7.5 trillion to spending or $1.8 trillion more than Obama would.

For a look at where that spending would go, check out the $2 billion Virginia class attack submarines that are built jointly by Newport News Ship (20,000 jobs)  and General Dynamics Electric Boat  (20,000 jobs)  in New London, Ct. Obama wants to build the subs at a schedule of two a year while Romney wants three a year. Overall, Romney would increase naval shipbuilding to 15 a year with Obama favoring 9 or 10 a year.

To be sure, a lot of Navy ships are getting long in the tooth. The nuclear attack carrier Enterprise is finally heading off to the welders’ torches after something like six decades in service. It’s not certain what the Navy will really be able to do with carriers after the Nimitz class is over.

As for Virginia class subs, the latest, the USS Minnesota, will be christened later this week. Virginia class subs are supposed to be more in fitting with the post-Cold War. They can carry nuclear-tipped cruise missiles that can be used in strategic strikes but they also can carry Navy SEALs. They are not the same as Trident class subs that were designed to strike the Soviet Union.

In fact, the problem comes up over how many SEAL-carrying subs the U.S. needs. The current thinking seems to be that drones and specials forces are what’s needed, not F-22 Raptor fighters designed to intercept Soviet jets or F-35 attack aircraft. As for aircraft carriers, that’s a good question. They can operate as mobile airfields anywhere on the ocean, but their aircraft are limited in the Afghanistan war because they don’t have the fuel range. Thus, they don’t really have the legs their proponents claim.

Saving Virginia defense spending is something in which politicians of every stripe demand a role. Not too long ago, Democrats went to Republican Gov. Robert F. McDonnell to ask for his help in fighting back defense cuts. They are all terrified in the immediate $500 billion sequestration cuts that could cost from 100,000 to 200,000 Virginia jobs in January. This came up in the abortive debt ceiling deal a summer ago – the one in which House Majority Leader Eric Cantor played such a notorious role.

The military is a fact of life in Virginia but what is galling is how the Paul Ryans of the world play it both ways. Even McDonnell admits that military spending will have to be addressed sooner or later, but not until the $500 billion cuts are shut down.

As for me, I just can’t remember the Tea Party heyday of two or three years ago. Federal spending was a monster worse than communism. Now we’re back attacking candidates for not spending enough. Talk about contradictions! Makes me think I’m back in Moscow.


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  1. SolarBellow Avatar
    SolarBellow

    I think we should just print the money and continue on our same path until we Totally Run Out Of Fossil Fuels. TROOFF! It will come to be revealed that ONLY SOMEONE LIKE ME would have been the best one to have lead us through this future of dense fog around the limited supply of materials!

    Please do not spend them on 10 new ships per year to fight the Taliban lol!!

    Pardon me while I run around in a circle!

    Ok, I am back!

  2. DJRippert Avatar

    Peter:

    This is how it seems to me…

    Both parties propose to reduce federal spending.

    The Democrats want to reduce the size of government by less than envisioned by the Republicans. The Democrats, generally, want to raise taxes to maintain much of the entitlement and public welfare while reducing military spending. They hope that higher taxes and lower military spending will bring America to economic balance.

    The Republicans believe that low taxes foster growth. They want to keep the present tax system (with some changes to deductions or loopholes) and cut entitlement spending. They hope that economic growth and lower entitlement spending will allow them bring America to economic balance.

    If anybody is hypocritical it’s Virginia’s Democrats. They know full well that a second Obama term will result in dramatic reductions in defense spending. However, they have nothing to say about this.

    They could say that Virginia’s pain will be America’s gain.
    They could say that an America with a full and complete social safety net is worth economic dislocation in Virginia.
    They could say that Virginia’s multi-decade investment in infrastructure has created a state that will quickly adapt to the reduction in defense spending. Oh wait …. even the General Assembly members couldn’t say that with a straight face.

    The bottom line is that the national democrats are worse for Virginia than the national Republicans.

    It can be argued that the national Democrats are better for America but it’s very hard to see how they are better for Virginia.

  3. “The Democrats want to reduce the size of government by less than envisioned by the Republicans.”

    really? WHERE is the COMPROMISE?

    “The Democrats, generally, want to raise taxes to maintain much of the entitlement and public welfare while reducing military spending. They hope that higher taxes and lower military spending will bring America to economic balance.”

    The Dems voted FOR the across-the-board sequester. with regard to taxes – all they have asked if that we go back to the rates under Clinton because we cannot pay for our spending with the revenues we now have.

    they want to cut both entitlements AND DOD AND raise taxes sufficient to balance the budget.

    the GOP refuses to increase taxes and refuses to cut DOD and says that we can “cut” entitlements and cut taxes to generate more growth when cutting taxes before did not generate enough growth to offset the tax cuts and led directly to the deficit.

    the GOP and their supporters are living in a dream world where they refuse to recognize the fiscal realities that we face and instead live in an ideological mythical supply-side world.

    We spent 8 years of this with Bush and where did it lead?

    what is “Plan B” if supply-side, trickle-down fails and the deficit gets worse?

    “The Republicans believe that low taxes foster growth. They want to keep the present tax system (with some changes to deductions or loopholes) and cut entitlement spending. They hope that economic growth and lower entitlement spending will allow them bring America to economic balance.”

    How do you get “growth” from a “revenue neutral” tax reform?

    where does the growth come from?

    “If anybody is hypocritical it’s Virginia’s Democrats. They know full well that a second Obama term will result in dramatic reductions in defense spending. However, they have nothing to say about this.”

    if you do not cut DOD, how will you balance the budget? How can you be in the “cut-spending”, “balance the budget” group and then refuse to get the job done? You cannot balance the budget with cuts only to entitlements.

    “They could say that Virginia’s pain will be America’s gain.
    They could say that an America with a full and complete social safety net is worth economic dislocation in Virginia.”

    No. they could take a principled stand that says it important to get rid of our deficit – even if we take some of the pain.

    Do you think no defense cuts in Va and a 2 trillion deficit and 30 trillion dollar debt is better?

    “They could say that Virginia’s multi-decade investment in infrastructure has created a state that will quickly adapt to the reduction in defense spending. Oh wait …. even the General Assembly members couldn’t say that with a straight face.”

    our transportation network is rated higher than Maryland, right?

    “The bottom line is that the national democrats are worse for Virginia than the national Republicans.”

    only if you think a 2 trillion deficit and a 30 trillion debt is good for Virginia.

    “It can be argued that the national Democrats are better for America but it’s very hard to see how they are better for Virginia.”

    The GOP lives in a dream world these days. They refuse to deal with the reality that we have a trillion structural deficit and we cannot eliminate without tax increases and cuts to DOD ALONG WITH entitlement cuts.

  4. ” Talk about wanting it both ways.”

    This PRECISELY the problem with the GOP these days.

    They profess to be fiscal conservatives. They blather endlessly that we have a spending problem and are going to bankrupt the country and be in hock to China.

    All TRUE!

    But the problem is it is THEY who blew up the budget with doubling DOD , two wars and a prescription drug plan ALL on the Chinese Credit Card.

    but Obama is at fault for not fixing it.

    but he can’t go back to Clinton Era taxes, he cannot cut DOD, the only thing he can do is cut entitlements.

    this is nutty as a fruit cake.

  5. DJRippert Avatar

    “our transportation network is rated higher than Maryland, right?”

    I have never seen any ranking of transportation or traffic by state. States are largely irrelevant collections of localities based on decisions (in Virginia’s case) dating back to colonial times.

  6. DJRippert Avatar

    “But the problem is it is THEY who blew up the budget with doubling DOD , two wars and a prescription drug plan ALL on the Chinese Credit Card.”.

    Facts are stubborn things, LarryG. Here’s a graph of the national debt. Can you identify the “Obama years”?

    http://imageshack.us/a/img29/3353/nationaldebty.jpg

  7. 3. – http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/06/09/business/economy/20090610-leonhardt-graphic.html

    DJ -do you KNOW how we got to 16 T …NOW that you DO have facts?

    re: transportation –

    from the report you referenced for the Best States for Business…

    want that link again?

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