VEA Wants Better Student Discipline – Dismisses Progressive “Reforms” as Unhelpful

by James C. Sherlock

Sometimes unions work for members.

They always back higher pay and benefits. I back that position of the Virginia Education Association (VEA).

On the other hand, I have opposed some things the VEA has backed in Virginia public schools — the list starts with excessively long denial of in-school education during COVID.

But the VEA knows what is going on in Virginia classrooms, and represents their members with consistency in insisting on the need for better student discipline.

Crucially, VEA offers a distinctly different view of the importance of student discipline than does the National Education Association or the American Federation of Teachers. The socially liberal views of the VEA stop short of ignoring chaos and fear in the halls and classrooms of the schools in which their members work.

NEA and the AFT do not even acknowledge a school discipline problem affecting teacher retention.

Pay and benefits, increased diversity of the workforce, eliminating standardized tests, lowering class sizes, reducing paperwork, and expanding collective bargaining are the solutions to teacher resignations that NEA and AFT share.

I suspect that the VEA is on board with most of those. Encouragingly, it has not taken a position on SOLs in particular or standardized tests in general that I can find by searching the VEA website.

Both the NEA and AFT reject the legacy disciplinary policies that are featured by the VEA.

So I suggest that Virginia progressives take note of the VEA position when insisting:

  • that student discipline is not an issue in deteriorating learning environments and increasing teacher departures; and
  • that social emotional learning, restorative justice practices, trauma- informed care, and discipline equity measures introduced in Virginia during the Democratic interregnum in Richmond are working.

The VEA website describes its stances on issues in education. Here is their position on student discipline:

OUR POSITION

Throughout VEA Resolutions, the Association’s position is clear in insisting on safe school and work environments for both student and public education employees and for discipline policies that are developed, implemented and applied in a non-discriminatory manner.

  • The VEA believes that consistent discipline policies which respect and safeguard the physical and psychological rights of students and education employees should be established and followed in each school division in a non-discriminatory manner….”(VEA Resolutions: E-30).
  • The VEA believes that all education staff, students, parents/guardians, communities, and community agencies must work cooperatively to establish safe and orderly schools. Students and staff must be safe from physical, verbal, psychological violence, and all forms of harassment….(VEA Resolutions: D-30)
  • The VEA believes that a safe and orderly environment, in which students are treated with dignity, will provide a positive learning experience. Effective discipline enhances high expectations and quality instruction, promoting self-control and responsible behavior while ensuring the right of all students to due process and an orderly learning environment. It is incumbent upon school boards and administrators to support teachers in this pursuit…. “ (VEA Resolutions D-32) (emphasis added)

The NEA and AFT would not touch those words with a ten-foot pole.

Under the issue of student discipline, VEA notably and tellingly provides a link to the Virginia Board of Education Student Code of Conduct Policy Guidelines, January 2015 (the pre-progressive one).

It offers links neither to the Model Guidance for Student Code of Conduct Policy and Alternatives to Suspension produced by a radical Board of Education in 2019 nor to its 2021 revision.

The 2021 model guidance as described by VDOE requires:

The Virginia Board of Education has approved the revisions to the 2021 Model Guidance for Positive, Preventive Code of Student Conduct Policy and Alternatives to Suspension, a blueprint for school boards in revising local policies, systems, and practices related to student conduct and school climate. The Model Guidance represents another initiative to embrace Virginia is for Learners.

It focuses on ensuring equity and establishing prevention and intervention in a tiered system of supports. The 2021 Model Guidance also provides references to relevant Code of Virginia statutes and includes resources for developing alternatives to suspension. (emphasis added).

Not “relaxed discipline,” but rather a “tiered system of supports.” Good to know.

On the subject of the relaxation of student discipline measures passed by the General Assembly and resulting model policies of the Board of Education, the VEA writes:

The VEA Legislative Committee has consistently opposed bills that would remove local school and school system discretion and control of discipline and bills that would seriously weaken protections and assurances of safe learning and working environments for students and school employees. (emphasis added).

So, I recommend that advocates of the “reforms” imposed by a Democratic General Assembly, Governor Northam and his woke BOE drop the pretenses:

  • that they have worked to improve student discipline and learning environments in Virginia; and
  • that they have not contributed to teacher resignations here.

But I am absolutely sure they will not drop it. It would be admitting error.  And dogma cannot be acknowledged to contain error.

They will instead attack the VEA for heresy. Or attempt to compel it to “restate and clarify” its positions that “some may misconstrue.”

Or both.

Virginia teachers, on the other hand, can pick which union has their best interests at heart.


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19 responses to “VEA Wants Better Student Discipline – Dismisses Progressive “Reforms” as Unhelpful”

  1. “[Progressives] will instead attack the VEA for heresy. Or attempt to compel it to “restate and clarify” its positions that “some may misconstrue.”

    I predict that progressives will just ignore the VEA. They’re in deep denial, as I expect our usual suspects will amply illustrate in comments on your post.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      We’ll see. It is courageous for the VEA to go its own way. I expect pressure by the NEA for the VEA to conform.

  2. WayneS Avatar

    Democratic interregnum

    Interregnum. I like your use of that word, and and all that it implies.

  3. In attributing any breakdown in school discipline during the past school year to radical changes instituted by the Northam administration and Democrats in the General Assembly, you, Jim Bacon, and others make two errors. First, you ignore that the Commonwealth has a complex system of delivering public education. It is not a top-down system in which the state central office dictates policies.

    Jim S. can speak for himself, but I have repeatedly acknowledged the limitations of the VDOE to impose its will on the school districts. That said, VDOE issues policies and guidance that provide direction to local districts. While local school boards may theoretically be free to not follow VDOE advice, VDOE and local administrators interact constantly through meetings, conferences and presentations. Many of the locals, especially the smaller and midsized districts, look to VDOE for expertise and guidance.

    Plus, when the General Assembly enacts a law, it often applies to everyone, not just VDOE.

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      And those school boards, with the exception of a few, are elected and therefore accountable to the voters of the local jurisdiction.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        I think I figured it out.

        If the Gov is GOP, you want VDOE to rule top-down..

        but if the Gov is Dem, you want “local control”.

  4. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    Interesting listening to Conservatives on local control versus top-down from VDOE/Va.

    Some of it seems to be a desire to get to those urbanized schools with discipline issues to make them do “discipline” the way they think it should be done but at the same time the state has a larger number of rural districts that I bet would prefer to retain their “local control” and not have any more top-down mandated stuff.

    VEC makes a deal about “local control” but Conservatives like JAB and Sherlock seem to have no such passion and seem instead to hew to “top down” and also especially when it came to COVID in-person.

    Not too sure Conservatives are still in love with “local control”.

  5. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    VEA is nothing more than a PAC vending machine for politicians. I don’t believe a word they say. VEA and local county affiliates such as LEA will tell members whatever they need to hear in order to collect 640 dollars a year in dues. A large portion of which will be doled out to the very politicians that gave us the 2021 Model Guidelines Policies come reelection time in 2023.

  6. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    Other state affiliates may show the same pattern, being closer to the troops on the ground than the genius higher-ups. And the Whitehead comment doesn’t contradict that, as it is the state affiliates that are on point recruiting and retaining members (as we found out when my wife quit long ago in Roanoke County.)

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      Thanks for that perspective.

  7. Kathleen Smith Avatar
    Kathleen Smith

    Tiered discipline is nothing but a new woke word for saying, first you work with the teacher to provide for all students, then that student who doesn’t respond, then call his parent, then send a referral for discipline, then try in school suspension, then a one day suspension, then three days, then ten days…..

    Bottom line, the data shows teachers are leaving. The data that tells us why is left undetermined at this point. A good guess would be discipline. Prove that. Then figure it out from there.

    Frankly, if boards are held accountable for test scores, attendance, discipline referrals, and teacher departures, are we giving them too many balls to hold in the air at one time? Focus on one outcome measure— test scores or student engagement, but not both. The others will fall in place. I’d choose SOL scores….limited variables. Student engagement, many variables.

  8. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    This article is typical conservative fare on this blog—long on
    generalities, short on specifics, and ready to blame the Northam administration and Democrats in the General Assembly for everything.

    First of all, it is not clear that the VEA policies are in conflict with the model guidance put forth by the Board of Education. The 2021 edition of Model Guidance for Positive, Preventative Code of Student Conduct Policy and Alternatives to Suspension states:

    “To create local student conduct policies, school division leaders should work with staff, students, families, community based organizations, and other stakeholders to accurately assess a school’s climate and the current status of school discipline, develop a shared vision for what it should be, and establish policies and practices to create a positive school environment where students and staff feel safe and supported.” (Emphasis added.)

    Furthermore, that policy document states repeatedly, “Local school boards are required to adopt and revise regulations on codes of student conduct that are consistent with, but may be more stringent than, these Guidelines.”(Emphasis added) https://www.doe.virginia.gov/support/student_conduct/index.shtml

    You use a quote from the VEA to imply that organization opposes “the relaxation of student discipline measures passed by the General Assembly and resulting model policies of the Board of Education,” when, in reality, the VEA is voicing opposition to bills that “would remove local school and school system discretion and control of discipline.” As noted above, local school boards may adopt policies that are more stringent than VDOE guidelines.

    And, what specifically is wrong with the state model guidance? How have the discipline measures been “relaxed” to such an extent that school discipline is now an overwhelming problem? No specifics are provided, only general ranting.

    In attributing any breakdown in school discipline during the
    past school year to radical changes instituted by the Northam administration and Democrats in the General Assembly, you, Jim Bacon, and others make two errors. First, you ignore that the Commonwealth has a complex system of delivering public education. It is not a top-down system in which the state central office dictates policies. Each local school board has considerable discretion as to how it will operate its schools. Furthermore, it takes considerable time for significant changes to be integrated into a complex social system. To attribute behaviors in the 2021-2022 school year to legislation and policies that became effective, at most, two years previously is ignoring reality.

    The second mistake is not considering any other factor that
    may have been affecting student behavior this past year. There have been reports from all across the country of increases in student misbehavior, even violence, upon their return to school after two years of coping with isolation and remote learning during the pandemic. No less a source than the Wall Street Journal, that conservative mainstay, has reported on this phenomenon. In that story, it touched on the experiences of schools in Louisiana, Texas, New Mexico, Illinois, Colorado, and Florida.

    Hardly anyone would accuse Texas as having the same political environment that was in office in Virginia over the past two
    years. However, a Dallas middle school, which used to suspend students for disruptive behavior, now “sends them to what
    the district calls a reset center, typically in unused classrooms and sometimes in outdoor sessions, where they get counseling for between one to three days.” There, students are encouraged to talk about what “they were doing to avoid the misbehavior that had led to their disciplinary problems.” Also, in Dallas,
    “elementary-school students now start the day with a 45-minute social-emotional learning session.”

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      Dick, the article is about the position of the VIrginia Education Association.

      “The VEA Legislative Committee has consistently opposed bills that would remove local school and school system discretion and control of discipline and bills that would seriously weaken protections and assurances of safe learning and working environments for students and school employees.” (emphasis added).

      All of the bills that have restructured student discipline approaches in recent years and have weakened safe learning and working environments” have been Democratic bills signed by Ralph Northam.

      Just a fact. Look them up in the Code of Virginia. Look for changes starting in 2019.

      Start with § 22.1-279.3:1. Reports of certain acts to school authorities; reports of certain acts by school authorities to parents; reports of certain acts by school authorities to law enforcement. Look at the 2020 change:

      “Further, the principal shall report that whether the incident has been reported to local law enforcement as required by law pursuant to this subsection and, if the incident is so reported, that the parents may contact local law enforcement for further information, if they so desire.”

      § 22.1-279.6. Board of Education guidelines and model policies for codes of student conduct; school board regulations.

      It was under this law that the McAuliffe/Northam BOE rewrote those model policies in 2019 and again in 2021 to greatly weaken school discipline.

      There are others.

      Any other interpretation of the VEA language on its opposition to “bills that seriously weaken protections and assurances of safe learning and working environments” is unsupported by the clear legislative and rule-making record of the Northam Administration during the Democratic interregnum.

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        Jennifer Foy and Jennifer McClellan were the chief architects of those bills. It is going to take years to undo that which was sown in 2020.

  9. James Kiser Avatar
    James Kiser

    I stopped working as a substitute after having to break up 2 fights in the same class in two weeks. Had enough. You all can argue all you want about directives and etc. but the issue the liberal , socialist , woke crowd does not like are rules period or customs or mores or values except their own dogma which is sacred. Doesn’t matter how many bodies litter the way to the nirvana.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      Trying to separate out how much of this was your own dislike of having to break up fights or whether the folks engaging in the fights needed to be expelled/removed but the progressive policies would not do it?

      1. James Kiser Avatar
        James Kiser

        Both

  10. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    interesting stats:

    if discipline is the issue , looks like the two counties got it too:

    RICHMOND, Va. — With 639 teacher vacancies in Chesterfield, Richmond and Henrico, Richmond Superintendent Jason Kamras said his district would have to establish a strong substitute pool and combine some small classes if not enough teachers can be found by the beginning of the school year.

    “We are seeing unprecedented numbers of teachers leaving the profession all across the country,” Kamras said.

    Chesterfield: 232 teacher vacancies
    Henrico: 231 teacher vacancies
    Richmond: 176 teacher vacancies

    https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/unprecedented-teacher-vacancies-chesterfield-henrico-richmond-2022

  11. oromae Avatar

    Likely Virginia’s teachers leave for reasons similar to the rest of the nation.
    The midwest finds student behavior to be the culprit.

    https://thechalkboardreview.com/report-615-midwestern-teachers-reveal-why-theyre-really-leaving-the-classroom/

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