UVa’s Lawn Applications Down… Again. Why?

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by James A. Bacon

Forty-seven University of Virginia students have been offered a room on the Lawn for the 2023-24 academic year. They were selected from a pool of 152 applicants, reports The Cavalier Daily. The number of applications was down from 189 last year and 221 two years ago.

Why the decline?

There was a time when residence on the Lawn was a coveted honor. Does the fall-off in applications reflect a sentiment among UVa students that life on the Lawn is less of a privilege than it once was? Are students today more likely to find the living conditions — such as the necessity to walk outside to reach a bathroom — too primitive for comfort? Alternatively, do some students believe the Lawn selection is stacked and see no point in applying?

The Cavalier Daily does not ask the question. Those of us who are not part of the selection process are left to speculate.

Here’s a clue: the newspaper article reports the demographic make-up of the Lawn residents. The collection and dissemination of such data reflects upon the priorities of those involved in the selection process. As the old saying goes, you manage what you measure.
Reports the CD:

This year, consistent with a smaller applicant pool, fewer students of color were offered a Lawn room. For the 2023-24 academic year, 36 percent of Lawn rooms were offered to students of color — compared to 47 percent last year.

Eight Lawn rooms were offered to African American students — 17 percent of the offers compared to last year’s 20 percent. Seven offers, or 15 percent, were awarded to Asian or Asian Pacific Islander students, five fewer offers than the previous year. Offers to Latinx students increased to a total of five rooms — or 11 percent of the total — which is two more than last year’s offers. (Editor’s note: According the CD’s own figures, “students of color” received 43% of the offers, not 36%.)

Students offered a spot on the Lawn are expected to further “the ideals and traditions of the University” as well as build “an inclusive and vibrant community while residing on the Lawn,” reports The Cavalier Daily. 

Students are selected by a Lawn Selection Committee of 60 fourth-year students, none of whom are permitted to live on the Lawn. According to Student Affairs’ Application FAQs (my bold):

There are 32 ex-officio student members of the Lawn Selection Committee who represent a diversity of experiences and perspectives at U.Va., including: representatives from each of the seven academic schools offering undergraduate degrees; the Senior Resident of the Lawn (non-voting member); the President of Student Council; the Chair of the Honor Committee; the Chair of the University Judiciary Committee; representatives from the Pan-Asian Leadership Council, the Asian Student Union, the Black Student Alliance, the Black Presidents Council, the Global Student Council, the Jewish Leadership Council, the Inter-Fraternity Council, the Inter-Sorority Council, the Cultural Organization for Latin Americans, the Middle Eastern Leadership Council, the Multicultural Greek Council, the Muslim Students Association, the National Pan-Hellenic Council, the Native American Student Union, the Queer Student Union, the Student Athlete Advisory Council, the Fourth Year Trustees, the Student Veterans Association, the Student Disability Alliance, the Transfer Student Peer Advisors, and the Black Student-Athletes Offering Service and Support.

The rest of the student representatives are selected randomly on a first-come, first-serve basis.

In other words, 11 representatives come from student organizations representing ethnic, sexual, or gender identity groups. It is unknown from the Student Affairs website description whether the “randomly selected” students are urged by any of these groups to step forward and participate.

Who decides upon this particular process? The website FAQs explain:

The University Dean of Students serves as the chairperson for the Organizing Committee, which includes the following members: the Dean of the Office of African-American Affairs, the Director of Information Technology in Housing & Residence Life, the Senior Resident of the Lawn, and the presidents or chairpersons of the following groups: Student Council, the Honor Committee, the University Judiciary Committee, and the seven undergraduate school councils (Architecture, Batten, College, Commerce, Education, Engineering, and Nursing).

The Organizing Committee is also responsible for determining the selection criteria, the content of the Lawn application, and training the Selection Committee on the criteria and process of selection.

The Dean of African-American affairs’ appointment to the selection committee introduces a clear identity-group orientation to the selection process. The same might be said of the Dean of Students, whose website expresses a commitment to Diversity, Equity & Inclusion; in particular support for:

  • Multicultural students
  • Veterans and military
  • Students with disabilities
  • First-generation and low-income students
  • African-American students
  • Students facing food insecurity
  • LGBQT+ students

Not surprisingly, minority students are awarded Lawn residencies at disproportionate rates.

African-American students represented 7.1% of the undergraduate student body, according to UVa’s Diversity Dashboard (which was last updated with 2020 data), yet African-Americans were awarded 17% of the offers.

Asian-Americans, comprising 12% of the undergraduate student body, received 15% of the offers.

Hispanics, representing 7.1% of the undergraduate student body, received 11% of the offers.

Making comparisons a bit tricky: the Diversity Dashboard breaks out multi-racial students and non-resident aliens as separate groups. It is not clear if the selection committee does.

Another factor complicating any analysis is the fact that Student Affairs does not provide the breakdown of the applicants by race, much less by gender or sexual orientation. Thus, it is unknown whether favored identity groups are selected for Lawn residency at higher rates than others.

Insufficient information is made public on the UVa website to conclude with any certainty if identity-group favoritism enters into the selection process. But the Organizing Committee should be concerned by the declining number of applications, and, given the facts cited above, it should inquire into whether perceived favoritism in the selection process might be the explanation.


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66 responses to “UVa’s Lawn Applications Down… Again. Why?”

  1. Virginia Gentleman Avatar
    Virginia Gentleman

    Perhaps students were scared members of the BOV would show up with razor blades and confront them?

    1. M. Purdy Avatar
      M. Purdy

      It’s the only logical explanation. Call it “Lawn flight,” if you will. Students just will not put with it. They want an education, not Big BOV Brother breathing down their necks.

      1. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        Seriously, you two are jokes. Ooh, an alumnus disagrees with us! Waaaah! I’m triggered!
        But walk down to the Woke Corner and get really triggered and nothing to see here, except the police outline of the body.

        If you are actually supposedly qualified for the honor of a Lawn room, you should be able to handle disagreement.

        Hey, did I mention how UVA lowered the academic standards for a Lawn room (besides the Rube Goldberg 60 person committee)?

        1. Virginia Gentleman Avatar
          Virginia Gentleman

          Remind me again how posts like this don’t get deleted?

          1. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Wow. You think saying someone is a joke is worthy of deletion? How old are you? Is this a generational thing? When I was a kid, far worse insults were thrown and we’d say sticks and stones…
            Hey, libel Bert and no problem. But numnuts! Ooh, run run, danger!

          2. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            How is Bert being libeled? Seriously, you guys throw that word around a lot but I don’t think you appreciate what it actually entails. Opinions are not libel; pointing out facts isn’t libelous (it’s actually a defense).

          3. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Calling him a racist for sponsoring a debate?
            Libel – The legally indefensible publication or broadcast of words or images that are degrading to a person or injurious to his or her reputation.
            Racist? Homophobe?
            Seems to fit….
            (Now for the inevitable Lefty “…but Sullivan v NY Times” – a Court created bad decision that needs to be reined in. Hard cases make bad law)

          4. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            Racist and homophobe are opinions; the public is allowed to have opinions about public figures, and Mr. Ellis is one when it comes to UVa. Just like this blog is allowed to call Jim Ryan all sorts of names and have opinions about him. You correctly cited NYT v. Sullivan, but your bashing it as a conservative is ironic given that it’s the only thing currently protecting Fox News from ruin. Careful what you wish for…I suspect when all is said and done, conservatives will be the ones touting the brilliance of NYT v. Sullivan.

          5. CJBova Avatar

            Character assassination is not new and might not be libel in a court case, but it’s ugly and morally wrong. Social media seems to be erasing that concept and encouraging such expressions.

          6. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Seriously, you’re back on the crazy farm. Fox News is the only one protected by NYT v Sullivan? The entire Leftwing media (but I repeat myself) has developed lie on purpose and hide behind it is near impossible to prove malice.
            It needs “reform.” It should never have been created, but 60 years of perfection of the slime first and maybe, maybe, correct later has to be fixed.
            Meanwhile, “degrading to a person” or “injurious to his reputation” would seem to fit as libel. Hiding behind “opinion” would work if stated as an opinion, but constantly repeating it and deleting very relevant facts crosses that line.

          7. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            “Fox News is the only one protected by NYT v Sullivan?” Point to me where I said this. I said that the high bar for defamation is protecting Fox News from ruin right now, and is the only thing doing so. That is true. They cite it liberally in their motion for summary judgment. As for your accusations against “liberal media,” I call b.s. Show me the extent of the lies that Fox News has engaged in.

          8. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            RUSSIA! Insurrection? Mostly peaceful protests?
            Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation?
            And Fox News citing the current law in a motion for summary judgment does not mean Fox lied. It means Fox is taking advantage of what the law says currently in making the other side prove its case. Which does seem like a naked attempt at lawfare that made most companies cave. Purely as a legal matter, Fox is right. We’ll see if Fox drew an honest judge.

          9. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            “And Fox News citing the current law in a motion for summary judgment does not mean Fox lied.” I never said it did. I said that they’re citing a precedent that most conservatives hate b/c it’s too high a bar for defamation, which is ironic as hell b/c it’s the only thing protecting them from a summary judgment the other way. Read Murdoch’s deposition, read the texts from Hannity, Ingraham, Maria B., Tucker, they all recognized that the stolen election narrative was fabricated, but continued to pursue it due to the rating, with major reservations. Take your politics hat off, and look at what’s been revealed. It’s the closest thing to smoking gun of “actual malice” we’ve ever seen.

          10. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            No, no – Sarah Palin was. Here is a timely article on why Times needs to be overturned. https://donsurber.substack.com/p/florida-can-save-journalism?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1115457&post_id=104744464&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email
            Classic lawfare by Dominion. And truth is a defense if it ever gets to trial…

          11. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            “And truth is a defense if it ever gets to trial…” Precisely…if execs and talent are saying that there’s no truth to the claims, they have a rickety defense to say the least.

          12. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            And that still doesn’t mean not true. If Dominion was totally sure of the product, it wouldn’t need to do lawfare. In fact, it would welcome the chance to show so.

          13. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            Pssst, that’s what they’re about to do. Dominion machines weren’t compromised, there’s no evidence of that. That’s why Fox, in its summary judgment, didn’t argue truth (i.e., Dominion was compromised to steal votes from Trump) as a defense. They argued that Dominion hadn’t met its evidentiary burden of actual malice. Murdoch on down knew that the stories peddled by Trump and his troglodytes were false, but they still pushed forward for viewership. I can’t wait for this to go to trial…:-).

          14. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            FOX was at least partially responsible for Jan 6 IMO. Those folks that stormed the Capitol believed Trump because FOX was saying t was true AND some of them including a substantial number of elected GOP still do.

          15. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Good for you. So exciting. In summary judgments, you rarely argue facts, you argue law

          16. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            Wrong. Summary judgment is where you argue facts. Motion to dismiss is where you argue law, specifically that the other side doesn’t have a cognizable claim even if the facts are true. Where did you go to law school? Wait, don’t tell me…U of R;-)?

          17. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            You argue a legal issue that there aren’t any situation of facts by which the other side could win, even if all true in the best light possible. That’s legal.
            If summary judgment not granted, then you have a trial to determine.
            I know you work for UVA…
            Or are in love with Marxism
            Not sure there is a diff…
            Maybe you are on the Dominion Lawfare team…Mark Elias? The big bogeyman – Soros ? And all the DAs making streets unsafe for the mostly Black people Dems claim to love (but only for harvesting their “ballots” as “votes.”)

            Oh, UofR Law used to have a very high Bar pass rate… Not now, but they do have pronoun days, so there’s that.
            Oh! And this!
            https://www.canva.com/design/DAFaw9Pb-_c/JOySmUsFSquBT-UwngIf3g/view

            Yep, that’s what REAL BAPTISTS fund! Now go waste somebody else’s time. Unless you want to tell President Hallock to quit being a fraidy cat and give us the documents we have asked for for over 5 months. Shouldn’t we have gotten them? Gotten them before the Board voted? Been told this was happening before the vote? Been told as soon as the request to dename was initiated?

            UVA is watering down excellence and historic capital to virtue signal. So is the Clown Coward Pres of UofR. That’s my opinion, but it seems well-supported by fact. I’m sure there is a big part to living on the Lawn is a challenge in the application drop, bathroom wise. But the honor part used to outweigh the challenge part by a lot. Now that Ryan and the Feckless BOV are killing honor, the honor system, Jefferson’s greatness, and they have a ridiculous politically stacked “selection” process, only good little activists get to go on the Lawn because they will do anything for the Party…

          18. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            “I know you work for UVA…” I do not, never have. Weird accusation. “Or are in love with Marxism…” OK, sure. I’ll have to tell my stockbroker…weirder accusation. “UVA is watering down excellence and historic capital to virtue signal.” I’m so glad Bert Ellis is there to get them back on track; is he the epitome of the “excellence” you want UVa to return to? No thanks, take it elsewhere.

          19. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            You went out of your way to defend Goluboff as not a Marxist before… seem to be part of the D team. And Bert’s different viewpoint is needed. Desperately.

          20. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            Bert has, through his own words and actions, assured that his viewpoint will be ignored or met with fierce resistance. Most people assume good faith; he’s forfeited that assumption. If he’s your vessel, perhaps find another vessel.

          21. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Oh, OK. Being angry at a spoiled ingrate writing F UVA on a Lawn door and the feeble response from Jim Ryan (because he agrees) and the non-intellectual monoculture is disqualifying. Your side is evil and terrified of resistance, because you will lose any honest debate. But you do you.

          22. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            “Your side is evil….” The essence of honest debate if I’ve ever seen it.

          23. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Just keep talking…
            Dehumanizing people is evil. Yellow stars? Unvaxed? Racist? Blah blah blah
            That’s what you “loving” Lefties do, because you cannot win an honest argument.
            So you come in with nuclear level heat to intimidate into silence…
            Libel and calumny A-OK in service of the narrative – and a false one at that. I call that evil. Too bad for you. I ain’t scared anymore.

          24. Virginia Gentleman Avatar
            Virginia Gentleman

            Thank you Purdy – gosh please don’t ever leave BR. You and a few others make this readable.

          25. CJBova Avatar

            Character assassination is not new and might not be libel in a court case, but it’s ugly and morally wrong. Social media seems to be erasing that concept and encouraging such expressions.

          26. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            If you mean factual misstatements that the speaker knew were false or should have known were false, then yes, character assassination could be libel. Expressing an opinion of Mr. Ellis, especially one that is supported by fact, doesn’t come close to the definition. Contrast what Fox News is going through right now to what’s being described here–Fox execs and talent knew that the stories they were peddling were factually untrue or completely unsupported; they proceeded. The accusations against Mr. Ellis are not that.

          27. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            If you mean factual misstatements that the speaker knew were false or should have known were false, then yes, character assassination could be libel. Expressing an opinion of Mr. Ellis, especially one that is supported by fact, doesn’t come close to the definition. Contrast what Fox News is going through right now to what’s being described here–Fox execs and talent knew that the stories they were peddling were factually untrue or completely unsupported; they proceeded. The accusations against Mr. Ellis are not that.

          28. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            I though your comment interesting given the number of blog posts in BR that focus on individuals, like Northam, Ryan, individuals involved in the Loudoun schools and others where the individual is brought up in the blog post and , in effect, IMO, demonized for their actions.

            These blog posts are not considered character assassination in your mind?

          29. CJBova Avatar

            Not if it’s about actions they did.

          30. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            When they are characterized as “leftists” , “social justice warriors”, etc?

          31. CJBova Avatar

            I thought leftists wanted to be social justice warriors.

          32. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            “Not if it’s about actions they did.” Leaving aside the merits of the accusations against Bert Ellis, how does he not fit into this exact category? Documented actions and now words….

          33. CJBova Avatar

            Seems more that your interpretation of actions is off. Working on a potential debate to showcase a black scholar against a eugenicist is hardly racist.

          34. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            First, it’s not my opinion; I don’t believe I’ve ever called him a racist, and I said specifically “leaving aside the merits of the accusation….” Second, you cherry picked one item–the eugenicist invitation–to say that the interpretation is off, when there are more facts that you left out that might lead a reasonable person to the opinions you disagree with. Third, no one has shown me ANY false factual accusation that has been made against Mr. Ellis that would qualify as defamation under the law, only that you don’t like the opinions of Mr. Ellis. By contrast, a certain poster used to regularly make false factual allegations against me….but I digress.

          35. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            no more or less than having a white guy at that debate speaking “for” eugenics?

            The concept itself is odious and morally inappropriate.

          36. CJBova Avatar

            Not in context that the point was to debunk Shockley’s POV. I’ll quote JAB here, ” But as a scientist [Shockley] awarded the Nobel Prize for his invention of the transistor, he was held in high esteem by many and his ideas were taken seriously. Harvard University had scheduled a debate pitting Shockley versus a prominent Black intellectual, and the three organizers of the UVa Student Union thought to do the same. The key fact neglected by Ellis’ critics is that the Shockley event was a debate — a debate with respected Black biologist Richard Goldsby. The hope and expectation of the organizers, according to Ellis, was that Goldsby would demolish Shockley, thus debunking a widely held racist theory.”

        2. M. Purdy Avatar
          M. Purdy

          Walt, I’m the joke? I’m triggered? I made a joke (yes) making fun of the Premier of the Jefferson Council losing his cool like a 12 y.o., but I’m triggered? You’re the guy suing (or cheerleading?) U. of R. for a $3billion, right? Guess who doesn’t engage in stupid media stunt lawsuits? Me. Who’s the joke again?

          1. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            I’ll own going after UofR. And I will embarrass the Board for its governance failure. Let me know when the coward President will let us see the presentation to his Board. Wanna bet it was less than complete? Objective? Fair?

          2. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            The question is whether a court is going to care how fair it was (assuming that’s part of the cause of action). It’s a private institution that decided to rename buildings for anyone who supported white supremacy or slavery. Presumably they duly concluded that T. C. Williams fell into that category (mind you, I don’t personally know enough to judge, just saying that’s what appears happened). Genuinely curious, was there any stipulation in the actual grant that required the school to carry that name in perpetuity?

          3. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            I don’t know, since the brave, virtue-signaling UofR won’t share the documents. But the “principles” adopted 70 years after the last of many gifts is…OK? What if UofR solicited these gifts for years and accepted the money? When did the donor(s) become unacceptable? If the donor(s) were unacceptable, why was the money?
            And we have far, far more evidence, but first, I want to see if UofR put on any defense, or just did a hit job and didn’t expect blowback. The fact that the President has ignored over 2 dozen requests and will only talk to friendly press instead of me and my brother seems to indicate the answer.

          4. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            I would guess that even if there were some kind of stipulations in the actual grant that it wouldn’t actual be enforceable (due to various legal doctrines) so many years after the fact. Institutions are allowed to evolve, and the law expects them to evolve. I hope you get to see the presentation, but my guess is that no matter what it says you’ll be unhappy with it.

          5. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Thanks. We have a small point of agreement. What I do know is 112 years of support, and to “discover” new “principles” 70 years after the last death is “problematic.” And they still have money in trusts from that family, besides the outright gifts and service. The Board needs to be shamed. UofR deserves every bit of bad press we are bringing. There needs to be a “cost” to virtue-signaling. Unnecessarily besmirching dead people who were far more virtuous than any of these critics.

          6. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            It’s your right to pursue that, but it’s up to the courts to decide whether that’s the right venue to air out these disagreements (in contrast to pursuing actual causes of action). I’m interested to see what happens with this case for sure.

          7. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Why should we have to sue? UofR said the donor was not worthy of UofR, so wouldn’t a person of honor restore the money? Even slimeball politicians give back the donor money when the donor falls into disfavor.

          8. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            I suspect you have to sue because U of R is under no obligation to make its presentations public.

    2. WayneS Avatar

      Okay, that was funny.

  2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    That is the most over engineered selection process I have ever heard of. Perhaps today’s modern Cavalier does not wish to live in an 1819 setting.

  3. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    re: ” ..the necessity to walk outside to reach a bathroom”

    what?

    1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      They have pretty big trees on the Lawn…

    2. walter smith Avatar
      walter smith

      True. The Lawn – the Academical Village – built 1819 to 1826? No bathrooms then – chamber pots. Bathrooms are behind the historical original structure.

      1. WayneS Avatar

        Please don’t take this personally, but it seems I cannot resist the imp of the perverse this morning:

        Who do you suppose emptied those chamber pots prior to, say 1865?

        1. walter smith Avatar
          walter smith

          Probably slaves. We know slavery used to exist. What is your stupid point? That it didn’t? Maybe hired workers, too. Maybe the students (but I doubt it – they were “gentlemen” – sorry that was the world that existed.)
          Should the Lawn/Rotunda/Academical Village be torn down? Who builds all structures today? Probably people from the “lower” or “muscular” classes (all hated by the Left) for wages.
          What do you think of the slavery and human trafficking Joe Biden and his open border fellow-travelers are allowing currently? Is that “good” slavery?

          1. WayneS Avatar

            Actually, it was more of a joke.

  4. WayneS Avatar

    There was a time when residence on the Lawn was a coveted honor.

    Perhaps that is not the case any more.

  5. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    This is a case of going to great lengths to imply certain motives behind a result, then admitting that there is not enough evidence available to “conclude with any certainty if identity-group favoritism enters into the selection process”

    1. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      The lack of evidence is entirely due to UVa’s unwillingness to release all the relevant facts.

      1. M. Purdy Avatar
        M. Purdy

        Key word is “relevant.” None of this is relevant to anything, other than starting a new line of attack in the war for “soul of UVa” or whatever the Jeff Council is peddling these days. No wonder the school and the student body are so wary…

  6. M. Purdy Avatar
    M. Purdy

    Prepare to clutch your pearls, folks….Bert Ellis APOLOGIZED! Well, sort of…he basically said he’s sorry for being caught for being a hothead. In any case, I find it odd that he would apologize if he did nothing wrong. Something tells me this saga is not over with Mr. Ellis. https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/03/03/bert-ellis-apology-uva-text-messages/

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      saw that. Yes, what in the dooda is he apologizing for after all his supporters were claiming his “free speech” was being stomped on? Is he now admitting that “free speech” has consequences?

      I actually expected more backbone from such staunch conservatism.

  7. M. Purdy Avatar
    M. Purdy

    Prepare to clutch your pearls, folks….Bert Ellis APOLOGIZED! Well, sort of…he basically said he’s sorry for being caught for being a hothead. In any case, I find it odd that he would apologize if he did nothing wrong. Something tells me this saga is not over with Mr. Ellis. https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/03/03/bert-ellis-apology-uva-text-messages/

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