UVa President Ryan Has “No Idea.” Golly Gee.

by James C. Sherlock

As a follow-up to yesterday’s story on the slide show for the UVa Board of Visitors on DEI at the University, I think it only fair to offer President Ryan’s preamble to that presentation.

To summarize:

  • He cannot imagine what all the fuss is about; but
  • He assures that DEI efforts at UVa are misconstrued by critics, who he divides into two camps:
    1. those who support the goals of DEI “but are concerned about overreach threatening academic freedoms or seem designed to enforce ideological conformity”; and
    2. “one that asserts that the programs are being used to promote a stringently liberal, if not radical agenda – one that stands in opposition to merit and excellence and unfairly privileges certain groups over others.”
  • He asserts that any fair criticisms will be taken seriously; and
  • He is trying to create a level playing field.

He asserts that:

We ought to define the terms that comprise DEI; assess and resolve instances where DEI efforts are in potential conflict with other core values; and continually examine what is working and what is not and adjust accordingly.

He then proceeds to define the terms diversity, equity and inclusion in a clear attempt to push critics of his DEI program, expanded enormously in a progressive attempt to “never let a crisis go to waste” in 2020, to the edges of reasoned debate.

He professes he has “no idea where this notion” (that equity means equal outcomes) came from. This from a man whose own DEI bureaucracy publishes only statistical outcomes.

“No idea.”

I call this the “golly gee” approach. “Golly gee” indicates surprise, excitement or both from an innocent in the ways of the world.

Seriously?  Spare us.

A field of straw men. Ignoring the recruiting, admissions, hiring and curriculum oversight elements of the equity policies of his university that I quoted yesterday,

  • he asserts colleges like his are using DEI to “remove barriers to success” and
  • that should not be controversial.

That is of course a classic straw man. He knows that removing barriers to success is not controversial.

He offers “working definitions” of diversity, equity and inclusion — meaning they work for him.

I would define diversity broadly to include not just race, ethnicity, and gender but a wide range of other factors and characteristics, including geography, socioeconomic status, first-generation status, disability status, religion, age, sexual orientation, viewpoint, ideology, and special talents.

He never offers information about the University’s efforts to ensure viewpoint and ideology diversity.

He assures that equity does not mean equal outcomes. Yet the university “Diversity Dashboard” delivers only statistics.

His examples of “equity”

For example, offering a sign-language interpreter for someone who is deaf or a ramp for someone in a wheelchair are hardly radical gestures.

He then defends financial aid for needy students — intentionally leaving the impression that it is under attack. It is of course not under attack. By anyone.

He asserts that inclusion is “an effort to make everyone feel like they belong and are full and welcome members of the community.” His examples: food in the dining halls; how the institution’s history is told and pictures on the walls; holidays and events celebrated.

the basic idea that colleges should create an environment where people feel welcome and at home should not raise a lot of eyebrows.

Another straw man. Making people feel welcome does not “raise eyebrows.”

We are still at this point awaiting discussion of the elusive “viewpoint and ideological diversity.”

Taking criticisms seriously. Having defined the terms of the debate, Mr. Ryan deals with criticisms on his terms.

He asserts that he takes seriously “critiques [that] focus on diversity statements or mandatory diversity trainings,” but

That is not to say that all diversity statements and mandatory trainings should be tossed out wholesale, or that applicants and current employees should never be asked about DEI. There is nothing inherently wrong in asking people how they might help advance the values of the organization.

But he cautions that such inquiries should not “raise the specter of coercion.”

Measuring success. As for measuring success, he does not offer hope other than through statistics, not otherwise offering concepts of “evidence.”

Some efforts, like those focused on inclusion, can be difficult to measure. Others, such as the demographic composition of students and faculty, retention rates, and graduation rates, are easier. Still others require ongoing evidence-based assessment.

Finally he calls for continuing assessment of what works and what does not. He promises “discipline” in undefined future DEI efforts.

Bottom line. Mr. Ryan, a graduate of the UVa Law School, offers not a word about DEI in the context of the United States Constitution.

He fails to acknowledge the requirement of a state university to comport itself within the constraints of the First Amendment. Which was, of course, designed to be constraining.

He does not try to defend the university’s DEI activities in terms of freedom of speech. He simply asserts they will be “disciplined” and try to avoid seeming “coercive” in the future.

But in Mr. Ryan’s vision of the University, DEI functionaries will retain the oversight of recruiting, admissions, hiring and curriculum that they currently exert. They will still have a vote on tenure. He admits they will still ask the same questions.

They will just will not mean to be coercive. Or to intrude on academic freedoms.

Mr. Ryan presents as a trained attorney defending himself here. In doing so, he confirms the Italian proverb about such efforts.

His other client is the Board of Visitors. Whose clients in turn are the Governor and the people of Virginia. Who may not prove as pleased with Mr. Ryan’s services as he clearly is.

Golly gee.


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34 responses to “UVa President Ryan Has “No Idea.” Golly Gee.”

  1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    What was the reaction of the Board of Visitors to Ryan’s presentation? Did any members exhibit the same degree of skepticism as you?

    1. LesGabriel Avatar
      LesGabriel

      One could only hope.

    2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      The presentation was given today. I have not heard the reaction.

      1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
        Dick Hall-Sizemore

        I mean the reaction of the Board members at the meeting. Did they ask any questions? Did they challenge Ryan? Did they ask about the infamous DEI hiring letters? From the tone of your article, I assumed you were there or at least watched it remotely.

        1. walter smith Avatar
          walter smith

          A reasonable discussion was held. UVA was stuck on why does Ryan describe “diversity” as many attributes but the dashboard measures only race and sex. When asked about intellectual diversity among faculty, UVA claimed it had no idea if things were out of balance. The UVA people had problems with identifying one’s political party (I agree with that), but have no problem with mandated DEi statements or bending admissions to favor black applicants (and the percentage of black acceptances has gone down since UVA started “helping.”)
          Quite clear this is a hill UVA admin and faculty wish to die on…

    3. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      One, I’m sure.

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        Maybe if he is amplified enough on BR….

  2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    “He fails to acknowledge the requirement of a state university to comport itself within the constraints of the First Amendment.”

    Here is that claim of First Amendment violations… still waiting on specific incident citations…

    1. M. Purdy Avatar
      M. Purdy

      The only near FA violation in recent memory was a certain BOV member trying to take down a student’s constitutionally protected sign. A fact that Sherlock fails to comprehend.

      1. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        Nah. Burning a flag is “speech.” Cutting it down would be “speech.” The point was that the sign should not have been on the Lawn, and Ryan could have defended her right to her views, but criticized her manner of “speaking” since it violated the Lawn rules. Instead, he did his weasel thing, and she embarrassed him by taping his conversation with her.

  3. WayneS Avatar

    For example, offering a sign-language interpreter for someone who is deaf or a ramp for someone in a wheelchair are hardly radical gestures.

    Already taken care of by the ADA – a relatively long time ago.

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      Those are examples of “equity”. Ryan probably could have done better.

      1. DJRippert Avatar
        DJRippert

        Why is every example of “equity” at UVa something other than what is being done at UVa?

        Where are the specific examples of what the DEI squad is doing to achieve equity at UVa?

        This sounds more and more like a mindless exercise in virtue signaling with no real goals at all.

        1. WayneS Avatar

          Good point. It seems to me UVA should be able to give examples of new things they are doing to promote equity. They should also be able to clearly explain how these things bring about, or will bring about, equity.

          EDIT: I think they should also explain exactly why they think there is currently a lack of equity in the areas in which they are doing these new things.

          Complying with the ADA does not represent a commitment to equity. It represents a commitment to follow federal law.

          1. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            “Complying with the ADA does not represent a commitment to equity. It represents a commitment to follow federal law.” False distinction.

          2. WayneS Avatar

            Not a false distinction at all. Mr Ryan’s “equity” examples were both things that UVA has already been doing, and will continue to do, as a result of their commendable efforts to comply with the 30-year-old ADA.

            This latest equity effort is new (est. 2020). It has been in operation for more than two years, though, and if it is as great as Mr. (Dr.?) Ryan claims then he should be able to describe some new and current things UVA’s Office of DEI is doing to bring about this elusive “equity”.

          3. WayneS Avatar

            Not a false distinction at all. Mr Ryan’s “equity” examples were both things that UVA has already been doing, and will continue to do, as a result of their commendable efforts to comply with the 30-year-old ADA.

            This latest equity effort is new (Office of DEI est. 2020). It has been in operation for more than two years, though, and if it is as great as Mr. (Dr.?) Ryan claims, then he should be able to describe some new and current things UVA’s Office of DEI is doing to bring about this elusive “equity”.

          4. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Yes, and the ADA is federal law codifying the due process clause of the 14th Amendment to ensure access to public places for people with disabilities.

          5. vicnicholls Avatar
            vicnicholls

            and the # of universities that screw over the handicapped in Va? All of them. Law or not.

          6. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            That may be so.

            I have attended a couple of presentations by UVa staff showing how they have provided physical access while maintaining the historic nature of the buildings. They seem to have worked earnestly to provide access to buildings that long predate barrier free construction.

      2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        Probably chose that because “welcoming members of the transsexual community” would likely be met with shrieks of “Marxists!!” from the peanut gallery…

      3. WayneS Avatar

        Those are examples of “equity”.

        They are examples of accommodation for disabilities. In my opinion, accommodation does not need a new name.

        1. Lefty665 Avatar
          Lefty665

          Exactly! Physical accommodation under the ADA has nothing to do with “equity”. It is a question of misrepresentation, or inexcusable ignorance, not “could have done better”.

      4. WayneS Avatar

        A thing cannot be defined by providing examples. Examples come about after the thing has been defined.

        As far as I know Mr. Ryan still has not defined what equity means at UVA.

        1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          He has made an attempt. See the link.

          “A more accurate and appropriate definition of equity is an effort to ensure equal opportunity, not equal results.”

          Yet what they measure is equal results.

          1. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Someone get these individuals a thesaurus, it would do them a host of good.

          2. WayneS Avatar

            If “equity” is defined as making efforts to assure equal opportunity, then why do we need the relatively new term (as it is currently being used) “equity” at all? We’ve been striving to provide equal opportunity for decades.

          3. WayneS Avatar

            If “equity” is defined as making efforts to assure equal opportunity, then why do we need the relatively new term (as it is currently being used) “equity” at all? We’ve been striving to provide equal opportunity for decades.

        2. Matt Adams Avatar
          Matt Adams

          If you clearly define the task, conditions and standards. You can’t apply them vaguely as the wind blows.

    2. Lefty665 Avatar
      Lefty665

      The ADA is more than 30 years old, so a reasonably long time ago indeed.

      Ryan is on thin ice using examples of ADA accommodation for physical disabilities in the law to justify “equity”. The D in ADA is disability, and its accommodations are to provide equal access to public places for people with disabilities.

      His implication is that providing “equity” is because the people he is advocating for are “disabled”, but not physically as in mobility impaired or deaf. We call those people with “intellectual disabilities”. You know, people we used to term as “mentally retarded”, or emotionally disturbed.

      Does Ryan really want to go there? Or is he just an old time you know what who believes some groups of people are not intellectually able?

      1. Matt Adams Avatar
        Matt Adams

        Heckfire, they even updated (2008) the ADA just before UVa instituted its DEI program.

  4. DJRippert Avatar
    DJRippert

    The DEI organization at UVa has been in place for 18 years. During that period, the percentage of Blacks enrolled as undergraduates has gone down. At least, that’s what I am told.

    Why would anybody expand an organization that is failing?

    Diversity at UVa (in regard to Black undergraduate enrollment) was better off before DEI.

    What’s the new plan? Just throw more people and money at the problem an hope for success?

    Terrible management.

    Where is the measurable plan for success of the expanded DEI program? There is no such plan?

    Terrible management.

    Where is the board demanding a plan that commits to improvement? There is no such demand?

    Terrible oversight.

  5. Lefty665 Avatar
    Lefty665

    Mr. Ryan has tried to morph equity into equality. While it is not UVa, here is from Fairfax County Public Schools guidance to help people who are confused understand the difference between equity and equality. Perhaps it could help Mr. Ryan rectify his confusion.

    The presentation notes specifically that “one must explicitly teach the difference between equality and equity” because the individual may not be familiar with it.”

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/96063249ccc652f56656d3857e9693f6d71b73e9abfac2e6343b158e70cf64de.jpg

    and

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/badcf0093d2f41397f999c4052490474f084a51afe76f625e2652e193f9dec09.jpg

    Here’s the article it comes from. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/fairness-justice/fairfax-trained-teachers-disregard-objections-equity-grading

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