UVa Law Rejects U.S. News Ranking Methodology

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by James A. Bacon

The University of Virginia School of Law has announced that it will no longer cooperate with U.S. News & World Report in compiling its ranking of top law schools. The school currently ranks No. 8 in the country.

Here’s the reason given by Dean Risa Goluboff: “As they currently stand, the U.S. News rankings fail to capture much of what we value at UVA — facilitating access to legal education and the legal profession for students from every background; fostering the free exchange of ideas within a community of joy, humanity, and trust; providing top-notch teaching by accomplished faculty; supporting public service; and launching our graduates into the stellar career paths of their choosing.”

I’ll leave it to others to comment upon the law school’s commitment to “fostering the free exchange of ideas” and probe the meaning of the modifier that such an exchange should take place “within a community of joy, humanity, and trust.”

I’ll focus instead on Goluboff’s commitment to facilitating access to legal education for students “from every background.”

UVA Today, the mouthpiece of the Ryan administration, highlighted UVa Law’s ranking as the No. 1 law school at a public university as recently as March. What changed? It appears that UVa Law and dozens of other law schools are, lemming-like, following the lead of Yale and Harvard in their criticism of U.S. News’s “flawed” methodology. That methodology, which considers reputation among peers and judges, bar-exam pass rates, and success in placing graduates, among other factors, gives insufficient weight to schools that admit low-income students and emphasize careers in “public service.”

What Goluboff values in a student’s background can be discerned in a web page, “What Prospective Students Should Know About UVA Law,” which details the school’s “student characteristics.”

  • 50% women, 49% men, 1% non-binary;
  • 40% identifying as “people of color,” a figure that pointedly includes students of Middle Eastern descent, even though they are classified as Caucasian by the American Bar Association;
  • 16% identifying as LGBT;
  • Students from 38 states and D.C. plus eight foreign countries.

In other words, UVa Law is dedicated to recruiting a demographically diverse student body, as broken down by race, sexual orientation, gender — the social-justice trifecta — with a nod to geography. Pumping up the number of “people of color” is deemed so important that Middle Easterners, who are more closely related genetically to Europeans than South Asians, East Asians or Africans, are given honorary “people of color” designation.

However, UVa does not publish “diversity” data along other dimensions such as urban, suburban or rural; or religious affiliation, such as Catholic, evangelical Protestant, or Orthodox Jew; or by partisan political affiliation. In other words, some types of “diversity” are valued far more than others.

One can read Goluboff’s “Statement of Diversity, Equity and Belonging” on the law school website without encountering any mention of “intellectual” diversity or “worldview” diversity. Rather, her definition is driven by social-justice considerations. Here are some excerpts (my bold face):

Diversity, equity, and belonging are values fundamental to the University of Virginia School of Law community….

A commitment to making our society a more just and equal one has been the abiding mission of my professional life. As a scholar, I have spent much of my career studying the pernicious effects of discrimination, cultural isolation, and political polarization. What I have learned has made me deeply committed to diversity not as some abstract concept but as a way of life….

Our institution, like our nation, was born in contradiction — between the reality of slavery and the aspirations of democracy and service. We must continue to reckon with the legacy of slavery that has been part of our history since our 1819 founding, as well as the segregation and discrimination that followed. We also must continue to redefine what those founding aspirations mean for our own time. We bring those aspirations closer to reality striving to create a diverse community of students, faculty, and staff that ensures the belonging, thriving, and success of every member.

Sexual orientation and gender identity are not demographic traits that higher-ed institutions traditionally have collected. But it appears that UVa Law does gather the data, otherwise it could not report that 16% of its student body identifies as LGBT. By contrast, there is no indication on the website that UVa collects data that would lend insight into the partisan and worldview diversity of its students. The absence of such data suggests that UVa Law places little value on those characteristics.

Ironically, while Goluboff decries the effects of “cultural isolation and political polarization,” her rhetoric suggests that she is intent upon admitting a student body aligned with the ideological monoculture created by the faculty she has recruited. While some might think that viewpoint diversity is critical for a school that trains professionals to engage in contests of legal interpretation on behalf of a wide range of clients, her rejection of the U.S. News‘ ranking methodology says she thinks otherwise.


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56 responses to “UVa Law Rejects U.S. News Ranking Methodology”

  1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    What about her comments ”

    suggests that she is intent upon admitting a student body aligned with
    the ideological monoculture created by the faculty she has recruited”? (Assuming only for the sake of argument that she has recruited a faculty aligned with an ideological monoculture.)

    Also, how would ensure applicants’”intellectual’ diversity or “worldview” diversity? Ask them about their parents’ or their political affiliations?

  2. Just spitballing here, but I thought that real lawyers try, I dunno, to identify priorities, to speak and write clearly (for example, define terms), to specifically cite precedent and evidence, and to propose concrete solutions. UVA Law Dean Risa Goluboff, however, perhaps in defending the indefensible, doesn’t do this. Rather, she sounds like a comic character out of Jane Austen, Anthony Trollope, Oscar Wilde, P.G. Woodhouse, or Rumpole of the Bailey — without the fun.
    Nowhere in her one-page statement of mission and values are the words Constitution, learning, professionalism, competence, or skill (or reasonable hourly rates). But it makes assertions that are firm even as they lack clarity. “Belonging,” for example, whatever that means, is a “value.” And whatever that is, it is “fundamental.” So, UVA Law seeks to bring justice across differences to “the globe,” to “advance justice in the world.” I can’t tell you how grateful I am. Aren’t you?

    1. Do you know why those items aren’t listed? Because they’re requirements for any going to law school and taking the bar. No one is debating that…they’re debating the utility of rankings.

      1. You’re saying that a law school’s valuing the Constitution, competence, profession-
        lism etc. goes without saying; that’s why the Dean’s statement doesn’t bother. Your positive approach is admirable. I wish the evidence supported it.

        1. Look at the curriculum and the bar passage rate. The evidence is there.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani are both lawyers who graduated from top tier law schools and went on to become highly skilled lawyers.

            Right?

            😉

          2. Add Jeff Clark and Eastman to that list…But I will say that despite the efforts of certain lawyers to unconstitutionally overturn the last election, lawyers for the most part did their utmost to defend the constitution. Barr, Luttig, Rosen, Cippolini, most of the DOJ, etc. By contrast, Clark, Guilliani, Eastman and the rest will also be disbarred and likely face indictments and jail time. In other words, lawyers acquitted themselves remarkably well and did the thing they swore to do–uphold and defend the constitution. So I find it a tad ironic that some conservatives lament the decline of curriculums in law school…the curriculum works well…as proven by 2020 failed coup attempt. The folks who really need to focus on the constitution and its meaning are Republicans themselves.

  3. Ruckweiler Avatar

    Can’t be judged and ranked by how effective your law school is in education, oh, no! DIE and homosexual student participation are more important. Insanity.

  4. DJRippert Avatar

    I see two explanations:

    1. This is a continuation of the educational trend to avoid accountability. SOLs too low? Drop the cut rate. SATs limiting a university’s ability to chose who to admit? De-emphasize / drop / make optional the taking of that standardized test.

    2. Wokeness. UVa wants to make law school admissions another adventure in wokeism. However, the USN&WR will lower their ratings if they don’t take the most qualified applicants. So, stop participating in the USN&WR ratings and voila … the problem goes away.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      UVA and other law schools disagree with the criteria that US NEws uses in their ratings.

      Schools are also dropping the SAT.

      So they no longer are using academic rankings to grant admission.

      Is there a legal requirement for them to do so?

      1. Randy Huffman Avatar
        Randy Huffman

        No, but it dilutes the value of the degree.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          in the opinion of?

          everyone?

          what are the “values” of the Law degree? best grades?

          1. Randy Huffman Avatar
            Randy Huffman

            The only opinion that matters is who hires you, whether an employer, or clients.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            So this will not harm the UVA Law school?

          3. Value is what you do afterward. And UVa has some of the best outcomes in all U.S. legal education. That won’t change, they just won’t be slaves to the numbers anymore.

        2. It does nothing of the sort. The value of the degree is earned and maintained by the accomplishments of the alumni. The school will continue to attract and produce great talent.

          1. Randy Huffman Avatar
            Randy Huffman

            Perhaps, but over time the accomplishments will be diminished if they are not graduating the best and brightest.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            Do we know the best and brightest in the legal profession by the College they graduated from?

          3. They will continue to graduate the best and brightest. It’s a top ten law school!

    2. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      There’s a third… it costs too much for what you get.

    3. This is off. UVa, and other top ten law schools, get their pick of the litter in terms of top talent. They’ve decided they’d rather focus on qualitative traits for their incoming classes rather than quantitative. And living and dying by some stupid ranking doesn’t help that mission, either for inputs or outputs.

  5. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    Someone’s been reading Vivek Ramaswamy. Just finishing that book now.

    That law school didn’t impress me much when I was hiring lawyers 20 years ago.

    1. DJRippert Avatar

      UVa’s Law School, like much of UVa, is something of a legend in their own mind.

      It’s a good university but not really elite and not the best public university.

      1. UVa Law is elite. It’s a top ten law school. The incoming class, judged on the numbers that US News worships, are staggering.

  6. Bob X from Texas Avatar
    Bob X from Texas

    When choosing a lawyer diversity, equity, and inclusion are the characteristics least important to me. Therefore a school that prides itself on diversity, equity, and inclusion produces lawyers with the least chance of being hired. The characteristics most important for a lawyer in the commercial environment is the ability to get the deal done to the satisfaction of all involved parties. We don’t care about race, religion, sex , color or national origin.

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      How would you choose students for a law school based on their “ability to get the deal done to the satisfaction of all involved parties”?

      1. DJRippert Avatar

        By discounting lawyers from law schools that emphasize non-legal excellence under the statistical assumption that law schools that stick to teaching law are more likely to produce attorneys who will ” …get the deal done to the satisfaction of all involved parties”

        The theory would be that the further a law school strays from teaching law the more likely they are to produce less capable lawyers.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          There’s some not insignificant questions of what the LAW… IS… or should be that is beyond academic ‘excellence” IMO.

        2. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
          Dick Hall-Sizemore

          That does not answer the question. The article is all about sifting through law school applications and deciding on which students to offer admission to. You and Bob are talking about the most important characteristics for a lawyer, once graduated and out in the world. I don’t necessarily disagree with you, but I am wondering how you would use those criteria in selecting which applicants to admit to law school.

        3. Sigh….no one is talking about less legal excellence. They’re talking about soft skills and bringing more diversity into the field.

      2. Randy Huffman Avatar
        Randy Huffman

        The lawyer works for their client, period. They provide counsel to the client, and then represent the client in court or in negotiations, following of course ethical standards of conduct, that have nothing to do with DEI.

        If the client wants a DEI focused lawyer then by all means they should hire one.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          what criteria should a law school use to determine who to accept to law school?

          1. Randy Huffman Avatar
            Randy Huffman

            So my response was based on the comment on characteristics most important for a lawyer.

            Not having gone to Law school or applied for an advanced degree (I have 4 years under my belt, that’s it), I don’t even know what they ask for. But I would use a combination of grades, evaluation of the University they went to, a standardized test, recommendations (both personal and faculty) and essay. Asking several essay questions is typical, the most important one from my standpoint should revolve around ethics.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            So that’s a fair answer IMO but it’s also subjective and will vary by person. But for ethics, would you use “ethics” as a criteria for admission and/or a criteria for grading?

            I’m not even sure I’d actually agree, not that I don’t value ethics for law but other fields also but I’m not sure how you evaluate this other than from actions and reputations and you can be a highly intelligent person with significant skills and not very ethical.

        2. So let me assume you’re white. If you were a Muslim woman, would you be more comfortable with someone who looked like you and understood you? Perhaps struggled like you did, or maybe immigrated?

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            Yes. THIS is what SOME of this change from the schools is really about. You can be a darn good lawyer as a Muslim even if you’re not the ‘best’ per se.

          2. Having been a practicing lawyer for the last 16 years, let me assure you that NO ONE CARES where you went to law school after your very first job. And that at elite levels, the difference between great and very good lawyers is marginal and based more on desire, honing skills, and yes, EQ and soft skills. All things that the top law schools have the luxury of trying to develop. This is a perfectly logical move and I applaud it.

          3. Randy Huffman Avatar
            Randy Huffman

            Yes I’m white, and maybe you are correct depending on the circumstances, I can’t speak for anyone else. I have experience with communication disabilities, they don’t need the professional to have the disability, they need an interpreter.

            For me, I could care less about how the attorney looked, his or her background, etc. I have worked with people with all kinds of backgrounds.

          4. Understood and understand your opinion. Just pointing out why maybe diversity is a worthy goal for the profession.

      3. For a law school in the United States:

        1) Undergraduate grades
        2) The extent to which an understanding of logic is needed to earn the applicant’s undergraduate degree (e.g. a BS in Physics would be worth more than a BA in Underwater Basket Weaving Studies).
        3) LSAT scores
        4) Mastery of the English language, both spoken and written.

  7. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    UVA Law was first accredited in 1923 by the ABA. Every 10 years the program is subject to intense scrutiny by the ABA to retain full accreditation status. I assume that in 2023 UVA Law will undergo this exercise. Will the focus on JEDI diminish or enhance the program’s ability to meet ABA standards? It would be interesting to compare the accreditation reports from 1923 to 2023.
    https://www.americanbar.org/groups/legal_education/resources/standards/

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        You did catch the part about sound legal educational policy and standards? Do you think this is sound? Can Standard 304 be met?

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          Do you think by adding the diversity and inclusion statement it’s incompatible with “sound legal policy and standards”?

          clearly they don’t think so , right?

          1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            In the past metrics based on merit were used.
            What if the new diversity formula at UVA Law fails to produce quality candidates? What if they fail to measure up to standard 304? What measures can be taken? It is my hope that UVA Law is so good that the new diversity formula will have no negative impacts only positive.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            How would you know if they “failed to measure up”?

            silly question?

          3. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            Losing ABA accreditation status. Here is a silly question. What is white and cannot climb trees? Answer: me and you and refrigerators too!😁

  8. LarrytheG Avatar

    I think higher ed is preparing (has been for some time but now accelerating) for the SCOTUS putting the kibosh on affirmative action and now is moving to have their student body roughly represent the population demographics of the State and wider scope for students coming from out of state.

    When you also combine this with their record of graduation rates, are they making a statement that
    they WILL enroll students on factors other than pure merit and will they then provide the help and support to get such students successfully to graduation? (like perhaps they seem to do with student athletes and legacy alumni kids).

    That looks to be beyond the reach of SCOTUS but I’d suspect not of some law-makers and I predict some new proposed “laws” dealing with this and of course the usual partisan splits…

  9. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    If rich mommies and daddies can buy entry into Stanford and USC for their kids, one can only imagine what a law school would pay for 10 or 15 places. America… for sale.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      or tell a guy/gal that can play good basketball that if they play their cards right, they can get a degree from UVA?

      And here is that “belonging” word for MIT:

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b241bf8979698e9b7e2c8c3ce045e75ca595fbfc5b684bfd270762a3a55e1a03.jpg

      https://sap.mit.edu/overview/diversity-equity-and-belonging

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        The difference? MIT vs UVa? About 50 IQ points.

      2. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        The Marine Corps has been peddling that schist for decades if somebody wants a sense of “belonging”. 🙂 Tuition free!

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          Indeed, all armed services and they can make a good soldier, even a leader without requiring high academics, right?

  10. It’s interesting that they used a lemming in the photo…lemmings, as a metaphor, represent those who blindly follow the crowd. There are 199 law schools in the US. Eleven have decided to drop the US News ranking. The rest comply. Who now is the lemming?

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