Using Taxpayer Dollars… to Lobby for More Taxpayer Dollars

The Northern Virginia Transportation Authority may be broke and powerless, but that’s not stopping it from agitating for more money. In a creative, Internet-era ploy, reports a chirpy Washington Post article today, the authority is asking Northern Virginia commuters to make videos of their miserable rides and post them on its YouTube page for NoVa legislators to see. (As of 8:41 a.m., no one had posted any videos yet.)

As Eric Weiss explains: “The YouTube effort is part of an Internet-based lobbying campaign by NVTA to regain its money and clout after the Virginia Supreme Court recently ruled that its taxing power was unconstitutional. The main reason NVTA members are turning to the Internet is because it’s free.”

But the NVTA must not be entirely broke. At the very least, from what I can deduce from its website, the authority has enough money to support an executive director, hold meetings, maintain a website and pen public policy statements. And it’s using that money, which comes directly or indirectly from taxpayers, to agitate for more tax money. Here’s the NVTA message to commuters:

Virginia’s General Assembly needs to take action now! Contact your representative and ask them to implement the NVTA taxes and fees and enact a statewide transportation plan that meets the needs of Northern Virginia and the Commonwealth.

The NVTA lists “eight principles” to guide Northern Virginia transportation solutions here. The principles can be summarized succinctly as demanding “mo’ money” to build more road and rail capacity in Northern Virginia at both the local and regional levels. Without saying so explicitly, the NVTA is pushing for more money for itself.

Does anyone else have a problem with a quasi-state entity like the NVTA using taxpayer dollars to agitate for… more taxpayer dollars? It’s one thing for the elected officials who comprise the membership of the organization to lobby for particular transportation solutions, but it’s another for a taxpayer-funded organization to engage in such advocacy itself. The Business-As-Usual viewpoint already dominates the Mainstream Media, and the Axis of Taxes already enjoys a huge fund-raising advantage over taxpayers and environmentalists in the growth-management controversy. The NVTA initiative is just piling on.

I will defend the rights of home builders, road contractors and other special interests to spend their own money to advance their agendas in Richmond — the U.S. Constitution guarantees the rights “of the people peaceably to assembly, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.” But I have a big problem — a very big problem — when advocacy groups co-opt tax dollars to promote their causes.

This cute little YouTube initiative needs to end now.

Update: John Mason, the NVTA executive director, defends the YouTube initiative as follows:

With respect to the premise underlying your comments on NVTA advocacy, Virginia Code (§15.2-4840) specifically authorizes the NVTA to serve as “an advocate of the transportation needs of Northern Virginia before state and federal governments”. Our approach is based on using YouTube, which is free. We are simply facilitating communication between citizens and their legislative policymakers.


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  1. Larry Gross Avatar
    Larry Gross

    ….”I will defend the rights of home builders, road contractors and other special interests to spend their own money to advance their agendas in Richmond”

    do you have a problem with those private companies incorporating the cost of lobbying into what they charge you for goods and services and the government letting them write it off as a “business expense”?

  2. Jim Bacon Avatar
    Jim Bacon

    Interesting question…. I am open to hearing the pros and cons.

  3. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    As I recall, the Federal Income Tax Code prohibits the deduction of expenses incurred in lobbying either state or federal government. I suspect, without knowing, that Virginia adopted a conforming amendment to its tax law.

    Whether companies can mark-up their prices to recover those costs is another issue. I suspect today that many builders would be darn lucky to recover their capital investments. Some may be sucking up the overhead costs and hoping for better days.

    TMT

  4. Larry Gross Avatar
    Larry Gross

    who was the last company or person charged with violating the IRS rules on writing off lobbying expenses?

    where exactly, on the IRS paperwork does it have a column that says: “lobbying expenses” next to words that say “Must be Reported” and “Not Deductible”.

    If you had such a column – I would posit that quite a few folks would end up in trouble if their answer was ‘zero” and then found to be otherwise.

    For instance, a lobbyist should have to state..whether or not they are a registered lobbyist how many hours a week they lobby and who pays them.

    I wonder .. how many folks who lobby.. actually say that in the column at the bottom that says “occupation”.

    I agree with the original question about taxpayer-funded entities using taxpayer monies to lobby…

    In fact.. I think that ANY money used in lobbying is, in my mind, little different than campaign contributions and just like with campaign contributions being “laundered” through various front organizations.. I strongly suspect that lobbying is no different.

    and all of it.. corrodes honest and responsible government…

  5. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    Lobbying expenses are not deductible as a business expense at either the federal or state level. If you join a group like the Chamber of Commerce, only that portion of your dues NOT spent on lobbying is allowed as a deduction.

    That said, of course the cost is passed along in prices if at all possible.

    The question before the bar is all the government entities who directly spend your tax dollars lobbying for more tax dollars. That’s a real problem. Parking at the Capitol and space in the committee rooms would be a whole lot easier to find if all the state and local government employees were back at their desks, and none of the private lobbyists had government contracts. Put in a bill on pay or benefits for deputies or county treasurers, and watch the hallways fill.

    Some private companies are indeed lobbying for mo’ money for their pet projects, or for some competitive advantage, but some are lobbying to keep their costs down. If they succeed in that third mission, the customers should also see some benefit.

  6. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    “For instance, a lobbyist should have to state..whether or not they are a registered lobbyist how many hours a week they lobby and who pays them.

    I wonder .. how many folks who lobby.. actually say that in the column at the bottom that says “occupation”.”

    I am a registered lobbyist. You can look up my name and all the clients or employers I’ve had over the years in numerous ways, because I file annual state reports. How many hours I work and how much I make is none of your business, but who I work for is on the public record.

    I have put the word lobbyist in that line on my tax forms. When I was self employed, as I recall, there was no code for that so I used the general consultant code number where I had to put a code number, but the word I used was always lobbyist.

    Under Virginia law, anyone who expends more than $500 or anyone who has lobbying as part of their regular job duties has to register. But thankfully the average citizen who wants to talk to their legislator does not have to.

    Virginia’s reporting system is actually laughably lax, but who is registed and who they are working for is easy to find — easier here than in many states.

  7. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    Oh man, not long ago I had the perfect video. A buck and his harem of does crossed in front of me and then skipped down the intersecting fence line, jumping back and forth over the fence follow the leader fashion.

    Just at that time the radio ws playing the overture to the Chyarge of the Light Brigade.

    Maybe that isnt’t the kind of commute video they had in mind.

    RH

  8. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    I heard this morning that $1.5 billion for
    etro is being held up by the representative from Oklahoma.

    He doesn’t seem too think his constituents (who earn half of what NOVA residents earn), should have to pay NOVA’s transportation costs, or even part of them.

    RH

  9. I love how the Eight Principles invite people to sign an online petition. I just checked: four signatures. Ha.
    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/8principles/signatures.html
    (I don’t really see this as “mo money for roads” It’s more like “mo money” for trains and buses)

    Anyhow, Texas has a nifty law on public lobbying that activists are currently using to sue TxDOT for taxpayer financed lobbying to get federal earmarks. TxDOT’s defense is that the code only refers to taxpayer funded lobbying of state legislators. A ban on both federal and state lobbying with tax dollars would get my vote.

    “A state agency may not use appropriated money to employ, as a regular full-time or part-time or contract employee, a person who is required by Chapter 305 to register as a lobbyist.” TX Code 556.005.

  10. Larry Gross Avatar
    Larry Gross

    I’d settle for this:

    A law that says every contact from a lobbyist must be reported within 24 hours such that it can be queried online.

    No exceptions.

    Whether it be from businesses, non-profits, environmental organizations, citizens and “government” lobbyists.

    Full disclosure.

    The website would be like VPAP.

    You could see what lobbyists talked to what GA members/staff … or search by industry or by date etc.

    If we can’t stop the money and the contacts.. at least have full and timely disclosures of money and contacts.

    and yes.. I agree that it is absurd to have government employees lobbying for funding and programs.

    We get it every year from our School Board.

  11. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    I’m surprised you didn’t mention the Other post article. The one about the website where you can compare the combined costs of housing and transportation.

    Where is the special interest group who is out there lobbying for planning which supports the lowest combined cost?

    RH

  12. Groveton Avatar

    People employed by the government should not lobby for more tax money for their pet projects.

    Jim – Have you ever seen Mr. Smith Goes to Washington? I think it’s time for an update – Mr. Bacon Goes to Washington. You’ll see an amazing thing – lots of military officers in and around Capitol Hill. And Congressmen and Congresswomen at the Pentagon.

    What could they be talking about?

    New aircraft carriers?
    New submarines?
    More troops?
    Better housing for soldiers?

  13. Jim Bacon Avatar
    Jim Bacon

    Mr. Bacon has already been to Richmond and found that depressing enough. Going to Washington would induce a complete mental breakdown.

  14. Danny L. Newton Avatar
    Danny L. Newton

    pick out what they instinctively believe in the first place which negates the whole concept of trying to live a rational life. Lobbying has no further power to improve the legal product produced at the legislature, any legislature, because the scope of intervention only gets bigger each year.

  15. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    “But I have a big problem — a very big problem — when advocacy groups co-opt tax dollars to promote their causes.”

    Hmmm…can anyone say Virginia Perfroming Arts FOundation? Center Stage? Richmond downtown arts center?

  16. Larry Gross Avatar
    Larry Gross

    Well.. we just had our annual county budget showdown…..(public hearing)..

    By FAR.. the teachers, deputies, EMS, and other taxpayer funded agencies had the most speakers… 8 or 9 to 1 over the citizen/taxpayers who pay the tab.

    The message was the same. “We work very hard and we give very good service and if you “cut” our funding (govt-speak for not increasing as much as we want)… really bad stuff will happen.

    schools will shrivel up … crimes will occur without deputies available.. homes will burn.. etc, etc….

    Without missing a beat – the dialog was along the lines that the BOS and citizens simply do not understand what their tax dollars are being spent on…

    And that’s what most lobbyists.. do.. whether they be business worried about laws and regs or VDOT or the Dept of Corrections or Universities or the Chesapeake Bay folks or even the Mental Health agencies.

    All of them believe that it is very important for the decision-makers to know what it is they do and the value of that to Virginia citizens.

    Do we think it is perhaps okay for VDOT and UVA to “lobby” but not the Virginia Perfroming Arts FOundation or Chesapeak Bay Foundation?

    or should absolutely positively NO publically-funded agency …lobby?

    Would you, for instance, forbid VDOT to talk to GA members directly?

  17. Groveton Avatar

    Special interest groups are killing the United States by coopting the government. Their murder weapon is lobbying.

    This problem is so bad that I might CONSIDER voting for John McCain. He seems to be the only leading candidate who actually cares about curtailing the influence of special interests on government.

    “A law that says every contact from a lobbyist must be reported within 24 hours such that it can be queried online.”.

    A great idea.

  18. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    I’m pretty close to where Larry and Groveton are. The current set of rules for lobbyists are destroying the United States, the separate states and their subdivisions.

    The problem is not interested parties contacting government officials and advocating their positions. Everyone should be able to do this. I’ve done it; do it; and will continue to do it.

    But the problem is that most lobbying is done in “darkness.” I vote for Larry’s proposal.

    “A person who makes a written presentation to an elected or appointed official shall, no later than the next business day after the presentation, submit two copies of the presentation to the [appropriate office of the General Assembly, Governor’s office, state agency, etc.] or file such presentation electronically for inclusion in the public record.”

    “A person who makes an oral presentation subject to an elected or appointed official shall, no later than the next business day after the presentation, submit an original and one copy of a memorandum which summarizes the new data or arguments made. Such filing, which can be made electronically, shall be submitted to [appropriate office of the General Assembly, Governor’s office, state agency, etc.] for inclusion in the public record.”

    The same process would work for Congress or your local board of supervisors.

    TMT

  19. In case you’re wondering what a world of full disclosure of lobbying might look at, check out what the FCC does:
    FCC meetings list

    If you know what you’re doing, you can download PDFs of memos explaining what was discussed in every single meeting in the list above. Does this extensive disclosure limit the effect of lobbying at this agency?

    Nope.

    As long as people have human motives, they’ll sell out policy goals for future jobs in industry. You can’t get around that, even if you outlaw lobbying. Outlawing lawyers might get you closer to the goal…

  20. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    Does anyone believe the purpose of creating all-appointed regional taxing authorities is for some other purpose than lobbying for more tax funds?

    -Reid Greenmun

  21. Larry Gross Avatar
    Larry Gross

    …”As long as people have human motives,”

    agree… but our government is close to being essentially run by lobbyists…whose goal is to protect and enrich business interests that are not necessarily in the public interest.

    When we find out that new legislation is, in fact, being written by representatives from the industry that is affected by it AND we have elected representatives taking secret, unrecorded votes that favor the same businesses….

    we have a government that is not representing the interests of citizens.

    We can’t outlaw this but we can put a whole lot more sunshine on it

    we need to fully identify any and all of the elected officials who participate in these kinds of shenanigans and let voters decide if that kind of behavior from an elected official is acceptable to them.

    and we need to have a one-stop information resource like VPAP – Virginia Public Access Project to keep tabs on all elected and all lobbyists and all contributors of money.

  22. Groveton Avatar

    “Mr. Bacon has already been to Richmond and found that depressing enough. Going to Washington would induce a complete mental breakdown.”.

    Jim – you were born in Washington.

  23. Jim Bacon Avatar
    Jim Bacon

    Yes, I grew up in Washington — and left the first chance I got!

  24. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    “…the authority has enough money to support an executive director, hold meetings, maintain a website and pen public policy statements.”

    HB3202 included a small amount of “startup” funding for the NVTA. And yes, that theoretically pays the Executive Director’s salary. But the rest of the work that is done by the NVTA is largely accomplished through the voluntary efforts of its “staff,” borrowed from other agencies, and the work of the appointed officials. This is not a high dollar operation.

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