Two “Day One” Proposals Fail

by Dick Hall-Sizemore

Glenn Youngkin is quickly learning that being governor is not like being CEO of a large corporation. Just because the guy at the top wants something done does not mean that it will be done.

One of Youngkin’s campaign promises was to require local governments to have a referendum before they could approve a real property tax rate after a reassessment that would result in more than a one percent increase in property tax revenues. Under current law, the local government must have a separate public hearing only if it does not propose to reduce the rate to a level that would produce an increase of no more than one percent in the property tax revenues.

The Senate bill that would have implemented this promise, SB 620,  Cosgrove, R-Chesapeake, was killed by the Senate Finance Committee on a 12-4 vote. The House counterpart, HB 1010, Durant, R-Stafford, had a different story.

It passed the House as a substitute. The substitute bill was significantly different from the original bill. It would require that, if a locality were going to have the public hearing required because of an increase in assessments and the governing body indicated that it did not intend to “equalize” the tax rate, the advertisement of the public hearing had to be published on a different day and in a different notice than the notice for the required public hearing on the budget.

This was an innocuous requirement. Yet, the bill was reported out of the Finance Committee by a 11-10 vote and passed by the full House by a vote of 53-46. In both cases, Democrats cast all the “no” votes. The average citizen or causal observer could be forgiven for wondering why Democrats opposed such innocuous legislation. At the most, they may wonder why the Democrats were not content that the bill had been watered down from its original form, which they strongly opposed, to something that was harmless. Why not give a freshman delegate a win, even though the bill in its substitute form was largely meaningless?

The answer reveals two lessons: 1. To understand most of what happens at the legislature, one needs to be there; and 2. Even if one is there, one needs to be cognizant of legislative strategies.

The administration made several mistakes with this bill. First, the bill sat on the House Finance Committee docket for almost a month with no action being taken, not even referral to subcommittee. To veterans in and around the legislature, that is a sign of trouble. Then, the chair of the Finance Committee called a special meeting of the committee, after the committee had supposedly finished its docket in the run-up to the deadline for committees to act on House bills, for the sole purpose of taking up this bill. The antennae of Democrats very likely went up at this development. The bill’s patron presented the bland substitute, which many members and lobbyists were seeing for the first time.  Appearing in support of the bill was Matt Moran, special advisor to Governor Youngkin. Moran said that the bill was a priority for the governor.

The Democrats were on high alert and openly skeptical of the patron’s claim that the bill was needed to bring more transparency to the process by requiring separate notice of the tax rate public hearing rather than “burying” that announcement in the notice of the general hearing on the budget. Behind this skepticism was the legislative notion of a “vehicle,” which is a bill that can be amended later to incorporate a proposal that had met opposition earlier. The amendment can take the form of rewriting the current bill completely or “tacking on” a related proposal. In any event, the amendment cannot be unrelated to the original subject of the bill. In keeping with the constitutional requirement that “no law shall embrace more than one object,” in legislative parlance, any amendment must be “germane.”

Addressing the question directly, Delegate Vivian Watts, D-Fairfax, asked if any future amendment returning to the referendum question would be germane.  Delegatge Robert Orrock, R-Caroline, the Republicans’ unofficial expert on the rules, replied that germaneness relates to the original bill; therefore, there could be floor amendments on the question of a referendum. Delegate Sally Hudson D-Charlottesville, with somewhat of a straight face, expressed her perplexity that this substitute bill could be a priority of the Governor.

There is another saying around the legislature: even if a bill does not seem dangerous on its face, “When you see a snake, kill it.” The Democrats saw this bill as a vehicle to ultimately get the Governor’s proposal onto the Senate floor. They saw it as a snake and tried to kill it. They just did not have the votes in the House.

Democrats in the Senate had the same reaction to the bill. On Tuesday, when the bill was being considered in Senate Finance, the Richmond Times-Dispatch reports that Senator Creigh Deeds, D-Bath, asked, somewhat rhetorically, “So, a referendum could be added back to this bill, I guess, before it gets to where it needs to go?” The committee then proceeded to kill the bill on a vote of 9-6. Later, it agreed to reconsider its vote. After Charles Kennington, Deputy Secretary of Finance, assured the committee, “The governor does not intend to pursue any amendments to the bill as it is in its current form,” the committee voted unanimously to report the substitute bill.

The other “Day One” item that is dead is Youngkin’s proposal to prohibit schools from teaching “inherently divisive concepts.” A Senate committee killed SB 570, Kiggans, R-Virginia Beach, which would have implemented the proposal. Its House counterpart, HB 1068 (Cordoza, R-Hampton), was never taken up in the Republican-majority House Education Committee. Finally, as reported by the Richmond-Times Dispatch, neither the Republican budget bill in the House nor the Democratic budget bill in the Senate includes the budget language requested by the governor that would have enacted this prohibition.


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31 responses to “Two “Day One” Proposals Fail”

  1. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Perhaps he needs a co-Governor?

  2. At least the GA recognizes that inherently divisive concepts is itself divisive. Why is Youngkin afraid of honest teaching of history which does not make students feel like victims or oppressors?

  3. LarrytheG Avatar

    One of your better columns IMHO and all I’ve seen so far are pretty good.

  4. LarrytheG Avatar

    Well, I still insist that local voters can hold local elected accountable on taxes and tax increases, and that did happen in my county a few years back. A brouhaha over increased tax rates and several candidates made “no-tax” promises and “equalized rates after assessments”.. and were elected and proceeded to honor their promises – mostly. They held the line on real estate rates but did not on personal property taxes on cars.

    The schools, not once, got all they asked for and some years pretty lean.

    Just got notice of new assessments a bit ago and yep…. bad news… if they don’t hold the line again on equalization. Even then, equalization ends up with winners and losers because not all properties gain value at the same percent.

    I have to say. For as long as I can remember, Conservatives have held up local govt closest to the people as a standard and directives and unfunded mandates from Richmond as evil incarnate.

    Now, Conservatives seem to want Richmond to make sure the local govts are held in check because they “don’t listen” while … Richmond does?

    Alice in Wonderland logic, eh?

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      It’s a Dillon Rule state. The local governments are creatures of the General Assembly. They have only that authority delegated by Constitution, Code or Act of Assembly.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        I support the framework for Dillion to have statewide laws and regulations, etc, and for instance the requirement to perform standardized Comprehensive Financial Accounting that the APC maintains but local governance, within that framework to include holding local govt accountable for it’s decisions and taxation and spending. The Gilmore car tax idiocy blew that up and this is similar IMHO. We do NOT want Richmond deciding local issues , taxation and spending. It’s really autocratic anti-democratic iMHO. And again, I’m surprised that DJR has gone wobbly on this.

  5. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    That local real estate tax referendum idea was dead five seconds after it appeared in a campaign press release. But being his polite supporter and a campaign donor I merely hinted that local opposition might be….an issue. They killed it, local governments, not the Democrats. The substitute which appeared had all the substance of a Russian peace promise.

    The explosion in local taxes that is becoming evident, however, means I’d rather have recorded and aye than a nay even on the substitute. A bit of doggerel just hangs with me these days. Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall. Humpty Dumpty had a great fall….

    Oh, and as to your other point, remember HB 787? That is also a bill dealing with “divisive concepts” in school curricula and it passed the House, so to ignore that and focus on the other bill is patently unfair. It TOO will die in the Senate but hasn’t yet. I can’t believe anybody thought that was appropriate for the budget. The RGGI amendment I tagged earlier seems to have disappeared (but could reappear in conference I fear.)

    https://www.baconsrebellion.com/ten-things-democrats-want-taught-in-schools/#disqus_thread

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      Local governments seldom carry a lot of weight in the GA.

      The explosion in assessments and the resultant tax increases should underscore the problem with heavy reliance on the property tax by local governments. Perhaps that would spur the GA to consider allowing localities to piggy-back on the state income tax, thereby reducing, or almost eliminating reliance on property taxes. But, I am not holding my breath.

      1. Local governments seldom carry a lot of weight in the GA.

        They do when they form themselves into medium to large-sized gangs… I mean, groups.

  6. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    “Local governments seldom carry a lot of weight in the GA.” OMG you really have no idea about the place. The jobs you held really didn’t teach you much about who swings the big bats down there. You never had to fight a bill through against opposition. VACO and VML are hugely powerful, Dick. And it was obvious that idea would enrage them, local electeds of both parties. They would be joined by all the employee groups, teachers, fire fighters, cops.

    And like many, often Democrats, you have a really unrealistic idea of the life of a CEO and the challenges of getting a corporate bureaucracy to change direction or vision or straighten up its act. Very much a political skill set. I closely watched somebody very good at it, Mike Petters at the shipyard. Met others in my time at the VA Chamber.

    1. Matt Adams Avatar

      “State of Virginia records show Richard Hall-Sizemore held one job from 2016 to 2019. One of the most recent records in 2019 lists a job of Policy Planning Specialist 3 and a pay of $105,355. This is 86.3 percent higher than the average pay for co-workers and 59.8 percent higher than the national average for government employees.

      https://openpayrolls.com/employee/richard-hall-sizemore-9584

      1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
        Dick Hall-Sizemore

        I am not sure how that is applicable to the post. But, if you are questioning my credentials, here is my employment history:
        Division of Legislative Services–8 years
        Lobbyist for Spotsylvania Co.- 3 years
        Virginia Assoc. of Counties–3 years
        Commission on Local Government–2 years
        Dept. of Criminal Justice Services–2.5 years
        Dept. of Planning and Budget–27 years. Ending position: Senior Analyst and Capital Coordinator

        1. Matt Adams Avatar

          “Dick Hall-Sizemore Matt Adams • an hour ago
          I am not sure how that is applicable to the post. But, if you are questioning my credentials, here is my employment history:
          Division of Legislative Services–8 years
          Lobbyist for Spotsylvania Co.- 3 years
          Virginia Assoc. of Counties–3 years
          Commission on Local Government–2 years
          Dept. of Criminal Justice Services–2.5 years
          Dept. of Planning and Budget–27 years. Ending position: Senior Analyst and Capital Coordinator”

          It means you’re a bureaucrat who lectures other on inequality while being paid better than your peers. Also, that you’ve been paid by Virginia taxes your entire working career and therefore were a good little, yes man.

        2. Matt Adams Avatar

          “Dick Hall-Sizemore Matt Adams • an hour ago
          I am not sure how that is applicable to the post. But, if you are questioning my credentials, here is my employment history:
          Division of Legislative Services–8 years
          Lobbyist for Spotsylvania Co.- 3 years
          Virginia Assoc. of Counties–3 years
          Commission on Local Government–2 years
          Dept. of Criminal Justice Services–2.5 years
          Dept. of Planning and Budget–27 years. Ending position: Senior Analyst and Capital Coordinator”

          It means you’re a bureaucrat who lectures other on inequality while being paid better than your peers. Also, that you’ve been paid by Virginia taxes your entire working career and therefore were a good little, yes man.

        3. LarrytheG Avatar

          I would not be bothered by this guy Dick. He has a history of impugning others personally.

    2. vicnicholls Avatar
      vicnicholls

      VML is one thing most folks haven’t heard of unless you have been around the halls. Petters was a great guy. There were several of that genre at the lower levels. Some of them were very popular – one who had a car that cost 2 years salary for most people would drive it in now and then so the guys could talk cars and rib him on getting it past his wife.

    3. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      I concede that I have little experience of the life of a CEO. The analogy was probably a little stretched.

      As for the power of local governments, I have watched and participated in battles between local governments and developers over the power to control growth. Local governments inevitably lost. I watched Wiley Mitchell make eloquent speeches in support of local governments, only, in the end, to be on the losing side. I fought for counties to have taxing powers equal to those of cities–it finally happened 35 years later. Recently, VACO opposed providing local government employees the right to collectively bargain. We all know how that turned out. The local government committees in the GA are among the least sought after. There have been times when the minority party in the Senate held a majority of the seats on its Local Government Committee. Such is the power of local governments.

      1. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        Put in a bill dealing with the machinery and tools tax and watch the fun. Sorry, I disagree, they have a very strong lobby and the strongest asset in their favor are all the former local officials who move up to the GA (Norment, Ware, Hanger, on and on.) They crushed this idea so completely the GOP put out the substitute on its own, caved right off the bat.

  7. vicnicholls Avatar
    vicnicholls

    So Dick you would have us believe that no one states a platform and then tries to get it thru?
    I FOIA’ed a # of the Senators and asked questions. I’ll be asking more. Only one or two have actually gotten back to me and only one had propaganda as a basis for their vote. So in other words, rather than checking the “science” that they’ve been screaming about COVID we obey, they don’t use it for anything else.
    Second, as someone who has been there, there is more to the story than what you indicate for one of your examples.
    Third, the only time the D’s got specific was on R legislation they wanted to hang. The rest of the time they hide behind no answer.
    Stopping the divisive concepts bill will bite them in the butt. That is exactly what Youngkin was elected over and more and more we’re seeing folks that show teaching a lot of word salad is NOT helping the mental or academic health of students. Actually it is helping to bring down the achievements made by the minority community.

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      It seems that the Republicans in the House were not too crazy about the “divisive concepts” proposal, either. They did not even take the bill up in committee and did not include the language in their version of the budget bill, although the governor had explicitly asked them to do so.

      1. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        OMG, Dick, I repeat: They instead passed HB 787, same basic idea. No need to pass both. It will die in the Senate but the House did pass it. At this point you are being deliberately dishonest.

        1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
          Dick Hall-Sizemore

          I overlooked HB 787, so I will plead guilty to negligence, but I assure you that it was not deliberate.

          We can quibble over whether the two are the same. HB 787 did not contain Youngkin’s key phrase “inherently divisive concepts”. But, you are correct in that the components of the definition of “divisive concepts” are there.

          1. Stephen Haner Avatar
            Stephen Haner

            And by removing that vague and unenforceable phrase, but sticking with the key and specific components, it became a better bill. But it was in line with the Governor’s position and you were incorrect to claim the House had left the idea high and dry. If you say an oversight (after I wrote a big post about it), okay. Hey, I don’t like this micromanaging of curriculum in the code any better than you do.

        2. LarrytheG Avatar

          see how personal attack stuff works in BR, Dick?

          I got the impression also that no all GOP was comfortable with that “divisive” stuff.

          And i don’t think it is dishonest to make that point.

          Some folks seem to think that a majority of Virginians don’t want to teach real history and would like to see teachers “reported”.

          I’m of the view that most Virginians DON’T like that idea AND that some elected are smart enough to see it despite the ideological ones.

      2. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        OMG, Dick, I repeat: They instead passed HB 787, same basic idea. No need to pass both. It will die in the Senate but the House did pass it. At this point you are being deliberately dishonest.

      3. vicnicholls Avatar
        vicnicholls

        That was a mistake. However, we won TJ that’s a start, and the rest will come.

      4. vicnicholls Avatar
        vicnicholls

        I’ll see about why.

  8. LarrytheG Avatar

    Along the lines of what Dick said. When a CEO says “we’re going to do this” – it’s marching orders. When a Governor says that – he’s on the way to being “done”.

    Those pesky words, ‘compromise’ and ‘consensus’ to name two come into play.

    And I agree with Haner on the power and reach of local govt on some, not all issues and especially ones that involve local finances and budgets.

    And so the repeal of the grocery tax (and other local taxes, like the car tax) would never fly unless the GA would make them “whole” with State money – which if you think about it comes from the same taxpayers, the same ones paying local taxes , just end up paying state taxes that are then sent back to the counties anyhow.

    That’s not how governance should work IMHO.

    If we REALLY wanted to do that right. You’d present options to the county for reducing that tax – but all of it done at the local level with no state money coming back

    And by the way, why didn’t he GA allow or require the counties to hold a referenda to REDUCE the grocery tax since they were in the mood to require local referendum for other taxes!

    Let local citizens deal with their local elected without state interference.

    It’s an uber-conservative value!

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Oh, not the first governor who has undergone a steep learning curve and plenty of them have been Democrats. Several have had their asses handed to them in Session One. Too soon to count Youngkin among them.

      And as I said, if the Senate position on the food tax prevails, every local election in the next round will be a referendum on the local portion still being collected! Listen to me VML, VACO, I’m giving you good advice!

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        Yep. But he actually has choices and time to get to a better place if he can shed some of those culture war guys advising him.

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