Turbine Costs Appear on Dominion Bills in 2022?

Illustration of Dominion’s wind project from its Bureau of Ocean Energy Management documentation.

by Steve Haner

Customers of Dominion Energy Virginia will begin to pay for its planned 176 wind turbines off the coast of Virginia Beach next September, years before the first electricity is produced, if the company’s request for initial project funding is approved by the State Corporation Commission.

As with all such projects now, the bill will be paid through a specific addition to monthly bills, a rate adjustment clause or RAC. The cost for residential customers will work out to $1.45 per 1,000 kilowatt hours, but that is just for the first rate year beginning in 2022. In a news release Friday, the company claimed eventually the “net” cost to residential users would be $4 per 1,000 kWh, but that includes assumptions about future tax benefits and future costs of the alternatives abandoned.

The gross cost to consumers may be buried somewhere in the mound of Dominion documents that now constitute the full application. Or it may be among the items of data which the company seeks to withhold from public view.

On Friday, the record of the case was just a few cover letters and the company’s motion asking the SCC to let it keep much of the key information confidential.  Monday up to 40 (40!) additional documents were posted on the SCC’s case file, full of some details, but reviewing a table of contents one can see example after example of information redacted, in anticipation of SCC approval of the motion for secrecy.

Filing Schedule 46.b.l.i Statement 1 – Construction Costs by Type of Cost and Year (redacts / contains extraordinarily sensitive information) (sponsored by Company Witness Joshua J. Bennett) Statement 2 – Projected and Actual Maintenance Capex and O&M Costs by Type of Cost and Year (redacts / contains extraordinarily sensitive information) (sponsored by Company Witness Joshua J. Bennett)

Construction costs by type and year? Projected operational and maintenance capital and costs per year  What needs to be secret about those?

Once information is deemed confidential, any courtroom testimony or debates among the parties involving those issues then take place behind closed doors. Formal interrogatories seeking  more data related to them stay sealed, as well. 

It is not unknown for those requests for confidentiality to draw opposition, sometimes from the Attorney General of Virginia, SCC staff or from others who file as parties to the case. What can and cannot be withheld will likely be the first debate in this case, which state law dictates must be decided by nine months from now. But the case parties themselves have access, and providing raw data to the public has not always been a high priority.

What should be the key issues before the Commission really cannot be debated anymore. There is not much suspense in the case, really, because under the 2020 Virginia Clean Economy Act the project is presumed to be in the public interest, and its costs are deemed prudent if they stay under the quite generous price target of a levelized cost of energy of $125 per megawatt hour in 2018 dollars. The Democrats who ran the General Assembly that year drove a pillow soft bargain.

Will the 2022 General Assembly restore full SCC authority over the prudence of the project and its cost? With Europe now in an energy crisis due to persistent low wind volumes, requiring the use of coal to provide electricity to the big climate crisis pow-wow in Scotland (don’t you love that), can the word “prudent” even apply?

For a lay person being paid by nobody to undertake the task, the prospect of reviewing these initial hundreds of pages is daunting. It will probably take a full review of what is on the record before any organized reporting on this matter can be attempted. With the link to the case file, others can join the effort. The propaganda in its favor will be overwhelming, and that will need attention as well.


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43 responses to “Turbine Costs Appear on Dominion Bills in 2022?”

  1. You have to pass it to read it

  2. LarrytheG Avatar

    Will all electricity consumers, including those who get theirs from the rural coops pay the additional fee also?

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Just Dominion customers will pay this RAC. Federal subsidies and tax breaks in a way are paid by all.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        This is RECs service area. They have 170K customers. Ironically it included Lake Anna.

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1b6fa75d16d17ec9ff236e064e0f0ae8e95a9b39e88290cf15906540deb63ad2.jpg

  3. Baconator with extra cheese Avatar
    Baconator with extra cheese

    Will we all be paying or are these “Equity” bills where only a selection of customers are deemed mouthy of paying an increased rate?
    I hope we can figure out a way to have “Equity” gas pricing too. These $1 plus increases at the pump must be crushing the single moms out there.
    Let’s Go Brandon.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Mouthy? Are you suggesting they single the complainers out? Geez, Steve can’t t pay it all.

    2. ComeOnMan… simply lower your expectations.. it worked in Moscow, Cuba, and Venezuela.

  4. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    I’m telling you, go with a solar system and sidestep Dominion entirely… 26% tax credit this year…

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      You should tell folks again about your setup. I’d like to hear it again.

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        I have had a solar water heater (thermal) and a geothermal heat pump for 20+ years. This summer I had a PV system put in with net metering from Dominion. Not cheap but less than the price of a new car with the tax credit. Based on my generation to date and with $35 SRECs (conservative as they are spot trading at $60 right now) I will break even at about 11 years at the current $0.10/kWh rate – my target is 9 years with higher SRECs. My last bill… $7… 0 kWh used. As Haner noted, Dominion rate increases are incurred on a kWh basis. No net kWh, no fees.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          I did consider a geothermal system this summer when my 20 yr old HVAC went south but no HVAC companies local like it and all said it would likely be 30k (as opposed to the 8.5k), and would take “awhile” so we reluctantly went the conventional route. I actually had tried to set ducks in a row prior but none we contacted had any interest – and was looking like we’d have to contact someone out of area.

          So the two impediments were the cost and the time to install… even though as your experience shows – your total bill over the years would be lower – AND be insulated from price increases of electricity.

          The upfront cost is also an impediment to the local schools who did replace roofs with metal and all lights with LED – the ground-based HVAC for the size of a school is apparently too much.

          Thanks for sharing your setup!

          1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            I am not sure I would go ground coupled if I already did not have it. Yes, heating and AC are your largest electric draws but it might be that PV is a better bang for the buck these days. I can do the math (and I would if I faced the decision) but it is really hard to nail down how much power you actually save with geothermal. Once you had that figure, the capital $/kW comparison is pretty straightforward.

            I put consumption meters on my main electric panels and I can see exactly when my heat pump turns on and what the draw is. Based on this, I estimate my system uses about .5 kWh per hour or about .5kW. I think an estimate that geothermal uses about 1/3 the power as conventional is pretty legit which means I would be saving about 1kW of power each hour with geothermal. I think you can figure $2000/kW for a solar installation so given the variable between geothermal and conventional you quoted, you would be well ahead of the game to invest that money in solar and stick with conventional heat pumps.

            If you haven’t done so yet, invest in insulation, casement windows, storm doors, led lights, and programmable thermostats/damper system as they are cheap in terms of $/kW saved and buying fewer kW from Dominion is the surest way to shelter yourself from these rate increases. But also look at solar now since the tax credit starts reducing soon (maybe next year). If Haner is right, the amount you will save for each kWh will soon be rising from the current $0.10 to $0.14. Plug that figure into your payback spreadsheet and you suddenly have 40% more capital to invest.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            Done what we can with older home., windows, siding, roof, insulation, LED, thermostat, etc but a lot of shade , garden is anemic.

            But, I am more than convinced that with new construction, a little basic intelligence, proper siting, and some up-front investment, one could get to a very low draw if not net zero and if the grid builds a lot more solar and wind, with gas as backup, change could be massive.

            It will take decades even if we start with new construction … houses, other structures, last generations… and retrofitting would have to be major.

            But as you have proven – the up-front investment leads to lower downstream consumption and costs – something most fiscal conservatives “like”.

    2. If everybody did that then Dominion would come up with an alternate method to extract the money from us, and their lackeys in the General Assembly would waste no time codifying it so as not to interrupt the fleecing of the public.

      By the way, I am by no means belittling your suggestion. I think individual PV solar systems are the best current option for reducing/eliminating one’s electric bills. If I thought I was going to be in my current house for at least 10 more years I would be seriously pursuing a solar option right now. But I don’t, so I am not.

      I intend to pursue some level of solar electric at my next house (in Alabama). It probably won’t be to the extent you have implemented it (which is impressive, by the way) but I can definitely see a couple of photovoltaic solar collectors and some storage capacity in my future.

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        “If everybody did that then Dominion would come up with an alternate method to extract the money from us, and their lackeys in the General Assembly would waste no time codifying it so as not to interrupt the fleecing of the public.”

        This has occurred to me and, unfortunately, you are not wrong.

  5. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    The map in the article shows a huge square. Looks like a potential navigation hazard for a busy sea lane.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      sorta like the CBBT? 😉

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          which always amazes me to be honest –

  6. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
    energyNOW_Fan

    Noted.
    Anything we can do to get out of it?
    Don’t answer that, for some reason it comes to mind, it’s actually a dark humor line from an old Bill Cosby joke about cows lining up to get shot.

    1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      “Anything we can do to get out of it?”

      Buy less power from Dominion.

      1. He said DON’T answer that. What are you, a trouble maker? 😉

    2. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      https://jeffersonpolicyjournal.com/time-to-reform-virginias-energy-policies/

      A revised version of something I wrote here in August.

    3. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      https://jeffersonpolicyjournal.com/time-to-reform-virginias-energy-policies/

      A revised version of something I wrote here in August.

  7. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    What you are doing is truly daunting. Having gone through documentation on subjects not nearly as technical or voluminous, I well appreciate the difficulty and tediousness of what you are doing. Again, thanks.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      I am considering a regime where I drink one finger of bourbon for every one of those files I get through. The notes by afternoon should be interesting…Can’t start today.

      Mr. Whitehead. You think that is something, check this out and see the plan for the whole East Coast. Could probably be replaced by like three nuke reactors that would fill one of those dots on the map.

      https://www.baconsrebellion.com/app/uploads/2021/08/Offshore-Wind-PNG.png

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        I like Nukes but not the 60-year old designs that can wipe out habitability in a 50 mile radius. That’s nuts. If we can develop modern versions of solar and wind and even gas power plants, why can’t we have modern nuclear designs that don’t impose such threats?

        And if we have a choice between opposing wind/solar and favoring modern nukes, why do we, instead, favor 60-year old nukes over wind/solar?

        1. Stephen Haner Avatar
          Stephen Haner

          WTF are you talking about? Who has built a reactor today with 1960s designs? Do you know anything about the newer safety systems? NO. What reactor not built by incompetent communists using a flawed old design ever wiped out anybody? That is the kind of stupidity and fearmongering that leaves us with these other awful choices.

          Maybe if I could get you down to the shipyard around 8 or 10 working reactors on the waterfront, you’d get so nervous you’d have a heart attack….

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            show me a reactor that is considered safer than the earlier ones…

            the STUPIDITY is blindly advocating for something one knows nothing about.

            If we actually DID HAVE truly safe nukes – they’d be installing them now… no?

            Also you forget what I did for a living… and what I knew about nukes on subs and aircraft carriers… and ask yourself why we don’t use nukes on non-military commercial ships….

            Stupid is as stupid does when it comes to nukes and folks “opinions”.

            Do you think Germany would refuse to install a truly “safe” nuke and just burn coal instead?

            I’m ALL FOR – a modern nuke. Where is the proposal for it? Do you think NA3 is a “modern” nuke different from NA1 and NA2?

          2. Stephen Haner Avatar
            Stephen Haner

            So glad I spent 12 years with a nuclear company, worked on the effort to bring
            Areva’s technology to VA, to be lectured on nuclear tech by the likes of you. Luddite. I won’t waste my time finding the data.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar

            You have a problem with stupid here. Do you think Japan and Germany are stupid?

            Do you think you know MORE than them on the issue?

            So, yeah, don’t wast your time trying to be less ignorant on the issue… just keep your narrow minded opinions…

            THINK MAN! are you the smartest guy in the world on nukes and all the others who doubt nukes are inferior to you?

            If safe Nukes were THE answer, then tell me why they’re not on the 10,000 inhabited islands in the world that have to import diesel fuel for electricity?

            what’s the reason? worldwide ignorance and Ludditeism?

            geeze…

          4. How many nuke accidents in France?

          5. LarrytheG Avatar

            none that I know of. How many others in the world and what kind of damage and what are the risks and who decides what is acceptable or ot?

            If France decides it is not acceptable – how is that wrong and why would they listen to pro-nuke Americans anyhow?

          6. tmtfairfax Avatar
            tmtfairfax

            How about nuclear subs? One of my nephews was on one for several years. He’s out of the Navy and has three kids – all with two arms and two legs but only one nose and mouth each?

          7. STOP with FACTS…. we have to look at ‘potential’ mishaps.. like chocking on coco puffs, tripping over your pink bunny slipper ears, tripping over the rug as you’re crawling out from under neath your safe bed…

          8. LarrytheG Avatar

            No. Really all you have to do is ask yourself if those sub nukes are so safe how come they are not on commercial ships or on the thousands of islands that have to burn diesel oil for electricity or why they don’t have them in the suburbs around Richmond or NoVa . instead of solar farms?

            why?

            coco puffs and pink bunnies?

            what’s keeping us from doing that?

        2. Because Alec Baldwin and the ‘Lion of the Senate’ have killed more people in the US than any US nuke reactor

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            which means nothing if the realm of nukes and how leaders of countries and scientists feel about them…. and their POTENTIAL was demonstrated by the Nukes that have failed.

            These are older technologies that when they fail they have catastrophic impacts.

            Where are the new technologies that don’t do that?

      2. I like your plan but remember, choosing the right bourbon is an important first step in implementing it. Don’t take this decision lightly.

      3. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        I wonder what the Coast Guard thinks about this? One day some ship will run into one of those pylons.

  8. tmtfairfax Avatar
    tmtfairfax

    So will Herring file an objection to the request for confidential treatment before he leaves office? And where is the motion for “super-confidential treatment”? I couldn’t find it.

    1. Or Double-Secret super-confidential treatment.

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