Tomorrow’s Ballot Question: Will Virginia Become Illinois?

by Derrick Max

It was reported last week that billionaire Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker had made substantial campaign contributions totaling $250,000 to four liberal Democrats running for Virginia State Senate and the Democratic Party of Virginia. These donations, made through Governor Pritzker’s “Think Big America” organization, are the clearest sign yet that the left wants to turn the Commonwealth of Virginia into an Illinois of the East.

Truthfully, the governing philosophies in Illinois and Virginia could not be more different. State and local government spending per capita in Illinois is higher than in Virginia. Illinois has a higher overall tax burden than Virginia, and Illinois has a substantially higher unionization rate than Virginia. In fact, about one in seven workers in Illinois is unionized, while only one in 22 workers in Virginia is unionized. Illinois also has a higher minimum wage than Virginia. So, what does Illinois get with its higher taxes, higher spending, higher minimum wage, and higher unionization? A worse state.

In fact, Illinois has a higher poverty rate and higher unemployment rate than Virginia. Illinois also has a higher violent crime rate and higher property crime rate than Virginia. Illinois doesn’t fully fund its pensions and thus has the highest unfunded state pension liability in the country ($210b), while Virginia has one of the lowest unfunded liabilities ($18.5b). Illinois has only funded about half of its pension obligations, while Virginia has funded almost 90 percent of its obligations. Illinois is notorious for its political corruption and it regularly sends its governors to prison. Not surprisingly, Illinois also has one of the highest net migration rates to other states. This means that Illinois lost 22 out of every 1,000 residents last year who moved to other states, compared to only 3.45 per thousand who left Virginia.

Under Governors Northam and McAuliffe, Virginia was well on its way to becoming Illinois. With their passage of collective bargaining for public employees, the passage of draconian and impossible-to-reach carbon targets, and an increased minimum wage, the left was getting its wish. Fortunately, the Commonwealth put a stop to this drift with the election of Governor Youngkin — who in just two years has cut more taxes ($5b) than the previous two governors combined, has led Virginia to one of the highest job growths in the country, and is battling to reverse the economic impacts of the green extremists.

Tomorrow’s election offers voters a clear choice: voters can choose a Virginia sustained by the enduring vision of Governor Youngkin’s “Spirit of (a free) Virginia”, or a pale imitation of Illinois Governor Pritzker’s “Think Big (government) America.” The stakes are high and which way they choose will decide the course of Virginia’s economy for the next decade, at least.

Illinois Virginia
Corporate income tax rate 9.5% 6.0%
Average property tax rate 2.18% .82%
Combined Avg. State and Local Sales Tax 8.83% 5.77%
Minimum wage rate $13 $12
Unionization rate 14.1% 4.5%
State and Local Spending per Capita $10,947 $10,514
Median household income $72,205, $80,963
Poverty rate 11.0% 9.2%
Unemployment rate 4.4% 2.5%
Violent Crime per 100,000 425.9 28.0
Property Crime per 100,000 1,559.4 1,456.0
Net Migration per 1,000 -22.01 -3.45
Percent of State Pension Funded 51% 86%

Derrick Max is the President and CEO of the Thomas Jefferson Institute for Public Policy. He can be reached at DMax@thomasjeffersoninst.org.Republished with permission from the Thomas Jefferson Institute for Public Policy. 


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38 responses to “Tomorrow’s Ballot Question: Will Virginia Become Illinois?”

  1. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    Agreed, it wasn’t Gavin Newsome who came to campaign, but IMHO the Democrats will go Full California if they get the votes. The bills will be vetoed, but they will pass them, and rapidly.

    Northam and McAuliffe have been conspicuously absent. No accident. They’d remind voters of too much, so they’ve been in hiding and the Republicans have let them hide without reminding people about them. That Pritzker and Maryland’s governor came instead should have promoted the media to ask, what about Northam and McAuliffe? Where are they? But the media is even more prejudiced now than in previous years.

  2. Virginia Gentleman Avatar
    Virginia Gentleman

    Or your strawman comparison is not accurate and Virginia has no interest in becoming Illinois and thankfully the people who vote Democrat know it.

    1. DJRippert Avatar

      Illinois had no interest in becoming Illinois, but it happened.

      I lived in Chicago twice.

      My father lived in Chicago for 20 years when I was an adult. He left for Virginia once he retired.

      One of my sons still lives in Chicago.

      Another of my sons used to live in Chicago and left for Texas because of what Chicago had become.

      My wife and her family were from Chicago (most have moved far away).

      Anybody who thinks Chicago is a better place to live today than it was in the 80s, 90s, 00s – is either hallucinating or lying.

      A once great city has been systematically destroyed by runaway liberalism.

      And, the Daleys were hard core Democrats. But they ran the city effectively. When I was first living there, the saying was, “Chicago – the city that works.”

      Nobody says that anymore.

      When was the last time you went to Chicago? Ever? I was there last month.

      The best that can be said, is that the premiere city in Illinois is not (yet) as bad as SanFrancisco.

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12717937/San-Francisco-tenderloin-tiktok-worker-Freqmeek.html

      1. Virginia Gentleman Avatar
        Virginia Gentleman

        Ok .. you win. You have been to Chicago in the last month. You are right – Virginia is trying to become Illinois.

        1. DJRippert Avatar

          Nobody tries to become what Illinois (especially Chicago) became.

  3. how_it_works Avatar
    how_it_works

    No, because Illinois actually has jobs that aren’t either “Wal-Mart Greeter” or “Federal Employee” or “Federal Contractor”.

    Also, where is the Virginia equivalent to these sites:

    https://www.bettergov.org/

    https://www.illinoispolicy.org/

  4. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    Wow! First, we are warned about becoming like the state of Washington, now the CEO of the Jefferson Institute is trotting out Illinois as a scare tactic. If Pritzker’s $250,000 means that ”
    left wants to turn the Commonwealth of Virginia into an Illinois of the East,” does the millions of dollars that billionaires have donated to Youngkin mean that conservatives want to turn

    Virginia into the equivalent of a private equity firm? https://news.yahoo.com/youngkin-pac-raises-over-4-204046427.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      Boogeyman politics, the refuge of GOP politics!

      Under the Dem governors… Virginia maintained an AAA credit rating as well as a robust enough economy that it generated substantial surplus tax revenues that Youngkin took credit for!

      The GOP complaining about money in politics is
      about as ironic as one can get given their support over the years for organizations like Donor’s Trust, Citizens United, etc.

      1. DJRippert Avatar

        Rather than saying uninformed things, go visit Chicago.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          facts = Virginia maintains an AAA credit rating – even when Dems govern!

          Facts = despite all the caterwauling about money in politics, the GOP has traditionally been king of the hill with PACs like Donor’s trust which hides money in politics.

          The caterwauling happens when the Dems get as good as the GOP and then it’s “not right”!

        2. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Or, Dallas…

    2. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Not to worry! The ACLU just sent me my very own breast pocket copy of the US Constitution just like the ones every Republican politician carries, and which will be null and void on Trump’s first day of his second term.
      https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-vows-abolish-part-072933000.html

      As an aside, the Virginia Private Equity Group just sent me a $400 dividend check telling how Gub’na Youngkin is pleased to give it to me… well, that covered the PPTax on the small car.

    3. DJRippert Avatar

      More like turn Virginia into Texas, which I would very much welcome.

      Illinois in general, and Chicago in particular, have become disaster zones.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Clearly, you’ve never lived in Dallas… Houston, San Antonio, Ft. Worth, Waco, etc., etc.

    4. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Not to worry! The ACLU just sent me my very own breast pocket copy of the US Constitution just like the ones every Republican politician carries, and which will be null and void on Trump’s first day of his second term.
      https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-vows-abolish-part-072933000.html

      As an aside, the Virginia Private Equity Group just sent me a $400 dividend check telling how Gub’na Youngkin is pleased to give it to me… well, that covered the PPTax on the small car.

  5. Stanwood Avatar

    There’s a typo in the article. Violent crimes per 100k in Virginia should read 208.0 (not 28.00).

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Typo?

  6. Teddy007 Avatar

    Wouldn’t the alternative question be ” Will Virginia become Alabam where abortion is banned, the public schools are bad, and politics is driven by identity?

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Tuberville is definitely an identity.

      1. Teddy007 Avatar

        Many conservatives would not mind living in Alabama just so long as their taxes are low and minorities know their place.

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Uh yep, but low taxes would only be a plus…

        2. how_it_works Avatar
          how_it_works

          At least in Alabama, with it’s low taxes, you’re probably getting about what you’re paying for.

          I don’t think I get what I’m paying for in taxes here in Prince William County. I DEFINITELY wasn’t in Manassas Park.

    2. DJRippert Avatar

      Or, Texas – where people are moving in droves from places like Illinois.

    1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
      f/k/a_tmtfairfax

      What are the per-capita figures? The greater the population, the greater the total GNP.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e2847af8d3b416e84df5156168541fa25f1441dc1fa9a8fa4f810bfc8798b00b.png

        Could be that Illinois is on their way down… I don’t know that data but as of right now, it’s plain to see that Conservatives spout things that are not exactly true about “blue” states which clearly according to his map do well on GDP and per capita GDP.

        What policies boost the GDP data for a state?

        What policies (or lack of) lead to low GDP states (which are usually conservative)?

        1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
          f/k/a_tmtfairfax

          Thanks. I think that, for a better understanding of income and wealth creation on a state-by-state basis, some adjustment for cost of living & cost of doing business needs to be included. Not that I know how to do that. For example, the cost of housing in Arlington, Fairfax and Loudoun counties is much higher than the cost of housing in most other parts of Virginia. Ditto for the cost of housing in the Raleigh-Durham-Cary area than in most other parts of North Carolina.

          Then, there’s the comparison state by state. Our house in McLean (small by most standards) sold for almost twice as much as we paid to build a new house in Wake Forest that is about 40% larger in size and with a lot that is 2.5 larger.

          Wages are higher in NoVA than in the Triangle.

          Thoughts from anyone?

          1. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            When I think about the cost of living in NoVA, and the wages, I think the “juice ain’t worth the squeeze”.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            I don’t know how or if they correct for cost of living – but the high cost urban areas are pulled way down by the economically distressed rural areas.

            The per capita GDP for the urban areas alone is probably even higher and yes influenced by cost of living.

            However, as you point out, if you owned a house for some time in those high costs areas, and move to a lower cost place, you get a lot of it back plus some!

            Some folks leave NoVa and go to NC or further. Others, to be near their kids and grand kids go shorter – like to Spotsylvania or Caroline or other less urban, more rural places within 75 miles or NoVa.

    2. how_it_works Avatar
      how_it_works

      Illinois isn’t a poor Southern state largely dependent upon Federal spending.

      Illinois is actually a DONOR state. The Feds collect more in taxes from Illinois than they spend there.

      There was also a period of time when almost every bit of electrical or electronic equipment in this country had SOMETHING made in or near Chicago in it.

      That legacy, despite things like NAFTA, continues, to a degree.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        What they don’t understand is that Illinois contributes to TN’s and NC’s economy, but not vice versa.

  7. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/csvCT,IL,NC/DIS010221

    But… does this, or doesn’t this, include information from nonUS citizens?

  8. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
    f/k/a_tmtfairfax

    Virginia should become North Carolina. Big investment coming from Toyota. https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/toyota-doubles-investment-job-creation-north-carolina-battery-104508785

    And it’s all being done with a Democratic Governor and a legislature controlled by Republicans.

    1. how_it_works Avatar
      how_it_works

      I know many people that have left Virginia for North Carolina.

    2. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Batteries?

      1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
        f/k/a_tmtfairfax

        Car batteries. Need em for EVs. 😉

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Wait! EVs?

          1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
            f/k/a_tmtfairfax

            EVs are and should be a choice.

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