The Use and Misuse of a UVA Lecture Series

by James A. Bacon

The “fixation” of modern-day Israelis on the Holocaust has become a “vast and ugly fig leaf” hiding oppression of Palestinians and giving Israelis license to brush aside moral qualms about their response to the October 7 terror attacks, Brown University historian Omer Bartov told an audience of 60 or so people Tuesday at the University of Virginia.

In vowing to “never again” let Jews fall prey to genocidal extermination, Israelis indulge in “self-victimization,” “self pity,” and “self righteousness,” said Bartov, an Israeli-born Jew who has built his academic career around the study of the Holocaust and genocide. “It’s not a condition conducive to understanding, toleration, and reconciliation.”

The lecture, entitled, “The Never Again Syndrome: Uses and Misuses of Holocaust Memory in Contemporary Global Politics,” was one in a series of events billed by UVA leadership as broadening understanding of the Middle East conflict. The lecture series is an outgrowth of the tension between pro-Palestinian and pro-Israeli groups at UVA. Jewish students have complained of a hostile environment that leaves them afraid to speak out or even openly identify as Jews. In a parallel initiative, the Ryan administration created a religious diversity task force to understand how Jewish and Muslim students, faculty and staff “experience life on Grounds.”

“We have much to learn about the world from those with academic expertise and those with lived experience,” Provost Ian Baucom told UVA Today in January in announcing the series. “We recognize that the ongoing war in the Middle East affects members of the UVA community in different ways, and providing opportunities to learn from and support one another is one of the most important things we can do as an educational institution.”

Many parents of Jewish students at UVA don’t see much “support” for pro-Israeli Jews in the lecture series, however. One mother of two students at UVA wrote President Jim Ryan to ask him to cancel the Bartov speech. The scholar, she noted, had signed an open letter urging U.S. Jewish groups to protest the Israeli occupation in Palestine on the grounds that it operates an “apartheid” regime. “This event is poised to provoke by portraying Israel as guilty of genocide, further fueling tensions on campus,” she wrote.

The administration did not oblige her.

Bartov was introduced by Ahmed H. al-Rahim, a professor of Islamic Studies at UVA. In his speech, the Brown professor traced the history of Holocaust remembrance from World War II to the present time. He argued that Israelis and Arabs engaged in a kind of rhetorical escalation in attributing genocidal intent to one another.

Bartov spent no time analyzing Palestinian accusations of genocide, however, choosing instead to focus on Israeli rhetoric. The Holocaust has been inserted “anachronistically” into the discourse, he said. The emphasis on “Never Again,” he suggested, “creates a fixation on the very thing one wishes to prevent and provides license to violence.”

The Nazis’ “final solution” must be seen in the context of other genocides in 20th-century history, Bartov insisted. He cited a succession of mass murders: the Herero people in Southwest Africa by the Germans, Eastern European pogroms against the Jews, the slaughter of Armenians by the Ottoman Turks, the butchery of the Congo peoples by King Leopold of Belgium, and Stalin’s mass butchery of Russians and Ukrainians. The Holocaust of the Jews did have unique features such as assembly-line killing in concentration camps, but it was “part of a larger trajectory,” he said.

After World War II the reaction of Israeli Jews toward the Holocaust was largely one of shame — embarrassment that the Jews had been unable to defend themselves. Israel was seen as the homeland where the Jews had a state of their own and the ability to fight back.

However, the formation of the Jewish state in 1948 was entwined with the injustice of 750,000 Palestinians forced from their homes during a calamity they call the Nakba, Bartov said. “The Shoah and the Nakba became entangled.”

“Ironically,” Bartov noted, “Israel turned out to be the least safe place to be a Jew.”

By the 1980s Israeli attitudes toward the Holocaust had evolved. Bartov contended that Israelis began emphasizing the historically singular horror of the genocide as a way to forge national solidarity among diverse Jewish groups “based on fear and trepidation.” The “Never Again” mentality created a “phobia” that the whole world was against Israel and “liberated Israel from the constraints on all other nations.” In the process, Israel’s foes became “worthy of destruction,” and the Israel Defense Force was envisioned as “a remorseless tool of destruction.”

Most Israelis, said Bartov, see the military assault on Gaza as a just response to a “genocidal” mass murder on October 7, and they see Hamas as a “Nazi-like organization.”

Bartov is not the problem. Should the UVA administration have canceled the speech that some Jews (and non-Jews) found offensive? No. Bartov should be free to espouse his views; those who want to hear them should be free to listen to them; and those who disagree should be free to critique them.

The problem at UVA is not showcasing Bartov’s perspective. The problem, at a time when many Jews regard UVA as a hostile environment, is showcasing only one side of a contentious debate.

The Bartov speech must be seen in the context of the series of speeches that UVA has held or has scheduled this spring. Examine the flier atop this post. In fine print at the bottom appears the following (my bold):

Presented by the Islamic Studies Unit of the Religious Studies Department, this lecture series regards the Israel-Palestine Conflict. The invited speakers will offer perspectives on the Israel-Palestine conflict that have not yet been heard on Grounds, particularly (though not limited) to those that bring Palestinian and Arab perspectives into the public conversation, as appropriate to our collective expertise.

There is no pretense of being even-handed here. And there seems to be no pretense on the part of the Provost’s Office of being even-handed either. A systemic pro-Palestinian bias can be seen in the line-up of speakers listed on the Provost Office’s website.

Before providing capsule descriptions of those events below, let me offer some caveats. First, I have heard only the Bartov speech, none of the others. I infer bias in the other speeches from the identity of the speakers or the description of the events. I am willing to stand corrected if I mischaracterize anyone. Second, some of the events have not occurred yet. Some speakers might surprise us with what they have to say. If you disagree with my assessment, please feel free to dispute them in the comments. We do encourage opposing viewpoints.

With that, let’s see what the UVA community is learning about Israel and Palestine.

Standing Together: A Conversation About Israel
February 11, 2024
How it was billed:
Sally Abed and Alon-Lee Green—leaders of the Israeli Arab-Jewish grassroots movement Standing Together (Omdim Beyachad-Naqif Ma’an)—discuss a vision for a shared, equal, and just society.
Context: Standing Together describes itself as “a grassroots movement mobilizing Jewish and Palestinian citizens of Israel in pursuit of peace, equality, and social and climate justice.” In other words, it is a left-wing group hostile to the war aims of the Israeli government.

Advocating for Middle East and North Africa’s Inclusion in U.S. Census With U.S. Rep. Rashida Tlaib
February 12, 2024
How it was billed:
U.S. Rep. Rashida Tlaib will join an online conversation to discuss the perennial issue of MENA (Middle Eastern North African) communities’ omission from the U.S. Census.
Context: The daughter of Palestinian immigrants, Tlaib is a member of “The Squad,” a group of left-wing congresspersons. This event was designed to create sympathy for Palestinians and Arabs in the U.S.

Why We Choose Dialogue: An Israeli and a Palestinian Share Their Stories of Loss and Wish for Peace​
February 27, 2024
How it was billed:
An Israeli and a Palestinian who have lost family members in the conflict will tell their personal stories of bereavement and explain their choice to engage in dialogue instead of revenge. Presented by the Parents Circle – Families Forum (PCFF), a joint Israeli-Palestinian organization made up of more than 700 bereaved families.
Context: PCFF is a pacifist organization whose website says, “the process of reconciliation between nations is a prerequisite to achieving a sustainable peace. The organization thus utilizes all resources available in education, public meetings and the media, to spread these ideas.” In other words, it opposes the war conduct of the Israeli government.

A Doctor Reports From Gaza
March 13, 2024
How it was billed: American plastic surgeon and Virginia resident, Dr. Irgan Galaria, will speak about his recent trip to Gaza as part of a medical mission. Join us as he reports back on what he witnessed as well as helps us think about the ethics and responsibilities of medicine in times of conflict.
Context: The event emphasized Palestinian victimhood and suffering.

Palestine and Palestinians in Modern History: Denialism & the Question of Genocide
March 21
How it is billed:
Dr. Ussama Makdisi is Professor of History and Chancellor’s Chair at the University of California Berkeley.
Context: Here’s what Makdisi tweeted the day after October 7: “Just waking up to the news. Go read CLR James, Black Jacobins, on the violence of the oppressed. And then try to ignore the utterly racist double standard of Western politicians and media when it comes to questions of resistance and occupation and international law.”

The Israel-Hamas Conflict: Ways forward
March 25, 2024
How it is billed:
Mara Rudman, a former U.S. deputy national security advisor and a professor at the University of Virginia’s Miller Center, moderates a discussion on constructive ways forward with Ghaith al-Omari, former advisor to the Palestinian negotiating team…
Context: Al-Amari undoubtedly will give full voice to the Palestinians. Nimrod Novik does provide an Israeli viewpoint, but he has criticized policies of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

On the Front Line: The Emotional Toll
April 9, 2024
How it is billed: Join a distinguished panel of photojournalists — including Pulitzer-Prize-winning photographers — as they explore how their profession keeps the public well-informed and share their perspectives on what it’s like to work in some of the most challenging areas in the world.
Context: Suffering Palestinians make better photos than Israeli tanks.

Christian White Nationalism in American Antisemitism Past and Present
April 15, 2024
How it’s billed: Public lecture by Riv-Ellen Prell (University of Minnesota). Reception to follow. Sponsored by the UVA Jewish Studies Program.
Context: Wait, what? I thought the problem was how the UVA community deals with the conflict between Palestinians and Israelis. How did Christian White Nationalists get pulled into this? How is this remotely helpful?

Advanced Public Policy & Leadership Seminar – International Humanitarian Law: Conflicts in Middle East
Spring 2024 Semester.
How it’s billed: Sponsored by Batten School for Leadership and Public Policy. Taught by Batten lecturer Jane Zimmerman.
Context: Zimmerman was a career U.S. diplomat before coming to UVA. This U.S. state department perspective is likely to be more balanced.

Christian White Nationalism. The racial classification of Arab-Americans in the U.S. Census. Neither of these shed any light on the Israel-Hamas conflict that is at the root of unease at UVA, and it is a mystery why they belong in this speaker line-up. But their inclusion does do one thing: it reveals the mindset of the Provost’s Office.

The perspectives provided in the lecture series are overwhelmingly leftist; they portray the Palestinians as victims and are hostile to the Israeli war effort. This is deliberate. The UVA administration has spurned multiple offers by Jewish parents to bring pro-Israeli voices to the Grounds. UVA’s offense is not giving a soapbox to Bartov but its refusal to provide a forum for alternative views.


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75 responses to “The Use and Misuse of a UVA Lecture Series”

  1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    The Jefferson Council could sponsor a speaker or speakers that are “hostile to the Israeli war effort.”

    1. walter smith Avatar
      walter smith

      Why would we need to? That is the only view UVA is presenting.
      Oh, and we aren’t sitting on $14 billion of affiliated foundation money to further spread one worldview…
      We are trying to get UVA back to real education, not indoctrination. And we do not have our own propaganda organs like UVA Today, Medicine in Motion, the Alumni Mag, a press spokesman, etc., or the funding, yet we are the “enemy.” The Jefferson Council is not the problem. UVA’s reaction to it is. UVA’s reaction proves the problem.

    2. That would Sen. Schumer

    3. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      Did you type that correctly? I was thinking The Jefferson Society could sponsor a speaker or speakers [to speak at UVa] that are sympathetic to the Israeli war effort.

  2. walter smith Avatar
    walter smith

    As a member of the Christian Nationalist Terrorists United, I will be unable to attend the April 15 event. Besides losing days of freedom to the beloved government filling out too many forms to pay too much for these real !d!0ts to spend $2 trillion more than we take in this year (and they get a pension for their “service”!), would the overlords at UVA be kind enough to permit remote viewing so I can learn the error of my ways from my betters? You know, to SAVE DEMOCRACY!!!!

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Dang it! I knew it. Should have made the bet.

      Usually, one uses a “/s” on such posts, but then, it isn’t.

  3. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    Not a pro-Palestinian bias, Jim. A pro-Hamas bias. Which means, a pro-Iran bias. In effect the same folks and the same ideology behind decades of international terrorism, including the Sept. 11 attacks (Sunni, Shia, all the same to me). Forty-four years ago, the daily media mantra was “Day number # of the Americans held hostage in Tehran.” The Americans held hostage in Gaza tunnels get no such recognition, because they are Jews.

    Because…they…are…Jews. This is no different than how America reacted to the Nazi Holocaust, with a shameful silence until the camps were liberated and the truth could no longer be buried. Because they were Jews.

  4. Rafaelo Avatar

    This blog has so often demonstrated the leftist slant in the U VA Provosts’ office no further proof is needed.

    But the article seems to question a lecturer speaking on whether the Holocaust justifies what Israel is doing now in Gaza. Not a question worth addressing?

    Hamas: killed roughly 1,160 Israelis on October 7.
    Israel: 30,000 Palestinians killed; 70,000 wounded thus far.

    If Mr. Bacon’s point is the lecture series needs more balance, say an Israeli general invited to explain why this is justifiable as warfare and not blind extermination of civilians, doubtless that would be worth hearing.

    Or maybe the point is we should stop being horrified at raining death on civilians as Hamas did and Israel is doing, and as Putin does in Ukraine. Since that is what modern war is. We just have to adjust our sense of outrage.

    1. The enemy/citizen casualty ratio in Gaza is far cleaner than any other urban conflict like what Syrians have been doing to Syrians in that civil war [the UN STOPPED COUNTING after 1/2 million killed] or Iran vs. Iraq or the CLinton-created Libyan civil war I guess Muslim killing Muslim is perfectly acceptable to the Dems, while Israel attacking those who want to destroy it is bad.

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        Given the population of Gaza is 1/10th the population of Syria, the death toll is actually about the same… now consider that the Syrian civil war has been going on for nearly 14 years and you might understand the magnitude of what the Israelis are doing…

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Nope. Bet not.

    2. Chip Gibson Avatar
      Chip Gibson

      Generals execute the directives of civilian leadership. If the actions observed appear objectionable, then those objections should be levied upon that civilian leadership.

  5. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    There is a danger in allowing your leaders to vilify. It sticks. Oh, I dunno, things like calling people standing knee deep in the river vermin, rapists, murderers, and drug runners. Things like that.

    1. walter smith Avatar
      walter smith

      Oh, right. Cuz none are. They are breaking the law. As is Joe Biden and Mayorkas and all the “non-governmental” organizations using government money to do it.
      Say her name Nancy – Laken Riley. 60-100,000 fentanyl deaths annually. Sex crimes on children. But you are a good, caring person…(not)
      Meanwhile, as the 10 million take the lowest paid jobs and drive wages lower, hurting the already poor, mostly black and Hispanic, then AI kicks in…good luck with the chaos and misery.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Do I replace Ashli Babbit, or do I have to say them both?

        1. walter smith Avatar
          walter smith

          Say them both. And I’ll go add a few others – Molly Tibbetts for one. Maybe all the rednecks who make the country work and are dying from despondency and fentanyl from the insane policies of the Big Brother you love so much who you think you are better than, too.

    2. Just ask Ms. Riley’s family and the mom of the 14-year old Amherst girl who was raped.

        1. Nope. But this morning I gave all the money in my wallet to someone whose house burned down last night. I don’t know them but I figured they need it more than I do. I’m a “think regionally, act locally” sort of person.

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Good on you.

            More to the point, you’re not accusing a migrant for arson.

          2. No. No I am not.

  6. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    Not a pro-Palestinian bias, Jim. A pro-Hamas bias. Which means, a pro-Iran bias. In effect the same folks and the same ideology behind decades of international terrorism, including the Sept. 11 attacks (Sunni, Shia, all the same to me). Forty-four years ago, the daily media mantra was “Day number # of the Americans held hostage in Tehran.” The Americans held hostage in Gaza tunnels get no such recognition, because they are Jews.

    Because…they…are…Jews. This is no different than how America reacted to the Nazi Holocaust eighty years ago, with a shameful silence until the camps were liberated and the truth could no longer be buried. Because they were Jews.

    1. But Hamas IS the PA — it is a partner in the shared authority. It is also why Abbas has not held elections in early two decades — he knows Fatah will lose to Hamas.

    2. walter smith Avatar
      walter smith

      Yep.
      And let’s get it straight – “anti-Semitism” is an obfuscation, a euphemism.
      The correct term is Jew hate.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        You would know.

        1. walter smith Avatar
          walter smith

          Wow. And you are lecturing people on name-calling? Low even for you, but you seem determined to plumb new depths today.

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Where did I lecture on name-calling? If it weren’t for name-calling, I wouldn’t know about whom you were speaking.

          2. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Seems like this one fits…
            “There is a danger in allowing your leaders to vilify. It sticks. Oh, I dunno, things like calling people standing knee deep in the river vermin, rapists, murderers, and drug runners. Things like that.”

    3. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      “The Americans held hostage in Gaza tunnels get no such recognition, because they are Jews”

      The phenomenon you are seeing is more akin to the media coverage after Columbine and the coverage we see today after every school shooting. Violence not only begets violence, it hardens us to the violence.

      1. Not Today Avatar
        Not Today

        Pretty sure the *primary* message young people of all stripes are trying to send is stop the killing. STOP.

  7. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    “First, I have heard only the Bartov speech, none of the others. I infer bias in the other speeches from the identity of the speakers or the description of the events. I am willing to stand corrected if I mischaracterize anyone”

    Most of these events have already happened and you are openly admitting to a biased characterization of what happens without having attended and without even second hand knowledge of what was said. At best, lazy reporting… your caveat is meaningless…

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Don’t worry. He really isn’t losing sleep. In fact, no BR’er is really losing sleep over any of this or Mexican rapists. They just like listening to the echoes in their heads.

  8. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    “First, I have heard only the Bartov speech, none of the others. I infer bias in the other speeches from the identity of the speakers or the description of the events. I am willing to stand corrected if I mischaracterize anyone”

    Most of these events have already happened and you are openly admitting to a biased characterization of what happens without having attended and without even second hand knowledge of what was said. At best, lazy reporting… your caveat is meaningless…

  9. U.S. Rep. Rashida Tlaib will join an online conversation to discuss the perennial issue of MENA (Middle Eastern North African) communities’ omission from the U.S. Census.

    Why wouldn’t communities in the Middle East and North Africa be excluded from the United States census? The Middle East and North Africa are not part of the United States.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      I think it’s the question of ancestry. I remember filling out the long form in the 1980 census. There was quite a list. Interesting that “don’t know” wasn’t one of them.

      It was a hoot too. I had lived in my house for less than two months and there was a dozen questions on “average annual cost” (heat, water, maintenance, etc.).

      I called and asked what to do on both. “Just guess” was the answer… for both.

    2. Not Today Avatar
      Not Today

      Because people from that region live in the U.S.?

      1. I see. So then it’s people from that region living in U.S. communities. Unless of course they’re just trying to be divisive.

        1. Not Today Avatar
          Not Today

          Huh? The census is meant to capture who lives in the U.S. regardless of why or how they do. Civics101. Are we not supposed to care about or capture whether there are unique needs/interests amongst those who live here? Citizenship has NEVER been a requirement for census measurement. Black people were counted before they received full citizenship. What’s your point?

        2. Not Today Avatar
          Not Today

          Huh? The census is meant to capture who lives in the U.S. regardless of why or how they do. Civics101. Are we not supposed to care about or capture whether there are unique needs/interests amongst those who live here? Citizenship has NEVER been a requirement for census measurement. Black people were counted before they received full citizenship. What’s your point?

          1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Conservatives are all good with taxation without representation…

          2. Chip Gibson Avatar
            Chip Gibson

            Representation without taxation is the key to the national failure that we observe today. Why should anyone who does not contribute be allowed to vote?

          3. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Everybody who is alive in the US pays taxes. Nonetheless, your claim has nothing to do with census counting…

          4. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            after all this talk about just how “regressive” sales taxes are!

            stumbling over their narratives!

    1. Not Today Avatar
      Not Today

      Modern conservatism in a nutshell. Walking over and around bodies (foreign and domestic) to proclaim, with confidence that they alone possess the only truth, light and way.

      1. killerhertz Avatar
        killerhertz

        Boomerconservatism to be sure

  10. Not Today Avatar
    Not Today

    Isn’t it funny how non-Jews, American or otherwise, just like non-black people, American or otherwise, LOVE to moralize on what people who ARE part of those groups should do and think, sans nuance, because…? KEEP GOING.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Universal truth?

      1. Not Today Avatar
        Not Today

        Universal hubris.

      2. Not Today Avatar
        Not Today

        Perhaps unsurprisingly, I have actually counted sephardic and ashkenazi Jews amongst my friends since elementary school and broken bread with them in their homes. The perspectives I’ve heard them espouse are much more nuanced and I wouldn’t dream of substituting my perspective for their own. Also, perhaps unsurprising, none are over 50. Bacon et al are turning off GENERATIONS of Americans and Israel is at risk of doing the same.

  11. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    There is no denying their grievance, but that does not give them pass. An assault on Rafah will not go unpunished and rightfully so.

  12. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Under the silver linings category…. The Trump bonesaw son-in-law is eyeballing Gaza for luxury resorts along with atrocity sites in the Balkans. Gotta use that Saudi money burning holes in his pockets. Commission income, doncha know?

    So many war zones, so little time.

    1. walter smith Avatar
      walter smith

      I once thought it possible, in the collection of the always wrong, that you were above Larry (damning with faint praise there), but, no, just mindlessly repeating the propaganda fed to you, like a good little parrot, with a tinge of Jew hate too!
      https://pjmedia.com/graysonbakich/2024/03/20/new-trump-hoax-just-dropped-jared-kushner-wants-to-build-luxury-apartments-in-gaza-n4927496
      Yeah, the TwiX account of Occupy Democrats is a good source.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Of course, he also suggests moving Palestinians into Egypt, so how does he expect them to, ahem, profit from that waterfront?

        Can you say, “Gullah”, Walt?

        1. walter smith Avatar
          walter smith

          Were those the slaves your family owned?
          Wasn’t the suggestion to get them out of harm’s way while Israel does what must be done?
          Seriously, you have reached joke level.

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            I dunno. My slave owning relatives lived in NW Georgia, so probably not.

    2. Chip Gibson Avatar
      Chip Gibson

      From where did this wild accusation originate?

  13. Lefty665 Avatar

    In other words, it is a left-wing group hostile to the war aims of the Israeli government. You make several variations on this theme.

    One would think we could all, left, right and other, come together to oppose the war crimes and crimes against humanity being committed by the Israeli government. To do otherwise is to become accessories. That benefits neither us or the Israelis.

    U.S. policy on war crimes is clearly stated here:

    https://www.marines.mil/Portals/1/Publications/MCRP%204-11.8B%20War%20Crimes.pdf

  14. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    The word for today is “Zabernism”

    Israeli soldier targeting mosque in Gaza: ‘Things to do when the tank crew is bored in Gaza’ An Israeli sergeant shared footage on his Instagram account showing the shelling and destruction of a mosque minaret in Gaza, accompanied by a comment, “Things to do when the tank crew is bored in Gaza.” The video captures the moment when the mosque was targeted and destroyed, with the background music being a song by the American rapper Sage the Gemini, ‘Tick Tick Boom.’

    1. walter smith Avatar
      walter smith

      And I am sure it wasn’t curated propaganda for the easily duped…
      How’s your TikTok watching doing?

  15. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    This BR perceived wedge issue has become an obsession with The Jefferson Council contributors here. Creating offense, for instance, in a discussion between an “Israeli and a Palestinian who have lost family members in the conflict”. Shampoo, rinse, repeat. Meanwhile, Youngkin vetoes SB 357 and HB 267… crickets…

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Speaking of which, is there a Statute of Limitations on assault in Virginia? Because if there is, when resulting from a B&E, we should, like with rape, remove it.

      Was watching “murder porn”, e.g. 20/20, and there was some dude out west was breaking into houses and beating people in their sleep. Local stovepipe PDs never made the connection. Eventually (like 20 years later) he was caught and even though his DNA linked him, he couldn’t be prosecuted for the assaults. Fortunately for society, he managed to kill somebody and was put away for life.

      1. There is a statute of limitations on pretty much everything except murder.

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Rape?

  16. Chip Gibson Avatar
    Chip Gibson

    Abundant thanks to James Bacon for providing detailed discovery and a very fine description of the realities of today. In his debt for carrying the ball on behalf of all true Americans…those of us not as energetically patriotic in our application.

    UVA was once a very fine University, widely acclaimed nationwide for superior academics, rich American roots and history, and for producing so many prominent scholars and admirable citizens. We have to accept now that those attributes have been sold to the cause of woke and evil Marxist agenda. For a while yet, we the people of this country have choice in higher educational institutions for ourselves and our children. It is time to abandon the UVA dream, until such time as that institution can restore itself through proper administration, moral fiber, character of the individual, and sponsorship. No, not a fun decision – simply tough love. This nation was founded upon Judeo-Christian values. Let UVA go.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      Still ranked pretty high and way more applicants than there are slots…. I’d say that your opinion is one of folks with similar views, not one of most views. Most folks don’t hold your opinion of UVA.

      1. Chip Gibson Avatar
        Chip Gibson

        I agree with your points. Simply disagree with what UVA has become. Many decades ago I nearly followed my sibling to UVA. Even though I chose a more martial path, I always admired and respected UVA, and Charlottesville…the fine, generous people of that beautiful area of Virginia. That and those are gone now, consumed by the liberal invasion of the Commonwealth. No sense in getting off I-64 in order to grab a moonpie while passing through that area anymore…

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          Not gone at all IMO. What’s “gone” are folks who have chosen to stoke and participate in the culture wars that include higher ed and UVA. UVA is STILL fine and dandy to the vast majority of people in the Commonwealth and the sons and daughters that seek to attend. We just now have continuing attacks of conservative blather polluting the environment.

    2. Not Today Avatar
      Not Today

      Which Americans are ‘true’??

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        well, white nationalists? for sure?

        1. Not Today Avatar
          Not Today

          It never gets old watching folks wallow in ‘the only Americans who count look/think like meeee!!!’ muck. Folks should really be abandoning VA colleges because the price is too dang high and they’re being robbed blind. $190/credit hour for in-state community college tuition and virtual teaching is criminal. How is that accessible for the masses? The price differential with the big four-years is negligible.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            it’s a “market” . You can choose. If you choose to buy high dollar? Buy a 70K pickup truck and complain about the price?

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