The Road to Wealth Destruction Revisited

A Google's-eye view of houses in the vicinity of the proposed Charlottesville Bypass.
A Google’s-eye view of houses near the route of the proposed Charlottesville Bypass.

There’s an interesting new wrinkle in the never-ending debate over the Charlottesville Bypass, a project that has been stalled for a year or more while the Federal Highway Administration figures out whether to approve the project or send the Virginia Department of Transportation back to the drawing board, effectively nixing it.

A real estate agent by the name of Bill Tucker wrote a letter in C-Ville Weekly that has bypass foes all abuzz  — as well it should, for it raises important points not yet considered in a debate that has seemingly covered every conceivable angle. Here’s how he started the letter:

I am a real estate attorney with over 40 years experience in the Charlottesville-Albemarle marketplace. In the past two years, numerous real estate agents have told me about the decreased property values and loss of sales in the seven neighborhoods affected by the proposed Western Bypass.. … Unfortunately, many Realtors are reluctant to go public for fear of creating further panic in these already affected neighborhoods. Realtors say that houses in these neighborhoods along the proposed Bypass route are losing value and losing it fast.

Currently, I am representing two sellers that are being held hostage by the proposed Bypass and are marketing their homes at significantly discounted prices. I have spent the last five years dealing with numerous distressed properties (short sales and foreclosures), which have already decreased property values throughout our area. Now that we are beginning to see some relief and stabilization from the economic downturn, we are saddled with the negative effect that even the mention of the Bypass is producing in property values.

In all the discussion over the $300 million highway called the Western Bypass—though it does not bypass our growing community—no one has really connected the loss of housing value with a high-speed, 6.2-mile supposed cut-through. As my experience illustrates, we’re losing time, money, and opportunity due to the desire of a handful to force the rest of us to pay a huge amount of money for a highway that doesn’t accomplish its intended goals. Area Realtors appear to be hesitant to bring buyers into the seven affected neighborhoods. These Realtors fear that once the highway is built, their buyers might blame them when their houses are worth even less.

As I have argued in the blog on many an occasion, road and highway projects can create economic value and they can destroy economic value (as measured by the rise and fall of real estate property values). Indeed, landowners looking to enjoy a windfall gain often are the political prime movers behind projects — you need look no further than the Bi-County Parkway in Loudoun and Prince William counties for an example. But the Charlottesville Bypass is remarkable in that it has no such prime movers. I have heard speculation that the project might have a mildly positive impact on commercial property values around the northern terminus, but such an impact, if it exists, does not seem to be stirring anyone to action. The effect on the Bypass upon property values appears to be overwhelmingly negative.

Using Tucker’s numbers, let’s assume that 1,500 homes lose an average of $30,000 each (pick a higher or lower number that suits you) in property value as a result of the bypass cutting through their neighborhoods. That would represent a collective loss of $45 million in property values. That’s only a fraction of the $240-$300 million cost to build the project, but it should be included in any cost-benefit analysis.

When the Return on Investment of the project based on travel-time and traffic-accidents saved is vanishingly small  — I guesstimated an ROI of 3.3% in “The Road to Wealth Destruction” nearly two years ago — the destruction of tens of millions of dollars worth of real estate property values could push the net value of the project into negative territory.

— JAB


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28 responses to “The Road to Wealth Destruction Revisited”

  1. DJRippert Avatar

    Once upon a time I owned a house in the area of Fairfax County called Falls Church. It was pretty close to the Beltway but there was a thick stand of trees that blocked the sight and sound of the Beltway. One day VDOT decided to add another lane to the exit nearest to my house. They cut down all the trees. Now, I could see and hear the Beltway far more than had been the case when I bought the house. When I asked if they would put up a sound barrier they said “no” – it would cost too much. So, they had the money to widen the exit and cut down the trees but not to erect a sound barrier.

    My house’s value went down. That’s life. Bad luck. I got over it.

  2. this is the problem with high-speed, interstate-type roads rather than ones that “fit” the surroundings.

    An interstate scale road is fundamentally incompatible with the area it is going through in Charlottesville unless VDOT is committed to building the sound walls and vegetative buffers and for some reason they do not have at-grade intersections which would probably enhance the road to local folks.

    They have at-grade intersections on Rt 29 bypass around Lynchburg and on the Fairfax county parkway and I believe the Prince William Parkway.

    VDOT is sorta from the slam, bam, thank you Mam school of road building.

    they see roads are robust engineering things.. not namby pamby neighborhood compatible things.

    Oh, they talk the “parkway” talk but they don’t do the walk.

    so the Charlottesville Bypass is like a stick in the eye rather than a silk glove on that neighborhood.

    and that’s pretty much par for the course for their stuff…

    they had one planned down this way a few years back and they characterized it as “lying gently on the land”… so it’s not like they don’t
    understand the concept but they just can’t help themselves.

    roads are supposed to be big and brawny – efficient movers of traffic … compromise in the design is compromise in the purpose.

    without any at-grade intersections (or even SPUI interchanges), – the adjacent land is not going to be attractive to office commercial – something that would help buffer the road from the residential and then allow trees/foilage between the commercial office and residential with the offices muting the road noise.

    they build a road like it’s no-mans land… down the middle of what is on either side… rather than designing it to integrate with the land.

    In other words – functional sound walls that actually have value – generate taxes.

    1. reed fawell III Avatar
      reed fawell III

      Very interesting comments.

      As we’d discussed before, there are many ways to build a road. Doing it, or over doing it, as an engineer is often not the best way to build a road.

      But your comment Larry reminds me of Henry Long. Co-founder of Long and Foster residential real estate brokers, Henry switched into real estate development decades ago. To use a pun, I considered Henry’s land development work “ground breaking.” His great flare and appreciation for high quality land development flowered with the office park land development at his Westfields.

      Part of Henry Long’s genius was building roads artfully “into” the land. Seeing Westfields years ago for the time I was amazed. In my view his work there was a work of art. And it was HIS work. He demanded it of himself. Nobody made him do it but his own sensibilities for the land, and professional ethics.

      Some anti-growth folks might endlessly complain about what they know little about, and for which they have no skin in the game, but Henry Long took the big risks on his own account and did the hard work by reason of principle, and in so doing he changed the way a lot of people looked at the what they were doing and how to do it better.

  3. the other thing – maybe while we have some of the commentators here from the Smart Growth deal.

    Where does Cville lie on the Smart Growth scale? what are it’s good points? what are it’s bad points ?

    and the primo question:

    does the Cville bypass as currently designed enhance or degrade Smart Growth?

  4. The Cville Bypass as designed is a “bait and switch.” Sec Trans Connaughton forced VDOT to accept a Skanska “bait” bid of $135.9 million even though VDOT had, only months earlier, projected total cost at $436 million and then IMMEDIATELY — even before bid award — began to re-design the Southern Terminus for, VDOT engineers told me, “substantially” more money. Since several bidders complained and one, American Infrastructure, filed a formal complaint that the Skanska bid did not meet the state’s RFP (again, before bid award), the state cannot claim that it didn’t know the Southern Terminus was useless, as Mr. Bacon wrote about a month or so later. In May this year, Skanska unveiled the two “new” designs (suspiciously like previous designs) for correcting the Southern Terminus and engineers refused to say how much more either of them would cost but the local paper, comparing prior designs, pegged the additional taxpayer expense at $56 million. Soon therefore, issues with the Northern Terminus came to fore but this time Sec Trans kept a tighter ship and no engineers have added any indication of the extra expense. However, Skanska has demanded $580,000 additional dollars to re-design their winning design for the Northern Terminus. As you can see, we taxpayers have been “baited and switched” at both ends to this highway. Moreover, two VDOT engineers have indicated that Skanska will likely use the $135.9 million and build the middle of this 6.2 mile highway, beginning while Connaughton is still in office. In this way, NO MATTER how much the two termini end up costing, taxpayers are on the hook because no future administration could possibly leave a strip of asphalt unconnected at either end. James Rich, the former CTB member, calls all this a “scam on the taxpayer” and every knowledgeable person believes Skanska/Connaughton will end up screwing taxpayers out of the total $436 million. Indeed, Indiana did research into “design build” and said never build a “major” project (in their case, anything over $50 million…while this one is $300 and counting) because of the appearance or reality of corruption. The Federal Highways Administration also did a direct comparison between 19 “design-build” and traditional “design-bid-build” projects and noted that DB projects ALWAYS cost more money than design-bid-build. Connaughton has let between $3 and $5 billion in Virginia transportation projects to Skanska and this so-called Western “Bypass” is the blueprint. Ask yourself: Who wouldn’t, at least, scam the system for the difference of $2 billion?

    Forget “Smart Growth,” think “Smart Money.”

    1. DJRippert Avatar

      Salz:

      What is Connaughton’s motive in all this? How does “scamming the system” improve his lot in life? Isn’t it just possible that Connaughton wanted to get these projects done after decades of delay?

      This is a telling slide at the national level (putting aside the partisan political commentary that accompanies the slide) …

      http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/11/01/2875921/infrastructure-spending/

  5. Oh, and one thing I forgot to mention. Virginia only owns 2/3 of the needed right of way for this highway — which, by the way, fails to bypass Albemarle’s growing neighborhoods — and NONE of the needed right of way above Rivanna River. Someone, some large land owner, someone who might just be a member of the sole local “pro” bypass group, The North Charlottesvilel Business Alliance, just might be holding on to the very last minute as the price climbs ever higher. If one is the last holdout or two as the state nears the first bulldozing, one’s property skyrockets in value at that moment. Today, VDOT is not negotiating with anyone to get the remaining right of way needed. Somehow Skanska is going to do that sometime in the future too. Perhaps after it finishes building the middle of this highway?

  6. Breckinridge Avatar
    Breckinridge

    I remember house hunting in the Richmond area in 1986 and the discussion then was, where will 288 go? Will 288 ever be built? Will they extent the Powhite? I’m all for calculating real value and return on these projects, but don’t underestimate or ignore the impact of delay and uncertainty. if the Cville bypass had been sited and built promptly when first discussed, the pain would be reduced and the value enhanced. Time is a factor in the equation, Jim, which is why advocates of delay and study are often (in my mind) really opponents.

    That said, the Cville bypass strikes me as a project where the window has closed.

  7. reed fawell III Avatar
    reed fawell III

    Unless I am reading the wrong stories and news reports, there is something terrible and unjustifiable going on here. Why is this by-pass pushed so hard for so long at such cost without any apparent reason?

    I say this despite all I know. I understand that there has been a strong and continuing push to convert Route 29 into a major truck route to deliver goods from the south side of Virginia up to the planned air cargo hub at Dulles airport. I also understand that the intent is to convert state route 29 into a competitor to I-81, so as to drain truck traffic from the latter, and direct it instead into northern Virginia via Route 29. And I also know its the plan to direct truck traffic out of Dulles air cargo hub down south to southern Virginia, and beyond into the Carolinas.

    And I, like many others, strongly suspect that this determined effort is fueled by promises made by politicians in return for campaign contributions. And know that some very brass knuckled political tactics have been employed to change peoples votes, perhaps by intimidation.

    But why is the great unanswered question?

    Why does this abuse continue when no can justify the effort, or the spending such vast sums of money for so little improvement to the road. Last I heard those hundreds of millions that would be spend would at best shave only seconds off of a four hour trip. And yet millions keep flooding out the door to contractors for no apparent reason or result. And so does the damage grow to people caught in this road’s path.

    This leads reasonable citizens to suspect a ruthless out of control government, and perhaps, a lawless one, as well. And the state apparently refuses to answer questions and concerns of its citizens.

    This suggests the need for a serious investigation. Is the State of Virginia, the AG’s office, not responsible for getting to the bottom of this, absent any logical explanation for the vast spending of public monies and damage done to local citizens, for no apparent good reason?

    This smells to high heaven. There must be a remedy.

    If the state refuses to act, who can? Is a private suit, including perhaps one filed in the public interest, possible?

  8. re: ” strikes me as a project where the window has closed.”

    is there such a thing as “past” “ripe”?

    re: truck traffic on “I-29”

    anyone who has actually driven US 29 from NoVa to Greensboro, NC knows that Rt 29, even wth the C’ville bypass is a long, long way from being the truck-friendly road that I-81 is and I use the word “friendly” ONLY for the trucks, not the cars.

    US 29 south of NoVa and North of Cville is NOT an I-81 style truck route. It is chock full of at-grade intersections some signalized and others not.

    South of Cville- the 4-lane separated Rt 29 , the older of the 4-lanes – used to be a two lane and it was not built to interstate standards with regard to hills, curves, roadway width nor shoulders.

    Any one has passed an 18-wheeler on that 20 mile section of road will tell you that it’s a seat-of-the-pants maneuver…. On I-81 you can wait for miles to pass an 18-wheeler either because a string of 18-wheelers is passing others or some idiot with his speed control set at 65 mpg will take 14 miles to get around one 18-wheeler.

    On US-29 that kind of foolishness will send you quickly to the promised land and the road is most unforgiving of moronic passing of 18-wheelers.

    But the point is that turning Rt 29 into an I-29 competitor to I-81 is a pipe dream with Cville queued up as the whipping boy de jure.

    To “fix” RT 29 beyond the Cville area would likely take 2 billion dollars and almost surely require tolls which would kill it deader than a doornail as the competitor to I-81.

    The Cville Bypass is more than likely going to fail.. and probably via the thousand cuts method but anyone who thinks Cville is the lynch pin to an I-29 competitor to I-81 has been smoking something good.

  9. reed fawell III Avatar
    reed fawell III

    Larry, your comments on the suitability of Rt. 29 for a major truck route, much less a competitor of I-81, are right on target in my experience as well. Yet that is the plan intent of Virginia’s Department of Transportation. All of its studies, reports, and actions make this intent plain. So your comments only deepen my suspicions that something is rotten in Denmark.

    It will be interesting to see where certain appointed officials and other functionaries of the governor’s administration go looking for employment after stepping down from their posts at the end of McDonnell’s term.

    Where I have been looking into major public infrastructure decisions, including the investigation, design procurement, and management of contractors, I see very worrisome signs, all kinds of red flags. The sorts of things that should not be happening at all, much less on such a long term chronic basis, based on my experience building big things on real estate.

  10. well, I’m not saying that Rt29 could never be upgraded to be like the bypasses around Lynchburg ( which still have at grade intersections and side connecting roads).

    but I do not see it on the near term priority list and it’s not like VDOT did not have it as a competitive option to the Western Corridor or US 460.

    the new tax structure as far as I can tell is going to generate about 400 million extra per year with 1/2 of that dedicated to maintenance.

    So it’s certainly possible that after Cville is “settled” that VDOT could be talking about giving the Lynchburg “treatment” to Rt 29 south and north of Cville but I’m pretty skeptical.

    McDonnell, Connaughton and VDOT had the opportunity to designate Rt29 as a priority .. or at least on “the list” along with the others but apparently, it’s downstream of the Cville bypass…

    to summarize, it appears that Va has about 200 million more a year for transportation.

    that’s not chump change but in the bigger scheme of things, remember that I-81 still has issues and I cannot see VDOT starving the I-81 needs to boost Rt 29 from Cville to Lynchburg.

    but who knows.. ?? who would have thought that a GOP gov would have convinced the Va GA to agree to a tax increase for gasoline when for two decades the GOP has run on the message that if Dems were elected, they would increase the gas tax?

    we’re really at a point where it appears that I-81 has been put on the back burner and US 460 on the front burner including tunnels in Hampton Roads and Rt 29 outside of the Cville bypass not on the radar screen.

    that makes it not easy for the average person to know what VDOT’s strategic plans are for the next 10 years.

  11. To try and address all of ya’ll’s comments and questions, off the top of my head. Please ignore typos…

    Since Skanska has scored as much as $5 billion in VA projects under Connaughton, one hypothesis might be some kind of golden parachute for our “esteemed” sec trans. Almost all of the projects are “design build” and, therefore, once started become almost impossible to stop and impossible to control costs — as Indiana warned all the other state DOTs.

    How has this project gotten this far? It didn’t. VDOT killed it in 2009 when spent $1.5 million to determine it was “no longer an effective option to serve corridor-wide trips” — it’s mandated purpose. Soon thereafter, Albemarle County’s plan put it this way: “The (Bypass) project as designed does not meet community or regional needs, and has been determined too costly for the transportation benefits to be gained. The transportation goals of the Bypass can be more effectively realized with improvements to the existing Route 29 corridor.”

    Primarily, those “improvements” are a pair of overpasses at two huge bottlenecks (where, by the way, 3/4 of all accidents on 29N take pace) which VDOT had long ago sequenced FIRST, saying that the state should only build this “bypass” if all the other improvements failed to solve the congestion and only if money was available. When VDOT put forth this “three-party agreement” in the 90s, one local car dealer gave a lot of money to a governor and got himself placed on the Commonwealth Transportation Board. His only accomplishment — that I can find and of course this is what I’m looking for — was to get that sequencing three-party agreement overturned. At this same time, he formed a group of businessmen along 29N called “The North Charlottesville Business Alliance,” telling business folks that they’d lose parts of their parking lots and drop-in customers IF those overpasses were built. Repetition and businessmen-following-other-business thinking-without-bringing their-own-brains and 15 years later many Chamber folks just assume the NCBA speaks intelligently for all business. Meanwhile, south of Cville in Lynchburg and Danville, led by the chair of the Senate Transport committee, Steve Newman, the chamber kept telling folks down on their luck that the reason Southside no longer has a manufacturing economy is that trucks get hung up in Charlottesville ad can’t get to the consumer markets in NYC, Philly and Boston. “If only a “bypass…” Again, 15 years later and all the repetition when people desperately want to believe and…

    VDOT hasn’t done a time savings analysis in a while but the last one they did showed that IF this “bypass” is built with all the flyovers so trucks could maintain speed, they would save 66 seconds in the 10 hours from Lynchburg to NYC. Another analysis by bypass opponent CATCO, after lights were synchronized on 29N, put the time savings at 51 seconds and Mr. Bacon, in his ONLY return on investment analysis, came up with a possible two minutes and forty something seconds.

    Does any company site a plant to save 66 seconds — or three minutes — over 10 hours?

    At the same time, federal data and data from other states indicates that putting a major highway through a commercial area increases property values because of the increased sales but putting a highway through residential areas decreases property values from 10 to 15 percent. So those NCBA “bypass” proponents are worried about a loss of drop in traffic, ignoring the fact that the overpasses will more likely increase their longterm worth, that they are willing to destroy about $80 million (if based on the latest sales figures in Albemarle County) in residential value. Further, since the “bypass” cost will be in excess of $300 million, this will tie up half of every dollar projected to come to the nine counties of our Commonwealth Transportation District between now and 2050, ensuring that we get only a trickle of funds for, basically, forever.

    Hence, the NCBA’s goal: no possible money to build those $80 million overpasses which VDOT tells us would change 29N’s level of service from an F to a B if the “bypass” is built. Building the “bypass,” however, will leave 29 an F level of service because only 10 percent of the 51,000 vehicles a day traveling 29N are passing through the area. That’s right, this $300 million highway is on the verge of being constructed for a present count of 5,000 vehicles.

    But it gets worse. Please see above comment Both termini, but certainy the Southern Terminus (and there are zero exits/entrances in between) are “bait and switch.” Upon accepting the paltry Skanska bid of $135.9, Connaughton immediately began plans for changing the Southern end for “substantially” more money and Skanska unveiled those new designs in May as if it is standard operating procedure to scam taxpayers out of some $56 additional million. A VDOT analysis shows that the design Sec Trans accepted for the Southern Terminus last summer would actually INCREASE the amount of time it takes trucks to pass through our community by two minutes and 47 seconds and our newspaper, the Daily Progress, “chuckled, not gaffawed” over the extra money needed to get back to saving 66 seconds.

    While all this was going on, our CTB member, James Rich, was screaming as loudly as he possibly could that this highway made absolutely no fiscal sense. He wouldn’t shut up when Connaughton told him too and so the governor fired Rich not quite a year ago. The governor, of course, is a Republican and so is Mr. Rich. Rich is a proud Reaganite and has served 20-years on the state’s GOP exec committee. He calls this “bypass” a “colossal waste of taxpayer dollars” and “a scam on the taxpayer” (sounding an awful lot like his Democratic predecessor on the CTB).

    Somehow failing to see what appears to be a Pulitzer Prize in this saga in addressing your deep question “why,” our local media has failed entirely to “follow the dollar.” Indeed, our newpaper, the Daily Progress, is a “bypass” proponent claiming “it is better than nothing” while NOT running any kind of analysis of the costs. As Mr. Bacon and Erich Zimmermann, the Taxpaeyrs of Common Sense’s transportation analyst were here speaking to the press in February about the fiscal issue, the Daily Progress wrote…not a word. It didn’t say a thing when TCS noted that the “bypass” was one of the eight worst projects in the entire nation and has only reported any monetary issue when it wrote about the cost of delaying “bypass” construction.

    Okay, so how does this highway which was dead get resurrected suddenly (surprising all the VDOT engineers)and placed on the fast track about 18 months ago? It was a dark and stormy night…

    On the local level, our supervisors have always voted opposed to this “bypass” but then that night in an 0ff-agenda, against-rules midnight vote a long-time opponent of the bypass suddenly changed his vote. Just a week before he had spoken passionately against this highway BUT he was also under a cloud for campaign finance issues WHICH of course disappeared after he suddenly changed his vote…and left office. Can the Daily Progress hear “Pulitzer?” No cigar. After one editorial claiming supervisor actions were questionable, not a word written, not a question asked, not a single follow up story from this ONLY time that four supervisors ever voted in favor of the bypass over 20+ years.

    A few months later, one of the supervisors opposed to the “bypass,” offered a resolution that Albemarle county ask VDOT to hold a public hearing about the “bypass.” Sixteen people spoke to the issue; 15 of us asked for a public hearing. 70 emails went to supervisors that week; every single one wanted a public hearing. There was a group of 30-50 elderly from the Colonnades Retirement Home (less than a quarter mile from the proposed route) waving signs asking supervisors to seek a VDOT public hearing. The vote was 3-3 so the motion didn’t carry. This time the Daily Progress was magnanimous, saying the vote was “to audible boos.”

    Indeed a count of comments to VDOT over the years indicates that of the 11,000 state-collected comments, 91 percent have opposed the bypass. When VDOT released its “environmental assessment” last year 3,195 of 3,240 comments either opposed the bypass or wanted more information.

    Finally, — and then I’ll shut up — when the “new” re-designs for the Southern Terminus were unveiled, James Rich called for an attorney general’s investigation into Sec Connaughton’s lying in his official duties by claiming, to the CTB, that the original design had no flaws which Connaughton had to do to obtain CTB funding approval. The Daily Progress wrote…not a word about Mr. Rich’s demand for an investigation.

    The entire series of articles over years from the DP have implied that this is a “left v right” argument between the tree-huggers (and Blacks who are losing several historic cemeteries) and the smart business people. (And, yes, the North Charlottesville Business Alliance are heavy advertisers). Even today (and I mean TODAY, like 10 hours ago) when a group of parents became actively opposing the supervisors who have orchestrated the local end of this scam because they are worried about children’s health in the six schools within a quarter mile of this “bypass” route, the Daily Progress has covered the story as if there is something sinister in the parent’s Facebook Page (Google: Charlottesville Bypass Truth Coalition), implying that dark money from somewhere is supporting their efforts to the detriment of democracy. Those pre-mentioned supervisors had been allowed to get away with a bogus charge which will be dropped as soon as the election is over.

    Excluding Mr. Bacon’s occasional pieces, there has been nothing similar to journalism in this town over this “bypass” and I, a former journalism and communications professor, say that with a very heavy heart. This is the kind of running story which truly wins good newspapers Pulitzers BUT it takes time and consistent coverage, primarily along “following the dollar.” Out of town coverage can’t do this kind of work.

    No local reporter has even asked any “bypass” proponent to make a good fiscal case for why this highway should be built.

    The Washington Post, the Style Weekly, and the Virginia Pilot have all had short, 850 words or so, columns on the issue BUT locally until a Cville Weekly story a month ago there has been nothing close to comprehensive coverage. In that story, the alternative weekly noted that building only one of those overpasses, according to VDOT’s analysis, would do more for congestion and safety relief than the entire bypass but failed to compare the price tags.

    Again, both overpasses = $80 million. Bypass = $300 million.

    Now, because I’m used to being attacked, I am NOT a NIMBY in any way, shape or form. I do not live, own property, or have children/grandchildren/nieces or nephews in the six schools along the route. I am not a Democrat, having been a lifelong fiscal conservative who has voted on the presidential level more often for the Republican. I am a transportation writer and researcher who thinks, as you do, something is rotten in Charlottesville.

    I’ve learned in this experience that Joesph Goebbels was right: “Never tell a little lie, tell a big one Nobody challenges the big lie.”

    1. just a bit of a nit but if I understand correctly, normally on design/build – the specs are put out on RFP and companies bid to provide ONLY what is in that spec and if that spec is changed – it’s called an Engineering Change Request and normally the contractor will give a price for the change and both sides then have to approve – both the new spec and the new price – called an engineering change ORDER.

      companies are usually pretty particular about these because providing more than they can do so financially can lead to their demise.

      but then again, VDOT is a world-class practitioner of low-ballkng projects usually by stubbing things out initially that have to be added later.

      In VDOT’s defense, there is seldom a proposed new road that is loved and embraced by a majority of people. There is almost always a cadre of folks who for various reasons usually NIMBY in nature that oppose and so VDOT has gotten into the habit of doing what they think is necessary to reach “success”.

      People love new roads as long as they are away from where they are and help them go to somewhere else – faster.

      so we are own enemy also sometimes.

      Local elected are no matter. They will take a full functional road that moves traffic well and turn it into a tax-bearing economic development venue .. little by little until the original utility of the road is so badly compromised that a new “bypass” is ordered.

      Lynchburg has played this game twice.. but never has Cville ever done more than covert R29 to local economic development purposes without regard to it’s effect on the original Rt 29 – federal aid highway – designed to provide connections between NoVa (actually north of there) to NC.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_29

      it’s this co-oping of US highways that led to the advent of Interstate highways were limited access only via tightly-controlled interchanges that could only be approved by the Feds, not the local jurisdiction, not even the State… but even that has not totally solved the issue as beltways have essentially become the new “main street” of entire regions like NoVa.

      you’d almost never try to go across NoVa purely on it’s service streets, even routes like 29 or 50 because they no longer function as transportation paths but local access to residential and commercial paths and the only viable way to get across NoVa now days is – the beltway and even then not at certain hours.

      1. reed fawell III Avatar
        reed fawell III

        Design Build’s streamlined process can sound good in theory but in practice often leads to corrupt and highly wasteful and inefficient results.

        This is particularly so where “the owner decision makers” are state functionaries with a special interest agenda who use the design build process as a weapon to get build something that is contrary to the public need, or that goes against popular opinion. In such cases, state functionaries too often get in league with their construction contractor to jam projects down the public’s throat. They streamline procedures to short circuit or blast open normal political and construction practices – overriding the best practices necessary for doing the job, things like due diligence, integrated design, value engineering, deep line items review, and disciplined overall cost controls, necessary to protect public interests.

        Used in this manner, Design Build allows the state to spend vast sums of monies in small packages to outmaneuver and outflank road opponents. Doing this, the state might rigs bidding by accepting under priced bids for segments of non stand alone work disguised as larger complete job.

        These tactics of deception get the State’s elbow then its broad shoulder into the door jam of the job from which position it can later more easily pry open and drive the job to completion, despite its far greater cost and adverse consequences than what had been initially revealed to the public.

        So the state might design build one third of a road far quicker than otherwise possible to ultimately force completion of the entire project.

        One pernicious result of these practices is that the contractors and the state acting together become partners on the same side of controversies in opposition to the citizens the state is bound to serve. From there the state then grows into bad habits of spending public money for all kinds of excess contractor work and such practices quickly becomes to the rule, rather than the exception. Salz’s narrative suggests that it’s quite reasonable to wonder if such tactics are being used on this C’ville Bypass.

        1. I guess all I’d say is that if the premise is that the govt is corrupt then design build is the least of concerns.

          I do not believe that design-build is fundamentally wrong nor do I believe it is any more susceptible to misuse or corruption than any other govt strategy.

          design build has been used in hundreds of projects all over Va without a peep of accusation of wrongdoing – except inl some controversial projects.

          but for instance, VDOT’s habit of low-balling projects happens in projects that are not design-build.. also… it’s a long standing institutional behavior that has to do, in my view, more with their institutional inclination towards selling projects where cost is a concern.

          A few years back, we had a transportation referenda in our county and we picked a dozen priority projects on VDOT’s list that were not funded and we used their construction estimates. After the referenda passed, one-by-one, it was determined that the construction price for each project was way way low and the referenda ended up not building several of the projects because there was not enough money.

          but at some point, we seem to be on thin ice if every time we encounter a VDOT project we don’t like, that they get accused of malfeasance… it SOUNDS like sometimes that we’re accusing govt itself of institution wrongdoing…as a basic behavior.

          I’m not yet that cynical I guess but I also think sometimes when govt does things right – we either don’t pay attention or take it for granted.

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            reed fawell III

            Larry, I generally agree.

            Hopefully my comment below salz’s below clears up what I did not make sufficiently clear. My criticism here is not aimed at VDOT. VDOT has a remarkable record of competence and honestly, one built up over many years, an exceptional achievement.

            Thus it was VDOT that was brought in to help clean up, reverse and oversee the horrible mess that MWAA created on Silver Line phase 1, and the start up of the Sliver Line phase 2 process. It was VDOT’s very good work that brought the Phase 2 Silver Line bids back down into reasonable numbers from the corrupts heights after MWAA had driven those numbers into the stratosphere.

            However, while deception can occur on a fixed competitive bid project, or on single source design build project, I think the record is pretty clear that abuse is more likely under the latter process because of its streamed lined nature and its inherently fewer checks and balances, and the vaguer record trail it leaves behind.

            Still, the design build process can also be highly effective. The central drivers are the characters of those at the table playing the game.

  12. Mr. Falwell: You’ve described the design-build scam very well, with one exception. This is Sec Trans’ operation, I submit, not VDOT’s. There are many indications that VDOT engineers are putting up roadblocks to Connaughton’s plans in hopes of saving taxpayers from this disaster. If not, VDOT must be incredibly incompetent because it is almost impossible to believe they could miss, for example, their own maps showing the Sammons Family Cemetery or would continually tell potential bidders that the information VDOT was providing was not suitable for designing or building this project or claim congestion relief from other, not quite funded, projects as part of it’s “Environmental Assessment.” Or…or…or…

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      reed fawell III

      Thank you for making that important distinction. I should have been clear on that point. Like you, I suspect that in but a few cases VDOT officials are the victim along with the public of this sort of “higher up abuse.” That like City Planners, they suffer abuse at the hands of their “superiors” – typically elected officials or their political appointees. In a past Bacon article we both commented on this. I’ll will try to retrieve the exchange and post it here.

      (I have a high regard for VDOT generally.)

      Thank you too for you over all commentary on this story. Its terrific. This story you tell reminds me of the movie classic Chinatown. The deeper one probes, the more one wonders if similar ingredients drive both stories.

      But, at least in the C’ville’s Bypass, I have yet to detect incest. But who knows, in Chinatown incest didn’t pop up until the very end of the movie.

      I did read this morning that local politicians are trying to shut down opposition advertizing before the elections, claiming violations of the law.

    2. yes… sometimes “govt” is whoever is currently doing that role for govt.

      I buy that.

      but I had outlined earlier where a contract is agreed to by both parties and changes re-open the door to negotiations.

      To be clear here, is VDOT/Connauton being accused of using the business relationship for other projects as a leverage to get the company to agree to changes without requiring the money it will take to do them?

      VDOT does this on non-design-bid projects also.. the advertised price is low balled…

      But if this is one guy , then it’s probably doomed unless whoever wins as governor reappoints Connaughton.

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      reed fawell III

      I have retrieved my earlier post on how higher up politicians and their political appointees abuse civil servants and distort proper government process into order to gain special benefits for special interests to the detriment of the public good and it treasury, like what is happening now with the Charlottesville By-pass. Below is the quote:

      “And I suspect that on these particular projects, the good guys are far too often outmaneuvered and/ or outsmarted by the contractors. And/or they are also at the same time overworked and/or undermanned, and thus have given up by reason of exhaustion or lack of internal support from their peers and underlings, and/or because their superiors have failed them.

      And/or that somewhere along the line of working within such a system with all of this internal dysfunction, they have in effect gone over to the other side, and thus can no longer effectively represent the state (much less the taxpayer) for a whole range of reasons going from pernicious malfeasance in a few cases to the many cases of simple apathy by reason of their having given up fighting the inertia that the system forces on them, or by having lost perspective on what their job is about given the natural corruption of the system over time, as likely was the case with the million dollar bus stop.

      In any case the result is always the same – all taxpayers and public users get the shaft every day of their lives, as do those in the system who fight it.”

      This discussion is found at https://www.baconsrebellion.com/2013/06/dude-wapo-columnist-ventures-look-at-downstate-road-project.html

  13. Yes, Snow, Thomas and Boyd have put on a couple afternoon press conferences, Thursday and Friday, claiming that the Charlottesville Bypass Truth Coalition, has not registered correctly with the state. These bogus charges will be dropped following tomorrows election as it’s an attempt to discredit the group of parents who have, belatedly, done the research and discovered that the EPA now suggests that all schools within a half mile of a major highway be researched to determine the effect on student lungs but Connaughton is planning a new highway within a quarter mile of six schools.

    These three supervisors are behind both the off-agenda, against-rules, midnight vote and the denial of a public hearing and, obviously, they are worried that people are finally beginning to pay attention to their back-room BS at best, and, at worst, well, bring your own brain. Two of them are up for re-election and by throwing up this last-minute smokescreen, they hope to hold onto voters who are beginning to look closely at this so-called “bypass” which, again, doesn’t bypass our communities growing neighborhoods and largest shopping mall.

    Please go to https://www.facebook.com/BypassTruth to read the parent leader’s response to the shamless attacks. You’ll see several of my posts on this site too BUT I am not connected the Bypass Truth parents, other than knowing a couple of them.

  14. Just curious, when is FWHA supposed to make a decision?

  15. FHWA was expected to rule on whether a new “supplemental Environmental Impact Statement” — which is more than just environment — by LAST Thanksgiving. But…

    Both the EPA and the Corps of Engineers have implied that they frown on this $300+ million project and — although it was on VDOT’s map — suddenly the state and federal “discovered” a cemetery which includes the remains of the area’s first Black doctor and a sister to Sally Hemming (of Thomas Jefferson fame) and the final decision on whether the cemetery can be moved has not yet been made.

    Meanwhile, as you probably know, The Highway Trust fund is expected to be bankrupt by 2017 and FHWA might be worried about money.

    If FHWA says that VDOT does NOT have to do a new SEIS, Connaughton has said that he’ll turn the first dirt immediately upon the ending of the 30-day public comment period.

    Meanwhile, we have an election ending as I write and that changes the time frame too. Although Virginia does not own, or is negotiating to own, any right of way above the Rivanna River (and someone stands to make a fortune if the project goes forward) and it is highly likely that the new governor might put a halt (as previous governors did until McDonnell’s Administration resurrected it with the design-build scam). Plus, there are three critical supervisor races and it’s highly possible that the 3-3 tie keeping the LONE 4-2 vote in favor of the bypass will change by midnight the end of the night.

  16. does the loss of two pro-bypass BOS change anything now?

  17. I hope so, Larry. It is at least a step towards re-asserting rational planning. Jim bacon wrote another piece reference this question earlier today.

  18. Please remember that years ago VDOT sequenced the potential projects to deal with 29N congestion and said, clearly, the first thing to be done is to build overpasses at Rio and Hydraulic and the last thing, and only if there is money available, is to build the bypass. That sequencing 3-party plan was the result of rational planning and the only reason this highway has gotten this far is back-room politics.

  19. The estimate of real estate value lost is way too low in my opinion. Many of these neighborhoods are expensive, with homes valued in the $500-600K range and up—even in the presence of these long-standing bypass plans. People with $500K in their pocket has lots of choices, and choosing to site near a freeway is not a choice that people with choices voluntarily take. So I would expect losses of 20-50% in these neighborhoods, or $100-300K per house. I have elderly friends on one of the affected neighborhoods who have a beautiful home on 8 ac of land with an incredible view of the blue ridge. Their home is easily an $800K home that has been on the market for 2 years, now at $600K, with no interest at all—no one even looks.

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