Sen. Janet Howell (D-Fairfax), chair of Senate Finance and Del. Barry Knight (R-Virginia Beach), chair of House Appropriations. Photo credit: Richmond Times Dispatch

by Dick Hall-Sizemore

In recent years, 13 or 14 Virginia delegates and senators have held extraordinary power and have been the envy of their colleagues. (The total number and the size of the delegation from each house varied over the years.)

They were the conferees on the budget bill and they had the power to make the final decisions on what would be in the budget bill. Their budget report could not be amended on the floor. It was an up or down vote on the whole report. It was inconceivable that either house would reject a budget conference report.

This year was different. There were still 14 conferees, but, from all reports, most did not participate in developing the budget conference report. It seems that only three members were the architects: Del. Barry Knight (R-Virginia Beach), chair of the House Appropriations Committee; Sen. Janet Howell (D-Fairfax), chair of the Senate Finance Committee; and Sen. George Barker (D-Fairfax). Not mentioned in the press, but surely instrumental in putting the conference amendments together, were the staffs of the two committees.

At the announcement of the budget deal, Knight made the extraordinary statement that, although the Governor “knows most of this,” he first needed to brief the other five House conferees. He was publicly talking about the budget deal before briefing the other House conferees?! On the other side of the conference committee members, some budget provisions, particularly the reinstatement of a criminal penalty for possession of more than four ounces of marijuana, caught some Senate conferees by surprise.

Knight called the conferee process “the most cordial negotiations I’ve even been involved with.” He and Howell obviously got along well while working out the budget together, along with their staffs. However, Del. Marcus Simon (D-Fairfax) was not pleased with the manner in which the budget agreement was reached, calling it “the most opaque process you could imagine.” It is also a far cry from the stories of controversy in the conference deliberations, including that of Sen. Hunter Andrews (D-Hampton), chair of the Senate Finance Committee and Bob Ball (D-Henrico), chair of the House Appropriations Committee arguing so hard with each other that they were “bumping bellies.”

There were the expected complaints about issues that did not get additional funding and some Republicans would have preferred more tax cuts, but the provisions that drew the most fire were the surprise policy changes: re-criminalization of marijuana possession; delay of casino referendum in Richmond; significant general support for a specific large highway project; and, most recently, the reduction in the amount of tax credits available for donations to certain scholarship programs.

Asked about the reason for the marijuana possession provision, Howell could reply only, “It’s so convoluted,” and made reference to a recent report by the Joint Legislative Audit and Review  Commission, whose recommendation on the issue had been shelved by a committee in the House.

Obviously, Howell and Knight made deals during their “cordial” deliberations .  Some of the compromises are obvious. For others, however, who got what for what is open to speculation.  What is clear is that the inner circle of power brokers has grown a lot smaller.


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30 responses to “The Inner Circle Shrinks”

  1. emjak Avatar

    The General Assembly members are accountable to their constituents for their votes. If they just rubberstamp whatever the conferees and unelected staff members cobble together, then the General Assembly members are not living up to their legislative responsibilities. They should not vote to ratify last-minute, surprise changes.

    1. VaPragamtist Avatar
      VaPragamtist

      While it’s nice to talk about accountability to constituents, the overwhelming majority of constituents don’t understand or get into the weeds on complex policy like the budget. The exception is with the hot button topics that make great headlines but only account for a drop in the spending bucket.

      And of the very small number of policy wonks who pay attention to the budget, even fewer care enough about the process, so long as the outcome is palatable for them.

      As long as the hot button issues are quelled, there is no accountability through the electorate.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        As Pelosi was mocked for saying: ” “We have to pass the bill,” she said, “so that you can find out what is in it”

        Yes, what is all the hooray about? As long as I can remember – several decades – this is fairly typical.

        I hear folks all the time angry about the HOT lanes on I-95 promising to find out who voted for them and to get them… now a decade later… 😉

      2. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        “While it’s nice to talk about accountability to constituents, the overwhelming majority of constituents don’t understand…” Coulda just stopped there. They have guns and Bibles.

        As for those that do understand, an overwhelming majority of them don’t care.

    2. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      To vote against a budget conference in March is to demand a new conference effort. To vote against it in June is to vote for a chaotic new fiscal year, with cops not getting paid. Howell and Knight and the two staffs intentionally delayed all this to force that dilemma. Time for an uprising.

  2. walter smith Avatar
    walter smith

    Thanks for an example of the sausage being made…

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      I won’t lie to you. The game was fun to play. To pull off a slick one like this and leave everybody wondering, “who did that!” was always worth a quiet smile.

      1. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        I was a lobbyist for one year. Thought I had arrived. My client’s position was one of truth and justice. Then a back room deal, not consistent with the actual issue, but solving the money and administration issues for the Commissioner of Revenue and the rental businesses was struck, a new rental sales tax, and young idealistic me got an education into the real world.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          and this is how the real world works – and I’m no fan of it at all but this is the game that is played and it’s not for folks who have hardline, no-compromise positions. They shut down the process and seem happy with gridlock.

          it’s the proverbial half-loaf practical mindset that is hard up against the “no compromise” ideology that we see more and more these days, immigration, abortion, guns, covid, and others.

          No question – if this package had been presented to the full GA with all options for add, delete and modify – it’s unlikely it would have passed as is.

          1. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Yes, Larry. The real world. But sometimes there are lines that you do not cross…like violating the Nuremberg Code. So excuse all the evil people like me who don’t think going along to get along is always the right answer.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Right. But when we add up all the “no-line” folks these days – we pretty much gridlock.

            Not “evil”. Unwilling to compromise and take half-loaf and work for future.

            everyone has gotta eat some frogs if we want to move forward.

            That’s EXACTLY how Youngkin got his tax cuts!

          3. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            I don’t have time to dissect your waste of time. There are lines that you don’t cross. There is good and bad. There is evil. You can believe what you want. All the societal decay has been due to Normies (pretty much the Libertarian/Conservative/ Judeo Christian worldview types) thinking that if we would “tolerate” all the not normal behaviors and ideas of the Left, we would be left alone. We were wrong. So now calling wrong “wrong” is required. Now we are told to accept that a guy with a penis is the champion woman swimmer. That a Supreme Court justice can’t say what a woman is. That a court in Cali says a bee is a fish. That Sussman didn’t lie to the FBI but the poor dupes in jail for J6 were insurrectionists.

          4. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            naw. you’ve fallen down a rabbit hole and can’t get up… all roads now lead to “no”, right?

            Can you name ANY other OECD country that you’d say is better than here?

            Anytime I ask folks who consider themselves libertarians/conservatives this question – they usually say the only country is the USA a few decades ago.

            right?

          5. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Which has nothing to do with anything.
            Of course the USA is the best. But on the way to decline unless we reverse the course the Loving Leftist Totalitarians have us on
            Why do you Lefties want to be like Europe and love Socialism/Marxism? Why do we need to fundamentally transform the US?

          6. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Do you think it’s worse in the other OECD countries? Is there ANY country that is better?

            Not advocating that we be Europe, but pointing out that most OECD countries are similar to the USA in many policies. Not just Europe. Asia, Australia, New Zealand.

            Not sure how socialism is defined. Aren’t public roads and public education and things like govt-sanctioned health insurance, all socialist?

        2. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Like the old Kingston Trio song used to say, “And me, I don’t like anybody very much! (boom, boom)”

    2. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      I was a lobbyist for a short while, but not a good one. I am not a salesman. But, I do enjoy watching the game being played even while I recognize that the public interest is not always being well served.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        One of my first jobs was shoe salesman and the guy I was working for ‘schooled” me on how to convince a buyer when we were out of his size or style. He was good and we also sold shoe expanders and thick socks for those he convinced. Indeed, I was a failure.

        1. DJRippert Avatar
          DJRippert

          Damn, I always wondered what happened to Al Bundy. Good to know i’s you on the blog, Al. But why the “LarrytheG” moniker?

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            what can I say? I’d be me rather than you – any day! 😉

  3. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    Yes. This is what I’m hearing, too. Very few “in the room where it happened.” And the staff takes on even more power in this situation. This must not happen again. The general members need to push back.

    It has always been opaque. But in previous years the various conferees were involved in subcommittees on specific topics. Education, transportation, compensation — a little team on each. It wasn’t hard to find out who was working on what, and you could talk to them and know they’d be involved in the real decisions. And of course it was far more rare that things outside the budget or tax code (pot bills?!!) got dragged in. No, this year the process broke and it needs to be repaired.

  4. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Freezing out the new kids, huh?

  5. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    It makes me wonder if compromise among larger groups has become so difficult and often fruitless that it’s convinced leaders to keep the negotiation groups small AND the discussions close and made compromises that would never have happened in the full GA.

    No “leaks” either! Wow!

    This way, it cuts out those who are unwilling or unable to reach compromise and/or those who insist on one issue or else.

    Critics will always decry the seemingly arbitrary and capricious “compromises” like the Marijuana agreement.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Since half the blame goes to Democrats, Larry leaps to the defense automatically….You are dead wrong again.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        I just think Dems do compromise easier and the GOP has more than a few who will draw a line in the sand and that’s it. And their own party will cut them out sometimes!

        truth!

  6. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    As much as nature abhors it, apparently there exists a perfect vacuum… in Virginia! And, also some GA senators and delegatess work there.

    1. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      A vacuum of truth, honesty and transparency. It’s “The Virginia Way” don’t you know.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Oh, it’s just that we have a name for it. Texas, for example, just hasn’t given their baby a name yet.

      2. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        let me guess… Maryland is, right?

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