The Incoherence of DEI Ideology: the Gender Gap


by James A. Bacon

Diversity, Equity & Inclusion at the University of Virginia is incoherent in theory, arbitrary in practice, and riddled with contradictions. Nowhere is DEI policy more muddled than UVa’s treatment of men and women. UVa’s long-term goal is to recruit a student body that “looks like Virginia” in its racial/ethnic composition. Yet UVa leadership has expressed no qualms about the persistent imbalance of men and women.

Among UVa’s 16,700+ undergraduate students, 54.5% were female and only 45.5% were male — a nine percentage-point differential. The disparity exists across racial/ethnic groups. Only among foreign students are males enrolled in a slightly higher percentage than females.

Why does the disparity exist? Given the university’s commitment to “equity,” why isn’t the ratio close to 50/50? UVa officials never talk about the gender enrollment gap, which is not surprising given that the disparity cuts against the oppression narrative that undergirds the university’s Diversity, Equity & Inclusion initiatives. To the contrary, university officials are in a state of perpetual angst over the fact that some disciplines, particularly engineering and the sciences, enroll more men than women. Yet no one is distressed about insufficient male enrollment in the social sciences and humanities.

Outsiders are left to speculate about the reasons. A benign explanation for UVa’s 55/45 ratio is that there are more female applicants to UVa, or that female applicants are just better qualified. It’s hard for outsiders to get straight answers because the publicly available data are fragmentary.

UVa doesn’t release SAT and ACT scores, and it has made them optional in any case, so there is no objective data regarding the academic qualifications of UVa’s undergraduate students. However, 2/3 of UVa’s undergraduates are Virginia residents, a majority of them attended public high school, and the Virginia Department of Education (VDOE) provides extensive data on K-12 public school students’ Standards of Learning pass rates. Therefore, it is possible to compare the academic qualifications of the pool of high school students that UVa draws from.

VDOE divides pass rates on SOL exams into “proficient” and “advanced.” As UVa is Virginia’s flagship university with the highest admissions standards (running neck and neck with the College of William and Mary), I queried the VDOE build-a-table database to obtain the “advanced” pass rate for males and females in the five main subject areas: English reading, English writing, math, science, and history/social studies. Here are the results for all K-12 grades (in percentages):

A significantly larger percentage of girls score “advanced” in English reading and writing, while more boys score “advanced” in math, science, and history/social science. Tally up the percentages in all subjects, and you get 67.4 for girls and 67.1 for boys, with girls clearly possessing superior language skills and boys clearly possessing superior math skills.

Does that pattern hold in 11th and 12th grades when high school kids are thinking about college?

VDOE tracks English and Writing scores only through 8th grade, but it breaks out numbers for high-school courses including algebra, geometry, biology, chemistry and earth science. At least for math and sciences, the pattern of superior male performance that we see in lower grades persists in high school. It is likely that the pattern of superior female performance in languages does as well.

This pattern is consistent with national SAT scores in which a greater percentage of females receive high scores in English and writing, and males score higher in math. In the combined english+math range of scores from which UVa has traditionally drawn most of its students from (1200 to 1600 points) males actually outperform females nationally — 18% compared to 15%. (Males also appear in greater percentages among the lowest scores, while females are more likely to cluster in the middle ranges.)

Based on this data, it is reasonable to conclude that the pool from which UVa draws 2/3 of its students shows that girls and boys are roughly equal in overall aptitude, with girls more likely on average to excel in verbal skills and boys in spatial reasoning. The pool of high school students with strong academic aptitudes that UVa draws from has rough gender parity between females and males.

That’s not the end of the story. Admissions officials look for more than academic aptitude. They value non-academic accomplishments such as sports, engagement in student groups, and activity outside school. According to twenty-year-old U.S. Census datateenage girls were more likely to join clubs than boys by a 29% to 24% margin, while boys were more likely to participate in sports by a 44% to 29% margin. Participation in non-academic activities seems to be a wash.

If UVa can show data to show that female applications are more qualified overall their male counterparts, I am willing to stand corrected. Given the death grip UVa officials maintain over their admissions data, however, I don’t see that happening in the foreseeable future.

What other explanations could there be? One would be a systemic bias in favor of females over males. Such a bias can be seen in the composition of the university’s Diversity, Equity & Inclusion staff, which is disproportionately women. In a recent column, Bacon’s Rebellion columnist Jim Sherlock provides the following data points: The Office of Undergraduate Admissions lists three males and 13 females. The Office of Equal Opportunity and Civil Rights. (OEOCR) lists one male and seven females.

I would suggest that anti-male bias permeates university culture. It can be seen from the laudatory attention given females in UVA Today profiles to the awarding of rooms on the Lawn and the hostility toward Greek life, especially fraternities. I will endeavor to document those biases in future posts.

Additionally, there are instances of clear bias in the awarding of scholarships and awards, and in the administration of Title IX (sexual assault and sexual harassment) cases. I’ll provide details in a follow-up post.

In sum, the disparate numbers for men and women call out for explanation. UVa officials have been remarkably silent on the topic. Absent a reasonable explanation, the rhetoric about “equity” and “equality of opportunity” rings hollow. Some groups, it would appear, warrant special consideration while others do not.


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123 responses to “The Incoherence of DEI Ideology: the Gender Gap”

  1. Virginia Gentleman Avatar
    Virginia Gentleman

    Gosh. You are right. Perhaps their DEI program needs to expand and focus on this a little more.

    1. Teddy007 Avatar
      Teddy007

      Any university that is 50% M/F is using affirmative action for males to get a balance. The only universities these days with more male than female students are schools that are heavy in Engineering or Agriculture.

      1. DJRippert Avatar
        DJRippert

        Re-read the article. Pay attention to the measurement of qualification for males and females in Virginia. Now, explain how “any university that is 50% M/F is using affirmative action for males to get a balance.”

        Your simple-minded argument that other universities do the same is irrelevant.

        Focus.

        You either:

        1. Don’t believe Jim Bacon’s assertion that men and women in Virginia are equally qualified to attend UVa (if so, pleas provide measurable evidence as Jim did).

        Or …

        2. You believe there is some factor or factors exogenous to qualification that keeps the gender disparity going at UVa (if so, please state those reasons).

        Or …

        3. UVa is differentially admitting women for some reason beyond the qualification of the applicants.

        Which one is it, Teddy?

        1. Teddy007 Avatar
          Teddy007

          Female students have higher GPA’s than male students. Female students have better resumes, plan better, have better parental support, and h ave better support groups. Remember having a high SAT score but lower grades is now seen as a negative since it is a sign that the male student will quit, drop out, flunk out, never show up to class.

          As a test, look up the IB diploma graduates from any high school in Virginia that does IB. Most of the diploma holders are female.

          Why not try Google instead of insults. Using insults is a sign of being in a weak position and not being able to handle facts.

          1. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            Jim Bacon provided statistics. Your own referenced data, despite being 10 years old, showed women with higher GPAs and men with higher ACT scores.

            You have a theory. GPAs are more important than ACTs. In fact, your theory holds that GPAs are are so much more important than ACTs that a 9% discrepancy is justified.

            Great, let UVa publicly make that statement. Let UVa defend their lopsided admissions process.

            Of course, if it turned out that White applicants had higher GPAs than Black applicants … I assume you would see that as evidence of “systemic racism” rather than basis for lopsided admissions.

          2. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            If one wents to find a school that is blatantly using affirmative action for males, the University of Richmond (without a college of education) is only 53% female.

          3. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            William and Mary is 59% female (probably due to the lack of a college of engineering. Whereas Virginia Tech is 57% male. Is makes no more sense to question why UVA is 56% female than why Virginia Tech is 57% male. Try Google before jumping on sexism, quotas, or conspiracy theories.
            In the entire U.S. 58% of college students are female. UVA is below average.

          4. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            I do question why VT is 57% male. And trust me, as a systems engineer – there are lots and lots and lots of women’s groups who question things like that too.

            Every public college and university in Virginia should be required to publicly explain why any significant racial, gender or religious group is underrepresented at their school. They should also be required to either commit to a plan to get to equilibrium or declare that they can’t get to parity with the general population. If a plan is put forth, it should have clear actions and measurable goals against a schedule.

          5. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            In Fall 2020, Black students made up 12.5% of all postsecondary enrollment.

            UVa is below average there, too. Is that acceptable to you?

          6. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            UVA is 7% black
            Virginia Tech is 5% black.
            James Madison 5% black
            VCU is 20% black.
            Old Dominion is 32% black
            Norfolk State is 84% black
            Virginia State is 95% black
            Mary Washington is 8% black.
            George Mason is 11% black.

            It should not take very long to realize that no university is going to be 12% black unless it is using affirmative action. As long as there are HBCUs, there will be other universities that have lower than average black students. Learn how distributions work in analysis.

          7. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            So, there’s nothing to be done to improve the rate of Black enrollment at UVa? Ok, let’s dismantle the DIE program and pass the savings onto Virginians in the form of lower tuition.

            Learn how logic works in political debate.

          8. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            The argument for increasing the number of black students at UVA would result in fewer black students at VT and William & Mary. If one avoids the other match, there is a limited number of black students. However, part of the DIE program is to increase the retention and graduation rate of black students and to boost some of those black students into majoring in business, engineering, or the hard sciences rather than the social sciences.
            And the total amount of money spent on DEI programs is budget dust to the overall university budget. Besides, when the University is applying for federal grants, parts of the DEI program are mandatory.

          9. WayneS Avatar

            The argument for increasing the number of black students at UVA would result in fewer black students at VT and William & Mary.

            Why do you think increasing black enrollment at predominantly white universities is a zero-sum game?

          10. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            What has been the effects for decades. When UVA admits students who will be overmatched at UVA but average students at places like James Madison, VCU,or VT, then those schools have to either reach further down the pecking order and admit students who would be overmatched at those schools. There are a limited number of black students with the talent and K-12 education to thrive at a selective university. The black students who would succeed at UVA are currently enrolled at the Ivy League, Duke, and Stanford.

          11. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            So, equity requires a DEI program to increase the graduation rate for Black students but men should be handicapped in admissions (by emphasizing GPAs vs ACT scores) because failing to continue that handicap would reduce the graduation rate (at least, according to you).

            It’s worth spending tens of millions of dollars per year to provide “equity” for Black students who did not arrive at UVa as well prepared for college as White students (based on society’s shortcomings) but not worth spending a penny to provide “equity” to men who (during their high school years) are scientifically observed to intellectually mature slower than women and, by your logic, arrive at college not as well prepared as women.

            Morally speaking, I’d guess that you believe that accommodations should be made for applicants and students who have biological challenges such as being deaf. But you see no need to provide accommodations for men who (biologically) mature more slowly than women during the high school years, although they do catch up.

            Always interesting to see what terms like “equity” mean to its adherents in the harsh glare of reality.

          12. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            ONe seems to be so caught up in memes and conspiracies that one has stopped making sense. Try bullet points next time and try a really good topic sentence to make your point easier to understand. And stop trying to trap people by trying to be clever in one’s writing. It makes the writing unclear and weakens one position.

            Black students are 7% of UVA because at the higher end of selective universities, UVA, William & Mary, VT, there are fewer black students with the resume to possibly succeed. Some things that be done to increase black admission and graduation such as firewalling off the hard majors and giving extra assistance to black students. The federal government requires universities to show that they hare trying to help black students and especially black students who are first in their families to attend college. There is no federal program concerning males in higher education. See Richard Reeves book “Of Boys and Men” to see the data and possibly policy changes . In one is really interested in females and college, one can read the book “Parenting to a Degree” by Laura Hamilton that porposes that parents are much more likely to helicopter parent their daughters rather than their sons.

            Also, boys are 20% more likely to drop out with black males the most likely to drop out and Asian males the least likely. https://www.5degreesbranding.com/blog-full/2022/2/17/how-should-we-think-about-the-decrease-in-men-going-to-college#:~:text=Male%20persistence%20in%20higher%20education,is%20quite%20a%20significant%20factor.

            “Male persistence in higher education is a major issue — men are 20% more likely to drop out of college than women. Considering the fact that 40% of students in general drop out of college every year, that 20% increase is quite a significant factor.”

          13. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            “In one is really interested in females and college, one can read the book “Parenting to a Degree” by Laura Hamilton that porposes [SIC] that parents are much more likely to helicopter parent their daughters rather than their sons.”

            Systemic sexism by America’s parents!? Wow. That certainly sounds like something requiring an answer under the umbrella of “equity”.

          14. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            One needs to learn the meaning of the word “systemic.” In modern culture, middle class and upper middle class white families will spend more resources of daughters than sons.

          15. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            So, there’s nothing to be done to improve the rate of Black enrollment at UVa? Ok, let’s dismantle the DIE program and pass the savings onto Virginians in the form of lower tuition.

            Learn how logic works in political debate.

    2. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Nationally it is almost 60-40. UVa is running ahead of a national trend. Simple search turns up a long list of articles. This is the same argument Sherlock tried a week or so ago.

      1. Virginia Gentleman Avatar
        Virginia Gentleman

        Then perhaps the DEI program at UVA is working.

        1. Stephen Haner Avatar
          Stephen Haner

          Doesn’t matter anyway with 17 genders and growing.

          1. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            But, but the “male” and “female” percentages add up to 100%. Has UVa inequitably excluded “other”?
            Where is the gender outrage and justice:)

          2. Virginia Gentleman Avatar
            Virginia Gentleman

            Even more reason to stick with DEI programs. Isn’t the goal to create as diverse experience for all students to learn and grow? Aren’t the 17 genders adding perspective that wouldn’t otherwise exist?

          3. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            Does anyone know what combinations of X and Y chromosomes represent these 17 genders?

          4. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            It would seem there are really only four, XX, YY, XY, YX. Dunno how you come up with the other unlucky 13.

          5. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            Well, most people are either XX or XY.

            Anything else is thought to be rare, on the order of one in several thousand.

            XXY, for example, is known as Klinefelter syndrome.

            Having no X chromosome at all is incompatible with life.

          6. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            That gives us a few more options, XXX, XXY, XYY, YYX, YXX. That gets us to 9. Where’s the other six? How about XXXX, aka Wonder Woman? Seems that what’s in your jeans is not prescriptive of jender or vice versa.

          7. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            It’s possible to have multiple X and Y chromosomes. Wikipedia says:

            “The condition 48,XXYY or 48,XXXY occurs in one in 18,000–50,000 male births. The incidence of 49,XXXXY is one in 85,000 to 100,000 male births.[43] These variations are extremely rare. Additional chromosomal material can contribute to cardiac, neurological, orthopedic, and other anomalies.[citation needed]”

            Also, the following are listed in Wikipedia:

            Klinefelter syndrome (47,XXY)

            XXYY syndrome (48,XXYY)

            XXXY syndrome (48,XXXY)

            XXXXY syndrome (49,XXXXY)
            Trisomy X (47,XXX)

            Tetrasomy X (48,XXXX)

            Pentasomy X (49,XXXXX)

            XYY syndrome (47,XYY)

            XYYY syndrome (48,XYYY)

            XYYYY syndrome (49,XYYYY)

            45,X/46,XY

            46,XX/46,XY

          8. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            It would seem there are really only four, XX, YY, XY, YX. Dunno how you come up with the other unlucky 13.

          9. WayneS Avatar

            The website sexualdiversity.org lists 107.

        2. DJRippert Avatar
          DJRippert

          How is it equitable that men and women in Virginia are equally qualified to attend UVa but there’s a 9% difference in actual attendance?

          And why is UVa, a wholly owned subsidiary of the state, allowed to hide relevant information like admission statistics from public view?

          Let’s be honest – the people who run and oversee UVa are virtue signaling culture warriors. They eschew quantitative measures of merit (like the SAT) so they can hide their admissions agenda. They keep facts and figures in the dark so they can hide their admissions agenda.

          They are liars, cheats and thieves. They lie (at least by omission) in failing to provide the level of public information that should be expected of employees of the state (which is exactly what they are, whether they like it or not). They cheat by depriving admission to more qualified applicants from less favored groups so they can over-admit less qualified applicants from more favored groups. They steal by failing to maximize the value of UVa to the taxpayers who own the university and employ its administration, professors and staff.

          And the politicians, especially the Republicans, waddle their oversized butts around Richmond without lifting a finger to change things (or even ask the hard questions that people like Jim Bacon ask).

          Where is Glenn Younkin demanding more transparency from Virginia’s public colleges and universities?

    3. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Yes, it must be expanded to include the white and delicate. You know, Snowflakes.

  2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    “Based on this data, it is reasonable to conclude that…”

    I need more evidence that Advance Pass SOL rates have any bearing on the cream of the crop that make it into UVA. You took a huge leap of faith here and I think it is likely unfounded.

    1. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      Given that UVa is part of the state and given that people like Jim Ryan are employees of the state … shouldn’t the state require UVa to explain the discrepancy in attendance rates between men and women? In quantitative terms?

      Absent the willingness of the liberals who run UVa to explain themselves, I think Jim Bacon’s analysis opens a very legitimate question.

      But, in fairness, where are Youngkin’s appointees to the BoV with this question? Where are they in calling for more transparency? Where is Burt Ellis?

      I’m guessing they are sitting at Farmington Country Club after the BoV meetings, sipping chardonnay, eating mini blinis, and laughing at the “little people” who want answers to legitimate questions.

      And where are the Republicans in Richmond? Doing the same thing at The Country Club of Virginia.

      They all gotta go!

      1. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        I don’t think that is entirely fair. Unfortunately, in my opinion, and I have never met him, and everybody I know who knows him raves about what a great guy he is, Whitt Clement has been a big problem here. The Rector can set the tone and the agenda, and I don’t see the fight in him. The 4 Youngkin appointees have no foothold with Whitt being a go along, get along type – and UVA is FULLY entrenched, and it seems all of the Northam/McAwful appointees do not really object (with the exception of one at the last BOV meeting who suggested shutting down DEi and funding 200 in State students). Further, there is no way any real work can get done with the BOV meetings so tightly controlled. Really, a two week, knockdown, dragout top to bottom examination (firing) needs to occur.

        I think Gov Youngkin should ask each BOV member on all of VA’s public universities, “How many sexes are there?” If any one answers something other than “2,” GY should use that answer as his written reason to remove that “Visitor” from oversight of an educational institution. I think it would be a great Alinsky trap. The Marxist cannot acknowledge biological truth. That is why Jim Ryan’s only statement about “Lia” Thomas, the cheater, depriving Emma Weyant of her first place finish is “it is a difficult issue.” No it isn’t. And shouldn’t be at a place “following truth wherever it may lead.” So, the BOV members who agree with JR either have to answer in accord with the party line, and give GY the reason to remove them, or answer in accord with biological reality, and then be hated by their former allies for crossing the party line.

        1. DJRippert Avatar
          DJRippert

          In an election year (especially), the individual BoV members, and certainly the governor, can use their public positions to “call out” UVa’s management on transparency.

          If the BoV meetings are too tightly controlled then Burt Ellis should object … publicly. He seems to have no trouble getting his name in the paper.

          Sounds like UVa’s management is practicing “mushroom management” with the BoV – keep them in the dark and feed them manure.

          1. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Ding ding ding ding
            Tell him what he’s won!
            A well-managed dog and pony show…

      2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        “…shouldn’t the state require UVa to explain the discrepancy in attendance rates between men and women? In quantitative terms?”

        Perhaps. I do think the black male underrepresentation is quite striking and pretty much overshadows everything else. I am fairly certain that the university knows about its own admissions statistics and would be surprised if they aren’t already at least attempting to address them. But posing the question seems reasonable here. Given their professional relationship, does Bert being in the BOV make JAB his unofficial mouthpiece? Is BR maneuvering to be a shadow BOV? Also legit questions.

        It really does seem very ironic that JAB and crowd seem to think that admission standards need to be adjusted so they are more equitable to males (but not minorities, eh…?)

        1. DJRippert Avatar
          DJRippert

          Discrepancies in admission results should be explained.

          Why does the public have to find statistics like this:

          “Thanks in large part to a coalition of committed students, faculty, and administrators, African Americans constituted 12% of the undergraduate population at UVA in 1990. Today, that percentage stands at 6.5%.”

          … on websites like this …

          https://blackfireuva.com/2013/05/08/students-reflect-on-declining-black-enrollment-at-uva/#:~:text=Thanks%20in%20large%20part%20to,that%20percentage%20stands%20at%206.5%25.

          As far as I can tell, that article was published in 2013. The DEI initiative at UVa started in 2005. How has Black enrollment changed since the DIE program was initiated?

          These are the kinds of questions that a real BoV would ask with answers presented to the public.

    2. Lefty665 Avatar
      Lefty665

      If advanced academic achievement does not have any bearing on becoming “the cream of the crop that make it into UVA ” then what in your well founded estimation does?

      Does fail basic have any bearing on becoming “cream”? Where does ignorance stack up in your “cream of the crop”?

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        The SOL’s don’t measure advanced academic achievement. AP test scores might be a better indicator.

        1. Lefty665 Avatar
          Lefty665

          But UVa has dropped test scores, AP or otherwise as factors in deciding who is the “cream of the crop” that make it into UVa.

          Are you suggesting there is no correlation between “Advanced Pass” on SOLs and AP testing? Are they separate and exclusionary groups of kids?

          Or are they more like squares and rectangles. All high AP testing kids are Advanced Pass, but all Advanced Pass kids are not high AP testing?

          In either event you make JABs case that Advanced Pass is well founded and your doubt is unfounded.

          1. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            With all respect, it doesn’t matter how the con artists running UVa decide who gets in and who doesn’t. They have an equity problem. The differential between male attendance and female attendance is 9%. They need to explain that – in quantitative terms.

            If they have no quantitative basis for admission, they should be terminated for cause.

          2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            There may be some correlation but it is likely that most (if not all) of the students who scored 4 and 5 on most of their APs (the cream of the crop) also scored Advanced Pass quite easily on the SOLs. Btw, they did not drop SATs, they simply don’t require them. They never required APs but you can bet your bottom dollar that they consider (and favor) them along with the rigor of the high school course taken by the student as well as their performance.

          3. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            All supposition on your part. “Likely” and “you can bet your bottom dollar”. Not a fact based argument, while JAB is dealing with actual real numbers.

          4. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            Eric has nothing to support his contention that there is aa reasonable basis for the 9% discrepancy. Given that, he tries to argue against the best available data. That data says that UVa has systemic sexism in its application process.

            As a state-owned institution, it is incumbent on UVa to explain themselves.

            And it is incumbent of the pusillanimous Republicans in the General Assembly and on the UVa Board of Visitors to demand that the explanation is forthcoming.

            Again, I ask … where is Burt Ellis?

          5. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            See my original comment. JAB took a huge leap of faith and I am not convinced. I have provided my reasoning. Why do you think I am wrong? I am speaking from personal experience, btw. This is not supposition on my part.

          6. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            You’re just all supposition. You have no objective data. It does not mean you are wrong, just that you are unsupported speculation criticizing someone citing actual data.

            We’ve polluted this stream enough. You’re on your own.

          7. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            Exactly. Jim has the best data publicly available and it seems convincing enough to demand answers from UVa and/or The Virginia General Assembly.

          8. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            See Teddy’s response to DJ below. Seems there is hard data to back up my position.

  3. DJRippert Avatar
    DJRippert

    I would also be very interested in the average SAT scores for students admitted from Northern Virginia vs the rest of the state, regardless of sex or race.

    Isn’t that the sort of information that should be provided to “we the people” who own the University of Virginia?

    I suspect that this would be one of those dirty secrets that the RoVa Republicans don’t want disclosed while the bleeding heart liberals elected from NoVa don’t want disclosed either. Southern graft and northern socialism. A great combination.

    1. walter smith Avatar
      walter smith

      THAT is an interesting question…
      UVA has gone opaque on the Landscape feature of its admissions process.
      Landscape is the College Board successor to its previous “Adversity Index” which was canned for the name being too honest in what it was trying to do. Landscape sounds so much more benign, does it not?
      From what I can surmise (since UVA quit cooperating, despite its “unequivocal” support of free inquiry), Landscape has two components – a school score and a neighborhood score. The school score measures the applicant only against other applicants from that school. So if you are 25th percentile at TJ, you will get a lower score than a top 10 percentile from a horrible school. “Neighborhood” appears to be inversely related to socio-economic rating. So, again, if you are in a “poor” school district, you have had more adversity, and get a higher score. UVA won’t admit there is any initial score required, but that cannot be true (other than UVA only whispering it in the ears of the reviewers so its process is “holistic”) – how else can you review 50,000 and lately 56,000 applications without SOME uniform standard?
      So, back to your question… I suspect the better schools in NoVa get screwed over, but some of the lesser schools benefit, not just in NoVa but throughout the Commonwealth.
      Two more things – I have BEGGED for access to the system to plug in the same (hypothetical) student, changing only the school and neighborhood and seeing what score results. Access denied!
      Second, I am sure the system can slice and dice by zip code and school, but UVA, under FOIA, hides behind I am asking UVA to create a document, and FOIA only applies to already created documents.
      (They don’t really mean that unequivocal support for free inquiry thing…)

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        “I suspect the better schools in NoVa get screwed over, but some of the lesser schools benefit, not just in NoVa but throughout the Commonwealth.”

        Any high school guidance counselor will tell you this. It has been a fact of life for decades.

        1. DJRippert Avatar
          DJRippert

          You may be right. But where are the facts and figures? Why are these details not published?

          1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Because if they published the basis of their process as “facts and figures” two things would happen. 1. the system would be gamed (even more than it already is), and 2. they would remove the ability to make exceptions where they felt it was justified without opening themselves up to (even more) lawsuits.

          2. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            So, a public institution – owned by the people of Virginia – can hide its process of deciding which citizens of the Commonwealth are allowed to benefit from that public institution?

            Doesn’t sound right to me.

            Especially macro statistics about the geographic origin of in-state acceptances along with a quantitative measure of those accepted students (average SAT, average ACT).

            What are they hiding?

          3. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            “..can hide its process of deciding which citizens of the Commonwealth are allowed to benefit from that public institution?”

            They are actually very open about the process. They will tell you that they look at each and every application in its entirety and consider the whole student – from grades, to class standing, to curriculum, to extracurriculars, to employment, to SATs, to APs, to essay answers, etc. What they will never supply is some formula or hard and fast statistics.

        2. walter smith Avatar
          walter smith

          And that makes it right?
          Maybe it is time to end it…

          1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Why? Are the students from poorer parts of the state at fault because their taxpayers refuse to pay for the education and resources afforded those from more affluent areas? According to guidance counselors, UVa (and similar schools) select those students who maximized the curriculum available to them – that is a reasonable way to adjust for a diverse statewide K-12 system.

          2. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            First, huge sums of money are transferred from some localities in Virginia to others in order to try to equalize the public K-12 funding. Local funding, in many poor areas of Virginia, is a fraction of total funding for the schools in those areas.

            Second, the argument for admitting girls at a higher rate than boys (at least, by some) is that the girls are better prepared for college. Why wouldn’t that same argument hold for people from disparate areas of education?

          3. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Just because a school does not offer dual enrollment multi-variable calculus, for example, does not mean its students can’t prepare for college with the lower level courses available to them.

          4. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Why do you think being from a poorer school means you have to be less able? Maybe people are individuals, not groups. Maybe a motivated student in a POS school can still achieve. And you stupid point…the students “maximized” the opportunities available to them – you have absolutely not one piece of evidence to support that. You can finish #1 in a POS school with no effort. It doesn’t mean you maximized anything…it’s just your excuse to try to legitimize Marxist “equity”…

    2. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Not Northern VA. Occupied VA.

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        We like to think of it as a foothold…

      2. DJRippert Avatar
        DJRippert

        Desegregated Virginia.

  4. Lefty665 Avatar
    Lefty665

    Nice job putting a finger on inequitable admission rates between women and men, although I do note that the percentages add up to 100. Where are all the rest who do not identify as male or female? 🙂

    Another statistic to look at is black admissions, they are around half the black proportion of the population of Virginia, although admissions closely match their advanced pass percentage. The black gender divide is even worse with black male admissions a little more than half that of black females. That makes black males roughly one third of their representation in the general population of Virginia, and total black students at UVa around half their incidence in Virginia. With UVa’s gender imbalance black women are even more underrepresented among women at UVa then they are compared to Virginia as a whole. Is that Ryan’s definition of “equity” as he has practiced it at UVa?

    It is clear for both gender and race that UVa’s Admissions, OEOCR and DIE militia have utterly failed. In addition to the sober analysis of the numbers that you have done, the Administration, OEOCR and DIE bureaucracy deserves ridicule for its utter failure to achieve anything even approaching equity after decades of doing “the work”. Millions of dollars a year and this is the best you bozos can come up with? Pull the other one it’s got bells on 🙂

    Ridicule is a first step to purging foolishness and incompetency. An example that my dear old mother used to cite was Nixon dressing the White House police up in gaudy uniforms like they were from some banana republic. All of D.C. started laughing at them and him. Her observation was that it won’t be long now. Sure enough inside of a year he was gone.

    Maybe Ryan could put the Admissions, OEOCR and DIE staff all in cute uniforms with gold braid and buttons so everyone can “admire” them and him for the essential work they are performing so well at UVa. 🙂

    1. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      Exactly right. The main issue with DEI is the absolute incompetence of their efforts. I believe that the percentage of Blacks attending UVa has fallen over the 18 years that the DEI program has been in place. I may be wrong but I have a pretty clear memory of seeing a higher percentage of Blacks enrolled 20 years ago than today.

      1. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        Yes. Blacks had a higher rate of enrollment prior to all the “help.” I think the percentage enrolled was at 9% and is now under 7%.

        1. Lefty665 Avatar
          Lefty665

          Ridicule of their incompetence is the best medicine. Laugh ’em out of the state.

  5. Teddy007 Avatar
    Teddy007

    Comparing mean scores of all students to the admissions rates for UVA makes no sense. At a selective university, one is dealing with the right hand side of the normal distribution and the arm is larger for women than for men. Women also make better students and generally have higher high school GPA’s for the sat SAT score. Women are also more organized and more disciplined at 18 and will have better resumes.

    One should also remember that families, across all income levels, are willing to pay full retail tuition for daughters much more than sons.

    1. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      ” … and the arm is larger for women than for men. ”

      Facts? Evidence?

      “Women also make better students and generally have higher high school GPA’s for the sat SAT score.”

      Higher GPAs. Facts? Evidence?

      As for “… for the sat SAT score.” – I have no idea what you are talking about.

      1. Teddy007 Avatar
        Teddy007

        It look less than a minute of find data on the GPA’s. https://www.act.org/content/dam/act/unsecured/documents/Info-Brief-2014-12.pdf

        “Female high school students earn higher grades than their male peers. The gender gap is particularly large in English, but female students also earn higher grades in math, social science, and science courses. “

        1. DJRippert Avatar
          DJRippert

          Your data was published in March, 2014. It was based on students who finished high school in 2013. 10 year old data?

          Beyond that, the study you cite shows that women had higher GPAs but men had higher ACT scores.

          Your decade old study does not provide evidence of why there is a 9% disparity between men and women at UVa. Even if it did, why doesn’t UVa find it necessary to explain that disparity?

          1. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            I never understand people who demand cites and then spend their time nitpicking the cites. Find a cite since that time that shows that females do not have higher high school GPAs, take more IB classes, get more IB diplomas, or take more AP tests. Female in high school are just better students, more driven, and thus, more likely to get accepted to selective universities.

            Why should UVA be providing affirmative action for males?

          2. WayneS Avatar

            Why should they be providing affirmative action for anyone?

          3. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            Many university administration realize that for smaller, more residential colleges, being 60% female has a profound effect on the culture of the University. That is why those universities use a mild form of affirmative action for male applicants.

          4. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            Females being admitted as a higher rate than males is a sign that there is no affirmative action. If males were admitted at the same rate as females, it would be due to a clear cut case of affirmative action. Get over yourself and study the issues.

          5. WayneS Avatar

            You asked the question, pal.

            Why should UVA be providing affirmative action for males?

            It appears you have decided to treat people who agree with you with the same disdain you show for those who disagree with you.

            Perhaps you should get over yourself.

          6. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            I am using your data! You ignore ACT test results (where men outscore women) from your own data.

            If you believe that the ACTs measure actual retention of knowledge, those high GPAs didn’t really help the women all that much.

            But more importantly – why are you and I debating what UVa’s admissions policies are? Why isn’t UVa required to explain itself?

            The percentage of Blacks attending UVa has fallen significantly from 1990 to today. Why?

          7. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            Go find your own data that shows that UVA is somehow discriminating against males in admission other than just the percentage. More than 10 years ago, the WAshington Post had a story about a male high school student from Northern Virginia who had above a 1450 SAT but had some C’s in high school. Universities have a ton of data on all of their students and know that students with high SAT scores but low high school grades are much less likely to finish than applicants with high grades but average test scores.
            The percentage of black students is currently at 7% (according to collegeresults.org as compared to 12% in 1990. However, the percentage of Asian students at UVA has gone up along with the percentage of Hispanic students. UVA has not grown its student body as Virginia has grown and thus, it is harder to get in. Something high school counsellors have to tell parents of high school students is that getting admitted to UVA has changed in the last 30 years.

          8. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            ” …. know that students with high SAT scores but low high school grades are much less likely to finish than applicants with high grades but average test scores.”

            UVa has never had a graduation rate problem – even back when it admitted equal numbers of men and women.

          9. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            The six year graduation rate at UVA is 94% They achieve that by not admitting students who cannot finish. 30 years ago it was more likely that the graduation rate was lower. In addition, the black graduation rate is 89% compared to 95% for white students. Virtually every university in the U.S. has a lower graduation rate for black students versus white or Asian students. That is where the idea of overmatch comes from.

          10. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            “30 years ago it was more likely that the graduation rate was lower.”

            Once again … source?

            I graduated 42 years ago from UVa and, qualitatively speaking, graduation rates were not an issue. At the time I matriculated to UVa, men and women were admitted in equal numbers.

            UVa has, over the last 50 years, been a school that is hard to get into but easy to get out of (with a degree).

          11. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            One needs to provide a source. Most than likely in the early 1980’s there were more male students than female students and more dropped out. The term “weed out course” is no longer used since a university that uses weed out courses is downgraded by ranking organizations like US News. These days universities work much harder to keep marginal students out of the hard majors. One of the terms used is “fire walls” to describe the separate admissions processes for some majors these days. And all universities were easier to get admitted to 50 years ago because UVA was basically the same size as today but there were fewer high school seniors applying. In addition, 50 years ago there were not the ranking organizations causes students to apply for more selective universities.

            From UVA’s alumni magazine : Back in 1992, when the parents of some of today’s high school juniors were heading to college, the odds of getting into UVA weren’t bad. That year, UVA offered admission to 43 percent of the 12,318 students who applied—5,282

            https://uvamagazine.org/articles/2022_admissions#:~:text=Back%20in%201992%2C%20when%20the,12%2C318%20students%20who%20applied%E2%80%945%2C282.
            .

          12. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            No, in 1977 the entering undergraduate class at UVa was almost exactly split between men and women. I remember being on of those men.

            There were no “weed out” courses that I recall other than differential equations which did weed students out of the Engineering School, and into the College of Arts and Sciences.

          13. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            Unless one provides a cite, assume that the university had more male students than female students. From the New York Times: Women became a majority of college students in 1979, and the trend line has continued rising. While this gender gap has stopped widening over recent years, it has also shown no signs of reversing.

            In 1976, James Madison University, formerly Virginia State Teachers College (Harrisonburg) Longwood University, formerly Virginia State Teachers College (Farmville) Radford University, formerly Virginia State Teachers College (Radford) University of Mary Washington, formerly Virginia State Teachers College (Fredericksburg) were overwhelmingly female.

            From the UVA website: In just the first year of full coeducation in 1970, 450 undergraduate women enrolled – 39 percent of the class. Many of them transferred from other colleges, including Mary Washington College, which was established in 1944 as the women’s college of the University of Virginia. (It became an independent school in 1972 later and began admitting men.). I doubt UVA when from 39% to 50% female is 7 years.

            Please try to use Google and do some research.

  6. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    For the same reason that contributors and commenters on BR are mostly male.

  7. Eric the Half Troll: “It really does seem very ironic that JAB and crowd seem to think that admission standards need to be adjusted so they are more equitable to males.”

    I have never said that, never implied that.

    The point of this post is to point out UVa’s double standard.

    As I said on WRVA radio this morning, if women are better qualified to be admitted to UVa than men, then I have no problem with a 55/45 disparity.

    But I have two big questions: Is there an academic disparity among applicants at UVa? There are reasons to think not, although there may be reasons, not made public, to think so.

    If women are more academically meritorious, that does raise the question: What about “equity”? Why isn’t the UVa administration concerned about that disparity, as it is of other disparities? I advanced the possibility — which I do not document in this article — that there is systemic bias… bias against males. What we know for certain is that a disparity does exist and UVa’s administration has issued not one peep of concern about it.

    1. M. Purdy Avatar
      M. Purdy

      “Why isn’t the UVa administration concerned about that disparity, as it is of other disparities?” Could it be because there has been no systemic discrimination against white males in US society? And that high-prestige occupations are still dominated by white men?

      1. Teddy007 Avatar
        Teddy007

        More than 50% of the students in law school and med school these days are women. Even something like Pharmacist have gone from 80% female in 1980 to over 80% female today.

        1. M. Purdy Avatar
          M. Purdy

          Again, not sure what that proves.

          1. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            men no longer dominate most fields outside of engineering and physics. Claiming that men still dominate is wrong.

          2. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            You’ve conflated going to school with success in the profession itself. Men still dominate.

          3. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            Not really. It is just a legacy of men being 80% of the graduates in a field 40 or more years ago. If one is going to make a claim, then one needs to back it up with data. Does anyone doubt that the number of CEO’s of the fortune 500 what are women will continue to increase? That the number of women in Congress will increase?

          4. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            You don’t have the data to back up your claims that the fields you listed are not dominated by men, because the data doesn’t exist. Then you put forth a plausible but unproven theory as to what the future may hold. Look at the number of women equity partners at top law firms: it’s about 1 in 5. Or how about how many Fortune 500 CEOs are women (it’s about 10%). Or how about tenured profs in physics (less than 20%). And that’s not even getting into the racial demographic issues. The bottom line is that I’ve seen no plausible evidence that white males are discriminated against in U.S. society. I’m open to the idea, but the stats and history don’t back up that argument.

          5. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            IN 1990, the percent of women who were CEO’s of fortune 500 was 0%. The numbers will go up. In academia: In 2022, roughly 33% of college presidents at all levels were women. That’s only about a 3 percentage point increase from 2016, the last time ACE conducted the American College President Study. The remaining 67% of survey respondents last year were men.

      2. DJRippert Avatar
        DJRippert

        Neither the boys nor the girls applying to UVa have been the causes of nor the victims of systemic discrimination based on gender. They are 17. They were born in 2006.

        It is a well accepted scientific fact that there is no statistically valid difference in intelligence between men and women.

        So, is it your contention that the 9% difference in acceptance rates between girls and boys at UVa is a deliberate effort to right the wrongs of the past?

        1. M. Purdy Avatar
          M. Purdy

          There are so many problems with your post I don’t know where to start…so let’s just start with the most basic one: the acceptance rates for men and women over the last decade is roughly 2% apart, 25 vs. 27% respectively. In the 2021-22 academic year the acceptance rates were 20 and 21%. So what are you talking about?

          1. WayneS Avatar

            You bring up an issue which heretofore no one else has raised on this thread .

            What is the female to male ratio of applicants to UVA?

            If there is a 9 percentage point difference between female and male undergraduate students, but only a 1% or 2% difference in acceptance rate, it certainly appears that more females than males are applying to attend UVA.

            A higher proportion of female applicants could explain the higher proportion of female students.

          2. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            It’s a nationwide trend, and UVa fares better than other colleges in gender balance. BR’s arguments are going nowhere, and they’re not thought-provoking in the least.
            http://commondatasets.com/UVA.html

    2. WayneS Avatar

      It appears there may be even be more bias being exhibited towards black females vs. black males than the overall female/male bias within the overall student body.

      According to UVA’s “Diversity Dashboard”, there were a total of 1,175 undergraduates identified as African American were enrolled at UVA for the 2022/23 school year.

      Of those, 741, or 63%, were female.

      63/37 is a greater female to male ratio than for any other identified racial/ethnic group.

      1. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        Again, a national trend merely reflected by UVA.

        1. WayneS Avatar

          Just stirring the pot….

      2. Teddy007 Avatar
        Teddy007

        That is the gender ratio at most HBCU’s these days. For all the talk of intersectionism, black women are doing much better than black men and black lesbians are doing quite well in the workplace.

    3. Lefty665 Avatar
      Lefty665

      The other day it seemed that Ryan’s half facile attempt to redefine “equity” as “equality” was just an exercise in trying to blur the differences between UVa’s practices during the McAuliffe/Northam administrations and the current Youngkin reign.

      What if the high profile DIE bureaucracy and “equity”/”equality” has all just been for show? What if UVa is really a meritocracy where everyone has equality to apply but that admits only the most qualified students and excludes the rest? What if the 55/45 female/male split and the 97.4/2.6 non black male/black male student population actually mirrors the abilities of Virginia’s kids who apply for admission?

      Cause is often hard to identify, but we can easily see and quantify the behavior. There are big disparities in the student body, and they appear to be getting bigger. The expensive high profile facade of DIE has been at best an ineffective charade. That is deserving of earnest dissection, but more important, ridicule.

      “Equity” 45% males to 55% females. Ha
      “Equity” 2.6% black males to 97.4% non black males. Haha
      “Equity” DIE pull the other one Ryan it’s got bells on. Hahaha

  8. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    Stunning isn’t it how many guys have reached maturity and not figured out that women are way smarter. I knew that long ago. They don’t score as well on the math because of assumptions that impact opportunity, not because of any internal reason. They focus on it early, they do great.

    1. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      Spoken like a true follower of William Shockley.

      “There is no statistically significant difference between the average IQ scores of men and women. Average differences have been reported, however, on some tests of mathematics and verbal ability in certain contexts.”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_intelligence#:~:text=There%20is%20no%20statistically%20significant,verbal%20ability%20in%20certain%20contexts.

      I believe that boys mature more slowly than girls and that maturity gap is especially evident during the ages that children are in high school (14 – 18).

      “Scientists at Newcastle University in the U.K. have discovered that girls tend to optimize brain connections earlier than boys. The researchers conclude that this may explain why females generally mature faster in certain cognitive and emotional areas than males during childhood and adolescence.”

      Despite the relative speed of maturity, boys do catch up. Yet, during high school, boys are less mature.

      Enter “equity”.

      Here is a good definition of equity, “For instance, someone who is deaf would be expected to receive the same kind of education as someone who can hear clearly. In fact, a blind student will be taught at the same pace as a student that see vividly. Hence, the right term should be equity not equality since this would mean that the students should receive education with respect to their differences. That is, a book for the blind should be created and the deaf should be taught sign language.”

      So, if boys are just as smart as girls but mature more slowly (due to biology) then “equity” demands that boys get special dispensation based on their biological handicap, just like biologically deaf people should be taught with sign language and biologically blind people should be given braille textbooks (among other accommodations).

      1. Teddy007 Avatar
        Teddy007

        The solution for boys maturing slower is to red shirt boys and have them start school later. That would mean a lot of boys graduating high school at 19 y/o. There is also the issue of moving classes like Algebra I down to 7th grade that benefits girls over boys.

        1. DJRippert Avatar
          DJRippert

          But those slower to mature boys with the lower GPAs still outscore those more mature girls with higher GPAs on the ACT – especially in math.

          Maybe GPA is a very flawed and inconsistent way to measure how much a student has learned.

          1. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            But high ACT scores with mediocre math grades is a sign to not admit the student. The SAT/ACT scores is a way to identify student who would not be in certain majors or programs. As an example, anyone with A’s in high school calculus but has a 600 on the SAT math test should not be majoring in math or physics or engineering. That is the real benefit. In previous decades admitting males with high SAT scores but bad grades worked within a system of weeding out students. Universities did not have to worry if a few of the high SAT scores flunked out. These days where the university is only admitting 16% of applicants, there is no room for bad grades.

    2. WayneS Avatar

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zr3ZyoBGyw

      RIP Harry Belafonte: 03/01/1927 – 04/25/2023

      1. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        I’d never seen that!

        1. WayneS Avatar

          My father played the 1959 album “Belafonte at Carnegie Hall” quite often in our house while I was growing up. That’s one of my favorite songs from that record.

        2. WayneS Avatar

          Here’s another great song that is on the Carnegie Hall album.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh1ow6zKapQ

      2. Lefty665 Avatar
        Lefty665

        Belafonte was great.

  9. DJRippert Avatar
    DJRippert

    My summarized thoughts:

    1. Through some opaque aspect of its admissions process, the University of Virginia has been admitting notably more women than men.

    2. There is no statistically relevant difference in intelligence between men and women.

    3. Nationally, women graduate from high school with higher GPAs while men score better on the ACT overall (2013 data).

    4. It is scientifically accepted that girls mature more quickly than boys, both physically and intellectually. The underpinnings of this are biological. The boys eventually catch up but through high school (on average) girls are more physically and intellectually mature than boys.

    5. My conjecture: the faster biologically-based intellectual maturity of girls during the high school years explains the difference in high school GPAs. That difference is 0.17.

    6. My conjecture: the biological maturity gap between women and men in college shrinks, but does not totally disappear. Women graduate from college with a 0.1 GPA advantage over men, significantly less than the high school gap.

    https://clear.dol.gov/study/women-men-and-academic-performance-science-and-engineering-gender-difference-undergraduate

    7. Equity is the philosophy which holds that certain groups of people should be extended unique accommodations when events outside of those peoples’ control have put them at a relative disadvantage compared with others. These accommodations may not be available to everybody. Oft-cited examples include supporting deaf people through the use of sign language and extra tutoring for college students with high potential who have been handicapped by an inferior K-12 education.

    8. Assuming that UVa’s men / women admissions disparity is based on a heavy reliance on grade point average (or GPA based class rank) as an admission criteria, that would fly in the face of equity. Biological factors create a temporary maturity gap between boys and girls, particularly during the high school years. This gap creates a situation where boys are, through no fault of their own, behind girls from a high school GPA perspective. By the logic of equity, the admission criteria should should vary between boys and girls giving boys the “hand up” required to overcome an unequal starting point caused by a temporary biological gap in maturity.

    Alternately, colleges could rely on ACT scores which would immediately solve the problem since those higher GPAs apparently do not translate into tests of retained knowledge.

    1. Nicely put. You’ve framed the issue really well.

    2. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Maybe, just maybe, after centuries of being failed by men, women are realizing that equity means taking command of their own lives, and for them, it means education and a career.

  10. ONLY two genders —- how limiting!!!!!!!!!!!
    UVA admin MUST attend a re-education camp.

  11. Don, somewhere in this thread, you lamented the lack of publicly available info on the geographic distribution of UVa’s student body. That data does, in fact, exist on the SCHEV website. Here it is: https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/E12RA_Report.asp

    Have fun with the data. I expect you’ll find that Northern Virginia gets equal treatment on a per-capita basis. But that leaves unanswered the question of whether NoVa is under-represented based on meritocratic criteria. If we could get a breakdown of SAT scores, we could probably demonstrate your suspicion to be true.

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