Nathan Connolly and Shani Mott in front of their Baltimore home Photo credit: New York Times

by Dick Hall-Sizemore

For those folks on this blog who keep denying that systemic racism either ever existed or is still a factor in today’s society, I offer an incident reported in today’s New York Times as evidence that systemic racism is still alive and operating to discriminate against Blacks.

Last summer, a Black couple in Baltimore, Nathan Connolly and Shani Mott, decided to take advantage of low mortgage rates and refinance their home. They found a lender willing to lend them the money. However, the appraisal for the house came in at $472,000, only $22,000 more than what they had paid for the house five years ago. Keep in mind that home values had been escalating significantly over the past few years.

Dr. Connolly, who is a history professor at Johns Hopkins University, and whose special area of research has been the role of race in the housing market, thought he knew why the appraisal came in much lower that they had anticipated.

To test his theory, the couple tried an experiment. A few months later, they applied for refinancing with a different loan company which used a different appraisal company. Before the appraiser arrived, the couple removed all their family pictures, replacing them with pictures of white families they had borrowed; removed all their childrens’ drawings from walls, refrigerator, etc.; cleared their bookshelves of books by Black authors; and hung art bought from Ikea that showed White people. Finally, instead of the couple and their children being in the home when the appraiser came, as was the case the first time, a White colleague from Johns Hopkins answered the door and showed the appraiser around. In summary, the house had been “whitewashed.”

The second appraisal? $750,000. They got their refinancing.

The first appraiser selected as comps homes valued in the $435,000-$545,000 range. At least one was in another, majority-Black neighborhood. (The home being appraised is in a majority-White neighborhood.) The couple is suing the first loan company, the appraisal company, and the appraiser.

This is not an isolated incident. Similar examples abound from all regions of the country. See here and here. In some instances, a mixed-race couple was involved. For the second appraisal, only the White partner was at home. In other cases, they did what the Baltimore couple did—removed Black-oriented pictures, art, and books by Black authors. In each instance, after the house was “whitewashed,” the appraisal went up.


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95 responses to “Systemic Racism Lives”

  1. WayneS’s purely pedantic post of the day: Denying that something ‘never existed’ is the same as claiming it existed. I do not think that was the meaning you intended with your opening statement.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      We are all just pigments of an imagination. I fancy a more colorful variation.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MBbT40H74sc

    2. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      You are correct. Thanks. I have fixed it.

  2. On the subject of the article: The actions of the first appraiser were prejudiced. Whether it was overtly intentional or at a subconscious level, it was wrong and unfair. I hope the lawsuit filed by Prof. Connolly and Ms. Mott is successful.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      It should be interesting to see what they discover in the company files

      1. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        This is how Tim Kaine made his millions, a red lining lawsuit. Was it commonplace 30-40 years ago? Oh, yeah. You have to be pretty hard core KKK to try to deny somebody a refi that will produce some fees for your employers.

      2. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        This is how Tim Kaine made his millions, a red lining lawsuit. Was it commonplace 30-40 years ago? Oh, yeah. But you have to be pretty hard core KKK in this time period to try to deny somebody a refi that will produce some fees for your employers.

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          Not according to this tale. That’s the point of exposing extant racist behavior that persists in lurking in the society.

    2. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      In all my years of reading this blog I’m not aware of anyone (any named respondent anyway) claiming there is no history of blatant racism, or that if no longer exists anywhere. That is a Larry-style straw man, Dick, erected just to be knocked down in triumph. As to whether this instance proves anything, that’s another matter. A court and perhaps the state licensing board will decide. Lenders do not make it their business to turn down perfectly viable loans — they are so racist they want to lose money?? Greed usually triumphs. And having represented the appraisers along with the Realtors years ago, no shortage of instances all across the map of outcomes that seem absurd and get contradicted by a second appraisal. As the story seemed to indicate, it can be as simple as the comps chosen.

      Trying to think of the last time I had an appraiser even enter the property beyond just viewing from the street or yard….None in recent years came in to see our artwork.

      1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
        Dick Hall-Sizemore

        There are some who, while admitting blatant racism existed, can’t seem to bring themselves to admitting that the racism became embedded in society and the system.

        1. Stephen Haner Avatar
          Stephen Haner

          Whatever makes you feel virtuous….

        2. walter smith Avatar
          walter smith

          Who?

      2. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        The piece is about an instance of systemic – not blatant – racism. The issue is an instance of racism not a full on CRT analysis.

        1. DJRippert Avatar
          DJRippert

          As usual, I have no idea what you point might be. If you are saying that this is a single example of possible racism rather than systemic racism – I agree.

  3. Damn those Jim Crow Yankees

  4. LesGabriel Avatar
    LesGabriel

    I don’t think I have ever heard of anyone who has argues that systemic racism has never existed in the U.S. To do so, they would have to argue that Jim Crow laws, the KKK, and a whole host of other laws and practices did not exist (i.E., were part of some vast conspiracy). Whether, and to what extent, the remnants of systemic racism still exist is another question. Surely, we can all agree that enormous strides have been made in the past 60 or 70 years.

    1. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Jim Crow and other schemes were hardly systemic, more blatant, as they permeated many societies. Systemic applies to the residual effects of schemes like Jim Crow, the lesser visible effects of racism.

      1. Matt Adams Avatar
        Matt Adams

        “done or acting according to a fixed plan or system; methodical.”

        Humm me thinks you don’t know what systematic means, a common occurrence with you and bigger than one syllable words.

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          Doesn’t include ubiquity or universality.

          1. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Moving goalposts I see, maybe you should quit while you’re behind pumpkin.

          2. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            The field is simply beyond your cognition. If all you have is insult, take a nap.

          3. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            “a minute ago
            The field is simply beyond your cognition. If all you have is insult, take a nap.”

            Humorous and highly ironic, you bemoaning an insult while invoking an insult.

            If there were a reward for lack of self-awareness you’d be the front runner Jimmie.

          4. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            McCarthy is supposedly a lawyer who moved from New York City to Northern Virginia. The lack of logic he demonstrates in his comments make one wonder. I’d expect better from a NYC lawyer.

          5. Lefty665 Avatar

            Maybe the good ones moved to Philly.

        2. DJRippert Avatar
          DJRippert

          No kidding. Mr. McCarthy’s comments are frequently unintelligible.

  5. Ronnie Chappell Avatar
    Ronnie Chappell

    Hard to deny racism in this case. But given how transparent home values and real estate transactions are in the age of Zillow, online tax assessments and the online MLS — it is hard to argue the racism of one appraiser is “systemic.” The sample in this story — 2 appraisals — is too small to draw any conclusions about systemic racism in housing appraisals. If ten other appraisers assessed the house and low-balled the value the claim would be more convincing. And while the homeowner asserts that “whitewashing” his house led to a huge increase in appraised value, I don’t see an admission from the second appraiser that he considered anything other than house size, location, condition and recent sales in the same neighborhood.

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      For the second appraiser, that was all he had to consider. All indications that a Black family lived there had been removed.

      I might agree with you that this could be a single incident or just one biased appraiser, but the other stories linked to tell of similar incidents in other parts of the country.

      1. Ronnie Chappell Avatar
        Ronnie Chappell

        Which is why in a real experiment subsequent appraisals would have been done with evidence that a black family lived in the house. In the second instance it is impossible to know whether the appraisal would have been influenced by knowledge of the homeowner’s race. I have seen similar stories involving Black homeowners in other cities. I’m not denying that Blacks still experience racism. But these housing stories fall far short of proving the racism is systemic because, like this one, the sample sizes are too small and the data about home values too transparent and too easily accessed. More convincing to me are the studies of how differently job applicants with identical resumes are treated depending on whether their names sound “Black” or “white” or “Asian.”

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          The article does not represent a scientific study but stands as an example.

          1. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            But the title of the article is “Systemic racism lives”. A single example does not define a system.

            Why is this hard?

    2. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      What? One data point doesn’t define a system? I guess liberal arts majors never studied probability and statistics.

  6. Cassie Gentry Avatar
    Cassie Gentry

    I’m not sure if I believe this story. There are so many similar accounts that are simply exercises in creative writing, that such a gross disparity in appraisals raises suspicions itself. But the narrative about whitewashing the house seems just a bit too cute.

    1. Rafaelo Avatar

      I do believe it, because: lawsuit. The story will be vetted by defense counsel.

      Perhaps we should pin down what “system?” was racist?

      Not the refinance fill-out-the form. Nor presumably — for the sake of exploring the logic of systemic racism we’ll assume — the racist was not the appraiser. That would be individual rather than systemic racism.

      What system? There is a major clue in the story: “Baltimore.”

      Baltimore is a checkerboard of black-on-black gang war zones and safe(r) white neighborhoods. If the appraisal compares your house only to those in a white neighborhood, the lack of bullet holes ups the appraisal.

      If you include black neighborhoods, the ugly economic reality is, war zones have cheaper housing. That’s why they’re war zones.

      So the “system” that is systemic racism is Baltimore’s real estate market, in which violent gangs create major differences in house value. No nefarious City Councilor said “we’re zoning that street as a gang war zone.” It just happens.

      Good luck with the lawsuit sir, but you’ve got the wrong defendants.

      1. DJRippert Avatar
        DJRippert

        The City of Baltimore is, by far, majority Black. It was 62+% Black in the 2020 Census. If there is “systemic” racism in the City of Baltimore it must be supported and condoned by the Black majority.

        This would have been a better story in a place like McLean, Va.

    2. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      What, what? The Old Grey Lady printing a story that fits its world view? Shocker…Every stated fact could be true and it still wouldn’t prove the claim that Appraiser A was a racist and Appraiser B was not. You may suspect, but there is no proof. More evidence may surface. A pattern for the lender would be the most damning. When selling a house, plenty of Realtors strongly advise decluttering, including removal of personal photos, diplomas, etc. Again, question one for me would be did both or either appraiser actually enter the property? They often do not for a simple refi.

      1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
        Dick Hall-Sizemore

        I neglected to include a link to the NYT story. I have fixed that oversight. Although not explicit, the story strongly implies that appraisers entered the home on both occasions.

  7. Crosswalks to Nowhere Avatar
    Crosswalks to Nowhere

    Something similar to this topic is the latest episode of Joe Rogan about the innocence project

  8. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    3 anecdotal incidents equates a national systemic race crisis? Where is the exhaustive study with miles of data that quantifies such a crisis?

    The Baltimore family likely faced de facto not systemic.

    1. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Aha!!! De facto makes it all better especially to the white stand ins.

  9. Lefty665 Avatar

    Dr. Connolly, who is a history professor at Johns Hopkins University and whose special area of research has been the role of race in the housing market, thought he knew why the appraisal came in much lower that they had anticipated.

    He may be exactly right, but he is hardly a disinterested researcher. Did his expectations influence the outcomes? Does racism still exist in America? Absolutely. Does that prove it is systemic and pervasive? No.

    America changed in the ’60s with the Civil Rights Act in ’64, the Voting Rights Act in ’65 and the Fair Housing Act in ’68. Post 1970 America is far different than it was even a decade earlier. 1960 had more in common with 1890 than it did with 1970.

    Are there still racist warts and wrongs? Youbetcha, and they need continuing effort to be eliminated. To tar the whole country and its culture on anecdotal events in 2022 is foolish. This one thing appears wrong therefore everything is wrong is profoundly flawed illogic.

    1. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      DHS’s article does not tar the nation ubiquitously or universally. The persistence of racist warts and wrongs is a reminder of the subtle effects of blatant racism. Too many examples continue to exist to ignore. Not everything is wrong, but the past has inflicted substantial damage that continues to haunt our culture and society. Seems a better thing to be reminded of these stories than to be shielded from them.

      1. Lefty665 Avatar

        “For those folks on this blog who keep denying that systemic racismeither ever existed or is still a factor in today’s society, I offer an incident reported in today’s
        as evidence that systemic racism is still alive and operating to discriminate against Blacks”.

        Uh, that is the lede from the article. That certainly appears to “tar the nation ubiquitously or universally”

        “Too many examples continue to exist to ignore… Seems a better thing to be reminded of these stories than to be shielded from them.”

        Nobody has suggested either of those things except DH-S and you. Please stop with the straw man nonsense.

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          The opening remains neither ubiquitous nor universal. The statement applies to folks “on this blog.” The content suggests that systemic racism may appear widely dispersed geographically. I believe the meaning of the author is to remind folks on this blog of that potential.

          1. Lefty665 Avatar

            You think that “systemic racism either ever existed or is still a factor in today’s society” /i> means “neither ubiquitous nor universal”? WTF?

          2. Lefty665 Avatar

            You think that “systemic racism either ever existed or is still a factor in today’s society” means “neither ubiquitous nor universal”? WTF?

          3. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Yup. Ubiquitous means everywhere; universal means by all people.

          4. Lefty665 Avatar

            So does systemic. The whole culture is infested with it, it is universal, everywhere.

            I suggest a book for you, “Woke Racism – How a New religion Has Betrayed Black America” by John McWhorter, a black man. In it he debunks the kind of nonsense you are touting. He also observes that a couple of times a year he encounters racist behavior. He considers that an individual aberration. He does not consider that systemic.

          5. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Would you look at this DHS’s personal lackey coming to his aid as always. Telling you what you read with your own two eyes isn’t want DHS meant at all.

          6. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            OTOH, the comment suggests a reading for me.

          7. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Umm nope, you’ve got an awful lot of brown on that nose and a history of this behavior on DHS articles that says otherwise.

          8. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Adult conversation and discussion are the order of the day. Any jamoke can fling insults.

          9. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            “Adult conversation and discussion are the order of the day. Any jamoke can fling insults.”

            Says the octogenarian flinging insults without a hint of irony.

            Can’t make this stuff up. If it’s an adult conversation, you wouldn’t or shouldn’t be a apart of it.

          10. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Go to your room, time out. Jamokes and ageists should not be heard.

          11. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            “Go to your room, time out. Jamokes and ageists should not be heard.”

            “characterized by or showing prejudice or discrimination on the grounds of a person’s age.”

            Welp, guess there is another word you don’t know the meaning of.

            Don’t be a jagoff and you won’t get hoisted by your own petard.

          12. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            OK.

          13. Lefty665 Avatar

            And he wonders where the smell is coming from.

          14. Lefty665 Avatar

            McWhorter is good, and he’s from Philly so from your neck of the woods. It is interesting and he’s primarily a linguist so the text is as eminently enjoyable reading as the content is compelling.

            https://www.amazon.com/s?k=woke+racism+john+mcwhorter&crid=23ZZPVHVSNUUV&sprefix=woke+ra%2Caps%2C98&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_2_7

          15. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            I’m from The Bronx. Philly is hardly a close neighborhood. I worked for several years in NYC’s Harlem where first hand experiences were a daily menu. Thanx for the referral source. Got ten books already in the queue.

          16. Lefty665 Avatar

            You’re right, it’s not. It identifies similarly, but without as much money:) McWhorter teaches at Columbia, so a little closer to home.

            I see on Amazon that there is now a Summary of Woke Racism. That might move it up in your queue, and the price is right.

            https://www.amazon.com/Summary-Woke-Racism-John-McWhorter/dp/B09L4Z7H92/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1660859697&sr=8-2

          17. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Harlem can no longer be characterized as lacking wealth as its real estate is now a premium including faculty from Columbia. I will wait until Amazon offers a summary of Woke Conservatism as exhibited on this blog. I miss the snobbery of WF Buckley. Contemporary conservatives are not only boring but mere cultural wokeists.

          18. Lefty665 Avatar

            “I will wait until Amazon…”

            Too bad. McWhorter can help you understand that using woke racism terms like “systemic racism” that you say you do not believe in with your comment that “IMO, there are folks who are not infected by racism or neighborhoods infested by it.”, is a profound disservice to black people.

            McWhorter can also help you understand that the religion of woke racism damages black Americans and race relations.

            The alternative to woke racism is not conservative. It is simply rational. Your attempt to tar it as a political position is shabby.

            Again I encourage you to read at least the summary edition of McWhorter. At $7.99 it is an inexpensive education.

          19. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            I believe the response you received can be surmised as this, “The work you’ve suggested goes against my cognitive bias, therefore I will not read it.”

          20. Lefty665 Avatar

            Yeah, but it’s too bad. People like McCarthy and DH-S are who McWhorter was writing for.

          21. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Also, Philly is in the “neck of the woods”. It’s only 107 miles.

          22. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            If “woke racism” is not a political view, why is it so characterized as woke, a conservative bash. Nor did I say woke racism is conservative nor contravened by conservatism. Only that “woke” is also a condition of conservatives.

          23. Lefty665 Avatar

            Woke racism is a religion. A religious cult.

          24. Lefty665 Avatar

            Some defender, he’s arguing that what DHS said was not what DHS said. With friends like that who needs enemies?

          25. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            He also has a very bad habit of using words incorrectly, to I surmise sound intelligent.

          26. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Some may conclude that systemic applies to all people and include everyplace. IMO, there are folks who are not infected by racism or neighborhoods infested by it.

          27. Lefty665 Avatar

            Good:)

            Here’s an example: The cancer was in a lymph node. It was removed and the patient was cured. Versus: The cancer in a lymph node metastasized. It is now systemic and unoperable.

          28. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            Systemic certainly is not defined by a single incident. Can we at least agree on that?

          29. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Sure. Never said it is evidenced by a single incident.

          30. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            Baltimore is 62% Black. 10 of the 15 City Council members are Black. Maryland is a deep blue state. If systemic racism exists in Baltimore, Maryland – what does that say about Democrat run areas?

          31. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Nothing.

      2. DJRippert Avatar
        DJRippert

        For once, I both understand and agree with one of your comments.

  10. Donald Smith Avatar
    Donald Smith

    Okay Dick, what do you propose we do, based on this incident? What actions should we take, and who should be punished and for what? What is the path forward?

    Does anyone really believe that loan and appraisal companies who operate in the Baltimore market—one of the most progressive parts of the country—are under the influence of the United Daughters of the Confederacy? No. Rational people presume that progressives run all of D.C., Northern VA and the MD coastal area—which includes Baltimore! So, it has to be progressives who did this!

    If white urban progressives can’t treat Blacks fairly—which seems to be what you’re implying here—then where does that leave us?

    I’ve noticed that your piece doesn’t end with suggestions on what we should do. You don’t give us a way forward. So, I’m asking—what is your solution?

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      If I had THE solution, I would be rich. The only solution I can suggest is that we be aware that the effects of the past official, pervasive racism are still present in society and that racism still lurks in many areas and manifests itself in many, sometimes subtle, ways. That awareness is essential to eliminating it eventually.

      Many folks participating on this blog readily accept that a one-year disruption in the state’s schools has had a profound effect on overall student achievement and that recovering from that disruption will take a “multiyear recovery effort”, in the words of the Superintendent of Public Instruction. Therefore, I cannot understand the reluctance to accept that the effects of a much more pervasive “disruption”, i.e. overt racial discrimination in all areas of life, that affected several generations of Blacks are still present today, although in a less virulent and pervasive way.

      1. DJRippert Avatar
        DJRippert

        Because the educational achievement decline was illustrated by hundreds of thousands (?) of standardized tests and you example of “systemic” racism was illustrated by a single incident.

      2. That is an interesting analogy. I had not thought of it like that before. You make a valid and salient point. Thank you.

        1. Lefty665 Avatar

          He set up a straw man by conflating residual effects of past discrimination with current white systemic racism (a tenet of woke racism). He then knocks the straw man down by condemning reluctance to accept current society as systematically racist as white racist refusal to acknowledge that residual issues even exist.

          No one I am aware of denies that we have residual issues to deal with. However, many reject the accusation that residue is currently “overt racial discrimination in all areas of life”.

          The religion of woke racism is a funny cult. In many ways it prevents us from dealing with issues (some residual) and making America a better place for all.

      3. Lefty665 Avatar

        racism still lurks in many areas and manifests itself in many, sometimes subtle, ways.

        Clearly we need a new term. How about “micro racism” to describe those systemic abuses that are too subtle to see. We could provide training paired with micro aggression and micro cognition.

        It could be a whole new realm of micro equity issues with deans and confessionals. Sessions could start like 12 step programs “My name is _______ and I am a micro equityoholic specializing in micro ______.” Maybe parading through the streets lashing themselves with thorns.

        I encourage you to read: “Woke Racism – How a New Religion Has Betrayed Black America” by John McWhorter. He is a black man so has standing to have an opinion and perspective us honkys lack.

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          Would microcrypto racism suffice? Or cryptomicro.

          1. Lefty665 Avatar

            You would prefer enciphered racism???

      4. Lefty665 Avatar

        “Therefore, I cannot understand the reluctance to accept that the effects of a much more pervasive “disruption”, i.e. overt racial discrimination in all areas of life, that affected several generations of Blacks are still present today, although in a less virulent and pervasive way.”

        I don’t know that there is any refusal to accept that there are downstream effects of past discrimination. The refusal rejects the mischaracterization that those effects constitute systemic discrimination today.

        The lingering effects of past racism are not themselves systemic racism today. Although there are still individual instances of racism today, as possibly illustrated by your post, our current society is not systematically racist.

        For example, historically lower capital formation in black American families due in part to prior housing discrimination is a very real problem, but it is not the result of systemic racism today. The Fair Housing Act of 1968 changed the law to make systemic housing discrimination illegal. That is more than 50 years ago, and no law is perfectly effective, but it directly addressed the problem more than half a century ago.

        Did past discrimination leave a legacy of problems that need to be addressed? Yes, but because those problems were not instantly resolved is not evidence of current systemic racism.

        The religion of woke racism that brands America today as systemically racist and all white people as racist with every breath they take is itself racist. By intentionally obfuscating the issue that hinders rather than helps in dealing with the downstream effects of long ago discrimination.

        I appreciate your ongoing interest in ameliorating the long term effects of past wrongs. But, adopting woke systemic racism framing where it no longer exists is counter productive. It hinders rather than helps to make a better more equitable America.

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          Sounds like there are grounds upon which to agree. Systemic racism is not only white. It is, as you note, the residuals of overt or blatant racism that continues to emerge in certain instances or circumstances. The systemic feature connotes its residualness not necessarily its pervasiveness. If woke systemic racism is overly broad and harmful, finding a new agreeable term seems like a good idea. Especially where such term defuses the religious and political components.

          1. Lefty665 Avatar

            NO! Do NOT put your words in my mouth. The residuals of past racism are NOT current “systemic racism”.

            NO! “systemic” does not mean “residual”. It means “pervasive”. You can repeat that idiocy as often as you want, but that does not make it so. Nor has it ever been so except in your fevered imagination. The chances seem high you also believe the world is flat.

            The religion of woke racism is what is harmful. The chances of defusing its harmfulness short of exorcism are slim and none. Read McWhorter.

            Thanks for doing Jim McCarthy’s silly systemic racism walk. It is another in a growing collection of Jim McCarthy’s silly walks. Quite a repertoire you are assembling. Congrats.

          2. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            No consensus; no peace. You must have it correct. Cheers!

  11. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Why this is Hell, nor am I out of it.

    How was it that Milton described Pandemonium? A cacophony was it? Repetitious meaningless sound. Wails and gnashing. We’ve succeeded. We call it “The Internet”. Welcome to a small corner.

  12. Warmac9999 Avatar
    Warmac9999

    I think “why” is a good question. What would trigger such different appraisals For example, BLM rioting in Baltimore could certainly suppress home value for a limited period of time particularly if the couple involved appeared to be heavily into the violence of the BLM movement. Economic timing is also critical as well. Neighborhood quality is taken into account – redistricting for schooling can make an undesirable neighborhood suddenly desirable. Also, most valuation are tied to comparables and nothing is said in this article about how comparables were determined – if the house is unusual it is difficult to determine comparable. It will be interesting to see the outcome of this case.

    Oh, my grandparents were injured by unscrupulous realtors about 100 years ago. The realtors would hire a black couple to walk a white neighborhood so as to scare the owners into selling. Then the realtors would buy the neighborhood for virtually nothing and resell it at much higher prices to black purchases.

    1. The article did discuss comps – in fact, I would guess that the comps chosen by the appraisers had a lot to do with the difference in appraised value between the two. The question is, why the first appraiser chose the particular “comparable” properties that he chose.

      The first appraiser selected as comps homes valued in the $435,000-$545,000 range. At least one was in another, majority-Black neighborhood. (The home being appraised is in a majority-White neighborhood.)

      1. Lefty665 Avatar

        Or the second. Perhaps real value was somewhere between the two. But we will never know because there was no sale to establish actual value. It was just a refi.

        It would also not be unheard of for a lender to choose appraisers who match their lending preferences. Aggressive lenders use appraisers whose appraisals facilitate qualifying. More cautious lenders choose appraisers who are also more cautious in their appraisals to reduce risk. There is nothing inherently racist in that. But, it could result in significant differences in appraised values and even at the same lender as money supply, policies or loan officers change.

        It could also be racist. It will be interesting to see how the court rules or the insurers settle to cap their potential losses.

  13. First: not systemic. Rather–even on the assumptions most charitable to your hypothesis–a matter of individual error or bias.

    Second: you may not have a lot of experience with property appraisals, but they are a dicey, largely subjective game. We had one come in on our house recently that was $100k under its actual value (a much larger percentage error here than a $100k error would be in Baltimore). So low and incompetent, in fact, that the bank refused to pay the appraiser for it.

    Third: the plural of ‘anecdote’ is not ‘data.’

    Finally, even when such errors occur, they are often faulty inductions–e.g. an induction from the fact that the homes of black families are commonly less valuable than those of white families.

    I’m perfectly willing to admit this is a real phenomenon–given decent evidence. But what we see these days is people in love with the hot! new! idea! systemic racism!!! They assume it’s everywhere, so they see it everywhere. One anecdote is enough if you really want to believe.

  14. killerhertz Avatar
    killerhertz

    You’d have to be a moron to refinance a property for $745k in b’more. The appraiser was probably trying to help him out so the family wouldn’t be mired in debt.

  15. VaPragamtist Avatar
    VaPragamtist

    There’s certainly racism and systemic racism.

    That said, some flaws in this “experiment”:

    1. “last summer” vs “a few months later”–what were the dates? Did the market change at all during that time? How many homes were sold during that time? What was the housing stock for each time period?

    2. What are each appraisers’ methods or policies regarding comps? Might sheer laziness be taken into consideration? How objectively comparable are the comps in each scenario?

    3. Does the presence of children impact the way an appraiser looks at a house (rightly or wrongly)? In the first scenario, children were a variable; the second scenario mentions no children. How do we know race was the primary variable?

    4. “Dr. Connolly, who is a history professor at Johns Hopkins University, and whose special area of research has been the role of race in the housing market”–how did Dr. Connolly mitigate his own confirmation bias in performing his experiment?

    Finally, looking at Dr. Connolly’s CV, I’m not seeing this historian considers himself an expert on the current role of race in the housing market, or on conducting related experiments.

    Seems like we have a case of an individual using academic credentials to give legitimacy to his lawsuit. . .but through an “experiment” lacking in scholarly integrity.

  16. M. Purdy Avatar

    Thanks for writing this piece. It’s not likely to change any minds, especially among the VMI alums who are entirely focused on advancing their fantasy world, but thoughtful, unbiased people will come around.

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