Statue Preservationists, Find Better Ground!

Stonewall Jackson statue at Manassas Battlefield. Photo credit: Mr.TinMD

by Donald Smith

God, give me the strength to change what I can, the serenity to accept what I cannot, and the wisdom to know the difference.

That’s the “Serenity Prayer,” and those of us who want to see Virginia’s Confederate heritage respected (or at least tolerated) need to say it. Often specifically, we need the wisdom to know what’s possible and what isn’t, and the serenity to accept the changes in our communities and culture that won’t be undone. If we do that, we can focus our efforts on new ways to honor our ancestors and those things they fought for that deserve to be honored (home, community, bravery, dedication to duty and your fellow soldiers, the right to self-determination, etc….)

The first step in solving a problem is admitting you have one. Confederate heritage supporters have two tremendous problems: the Confederacy sought to perpetuate slavery and disrupt the Union. For those two reasons alone, every rational American adult should be glad the Confederacy was defeated. (When I read my “Confederate Veteran” magazine from the Sons of Confederate Veterans, I sometimes wonder if some of the authors and editors are actually sorry the South lost.)

For many Americans, those two problems will act like a breaker switch: they will shut off any willingness to consider, much less agree, that some parts of the Confederate cause might be worthy of respect. I’ll stipulate that, if I were an African-American, I wouldn’t take kindly to a statue of Lee, Jackson, Davis or Stuart at a prominent location in my hometown. Especially if I knew the vast majority of my neighbors felt the same way, and I also knew that the people who erected and respected the statue died or moved away decades ago. Whites are a minority to people of color in both Richmond and Norfolk; the percentage of White-to-Black residents in both cities is roughly equal. If it’s my city now, I would want it to reflect my values. Wouldn’t we all feel the same way?

Many modern-day Virginians don’t feel the same ties to our Confederate past that our parents and grandparents did, regardless of color. To state the obvious: Virginia has changed a lot in the one hundred and fifty-seven years since Appomattox. That’s especially true of our cities, where most of the statues and monuments stand. Cities tend to be more liberal and progressive than rural areas. Many Virginians see Confederate statues as symbols that the state is mired in its past — a past that doesn’t resonate with the majority of Virginia’s city dwellers. The peak years of immigration from Europe were in the late 1800s and early 1900s. That means lots of Virginians have ancestors that came to Virginia over a hundred years ago, and long after the Civil War was over.

Yes, Virginia’s cities have changed — but cities always change. Their populations are always more diverse and fluid than rural areas. The New York City-area church where I married my wife no longer has English-language masses, because the neighborhood is no longer Polish/Italian/Irish. It’s Hispanic. In an episode of The Sopranos, a Mafia boss walked along the streets of the Little Italy neighborhood he grew up in, oblivious to his surroundings as he talked on his cell phone. Ending the call, he looked around, and saw that the stores now had Chinese names instead of Italian. His boyhood home had been absorbed by Chinatown.

Is it really that important if Confederate soldiers and generals are respected in Virginia’s cities? Many of Virginia’s cities — Richmond, Norfolk, Charlottesville -are a mess. High levels of crime, terrible public schools, silly progressive leadership, etc… African-American academics John McWhorter and Glenn Loury recently posted this discussion on Substack about how Chicago is deteriorating. Loury calls it “the Great Unraveling,” the downward cycle of crime and despair now gripping Chicago and its surrounding suburbs.

Sounds a lot like Richmond and Norfolk. A close friend, who grew up out-of-state but now lives in Virginia, remarked how sad it was that Richmond, which had crime under control when she first moved to Virginia, no longer did.

The great moments of Civil War history didn’t happen in our cities. There was no great battle of Richmond or Charlottesville or Norfolk. The great battles, and the sites of great heroism by Virginians, were outside the big cities –Chancellorsville, Manassas, Spotsylvania, and the scattered battlefields of the Seven Days and Jackson’s Valley Campaign. If you want to learn about the Civil War, why go to Richmond? Go instead to one of the many battlefields around the city. Drive down the Shenandoah Valley. Trace the route of Jackson’s flanking maneuver around the Army of the Potomac at Chancellorsville.

Why leave statues to Virginia heroes like Lee, Jackson and Stuart in places where miscreants will desecrate them, academics will scorn them, local politicians will scapegoat them as the real cause of the community’s problems, and many well-meaning folk won’t see them as a reflection of their community in modern times? Good generals pick their battles wisely. If they can’t defend the ground they’re on, they move to better ground.

In the 1862 Valley Campaign, Jackson was on the banks of the Potomac River when he heard that Union armies were converging in his rear. Jackson didn’t turn and fight them; he retreated into the Shenandoah Valley, where he had the advantage. In the Western Theater, Joseph E. Johnston built formidable earthworks near the west Georgia town of Resaca and dared Sherman to attack him. Sherman went around his flank instead. Johnston didn’t stay in his earthen forts, where he was now at a disadvantage; he retreated to better ground.

“The past is a foreign country,” said British writer L.P. Hartley. “They do things different there.” They did things a lot differently in Richmond, Charlottesville and Norfolk a hundred years ago than what the current residents do there.  That’s life. So, it’s best to send the statues to communities that will honor and respect them. Find better ground.

Donald Smith was raised in Richmond. His mother was born in a house not far from VMI, and family members still live there.


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52 responses to “Statue Preservationists, Find Better Ground!”

  1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    Mr. Smith, sorry. I like those statues. They mean something to me and many other Virginians.

    1. Donald Smith Avatar
      Donald Smith

      They mean a lot to me, too. So, send them someplace where the locals will show them the respect they deserve, or at least behave themselves and not trash them.

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        The logical conclusion to retreat is defeat. “Retreating” Joe Johnston knew that best.

  2. M. Purdy Avatar

    I like this post, Donald. A reasonable argument.

    1. Donald Smith Avatar
      Donald Smith

      Thanks.

  3. how_it_works Avatar
    how_it_works

    ” The peak years of immigration from Europe were in the late 1800s and early 1900s. That means lots of Virginians have ancestors that came to Virginia over a hundred years ago, and long after the Civil War was over.”

    But not too many of them, because in 1900 less than 1% of Virginians were born outside the USA, and this number did not increase to 2% until 1950. (For Illinois, where my most recent European ancestors immigrated to, the figure for 1900 is 20%).

    The fact is that late 1800s-early 1900s European immigrants saw little of value in Virginia (or the South in general) and by and large didn’t move there.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/08/13/upshot/where-people-in-each-state-were-born.html#Virginia

    I do have ancestors that came to Virginia (see Germanna — Fischbach and Brombach), but they didn’t own slaves and left long before the civil war.

    And in reading that history, sounds like Governor Spotswood pretty much conned them into moving to Virginia, with promises of riches working in a silver mine that never quite panned out.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Oh glaucoma where you can’t see anything at all!

      Or was it Oklahoma??

  4. You said, “Whites are a minority to people of color in both Richmond and Norfolk; the percentage of White-to-Black residents in both cities is roughly equal. If it’s my city now, I would want it to reflect my values. Wouldn’t we all feel the same way?”

    Frankly, no. It doesn’t matter what the racial balance is. Those who want to erase the past can be 8% or 80%–they want what they want. There is more value to adding to our history than destroying it. Those, White and Black, who want the statues gone, don’t seem to care about adding their connections, just erasing anything to do with the Confederacy. I’ve written how our local statue is a memorial to the relatives of many of those still living here who died in the war and never came home. The current Board of Supervisors agreed they would support a memorial for Black veterans or for those who were enslaved. No one in the anti-Confederate statue crowd has even mentioned it, much less acted on it. They were willing to pay for the cost of changing the name of the elementary school from Lee-Jackson though. Not one of them acknowledged the middle school was named for a former slave from the day it was built as an African American school in 1927 and the name kept when the schools were integrated in 1969. History is never one-sided. Add context. Add historical information tracing the changes over time. Add additional forms of remembrance of other groups. This is not the world of 1984, where “Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.” There has to be a middle ground where the past exists.

    1. Donald Smith Avatar
      Donald Smith

      That’s a rational response. Unfortunately, many of the folks running our cities nowadays—the places where most statues stand—have shown themselves to be petty, and sometimes downright venal. (How else can you explain the city of Richmond allowing the Lee statue to be debased for months?) It’s doubtful that’s going to change anytime soon. We have to accept that.

      I’m not saying we can’t get payback. We have many options.

      We can get payback, for example, by pointing out what you just did—the statues had to leave because the current residents of our cities acted selfishly, even childishly. (“Those, White and Black, who want the statues gone, don’t seem to care about adding their connections, just erasing anything to do with the Confederacy.”) Let Louise Lucas and the Richmond City Council explain how the treatment of the Lee statue, and all the graffiti slurs on its pedestal, makes them look good. As I pointed out in an article a few weeks ago, VMI’s explanation for why it had to sandblast Stonewall Jackson’s name off Old Barracks (a National Historic Landmark) is laughably and transparently thin. Point those things out.

      We can also elect senators and delegates who, when these cities come to Richmond begging for state money, spend that money on something else. If we have to accept reality—then so do they.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        Just to keep things level. As far as I know, not a single monument to any of the US other wars, Korean, WWI, WWII, etc have been torn down or moved.

        And most Counties that have named schools and streets for past county leaders and significant citizens also have not been taken down or moved.

        No one has advocated taking down Arthur Ashe statue or the statue of Danny Thomas for St. Judes.

        And for all the “context” folks out there right now – where have they been for the 100+ years there was no context and only Jim Crow monuments?

        Finally, physical symbols and veneration are not “history”.

        You can take down every single statue to Hitler and not a word of history about Hitler will be removed.

        He will STILL be “remembered”.

      2. I cannot accept what’s inherently wrong on the premise that payback is an option. People like Louise Lucas or Eileen Filler-Corn just don’t care what anyone who disagrees has to say. If payback were an acceptable alternative, then what’s the payback on the carnage of the BLM/Antifa riots? There’s a reason this saying has come down through the ages from 2,000 years ago: “If I am not for myself, who will be for me? And if only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when?”

        1. Donald Smith Avatar
          Donald Smith

          How do you plan to compel the city governments to keep, much less protect, Confederate statues that they own or control? These statues are (were) in de facto hostile territory. We tried telling them that they’d look silly and shallow if they got rid of the statues—and they didn’t care. I agree that they shouldn’t have gone crazy over the statues—but they did.

          As for the carnage in the BLM/Antifa riots—the city governments are giving those groups a pass. They know that that makes them look even more silly and weak—and still they don’t care.

  5. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Truly, tin soldiers.

  6. There is one major flaw in your plan. Those who want the statues gone, want them gone, and they will brook no compromise.

    It is not possible to relocate something that has been destroyed.

  7. In 2015, the Islamic State destroyed statues at an archaeological site known as the Nergal Gate. The vandals were angry because statues from 3,000 years past offended their modern sensibilities. The world was outraged.

    For the same reasons, the current residents of Richmond et al want to tear down the statues of Lee and Jackson; are we to applaud?

    Vandalism gives small persons the illusion of power; it takes no brains to destroy – in fact, being stupid makes it easier.

    After their destruction, are they to be replaced with statues of… George Floyd?

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      Perhaps only if George Floyd’s ancestors owned white slaves and killed white folks to be able to keep those slaves?

    2. And, in March of 2001, the Taliban destroyed the Buddhas of Bamiyan.

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        Thanks to our current president the Taliban have enough firepower to blow up every Buddha worldwide.

  8. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    Preserve, protect, and visit the battlefields?? Absolutely!! Move the statues honoring Confederates to those sites (if that is what you are suggesting)?… um… nope…

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      I walk Bloody Angle every other day.

      It has few, if any, of the type of monuments that are being removed from other public spaces. There is one to Sedwick , a union General put there by his troops.

      We have a lot of “walkers” including black folks. The park is not currently a venue to memorialize the Confederacy. So I’d be a bit conflicted but a compromise might be in order.

      Confederate cemeteries would seem to be
      ideal venues and we have them in number
      around Fredericksburg.

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        I think we should let the political leaders (particularly black political leaders) decide the fate of these statues in these cities – that is right and just. The current ones at battlefields are stickier and probably should be left alone generally but none of the Lost Cause statues should be moved there, imo.

        1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
          James Wyatt Whitehead

          “The current ones at battlefields are stickier and probably should be left alone generally” Oh how kind of you Boss Man Eric. So thankful for your benevolence.

      2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        What a bunch of crock Mr. Larry. You and the “black folks” walking the bloody angle trail everyday pass right by this monument. The anguish, the despair, the humiliation; Calgon take me away! “Black Folks”? Sounds paternalistic in modern times.
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1a84503c18bde26034305d09f9b1ac530989c5a295543b10b9199bf195d29d66.jpg

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          This is not a Confederate General astride a horse extolling white supremacy.

          I have no problem with the monument you show – at all. It’s like others that are memorials to those who died on that battlefield.

          Do you not see the difference between this and the Lee and other “confederate” monuments?

          1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            No no no Mr. Larry. In your mind set this is an entire brigade of South Carolinians attempting to inscribe slavery for all time and forever.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            Not true James. That monument, by the way, is much more recent than the others in that park but all of them dedicated to the ordinary soldiers and not a one that looks like this:
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/50d931eaee97a9332dbeaa3eb463ecabc032c9a7399c1938a53cc97b69a0d64e.jpg

          3. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            What about this one? Can we take it down too? Pleeze! I will help. Actually, too big for me. I know this guy. Devon Henry. He works for cheap and bends all the rules to make his magic happen. Explain how Grant, who as president oversaw the killing of a half million Indians, gets to stay in front of the capitol?
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/76c34f1843821287e8f5428a90b9c617e1cda4711a03ce197bcaeb2018f859b5.jpg

          4. Don’t worry, he’ll be next on the list once they have rid us of Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Mason, Henry, etc., etc.

            After all, he was a slave owner.

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        There is no controlling some rightwing extremists these days, eh…?😉

  9. LarrytheG Avatar

    re: ” those of us who want to see Virginia’s Confederate heritage respected (or at least tolerated) ”

    and those that do not.

    so the question is and always has been – do you put things like this in public spaces and impose them on people who do not revere them at all? Why would we do this for ANY statue that is abhorrent to a significant segment of society? What does it mean when you ignore those who abhor these symbols of hate and intolerance?

    When folks say that history is being “erased” when such statues still exist, still are located in places that open to whoever wants to see them, it’s not “history” that is being erased. It’s removing symbols of racial hate and bigotry.

    Why do we insist on imposing such symbols on people who do not revere these statues by claiming that if you can’t impose them on all people, that history is being “erased”. Not one word of “history” has been “erased”.

    These statues were put in public spaces to begin with by organizations like UDC without regard to how these statues affect black citizens, in fact, to impose them on black citizens. It’s more than appropriate after more than a century of imposing these on people who never admired them to begin with – to move them out of public spaces and to spaces where they can be admired by those who want to and not imposed on those who do not.

    1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
      James Wyatt Whitehead

      “to move them out of public spaces and to spaces where they can be admired by those who want to and not imposed on those who do not.”

      But that small slice of reconciliation never happened Mr. Larry. Monument Ave was moved to the waste water plant.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9c1418bc26082b018c73b196b36bcde44852c1cda427da9c1a0450fcc68bcf6f.jpg

      1. And instead of selling their statue of R.E. Lee to people who want to relocate it, the City of Charlottesville has given it to a group who announced in advance their intent to melt it down.

        1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          If, as the author did, you can recognize how the current and past citizens were harmed for decades by these statues being imposed on them, why can you not recognize that this would lead them to seek to completely destroy them when given that power? It seems to me to be human nature at this point, and perhaps just karma.

          1. I did recognize it. That is why I made my comment.

          2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Apparently you recognize but don’t approve or excuse it…

          3. I try not to support hate no matter where it’s coming from.

          4. I try not to support hate no matter where it’s coming from.

          5. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            I have no issue with people hating inanimate objects or symbols. For instance, I’ve got no issue with the destruction of Stalin statues by Russians after the fall of the USSR nor do I have issue with people who react vehemently against Nazi symbols. I think such expressions are healthy and to be expected.

          6. Donald Smith Avatar
            Donald Smith

            “If, as the author did, you can recognize how the current and past citizens were harmed for decades by these statues being imposed on them”

            Um, no, Beavis, that is not what I said or meant. And, how weak do you have to be in order for a statue to harm you? But, if you say so. We can all assume that the people who are attacking the Confederate statues are weak people.

          7. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            “I’ll stipulate that, if I were an African-American, I wouldn’t take kindly to a statue of Lee, Jackson, Davis or Stuart at a prominent location in my hometown. Especially if I knew the vast majority of my neighbors felt the same way, and I also knew that the people who erected and respected the statue died or moved away decades ago.”

            Sorry to take you at your word… I won’t make that mistake again…

      2. LarrytheG Avatar

        That’s true for that location. It’s not true for many other statues and memorials that CAN be moved to non-public venues, and, in fact, some are.

        For me the main point has always been the imposition of these symbols on people who not only do not admire them, they abhor them as symbols of racial hate.

        We’ve continued doing this for more than 100 years without the advocates/supporters of them doing anything about it other than insist the monuments stay where they are no matter how black folks feel about them. To me, that’s continuing racial hate and the reaction to it was not gradual and measured but rapid and somewhat thoughtless, and not unexpected.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            Yes, but not because there have not been other opportunities to do so.

            And did you miss one:

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a5d0d43c5f9b2757a0ddba3549c5631e91eee8ff9ed821a5e8adb5407f25c23d.jpg

            Oh, and this one has NOT been taken down or moved:

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/06c20b5c035c7e8265edca254c6ace3b2503ccb4d4b48d4c2565bd257f37fc6c.jpg

          2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            Uncle John. He was a solid corps commander. Man, why didn’t he duck? He actually saw the artillery shell heading right for him. His staff sought cover.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar

            Didn’t know how he died… sounds relatively painless…all things considered compared to how many others died.

  10. I’ve got a place in mind on my property for Richmond’s Matthew Fontaine Maury statue ( I’m pretty sure it’s the one under the brown tarp at the WWTP in the photo Mr. Whitehead posted).

    I would need to start a ‘go-fund-me’ page to raise money to clear some trees and construct a foundation & plinth, though. And then there is the cost to transport the statue 45-50 miles and set it in place. I’ve got a few connections in the construction industry, so it might not be too bad…

    Of course, go-fund-me would probably not allow me use their website to raise money for such a politically incorrect endeavor. Not to mention the fact that the City of Richmond probably won’t give me the statue…

    Oh well, a guy can dream…

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