When “Social Justice” Leads to Social Injustice

Under the Obama administration, social justice advocates have pushed through a revolution in school disciplinary policies in scores (maybe hundreds) of local school districts across the United States. Whenever minority students are suspended at a higher rate than white students, there is a presumption of prejudice. As former Education Secretary Arne Duncan put it, the disparity in rates of suspension “is not caused by differences in children, it’s caused by differences in training, professional development, and discipline policies. It is adult behavior that needs to change.”

In place of suspensions and other traditional disciplinary tools, the feds imposed a new approach called restorative justice. A student who misbehaves is encouraged to reflect on his actions, take responsibility and resolve to do better. Counseling and dialogue replaces suspensions and other sanctions. This is precisely the approach imposed upon Henrico County Public Schools, as I have blogged about frequently in the past.

How has this all worked out? Enough years have passed that it should be possible to measure the results. One conclusion is beyond dispute: The restorative-justice approach has driven down the number of student suspensions. But has discipline improved? Have educational outcomes improved? There is abundant anecdotal evidence around the country to suggest that more often than not, discipline has gotten worse. Classrooms are being disrupted. Teacher morale is sagging. And the learning experience of orderly students is suffering. But those are just anecdotes. Social justice advocates can cite anecdotes of their own to suggest that the programs are working.

Now comes a study by Max Eden, a senior fellow at the conservative Manhattan Institute: “School Discipline Reform and Disorder.” Drawing upon extensive student and teacher surveys of school conditions, Eden examines the impact of two sets of “reforms” — one under former Mayor Michael Bloomberg, in which suspensions were pruned back for low-level infractions, and a far more aggressive set of reforms under Mayor Bill de Blasio, which set up rigorous administrative hurdles to limit school suspensions and to train teachers to employ the “restorative justice approach.”

Survey questions addressed perceptions of school discipline. Students were asked: Do students get into physical fights? Do students treat each other with respect? Do students drink or use drugs at school? Is there gang activity? Teachers were asked: Are order and discipline maintained?

Eden’s conclusion: “Overall the pattern is consistent and unmistakable: school climate remained relatively steady under Bloomberg’s discipline reforms but has deteriorated rapidly under de Blasio’s.” The decline in discipline has led to an increase in disruptive behavior with significant spill-over effects. Those who suffer ill effects from the disorder in schools are most likely to be poor and minority students. In other words, writes Eden, “Discipline reforms may be doing great harm to students, especially the most vulnerable.”

Bacon’s bottom line: This comes as no surprise. I feared precisely this result when writing about the imposition of restorative justice disciplinary techniques in Henrico a couple of years ago. Given the evidence proffered by New York schools, we need to take a look at the impact in Henrico County, the case with which I am most familiar, and any other Virginia locality where similar measures have been enacted.

Virginians need to know: Is this social experiment having the same negative consequences here? Has school disorder gotten better or worse? Has academic achievement gotten better or worse? Are we, in the name of social justice, imposing untested theories that create even greater social injustices?

The data exists to answer these questions. There is no excuse for not knowing the answers.


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14 responses to “When “Social Justice” Leads to Social Injustice”

  1. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    I can’t believe you actually publish this tripe Bacon…

    ” Conclusion
    Overall, the pattern is consistent and unmistakable:
    school climate remained relatively steady under
    Bloomberg’s discipline reforms but has deteriorated
    rapidly under de Blasio’s. As noted, these findings are
    descriptive, and this strong association is not necessarily
    enough to draw a causal conclusion. And yet, the
    differences between the periods around each reform
    give a strong impression of a causal link. If we assume
    that shifts in school discipline policy do relate to shifts
    in school climate, the implications from this study for
    American education are profound. ”

    this is totally bogus…

    if you want to do a legitimate study on a good sampling of schools and show a real relationship between schools with discipline problems and academic scores or similar – I’d pay attention but this is just wretched..blather.

    Using the word “study” is a disservice to the word itself.

    1. Tripe? Really, Larry? What makes it tripe — the fact that you don’t like the implications of the study?

      How about a critical analysis of how the author reaches his conclusion?

  2. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    Jim – what metrics is he measuring as a relationship to suspensions?

    1. teacher attrition?
    2. academic performance?
    3. graduation rate
    4. school dropouts
    5. referrals to law enforcement?

    How do you “measure” … “climate” when it’s subjective views of
    individuals? perceptions?

    legitimate “studies” look for hard evidence, standardized metrics that mean the same thing no matter the viewpoints..

    These kinds of “studies” are truly “tripe” and I’d say that whether they came from the left or right – but the right seems to be prolific .. and then these “studies” get cited by those who want to use it as justification for potential actions that are under debate as if the “study” was valid.. credible.

    it’s not.. it’s little more than borderline propaganda tailored to folks who want to confirm their biases..

    oops.. NOW I KNOW why you post this stuff!

    I give the right credit – they churn out this offal like there is no tomorrow !

  3. Larry, no conservative could ever meet the standards of proof you set for them. You’ll have credibility only when you apply the same standards of proof to the studies of people who agree with your point of view.

  4. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    Jim – the standards are typical standards.. you want real evidence not viewpoints.

    and yes – I have the very same standards no matter what or who.

    if you want to assert a cause and effect relationship – I want to see good data – real data.. not opinion and viewpoints.

    this is why I said.. show me – one or more of the following or data like
    that.. measureable data.. real data..

    teachers leaving..
    lower academic performance – due to the claimed problems
    a higher dropout rate – indicating people leaving…

    You’re right about Conservatives though – this kind of non-Study they seem to engage in more and more so they can use them to support their ideological biases.

    No one – left or right should be doing this and it does reflect on those who traffic in this tripe.

  5. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    If someone did a REAL study that actually demonstrated REAL changes in things like test scores or teachers leaving or a lower graduation rate or similar metrics – that occurred after weakened discipline measures were implemented – I would find such a study believable and a cause for changes.

    but when you do a study based on “perceptions” it’s not a real study.

    We want policies that do work as intended and we don’t want policies that attempt to fix one thing but break another…. and again – everyone – whether you or left or right should want THAT KIND of study – not this tripe this guy has generated.. and that I KNOW .. WILL BE USED by folks on the right to are opposed ideologically to the concept of changing the way that students are disciplined.

    One thing is pretty certain I think and that is if a student is having problems and you kick him out of school and he ends up on the streets – he’s more than likely in that pipeline to prison. THAT’s at least part of what caused the changes to discipline – to try to change the way the schools deal with his problem.

    If that turns out to truly harm others – real data – not perceptions then we need to reset … but if all this study is – is a bogus attempt to impugn the policy then that’s a disservice to everyone and anyone who truly cares about the problem – as well as “studies” dealing with it should want REAL data upon which to base policies not some people’s ideological beliefs.

  6. djrippert Avatar
    djrippert

    There is nothing wrong with basing conclusions on changes in responses to consistently administered surveys. In the New York City example the same questions were asked of teachers and students year after year. A statistically significant deterioration in certain areas is cause for alarm. What should be alarming is Bill DeBlasio’s (aka Comrade Snowflake’s) elimination of several of the survey’s questions dealing with order and discipline in the classroom. It seems Comrade Snowflake doesn’t want to know whether his plan is working or not.

    I’m also very interested in snowflake logic. In order to change a policy of issuing fewer suspensions there must be rigorous, multi-year studies performed. Of course, there were none of these same studies performed when the decision was made to make suspending students more difficult. No, there was the absurd “school to prison pipeline” argument. This theory was based on the observation that students who get suspended are more likely to drop out and more likely to go to prison than students who don’t get suspended. Ergo, suspension cause crime and making suspending student difficult will alleviate crime. I guess none of the snowflakes considered the possibility that miscreants defy social norms in various ways – including getting suspended, dropping out and committing crimes which send them to prison.

    Anybody who has children knows that being more lax with discipline doesn’t improve behavior. At best, you’ll get no change (because the discipline wasn’t working). At worst, you’ll get deteriorating behavior as the penalties become more and more meaningless.

    The final bit of snowflake irony is the presumption of racism in regard to suspensions in public schools. Perhaps the most liberal, left leaning group of people in America is the union card carrying public school teachers and administrators. Yet it is this leftist group that is visiting racism on the students by differentially suspending minorities. Snowflakes, in effect, charging other snowflakes with racism.

    And finally, a note to right wing nuts … despite Comrade Snowflake’s campaign promises to help New York City become a more equal place the Gini coefficient in the city has risen during his tenure. Compounding the problem has been a startling rise in housing costs. One can’t discuss housing in new York City without the term “crisis” quickly being mentioned. Housing cost escalation is particularly painful to lower income people since it leaves so little for other things – like a computer or broadband connection. Less affluent New Yorkers caught in the vice of rising inequality and skyrocketing housing prices are undoubtedly more stressed out than some years ago. This stress can become toxic with children lashing out in school as one consequence. So, the fact that there have been fewer suspensions is not necessarily the cause for degradation in the level of good order and discipline in New York City schools.

    1. Don, thank you for talking logic and reason to Larry. I just didn’t have the patience to do it. I’m glad you did.

      Regarding your last paragraph, however…. I’m worried that you have reverted to snowflake logic!

      Let’s assume for purposes of argument that the Gini coefficient has in fact increased during de Blasio’s tenure, as you suggest. Does that mark a continuation of trends seen in the Bloomberg administration or a departure from those trends? If it represents a departure, does the inflection point coincide with the abrupt, two-year change in sentiment detected in the New York school surveys? Does that inflection point match the change of sentiment with greater exactitude than the shift in school disciplinary policy?

      Finally, I would ask, does misbehavior at school move up and down in concert with the Gini coefficient, or is the hypothesized link between the two intermediated by other factors such as family breakdown, incarceration, substance abuse, etc. in poor populations that play out over time? If the link is intermediated and plays out over time, it is not a likely explanation of trends in school behaviors that manifest themselves over a two-year period.

      1. djrippert Avatar
        djrippert

        You’re making my point for me. There are a lot of factors that could be causing the breakdown in discipline in New York City’s public schools. Maybe it’s the new suspension rules, maybe not. The survey questions should cause a search for answers not a jump to conclusions. New York City is unique in many ways. Wall Street employs 4% of the workforce but pays 19% of the compensation. I would guess that a very small percentage of the children of those well paid Wall Street employees attend NYC public schools. Wall Street has been on a roll for a long time. Let’s assume that the lives of students from wealthy homes are less stressful than the lives of students from impoverished homes. Further, let’s assume that stress finds its way into the classroom in the form of inappropriate behavior. As the Ginni coefficient increases (which it has since Comrade Snowflake was elected) the richer rich are more likely to send their kids to private schools. Since these kids are (presumably) pampered to the point of consistently good behavior they are no longer a statistical offset in the public schools.

        Where there’s smoke there’s fire. The teachers in the survey are largely the same people year after year. If they say that discipline is eroding I’d guess they are right. Intuitively, as a parent, I’d guess that lowering the severity of punishment for misbehavior would be a factor in reduced discipline. However, the Gini coefficient squeeze and the escalating housing costs have forced up the rate of homelessness in NYC. I can’t even imagine how angry I would have been as a kid if I were suddenly homeless. I read an article about one school in Brooklyn where one in five students were homeless.

        1. I’ll buy your argument about homelessness — that would be a major stress inducer. I wonder if New York City tracks homelessness. If so, I wonder if the (hypothesized) increase is sufficient to account for the perceived breakdown in discipline.

        2. Thanks, DJR. Having relatives living in Brooklyn, you are talking the way they talk. I think people on the ground where it’s happening (usually) apply common sense and (often) reach the same conclusions as a study, but a lot faster. Of course the exception, the counter-intuitive study conclusion, proves the rule and I accept that we should try to remain open to that, LG, while at the same time avoiding the logical flaw so often appearing in these studies, “concurrence equals causality.” DeBlasio in my opinion is a masterful practitioner of such flawed (i.e. “snowflake”) politically-motivated logic, one of New York’s many gifts to America. Not that there aren’t just as many gifts from New York on the right as the left, come to think of it.

    2. Re homeless, stressed students, that is a huge problem wherever the opioid epidemic has arrived. Which includes rural Virginia. What can some of these abandoned or abused kids do but leave “home”? What are our schools doing to deal with this? We don’t have to walk away from classroom discipline in order to give these stressed kids some understanding and support, do we? Because the other kids need support too, and a little education!

  7. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    First off – I read no further than “snowflake” in DJs responses.. sorry
    not credible from the get go. Drop the silly stuff and I’ll read it.

    I do not buy “perception” surveys.. If you guys actually READ the study you’ll see the author complaining about the wording and changes to wording in the questions.

    Also keep in mind these are NOT the SAME teachers and same students.. either!

    Finally -show me some hard data.

    I want to see more teachers leaving..

    I want to see changes in academic scores.

    and I want to see other schools and not have to put up with their guys obvious bias between the two Mayors.

    This is a bogus study by someone who is obviously biased …

    the study is basically intended to support the ideology leanings of people who will “cite” it as “proof” of their “beliefs”.

    anyone who starts off disagreeing with de Blasio politically is already showing his cards…

    Why not get a few more cities and get away entirely from the de Blasio versus Bloomberg foolishness?

    This “study” is the way the Right deals with issues these days. Over and over and over they do these bogus studies then use them to “prove” their beliefs.

    when you show me real metrics.. I’ll put some credence in it.

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