by Kerry Dougherty

Sharpen your corkscrews, everyone. Snow’s a-coming.

Or so they say. Long-time residents of Virginia’s “rain-belt” — everything this side of Williamsburg — have learned to be skeptical of wintry forecasts.

I planned to write today about Ralph Northam’s latest press conference. But snow is more fun. And, frankly, weather is easier to understand than the latest vaccine news that emanated from Richmond yesterday.

Northam did casually mention that all Virginians should be vaccinated against COVID-19 by the end of summer.

Dammit. He’s moving the goalposts again. At his presser a few weeks ago Northam said “before summer.” I heard him. I wrote it down. He actually gave some of us a glimmer of hope for a speedy rollout of the vaccine and a summer filled with things like baseball. And bars.

Northam also extended his COVID emergency orders until the end of February. It’s time we called this what it is: an 10-month abuse of power with no legislative oversight. Many of us are beginning to wonder if Northam will ever let us stay out past midnight. Or if schools will ever reopen.

Speaking of schools. With this rare, wonderful forecast of snow, children ought to be hyperventilating and praying for a snow day.

The usual frisson of excitement is missing this year. After all, for most public school kids every day’s been a snow day since schools closed last March.

And even if we get a few inches, sea-level City Hall spoilsports outlawed sledding on the city’s only decent hill years ago.

I’m referring, of course, to the majestic Mt. Trashmore, jutting 65 feet into the sky: Southeastern Virginia’s Everest.

That boneheaded ban was driven by a fear of lawsuits after the mother of an injured sledder successfully sued the Beach.

Yep, a city that runs skateboard parks and sees runners collapse in road races  won’t let local kids slide down a snowy hill. Sheesh.

This time it seems only adults and private school kids are in the grips of snowstorm hysteria. I spied several shopkeepers sprinkling kitty litter on their sidewalks in the afternoon.

Just in case.

Fact is, Southerners are generally unprepared for snow. Heck, many of us don’t have hats, let alone snow shovels.

Last time it snowed, I raked my porch while my neighbors swept theirs with an old broom. I saw one guy trying to clear snow off his car with a sheet of cardboard. I caught another scraping his windshield with a Coke can.

Plus, the cities of Tidewater never invested in snow plows, so side streets go unplowed, which means a few inches of snow can trap us in our frozen neighborhoods for days.

That’s actually good, because no one who’s lived in the South for a decade or more should be allowed to drive on snowy roads. Remember the Great Blizzard of 2006 when an inch of snow fell across Virginia and the state police recorded 160 crashes?

The whole country was laughing at us. We even made the Drudge Report: “Virginia Drivers Cause Over 100 Accidents In Less Than One Inch Of Snow.”

I drove through two snowstorms last month during my whirlwind weekend trip to Utah.

It was terrifying. And I am not doing THAT again.

If there is any accumulation on the roads Thursday morning Mike Imprevento has promised to drive to my house in his monster truck so we can be behind our mics in time for the 9 a.m. “Kerry and Mike Show” on AM-790 WNIS.

But it won’t snow. Or will it?

6:30 am update: Snow!


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69 responses to “Snow Job”

  1. Vaccinating people when you have a better chance under 50 with the disease, and not a lot after, and those who are compromised should not have to decide between death and their careers built in Va.

  2. Vaccinating people when you have a better chance under 50 with the disease, and not a lot after, and those who are compromised should not have to decide between death and their careers built in Va.

  3. “Remember the Great Blizzard of 2006…”

    I remember the blizzard of 1980 when 32″ of snow fell on Virginia Beach over the course of two days. The owned, I think, two snow plows at the time. I had great fun driving doctors and nurses to hospitals, and rescuing police cars from ditches, in my newly restored 1957 Jeep.

    1. sherlockj Avatar

      My wife and I picked that week for a vacation to Mexico. My parents stayed with our kids in our Virginia Beach house. For some reason, they never volunteered to do that again.

      1. I can’t imagine why.

    2. Nancy_Naive Avatar
      Nancy_Naive

      President’s Day… Hampton Roads surpassed Buffalo NY that year. There was another year, 68 or 69, that was almost as bad.

      1. I was only about 5 years old then. My Tonka Jeep did not have quite enough power to pull a police car out of a ditch.

        🙂

        1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
          Nancy_Naive

          There was (still is?) a Chevy dealer on Mercury Blvd in Hampton. They hired someone to clear their lot. At sunrise, there was a 10-foot high mountain of snow piled in the middle of the intersection.

          1. idiocracy Avatar

            Sounds like the work of someone who would paint right over a dead animal in the middle of the road.

            That actually happened in Virginia a few years ago.

  4. “Remember the Great Blizzard of 2006…”

    I remember the blizzard of 1980 when 32″ of snow fell on Virginia Beach over the course of two days. The owned, I think, two snow plows at the time. I had great fun driving doctors and nurses to hospitals, and rescuing police cars from ditches, in my newly restored 1957 Jeep.

    1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
      Nancy_Naive

      President’s Day… Hampton Roads surpassed Buffalo NY that year. There was another year, 68 or 69, that was almost as bad.

  5. “And even if we get a few inches, sea-level City Hall spoilsports outlawed sledding on the city’s only decent hill years ago.”

    More memories of growing up in Virginia Beach. I remember when/why sledding was banned at Mt. Trashmore, but I do not remember the exact year.

    It was during my teenage years and before I went to college, so 1979-1981 most likely. A young child was killed sledding at Mt. Trashmore. He slid under one of the wooden three-rail fences that separated the parking lots from the park. The boy hit his head on the lower rail of the fence and died from head injuries. Shortly after that incident, sledding was banned at Mt. Trashmore.

  6. “And even if we get a few inches, sea-level City Hall spoilsports outlawed sledding on the city’s only decent hill years ago.”

    More memories of growing up in Virginia Beach. I remember when/why sledding was banned at Mt. Trashmore, but I do not remember the exact year.

    It was during my teenage years and before I went to college, so 1979-1981 most likely. A young child was killed sledding at Mt. Trashmore. He slid under one of the wooden three-rail fences that separated the parking lots from the park. The boy hit his head on the lower rail of the fence and died from head injuries. Shortly after that incident, sledding was banned at Mt. Trashmore.

  7. sherlockj Avatar

    From LuAnne Rife in the Roanoke paper:
    “Gov. Ralph Northam said Wednesday he feels the frustration of Virginians who cannot get a clear answer on how to obtain the COVID-19 vaccine.”

    “Northam said he told the Virginia Department of Health to launch a central website and phone center for people to register, but that it is not yet ready.”

    “not yet ready”. I used to think Dr. Northam was just persistently and unaccountably ignorant of the serial failures of his Department of Health to deal with anything, much less the pandemic.

    Now I think he has lost his mind.

    1. “Northam said he told the Virginia Department of Health to launch a central website and phone center for people to register, but that it is not yet ready.”

      At least it’s not HIS fault…

  8. sherlockj Avatar

    From LuAnne Rife in the Roanoke paper:
    “Gov. Ralph Northam said Wednesday he feels the frustration of Virginians who cannot get a clear answer on how to obtain the COVID-19 vaccine.”

    “Northam said he told the Virginia Department of Health to launch a central website and phone center for people to register, but that it is not yet ready.”

    “not yet ready”. I used to think Dr. Northam was just persistently and unaccountably ignorant of the serial failures of his Department of Health to deal with anything, much less the pandemic.

    Now I think he has lost his mind.

  9. Nancy_Naive Avatar
    Nancy_Naive

    Again, if you have ever had a hospital stay, ER visit, outpatient surgery, etc., at Sentara, you may be able to access “MyChart” and make an appointment.

    My sister-in-law, 66, scheduled an appointment for yesterday afternoon in morning and she’s done with #1.

  10. Nancy_Naive Avatar
    Nancy_Naive

    Again, if you have ever had a hospital stay, ER visit, outpatient surgery, etc., at Sentara, you may be able to access “MyChart” and make an appointment.

    My sister-in-law, 66, scheduled an appointment for yesterday afternoon in morning and she’s done with #1.

  11. We got a light dusting this morning in Central Virginia just west of Richmond. The roads were fine.

  12. We got a light dusting this morning in Central Virginia just west of Richmond. The roads were fine.

  13. Reed Fawell 3rd Avatar
    Reed Fawell 3rd

    Has Doc Northam ever got anything right?

    Apparently not. Best I can tell, Doc Northam is surely Lennie Of Mice and Men, in blackface disguise originally, until he got to pretending he is the governor of Virginia.

    1. And Virginia is his bunny rabbit…

  14. Reed Fawell 3rd Avatar
    Reed Fawell 3rd

    Has Doc Northam ever got anything right?

    Apparently not. Best I can tell, Doc Northam is surely Lennie Of Mice and Men, in blackface disguise originally, until he got to pretending he is the governor of Virginia.

    1. And Virginia is his bunny rabbit…

  15. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    Wayne.
    You have raised a topic close to my heart. Or at least it used to be.
    I was married for 31 years to a Russian woman whose family comes from Perm. We met in Moscow in the 1980s. We have two children who now live in the Richmond area. She now lives in Asia.
    Perm was off limits to foreigners for decades because of its importance to the military and political penal system. I managed to get there in 1991 just after it reopened. I got to see my in-laws and I was there to cover new joint venture to make jet aircraft engines between Pratt & Whitney and Perm Motors, one of the country’s oldest engine makers.
    I know you know this, but Perm is on a wide, inland river and looks like a fairly large city in the U.S. Midwest. The people are like that too, friendly and outgoing.
    I miss my mother and brother-in-law who still live there. My former mother in law used to work at a then secret factory alongside the Kama River. I have heard that part of it is underground. It is supposed to make consumer goods and also Surface to Air Missiles and artillery tubes. Perm also houses the basic school for military personnel assigned to tactical and strategic missile units. It is home to the school for inland river piloting which is important in that country. And, there’s good old Perm 35, the political GULAG that housed dissident Anatoly Scharanzsky.
    I stayed in a hotel during my visit. That night, I was dead tired and needed to get up early for work. Then the phone rang. Again and again. It was the prostitutes. They wanted my business. I said I was too tired for business. “We will not give sleep,” one said. I then barricaded my room and disassembled the phone and managed a few hours of rest. The next morning there was a knock on the door. A swarthy, muscular man stood there and was friendly and smiling. He introduced himself and gently asked if I had taken my hotel phone apart. I said yes. He kindly asked me to put it back together because without it working, the entire phone circuit to our wing of the hotel was down. He was a trader and did most of his business at night. I immediately did as he asked.
    Later, I explored the hotel. I found something really cool in the basement. It was a Soviet era tinplate poster of what to do in case of an American nuclear attack. It showed a USAF B-58 Hustler from the 1950s. It went on to show images of what an air drop on Perm would look like in concentric circles and what the damage would be. It also had very detailed and correct descriptions of what alpha, beta and gamma rays can do. I really wanted to steal this sign but decided that would get me in a lot of trouble.
    I may have an idea as to your construction question. I am not an engineer but during the Communist era with central planning, it was very common for bosses to do goods trade offs to meet deficit quotas when were set artificially anyway by GOSPLAN. So roads were made extra big so truck factories could make bigger trucks. That way everybody got their quotas and was happy. The environment? What’s that?
    Amazing to hear from an American who has been to Perm. Thanks!

    1. Thank you for the information on Perm. It is fascinating. You are right about it resembling a mid-west U.S. city. Our hosts told us about the ban on westerners during the cold war. They said foreigners would be summarily executed if caught anywhere in the region. In addition to the arms manufacturing plants they apparently also had ICBM silos in that region. We also found the people there to be warm, friendly and welcoming. Any time someone found out we were American they wanted to try out their English on us. It was a bit of a depressed area when we were there, though. Both the power and the water in our hosts’ apartment were shut off for several hours each day. The interruptions were at least done on a schedule, so we could plan around them.

      We visited the city/region twice. as part of the process of adopting a little boy from a children’s home in the region. Our second visit was in December and it snowed pretty much every day we were there. Our son was in the small city (town, maybe) of Kudymkar (sp?) which if I remember correctly is about 150-200 km north of Perm. We made the drive between the two cities every day we were there, so I got to know that road pretty well. The temperature never got too much above zero F on that visit. Our driver had two plug-in heating elements in his car, one in the engine block and another in the transmission.

      The trips we made there provided some of the highlights of our lives. Our son is 19 years old now and is a freshman in college.

  16. idiocracy Avatar

    Virginians have trouble driving in perfectly clear weather. See I81 for confirmation.

  17. idiocracy Avatar

    Virginians have trouble driving in perfectly clear weather. See I81 for confirmation.

  18. “…no one who’s lived in the South for a decade or more should be allowed to drive on snowy roads.”

    Speak for yourself.

    1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
      Nancy_Naive

      To paraphase Sterling Moss, “All you need to drive on a snowy day in the South is a lack of imagination. If you could imagine a Ram dualie doing 60 sliding into your little rebult Jeep, you’d just stay home.”

      Roads are fine in SE too. Wet, which in Virginia is always scary, but not icy, which in Virginia is terrifying.

      The first time I watched a cop, with lights flashing and siren blaring, spin a 720 through an intersection of two 4-lane divided roads, I made the decision that nothing — nothing — is worth driving on snow or ice. Not while there are soaps on the TV.

      1. I was responding to her statement that I should not be ALLOWED to drive in the snow. I left the dangers associated with “point and shoot” drivers on snowy roads unaddressed.

        People who drive by collecting constant feedback through the steering wheel, chassis, suspension, engine and drivetrain; and who use the information collected to make continuous, smooth adjustments to throttle, steering wheel, brakes and shifter, can pretty much drive on any surface except a road covered in moving water/mud or black ice…

        …and some people of Scandinavian extraction can even drive on black ice. 😉

        https://www.redbull.com/za-en/stig-blomqvist-snow-driving-practical-guide

        1. idiocracy Avatar

          On the other hand, the folks who think the brake pedal is like like a “cancel” button ought to take the bus.

          1. I include them under the umbrella of “point and shoot” drivers.

        2. Nancy_Naive Avatar
          Nancy_Naive

          The Mercedes hood orniment isn’t a logo. It’s a gunsight.

          1. idiocracy Avatar

            The hood ornament gives them something to stare at while they’re driving.

  19. “…no one who’s lived in the South for a decade or more should be allowed to drive on snowy roads.”

    Speak for yourself.

  20. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    It was really, really cool. Btw are these the new ads? Ladies in their 40s? Have you gotten into ED helpers like Newsmax? If you have, that’s a real letdown.

  21. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    Try living and working in Moscow for six years. Or, try a reporting trip in January to Norilsk above the Arctic Circle in Siberia.High temp? Minus 40 F . Then imagine getting weathered in for a week and running out of money. Credit cards not accepted. Oh, such poor Virginia whoosies.

    1. Welcome back. I think.

    2. When we visited the Perm Region, I did not drive myself, but when my wife and I were there during early November 2002 it had already gotten very cold – daytime highs well below freezing

      One morning we were being driven north out of the city of Perm on a nice two-lane highway. I was sight-seeing and enjoying myself, but something about the way the road was constructed was bothering by “civil engineering sense”. It took me a while to figure it out, but as we moved along and I saw more of the road, I realized that the entire road was built on several feet of fill material. The road shoulders and adjacent land sloped gently away from the road for a distance of 150-250 feet on both sides of the road. This was the case even in areas where they had cut through hills/mountains. In those areas they had over-blasted the rock (or over-excavated the soil) for a width of three or four times what was actually needed to build the road and then “built back” the roadbed until the pavement surface was a few vertical feet higher than the surrounding farmland. That is a very expensive and time-consuming way to build a road.

      I rode along in the car, trying to think of a logical reason they would do so much extra work to build this road. Then it came to me. I asked our driver/interpreter: “How much snow do you get in this area each winter?”. His answer: Five or six METERS. Well okay, then.

      They had constructed the road (and a lot of their most important rural roads) so they would have a place to put an entire winter’s worth of snowplowing without having to load it into trucks and haul it away. A very smart solution, but given the extra construction expense involved, it would most likely be worth doing only in areas that get VERY large amounts of snow.

      I later found out that some roads in places like Minnesota and the Dakotas are constructed similarly, but I have never been up there to see those, so Russia was my first exposure to this phenomenon.

  22. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    Try living and working in Moscow for six years. Or, try a reporting trip in January to Norilsk above the Arctic Circle in Siberia.High temp? Minus 40 F . Then imagine getting weathered in for a week and running out of money. Credit cards not accepted. Oh, such poor Virginia whoosies.

    1. When we visited the Perm Region, I did not drive myself, but when my wife and I were there during early November 2002 it had already gotten very cold – daytime highs well below freezing

      One morning we were being driven north out of the city of Perm on a nice two-lane highway. I was sight-seeing and enjoying myself, but something about the way the road was constructed was bothering by “civil engineering sense”. It took me a while to figure it out, but as we moved along and I saw more of the road, I realized that the entire road was built on several feet of fill material. The road shoulders and adjacent land sloped gently away from the road for a distance of 150-250 feet on both sides of the road. This was the case even in areas where they had cut through hills/mountains. In those areas they had over-blasted the rock (or over-excavated the soil) for a width of three or four times what was actually needed to build the road and then “built back” the roadbed until the pavement surface was a few vertical feet higher than the surrounding farmland. That is a very expensive and time-consuming way to build a road.

      I rode along in the car, trying to think of a logical reason they would do so much extra work to build this road. Then it came to me. I asked our driver/interpreter: “How much snow do you get in this area each winter?”. His answer: Five or six METERS. Well okay, then.

      They had constructed the road (and a lot of their most important rural roads) so they would have a place to put an entire winter’s worth of snowplowing without having to load it into trucks and haul it away. A very smart solution, but given the extra construction expense involved, it would most likely be worth doing only in areas that get VERY large amounts of snow.

      I later found out that some roads in places like Minnesota and the Dakotas are constructed similarly, but I have never been up there to see those, so Russia was my first exposure to this phenomenon.

  23. James Wyatt Whitehead V Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead V

    Blue Mountain in Warren County had 20 inches in early December. 4 wheel drive was not enough. I had to chain up to make my deliveries. Hoping the snow stays in NC.

    1. I once had a set of studded Blizzak snow tires for a first-gen Saab 900 Turbo I owned. It was amazing what that car would do on a snow-packed road.

    2. Nancy_Naive Avatar
      Nancy_Naive

      Daughter has a Suzuki SX4. Massanutten was closed several years back to all but 4WD. She showed the guy at the shack that it locked into 4WD and up she went. I think it’s built on the Samurai chassis and drive train.

      1. Yes. and the Suzuki Samuri is a very capable 4wd vehicle.

  24. James Wyatt Whitehead V Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead V

    Blue Mountain in Warren County had 20 inches in early December. 4 wheel drive was not enough. I had to chain up to make my deliveries. Hoping the snow stays in NC.

    1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
      Nancy_Naive

      Daughter has a Suzuki SX4. Massanutten was closed several years back to all but 4WD. She showed the guy at the shack that it locked into 4WD and up she went. I think it’s built on the Samurai chassis and drive train.

  25. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    Wayne.
    You have raised a topic close to my heart. Or at least it used to be.
    I was married for 31 years to a Russian woman whose family comes from Perm. We met in Moscow in the 1980s. We have two children who now live in the Richmond area. She now lives in Asia.
    Perm was off limits to foreigners for decades because of its importance to the military and political penal system. I managed to get there in 1991 just after it reopened. I got to see my in-laws and I was there to cover new joint venture to make jet aircraft engines between Pratt & Whitney and Perm Motors, one of the country’s oldest engine makers.
    I know you know this, but Perm is on a wide, inland river and looks like a fairly large city in the U.S. Midwest. The people are like that too, friendly and outgoing.
    I miss my mother and brother-in-law who still live there. My former mother in law used to work at a then secret factory alongside the Kama River. I have heard that part of it is underground. It is supposed to make consumer goods and also Surface to Air Missiles and artillery tubes. Perm also houses the basic school for military personnel assigned to tactical and strategic missile units. It is home to the school for inland river piloting which is important in that country. And, there’s good old Perm 35, the political GULAG that housed dissident Anatoly Scharanzsky.
    I stayed in a hotel during my visit. That night, I was dead tired and needed to get up early for work. Then the phone rang. Again and again. It was the prostitutes. They wanted my business. I said I was too tired for business. “We will not give sleep,” one said. I then barricaded my room and disassembled the phone and managed a few hours of rest. The next morning there was a knock on the door. A swarthy, muscular man stood there and was friendly and smiling. He introduced himself and gently asked if I had taken my hotel phone apart. I said yes. He kindly asked me to put it back together because without it working, the entire phone circuit to our wing of the hotel was down. He was a trader and did most of his business at night. I immediately did as he asked.
    Later, I explored the hotel. I found something really cool in the basement. It was a Soviet era tinplate poster of what to do in case of an American nuclear attack. It showed a USAF B-58 Hustler from the 1950s. It went on to show images of what an air drop on Perm would look like in concentric circles and what the damage would be. It also had very detailed and correct descriptions of what alpha, beta and gamma rays can do. I really wanted to steal this sign but decided that would get me in a lot of trouble.
    I may have an idea as to your construction question. I am not an engineer but during the Communist era with central planning, it was very common for bosses to do goods trade offs to meet deficit quotas when were set artificially anyway by GOSPLAN. So roads were made extra big so truck factories could make bigger trucks. That way everybody got their quotas and was happy. The environment? What’s that?
    Amazing to hear from an American who has been to Perm. Thanks!

    1. Good thing you didn’t steal the sign — you might have ended up like Otto Warmbier!

    2. Thank you for the information on Perm. It is fascinating. You are right about it resembling a mid-west U.S. city. Our hosts told us about the ban on westerners during the cold war. They said foreigners would be summarily executed if caught anywhere in the region. In addition to the arms manufacturing plants they apparently also had ICBM silos in that region. We also found the people there to be warm, friendly and welcoming. Any time someone found out we were American they wanted to try out their English on us. It was a bit of a depressed area when we were there, though. Both the power and the water in our hosts’ apartment were shut off for several hours each day. The interruptions were at least done on a schedule, so we could plan around them.

      We visited the city/region twice. as part of the process of adopting a little boy from a children’s home in the region. Our second visit was in December and it snowed pretty much every day we were there. Our son was in the small city (town, maybe) of Kudymkar (sp?) which if I remember correctly is about 150-200 km north of Perm. We made the drive between the two cities every day we were there, so I got to know that road pretty well. The temperature never got too much above zero F on that visit. Our driver had two plug-in heating elements in his car, one in the engine block and another in the transmission.

      The trips we made there provided some of the highlights of our lives. Our son is 19 years old now and is a freshman in college.

  26. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    It was really, really cool

  27. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    It was really, really cool

  28. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    It was really, really cool. Btw are these the new ads? Ladies in their 40s? Have you gotten into ED helpers like Newsmax? If you have, that’s a real letdown.

    1. Google uses AI to place the ads. They should be tailored to your unique profile. If you’re getting ads with ladies in their 40s in them, well…. that’s on you, not Bacon’s Rebellion!

      1. djrippert Avatar

        i’m looking at an ad right now from Mensa. It says, “Explore something new. Connect with other brilliant minds and find your niche. Take a Mensa test.”

        I’m shorting Google.

        1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
          Nancy_Naive

          That was my immediate thought. Self-deprecating humor– 10 Points.

          Artificial Intelligence is to Intelligence as Artificial Insemination is to Insemination.

        2. Uh, oh, I’m looking at ad from the American Association of Mental Retardation!

          1. Twice this week I’ve seen an ad from a covid 19 vaccination injury lawyer.

      2. Nancy_Naive Avatar
        Nancy_Naive

        It’s easy to prove it’s not content based advertisement, they would all be for buying gold and My Pillow…

  29. Paul Sweet Avatar
    Paul Sweet

    If the 2006 blizzard was the one I’m thinking of, the snow was an extremely fine powder with a coefficient of friction of 0, or maybe even -1. I’m a damnyankee and it was slicker than any snow I remember.

    1. You make an excellent point. Many northerners who make fun of the trouble residents of the mid-Atlantic region have driving in snowy weather do not realize that our snowy weather is not the same as their snowy weather.

      In the colder regions of the country, wintertime precipitation tends to be as follows: it gets cold, it snows, it stays cold, it [eventually] stops snowing.

      In Virginia, wintertime precipitation is often much more diverse and inclusive: it gets cold, it snows, it warms to slightly above freezing, the snow begins to melt as sleet/rain continues to fall, the temperature drops back below freezing, the precipitation goes back to being snow, the snow begins accumulating on top of the the re-frozen slush/snow from the previous melting, it warms to above freezing again, and the cycle repeats until all precipitation [eventually] stops. This makes for much more unpredictable and much more treacherous driving conditions than does a simple snowfall.

      It is a lot easier to drive on packed snow than on a sheet of ice – or even on patchy ice.

      1. Excellent observation! I hadn’t thought of it this way before. Virginians have long mocked themselves for how fearful they are of snow compared to northerners. But that fear is rational!

        You’ve made my day.

  30. Paul Sweet Avatar
    Paul Sweet

    If the 2006 blizzard was the one I’m thinking of, the snow was an extremely fine powder with a coefficient of friction of 0, or maybe even -1. I’m a damnyankee and it was slicker than any snow I remember.

    1. You make an excellent point. Many northerners who make fun of the trouble residents of the mid-Atlantic region have driving in snowy weather do not realize that our snowy weather is not the same as their snowy weather.

      In the colder regions of the country, wintertime precipitation tends to be as follows: it gets cold, it snows, it stays cold, it [eventually] stops snowing.

      In Virginia, wintertime precipitation is often much more diverse and inclusive: it gets cold, it snows, it warms to slightly above freezing, the snow begins to melt as sleet/rain continues to fall, the temperature drops back below freezing, the precipitation goes back to being snow, the snow begins accumulating on top of the the re-frozen slush/snow from the previous melting, it warms to above freezing again, and the cycle repeats until all precipitation [eventually] stops. This makes for much more unpredictable and much more treacherous driving conditions than does a simple snowfall.

      It is a lot easier to drive on packed snow than on a sheet of ice – or even on patchy ice.

  31. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    Bacon. I don’t use prostitutes like our former president.

    1. idiocracy Avatar

      I didn’t know that Monica was charging for the services she rendered to Bill…

      1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
        Nancy_Naive

        Or didn’t.

  32. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    Bacon. I don’t use prostitutes like our former president.

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