Seven Years for Shooting a Guy Eight Times. Sounds Like a Pretty Good Deal.

by Dick Hall-Sizemore

For all those folks on this blog who are concerned about “woke” prosecutors, leniency toward murderers, and enforcement of gun laws, here is a case to consider.

A 17-year-old Black kid goes to a house to purchase four ounces of marijuana for $400. While meeting with the 19-year-old seller, the kid pulls up his shirt to reveal a handgun tucked in his waistband. He then grabs the bag of pot and runs. At the bottom of the stairs, according to the seller, the kid turns and looks up at the seller standing at the top of the stairs. The seller then shoots the kid at least eight times with a Glock 23 handgun as he ran out the front door, hitting him in the head, neck, back, pelvis and shoulder. The kid dies at the scene.

Upon being questioned by police, the killer initially lies and claims that he was out of town on the day of the shooting. After his mother confirms that he was in town at the time, he then admits taking part in the incident, claiming self-defense.

After spending about a year in jail awaiting trial, the killer is released on $50,000 bond. The incident occurred in late 2018. Three years after being released on bond, the killer has pleaded guilty in a plea deal negotiated with the prosecutors. As part of the deal, the killer agrees to plead guilty to voluntary manslaughter, possessing marijuana with the intent to distribute it, and conspiracy. In return for the plea, the Commonwealth’s attorney’s office agrees to drop second-degree murder and illegal use of handgun charges. (The handgun charge would have carried a mandatory minimum sentence of three years to be served in addition to any other charges for which he would have been convicted.) In addition, the Commonwealth’s attorney agrees to seek no more than a seven-year sentence.

After pleading guilty, the drug dealer/killer is allowed to remain free on bond until his sentencing hearing in October. The victim’s family protests that the deal was too lenient. “The system is a joke. It’s a flat out joke,” says an uncle of the victim.

Let’s review: drug deal gone bad; both buyer and seller armed with handguns; seller pumps eight rounds into buyer after buyer steals drugs; accused killer allowed to be free for two years before trial; charge carrying mandatory minimum sentence dropped; murder charge reduced to manslaughter; prosecutor settles for a seven-year sentence for a man killing another over an act, which if tried under the larceny provision, would be a misdemeanor; after pleading guilty, killer allowed to remain free until sentencing hearing. This case must have happened in one of those inner cities with a woke prosecutor, such as Richmond, Norfolk, or perhaps Northern Virginia, maybe Arlington.

If that was your conclusion, you would be wrong. It happened in Virginia Beach. The drug dealer/killer was white. He lived in a five-bedroom, 4,400 square foot home in an upscale area of Virginia Beach. An account of the case is in Tuesday’s Virginian Pilot.

Perhaps, rather than trying to garner national publicity going after “liberal” prosecutors who are Democrats, Attorney Jason Miyares should talk to his former colleagues in the Virginia Beach Commonwealth’s attorney’s office.

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There are some questions about this case that spring to mind. What if the victim had been white and the shooter Black? What if the incident had taken place in a housing project rather than in an upscale neighborhood? Would the prosecutor have been as willing to settle on such generous terms? One can only speculate.

A spokeswoman for the Virginia Beach prosecutor explained that prosecutors “amended the charges to fit the available evidence.” That could well be a legitimate position. After all, in his statement given after the plea deal was struck, the killer told police that he had tossed his gun off the Pungo Ferry Bridge. So, there was no weapon to place in evidence or to test the slugs against. There were no eyewitnesses. The victim’s brother was on the scene, but he was waiting in the car. The victim did have a gun on him; therefore, perhaps the killer’s defense attorney could have made a plausible case of self-defense before a jury.

The important point is that all prosecutors enter into plea agreements. In fact, it is estimated that 95% of criminal cases are resolved through plea bargaining. Before jumping all over a prosecutor, progressive or conservative, for entering into plea deals, it is best to examine all the facts at hand for each case, because all cases are different.


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37 responses to “Seven Years for Shooting a Guy Eight Times. Sounds Like a Pretty Good Deal.”

  1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
    James C. Sherlock

    Virginia Beach’s Commonwealth’s Attorney is a tough, fair, by the book guy. If his office takes that plea, you can take it to the bank that is all they can prove.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Practically dynastic. Imagine my surprise that the CA’s surname is the same as the CA’s surname when I was 16. The more things change the more the stay the same. VB was always 3 last names.

      1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
        James C. Sherlock

        I this case I know him. Served as foreman of one of his grand juries. Saw him in action over an extended period of time. I have nothing but respect for him. We did not indict for anything more than what the evidence we heard had a good chance of proving. That is the way he wanted it. Honorable man.

        1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
          Dick Hall-Sizemore

          Things must be done differently in Virginia Beach now than they were when you served on a grand jury. According to the Virginia Court System database, a grand jury returned a true bill on Jacob Meadows for second degree murder, use of a firearm in the commission of a felony, and conspiracy. All those charges were nolle prossed on 7/11/2022. It seems that the Commonwealth’s attorney’s office got indictments for offenses that didn’t “fit the available evidence.”

          1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
            James C. Sherlock

            I was on a special grand jury. Can’t discuss it. It was a good while ago. But my observations hold. We filed indictments we thought provable from the facts we uncovered. He plea bargained them down to what he thought was fair and served the public interest. The defendant was black.

          2. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
            Dick Hall-Sizemore

            So, he “bargained them down to what he thought was fair and served the public interest.” How is that different from the “permissive prosecution philosophy” you recently condemned C0lette McEachin for?

          3. James C. Sherlock Avatar
            James C. Sherlock

            One focuses on the victim and the other focuses on the perpetrator.

        2. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          I knew Ken by way of the VB sheriff and fishing.

          Speaking of VB surnames, if you want to read a great court decision, Judge Kellam wrote the first admiralty decision on the SS Central America. The boy channeled Herman Melville. He went all wide eyed romantic.

        3. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          do you “know” the prosecutors that have been vilified as “woke”?

          If you knew them also, would your view change?

  2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    What a bunch of dumb @#4#@s! All of that over 4 onces? Get a life! One mason jar. That was worth all of this trouble?
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7821e830cc5f5b18e20ca2d63dd045bcaf4d6e986b507ae6abec19a6704eb123.jpg

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Probably watched the cops kill daddy. Bet I can find a video of a white kid doing the same to a black kid.

        Found one… https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EAmrSNDrWSg

    1. White privilege? Really? If I were on a jury, I’d have voted to throw the book at the shooter.

      But, then, you would have come back and said that’s white privilege, too, because the victim was white.

      There is no fact, or set of facts, or standards of proof that exist that can contradict your proposition. Your white privilege schtick is an unfalsifiable hypothesis, hence, meaningless. It’s pure snark that sheds no light on anything.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        The perception of white privilege is all that’s necessary to do the damage, if not to nonwhite, then self-inflicted…
        https://www.bet.com/article/2xyrvj/this-video-of-a-kid-believing-his-whiteness-will-get-him

  3. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    methinks if the exact same circumstances occurred in Loudoun or Arlington, the “woke warriors” in BR would be all over it!

    1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      Yep. Exactly Dick’s point…

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        If the woke warriors in BR had even a Scintilla of character and honor, they’d have clear and convincing research data to back up their gaslighting and mythological fairy tales…

        1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          Of course the “woke” prosecutors won’t have the benefit of the Sherlock character reference (see above) so clearly it’s different then…

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            well, judged and convicted of “woke” prosecutorial conduct… call in the AG to fix…..

  4. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    Nice report, Dick. Whether we agree with the resolution or not, the facts and perspective are helpful reminders for all to be cautious about media crime reports. Kudos.

  5. Matt Adams Avatar
    Matt Adams

    I agree the gun charge should’ve stood, but you’re conflating items. If you overcharge you run the risk of someone going free when they should be behind bars, you only charge for what you can prove.

  6. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    1) The demographic/sociological factors about the felon you cite could also influence a jury, making an acquittal a real possibility. Just takes one juror. Especially with the sob story about defending himself he was likely to use given:
    2) No witnesses, no question the dead guy was also armed, and no proof it wasn’t self defense.
    Not arguing it doesn’t stink. But seven years is no walk in the park.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      And, the autopsy showed that the victim was FACING the shooter. Combined with the fact he was known to be armed and all manner of defense creeps in.

      Risks on both sides. Jury could have acquitted, or because drugs were involved could have gone all vigilante on him.

      BTW, they’re both felons.

    2. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      And, the autopsy showed that the victim was FACING the shooter. Combined with the fact he was known to be armed and all manner of defense creeps in.

      Risks on both sides. Jury could have acquitted, or because drugs were involved could have gone all vigilante on him.

      BTW, they’re both felons.

    3. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      “The demographic/sociological factors about the felon you cite could also influence a jury, making an acquittal a real possibility.”

      Aka… systemic racism… very good example…

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        well, clearly, when black folks do this, it’s culture but when white folks do it… there are “considerations” cuz that culture is different.

      2. WayneS Avatar

        Or, perhaps, systemic ‘classism’.

        1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          More like systemic “culturism”… same end point…

      3. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        Eric. Only fair that jury nullification work both ways. 😉

  7. Lefty665 Avatar
    Lefty665

    And they dropped the gun charge with mandatory jail time why? He admitted having the gun, the bullet holes in the dead guy were conclusive, and the gun was used in the commission of a (drug) crime which was also admitted.

  8. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    Six VA CAs have signed a statement noting they will use prosecutorial discretion not to prosecute women for alleged abortion law violations. A BR article of several weeks ago likened that to anarchy. Takes your pick.

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      That is political grandstanding. No legislation has been passed and it looks like legislation proposed by the Governor’s special task force will go after doctors and their licences, not women. https://richmond.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/newman-says-enforcement-of-abortion-law-could-target-licenses-of-doctors/article_48612a31-1029-5bdf-a7ef-2ce1a761b98d.html

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        agree…

      2. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        JAB asserted it was anarchy because the statement flouted the law. Most plea deals compromise the possible punishment in a criminal prosecution via prosecutorial discretion. Whether the statements about application of prosecutorial discretion to as-yet-to-be VA abortion laws are grandstanding, they share the same principle. My observation is directed toward the absurd criticism as anarchy, a persistent failing of conservative analysis by its woke warriors.

  9. walter smith Avatar
    walter smith

    I appreciate that DHS has argued for facts and circumstances before making a judgment…
    And now can we drop the “systemic racism,” “white privilege” cr@p and look at people like individuals?
    As to Commonwealth Attorneys, it matters what each one does. They have a lot of discretion. This is why you should want someone to be honest and fair and not a political hack. One day your family member is a victim and another day you have a family member perp. I have a real problem with “overcharging” – it effectively denies the right to jury trial. Take 3 years or I’ll prosecute you for 100, and usually the defendant does not have the money to get an Alan Dershowitz or a Magic Mike. Yet resources are limited in the sausage factory that is “justice” and plea deals can make a lot of sense.
    As the saying goes, when you are the victim, you want justice; when you are the defendant, you want mercy.

  10. William Chambliss Avatar
    William Chambliss

    Waiting for Kerry Dougherty’s take…..

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