School Discipline, Part III: Reframing Discipline in Virginia and Considerations for Making New Policy

by Matthew Hurt and Kathleen SmithReframing School Discipline

The Student Behavior and Administrative Response (SBAR) data collection was implemented in response to reframing school discipline from that of criminal, punishment, and exclusionary practices from 1991-2020 to that of restorative, intervention, and inclusionary practices in 2021 and beyond. The SBAR reports on behaviors that impede academic progress, behaviors related to school operations, relationship behaviors, behaviors that present a safety concern, behaviors that endanger self or others, and behaviors identified as persistently dangerous.

The SBAR records responses to discipline such as class removals, suspensions, expulsions with or without instructional services, and loss of privileges; behavioral interventions such as parents contacts, referrals, restorative practices; and instructional supports such as changes in placement, virtual programs, and support with and without face-to-face teacher contact.

The collection will always have inherent problems. Some data are clear: suspension or expulsion. Some data are not clear: support with or without face-to-face teacher contact. What if that contact was made by an administrator? Would removal for the last five minutes of class period be considered a removal? The reporting individual could inadvertently make the data very unreliable.

A cursory literature review demonstrated that “reframing discipline” occurred not only in Virginia, but throughout most educational institutions and juvenile justice organizations. Tight discipline policies in the late 1990s and early 2000s were replaced by less rigid or loose policies as early as 2010. After expulsions and suspensions catapulted, deterrent policies that used police, cameras, metal detectors, and locker searches were replaced by progressive policies that allow for a continuum of responses, prevention, intervention, supports, and consequences that foster positive behaviors.

Unintended Consequences of Both Tight and Loose Policies

Tight discipline policies do not allow for mitigation. The teacher uses minimal discretion for enforcement of rules. Breaking a rule, no matter the circumstance, is followed by a prescribed consequence. Loose discipline policies allow for more teacher and principal latitude over managing students. Loose discipline policies allow them to navigate the circumstance and use their professional judgment and expertise to decide on how much or how little  consequence should be received.

Our efforts to address disproportionality through looser policies that allow more educator discretion and at the same time provide better reporting and hold schools accountable may have inadvertently caused additional problems.

In addition, given discretionary flexibility, schools and systems may be ignoring some behaviors to ensure the numbers are lower. This is normal organizational behavior, but as educators, we need to make sure it doesn’t contribute to additional negative behaviors by a student.

This is not like ignoring a two-year old’s tantrums so that he/she gets no attention and stops the behavior. It is more like ignoring a disruptive student who talks on his cell phone in math class, and who then decides it is okay to talk on the cell phone in all classes.

Further, Colorado & Janzen (2021) summed up another organizational tendency that resulted in disproportionality. Educators often “locate risk factors in socio-economic and cultural variables, wherein risk is seen as lying not in the behavior, but in the social position of those exhibiting it.” When risk is viewed as not lying in the behavior, but in cultural or socio-economic variables, expectations are lowered. When expectations are lowered, educators set the bar lower, and the achievement gap is more likely to widen. The same is true for discipline.

Disproportionality emphasis in the past two years may have inadvertently lowered expectations for some students’ behavior. Teachers have come to believe that a student’s behavior — for example, a secondary student’s use of an expletive when arguing with another student — is related to his/her culture differences, and therefore should be managed differently, in most cases, ignoring the problem. In actuality, the student is running roughshod over other students. This behavior would not be expected in any workplace.

In 2022, several teachers in Dr. Hurt’s consortium of 49 school divisions were interviewed. These teachers received high SOL scores for all students regardless of income, disability, or race. As expected, these teachers had limited, if any, discipline referrals. These teachers overwhelmingly stated that they did not have different expectations for any group of students, academically or behaviorally. Learning, they expressed, is not dependent on one’s zip code. These teachers expect students to follow rules. These teachers do not ignore the problem, but rather ensure that misbehavior does not persist. With one student, it may be a simple move or shake of the head by the teacher to let him/her know a problem exists. With another student it may be a simple reminder of the rules. The management of the problem has more to do with what works well for the student in terms of getting him/her to desist in the behavior.

For example, Dr. Smith used simple phrases to remind students of the consequence and cue him/her that the behavior might be disrupting. For example, she would position herself close enough for the student to hear her quietly say “seven digits” which meant, “careful, there may be a telephone call to mom tonight.” For another student, she would set up a system in which a piece of masking tape was placed on his/her desk. The student knew in advance that when there were five “x’s” on the tape, a phone call would be made to mom.

Virginia’s Tiered System of Support

Virginia Tiered Systems of Supports (VTSS) is a data-informed, decision-making framework for establishing the social culture and academic and behavioral supports needed for the school to be an effective learning environment (for academics, behavior, and social-emotional well-being) for all students. Established in 2014, VTSS is an approach that allows divisions and schools to provide targeted, evidence-based interventions to meet the needs of their students. This is done through a clearly defined process that is implemented by all stakeholders within the school and/or division. This approach is process- driven and is included herein as the approach recommended by the Virginia Department of Education. The VDOE has engaged with Virginia Commonwealth University to provide ongoing training and technical assistance.

VTSS reports a track record of positive results for participating schools. Currently, 58 Virginia school divisions are participating in VTSS. Each year, schools in participating divisions submit fidelity of implementation and student outcome data to the Virginia Department of Education.

The following data are based on VTSS Cohort 1-2 schools that are implementing VTSS and have submitted outcome summary data for five consecutive years (n=38). Highlights of VTSS’s positive outcomes from the VCU website include the following:

• 38 percent decrease among general education students and a 15 percent decrease among special education students in the average number of office discipline referrals from End-of-Year (EOY) 2015 to EOY 2019;
• 39 percent decrease among general education students and a 21 percent decrease among special education students in the average number of out-of-school suspensions from EOY 2015 to EOY 2019; and,
• 39 percent decrease among general education students and a 19 percent decrease among special education students in the average number of in-school suspensions from EOY 2015 to EOY 2019.

VCU and VDOE also provided this statement regarding SOL data for VTSS schools in the 2019 Annual Report:

Seventy-four percent, 66 percent, and 68 percent of state-reported VTSS 1-2 schools remained consistent or improved English Reading SOL pass rates from 2013-14 to 2018-19 for all students, African American students, and students with disabilities, respectively. Eighty-seven percent, 87 percent, and 79 percent of state-reported VTSS 1-2 schools remained consistent or improved Mathematics SOL pass rates from 2013-14 to 2018-19 for all students, African American students, and students with disabilities, respectively.

It is very difficult to objectively evaluate the effectiveness of VTSS. A lot of factors influence discipline reporting and outcomes in schools. As discussed earlier, if student needs are met at a greater rate, the discipline outcomes in a school will improve. However, there have been instances in which schools have improved discipline statistics by ignoring behaviors that would have been addressed in the past. When this happens, the learning environment suffers, but things look better on paper.

The second problem is the student achievement metrics used to support academic outcomes in those schools and divisions that employed VTSS do not indicate any improvement in student outcomes relative to the other schools and divisions in the state. A variety of occurrences have taken place over the years significantly influencing SOL pass rates that have had nothing to do with teaching and learning. When a more rigorous SOL test is administered, scores drop across the state. When the Board of Education decides to lower cut scores, pass rates increase significantly.

Over the timeframes the VTSS reports academic outcomes (2014 through 2019), the SOL pass rates for the majority of school divisions and the entire state improved. Therefore, the claim that the implementation of VTSS had any positive bearing on student academic outcomes isn’t necessarily supported.

Commentary provided here is not intended to imply that the VTSS process is not worthy. However, there have been no objective data supplied that we can find which effectively evaluates the efficacy of this process.

Safe Schools vs Safe and Orderly Schools

The JLARC report brought attention to how school discipline and the conditions related to the pandemic have contributed to low teacher morale and teacher retention issues. Nearly three-fourths of teachers reported that morale is lower since the pandemic. About two-thirds reported they are less satisfied with the job. Of the teachers who indicated they are likely to leave by the end of the 2022–23 school year, a majority cited these effects of the pandemic as a contributing factor. Fifty-six percent of teachers cited a more challenging student population, including behavior issues as a very serious issue. Forty-seven percent cited a lack of respect from parents and the public.

A school can be structurally safe and have a school safety plan that meets all requirements. Dr. Smith served as a member of a special team put together by an-out-of-state Public State Superintendent for the purposes of finding out why a certain school appeared to be in chaos. The team found that the school met all safety requirements but bullying took place in every corner. Teachers and kids were in fear. Teachers and students reported they couldn’t give a description of the principal. They had never seen her. She had been there four months, the previous principal less than a year. Teachers turned a blind eye to bullying to survive. They were afraid to say or do something that would make the bullies worse or be reported to the central office for having poor classroom management. Only about 2 percent of the students were bullies, and the other 98 percent couldn’t escape the boundaries of the school. They were trapped. Day after day, students were victimized, and nothing was done to the perpetrators. (As requested by the Public State Superintendent, the team reported its findings to that office and there were consequential and severe actions.)

It is important to define a safe and orderly school and not just a safe school. What would be some of the measures and would these measures inadvertently create more problems for the same reasons that highlighting disproportionality may have caused some ignoring behaviors?

Further Discussion Needed

The current General Assembly, as always, considers several bills regarding discipline. Do discipline policies need to be tight with prescribed actions for administrators to take without any regard to the reality of the situation? Or do discipline policies need to allow administrators to consider the situation at the risk of ignoring behaviors that do not need to be ignored? Do we trust our administrators and processes to make fair and just decisions regarding discipline? What checks and balances are there in place to ensure proper justice is served? Are the data collected useful?

Dr. Smith has always been apprehensive of the words “improving or staying the course.” What does it really tell us? A quantified indicator is either present or not. Also, less is better. Too many indicators are confusing. What constitutes a safe and orderly school? Who should define a safe and orderly school? Should the definition be the same in every community? How should one show improvement? Is a one percent change over last year an indicator of improvement?

Suppose you had to vote on legislation that would require any 9-12 grade student who had more than three unexcused absences to attend a five-hour seminar on the importance of attending school. What would be the unintended consequences of this bill? What impact would this have on the family? The school? The staff? What about funding this requirement?

We welcome your input.

Matthew Hurt is director of the Comprehensive Instructional Program, a coalition of non-metropolitan school districts. Dr. Kathleen M. Smith has been an educator since 1975. She has served as Regional Director for the Mid-Atlantic States for Advanced l Measured Progress and Director of the Office of School Improvement with the Virginia Department of Education.


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39 responses to “School Discipline, Part III: Reframing Discipline in Virginia and Considerations for Making New Policy”

  1. Warmac9999 Avatar
    Warmac9999

    Imposing disciplinary policies on teachers without providing them with the tools to discipline is simply foolishness. Sometimes, the only realistic solution is to get rid of the problem. Yes, it is tough that a 6 year old gets expelled but his violent act was encouraged by poor parents and poor school policies. You can bet that “tough love” will get around and parents will be quite bit more careful in what the say and do to “prepare” their kids for an education rather than daily babysitting.

    I know of a school that kicked a kid out for bringing a couple of non-working parts of a gun to school. No exception. We need no exception policies in schools and everyone has to know what they are. “I didn’t know” is not an excuse. “I was angry” is not an excuse. “The teacher is a racist” is not an excuse. There are many more excuses that are really not an excuse.

    A few years ago, I had an opportunity to talk with the director of federal prisons. The issue eventually came down to punishment versus repatriation. His comment was that 80% of those released from prison went on to commit felonies. In his mind, punishment cleary worked and repatriation was kind of a scam.

    1. We need no exception policies in schools and everyone has to know what they are.

      I understand the appeal, but I oppose “zero tolerance” policies. Very often there is a reasonable explanation for why a student has done something they should not have done; or not done something they should have done.

      1. Warmac9999 Avatar
        Warmac9999

        Reasonable is the language of an excuse. Thus necessary gets discarded in the trash. Stop accepting reasonable and let everyone know that unreasonable will be the basis for action. And that necessary will be uncomfortable.

        1. Matt Adams Avatar
          Matt Adams

          “Thus necessary gets discarded in the trash.”

          No child is ever “trash”.

          1. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            Isn’t the point. Troubled children shouldn’t be mainstreamed. This six year old was a known problem who was foisted on his teacher and numerous other 6 year olds. The parents for some reason weren’t there per their agreement and somehow allowed a violent 6 year old to get a loaded gun. He should never have been there but “reasonable” people thought they had a perfect solution to mainstreaming him.. Necessary was this boy in a special school. Reasonable allowed not only this horrendous mistake and he could reasonably have killed others. Stop with the reasonable, it is simply a basis for after the fact excuses and promises to do better. Protect the kids and stop making excuses for. Imperfections in human affairs.

          2. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            No, that’s exactly your point. You’re reiterating that you believe that child was “trash”.

            The child has an acute disability, he was not “trouble”. If you take a moment to read anything about the story you’d glean that.

            You’re pontification for capital punishment will have the exact opposite desired result, it’ll will cause more incidences of violence as it’ll just add more uneducated people to a broken system.

            In addition, learn how to write, because your prose, are garbage.

            “Reasonable allowed not only this horrendous mistake and he could reasonably have killed others.”

          3. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            You do realize that there used to be special schools designed to handle troubled kids like this? And the along came the “main streamers” who said special schools don’t prepare troubled kids for society. That is conveniently untrue as the purpose and design of special schools was to focus these problem kids to participate in adult situations. But the geniuses of the “main stream” movement was we should start mainstreaming in k-12 rather than focusing on adulthood. The public schools are a basket case in far too many areas because everything is reasonable.

          4. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Again, not a troubled child. A child with a disability.

            You have zero understanding of the facts of the case and regardless of how many times you’re corrected you refuse to acknowledge your errors.

          5. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            I don’t buy into your word games. Call it what you want, actions speak louder than words.

          6. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            First and foremost, I’m not playing word games. I’m using facts of the story, which you seem to be short on.

            I’m glad it’s apparent that you think mentally disabled children are “trouble”.

          7. Warning: “Learn how to write, because your prose, are garbage” is not acceptable language on this blog.

  2. Excellent article. A lot to digest.

    From the article:
    What would be some of the measures and would these measures inadvertently create more problems for the same reasons that highlighting disproportionality may have caused some ignoring behaviors?

    Good point. Measurements are needed, but sometimes cause additional problems. It’s called the observer effect.

    In science, the term observer effect refers to changes that the act of observing will make on the phenomenon being observed.

    In the social sciences and general usage, the effect refers to how people change their behavior when aware of being watched

    Teachers and administrators will change behavior, and not necessarily in a good way. If I have to measure and document X, maybe I will do Y instead.

    Accountability can also be a two edged sword. I know for a fact that some teachers in Virginia spend less time instructing students because they are forced to extensively document what a good job they are doing.

    Worse yet, some of the teachers who do the best job documenting what a good job they are doing, aren’t actually the best at instructing. Different skill sets, or in some cases misplaced effort.

    Here’s an interesting point from the article:
    The team found that the school met all safety requirements but bullying took place in every corner. Teachers and kids were in fear.

    Without good leadership and the power to make a difference, schools aren’t going to be effective. We must recruit and retain good people, and pay them accordingly.

    The shooting in Newport News has exposed some genuine problems that need to be addressed. Teachers do not feel like they are heard or supported. I hope some good comes from it.

  3. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    Perhaps student conduct should become a measured part of overall student performance. There is a clear link between student conduct and academic performance. My daughter attends Randolph Macon Academy in Front Royal. When I access the electric gradebook to check on her progress, I can instantly find detailed information about academic performance, grades, due dates, a clear and understandable grading practice. I can also access detailed information about her conduct. It is part of the gradebook. I can discover how many demerits were earned, what she did exactly to earn those demerits, and the consequences assigned with each demerit. I can also observe commendations for good behavior. Lots of positive ways to earn commendations for doing things that promote character values. Commendations also come with rewards and privileges.

    RMA places a high value on character and academic education. Maybe it is time to connect conduct and academics together in public schools. They do go hand in hand.

    1. Warmac9999 Avatar
      Warmac9999

      Take a look at all the controls in place for this 6 year old shooter. All the RMA good ideas depend on the child and the parents. Do you think a child this violent would respond to RMA structure? Are you willing to risk your child to find out? He is a known problem that belongs in a special school designed to handle his tendencies. Hopefully, he isn’t another Michael Meyer in the making.

      1. Matt Adams Avatar
        Matt Adams

        “Do you think a child this violent would respond to RMA structure”

        This is false, the child was not “violent” they have a disability.

        Also, just for your edification the fictional serial killers name is Michael Myers.

        1. Warmac9999 Avatar
          Warmac9999

          Excuse me, but he shot a teacher. That is, by definition, a violent act. And, based on the facts so far, he planned what to do.

          1. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            “Excuse me, but he shot a teacher. That is, by definition, a violent act. And, based on the facts so far, he planned what to do.”

            He shot a teacher, yes. Is that violent, yes. Is there any evidence of your claims, no.

            He’s a disabled child which you find no issue in demonizing.

          2. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            Zero tolerance is not demonizing. Playing games with the actual facts is and it serves no one’s interests.

          3. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            You’re not playing with facts.

            Zero tolerance is in fact demonization, you’re not a perfect person. You’re human and fallible.

          4. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            More facts about the boy. He had made threats against other teachers. So is he still non violent?

          5. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            How’s about you cite, instead of defaming a child.

          6. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            You actually make my point. Fallible humans can play with the situation. Absolutes as a starting point are a priori not a posteori

          7. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            But I didn’t and zero tolerance doesn’t allow for fallibility.

            Better watch out for that beam in that eye.

          8. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            More facts in the news. He apparently planned other violent acts against other teachers and possibly students.

          9. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Facts not in evidence, nor can you source that.

            He’s disabled, which is why is parents accompanied him to school.

        2. Warmac9999 Avatar
          Warmac9999

          I haven’t seen Halloween or it’s spin-offs since Jamie Lee Curtis got old.

      2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        Yeah I was thinking about the garden variety of discipline issues that go unchecked today in our schools. 6 year old shooters was not on my radar. RMA is 8th to 12th grade. They have zero tolerance policies for weapons, fighting, booze, and drugs.

        1. Warmac9999 Avatar
          Warmac9999

          Exactly. And the parents and the students are clear about what zero tolerance means. Once you step over into maybe, then you have the potential for injury and death. By the way, what is reasonable and what are its limits?

          1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            I’ll give you an example. An 8th grader came to school with used shell casings in his coat pocket. One fell out onto the floor at lunch. He had been target shooting with his father the day before and forgot what was in his pocket. The boy was not dismissed. And then there was 5 years ago. Group of seniors decided to bring pot and booze onto campus. Just days before graduation. All had been accepted to college. Dismissed. No credit for the entire year. No college. No refund. They had to repeat the 12th grade somewhere else.

          2. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            Close call. A used shell casing is not a weapon, but he could certainly have been dismissed under zero tolerance. Nothing is perfect when it comes to mankind. The other boys knew what they were doing and got the appropriate punishment. When you start with zero tolerance, you can adjust. When you start with reasonable, that is constantly changing and not predictable. We all make mistakes, but better you have a clear understanding of the rules rather than ambiguity.

          3. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            I thought the school made the right call. Common sense and good judgement was applied in both examples.

          4. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            I agree. The school made the right call in both instances. Importantly, the boy with the empty casings still had to face the possibility of expulsion. As I said earlier, I know of a boy who brought unworkable gun parts to a school and was expelled. He deliberately brought thos gun parts to the school to show them around. Thus intent matters.

          5. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            I should add intent to the boy who forgot. What he did was unplanned and unintentional. He did not know.

          6. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            It costs me 20 grand a year to send my daughter to a school with clear rules, a safe learning environment, sound academics, and character development.

          7. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Nope!!! Zero tolerance!! You are trying to be reasonable!!

          8. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            Your ideas have created crime ridden democrat run cities. The plea bargain and zero bail is just so reasonable that thugs now freely take what they want with no fear of arrest or incarceration.

          9. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            In “Dr” Warren’s zero tolerance world, the guy who accidentally brought his used shotgun shells to school would have been likewise dismissed. It is a ridiculous position… one that is analogous to the “three strikes and you’re out” sentencing laws that have so decimated many families in our country… doing great damage to society in the process…

          10. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            You do realize that a Capitol murder trial requires all jurors to agree. That is a zero tolerance policy. Now, in lesser situations, a reasonableness standard can apply. Problem is you want every decision to be reasonable regardless of the facts. What reasonable has led to is lesser punishment because it is easier to be reasonable than to pay attention to the facts. There are murders walking the streets today because of reasonableness – and many will kill again.

  4. Kathleen Smith Avatar
    Kathleen Smith

    Wow, the comments are interesting. The many takes on the issue of zero tolerance is exactly the same takes going on today with regard to discipline policies. Hope the pendulum swings somewhere in the middle.

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