RGGI Reg Repealed, But RGGI Tax Returns to Bills

The states currently in the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative tax compact.  Put an X through Virginia as of January 2024? Pennsylvania remains covered with a question mark.

by Steve Haner

Virginia’s Air Pollution Control Board voted Wednesday to remove Virginia from the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative, keeping Republican Governor Glenn Youngkin’s promise to eliminate the related carbon tax that has been imposed on electricity ratepayers under RGGI since January 2021.

The bad news is the tax itself won’t disappear until at the earliest September 2024.  Collection from customers has been delayed.  A separate bill surcharge to collect the tax, imposed and then removed by Dominion Energy Virginia, is likely to be imposed again as of September 1 of this year.  A State Corporation Commission hearing examiner has recommended approval of Dominion’s petition to collect another $350 million or so from its customers.

The surcharge is still being calculated, as there remains some dispute over what the full costs are.  The warmer than normal winter reduced electricity demand and required fewer RGGI credits.  The surcharge should settle somewhere above $4 per 1,000 kilowatt hours of usage.  In effect, as the hearing examiner notes, Dominion is seeking to collect 17 months of RGGI allowance costs in just 12 months.

The carbon tax is a flat rate on every class of user, so major industrial and commercial customers really notice it.  They, too, seek to pass the cost along in their prices if they can.

The Air Board’s decision to withdraw from RGGI won’t be implemented until the end of the current three-year RGGI contract period, at the end of 2023.  Supporters of the regional cap and tax program are expected to sue, arguing that only the General Assembly has the authority to withdraw from the interstate compact.  So the lawsuit could either prevent withdrawal, or at least suspend the action until sometime in 2024.  Or the court could allow the withdrawal to proceed during the case.

Depending on what Dominion actually spends on RGGI compliance allowances going forward, the surcharge could remain in place into and beyond September of 2024.  Wednesday was also the date for another of the quarterly RGGI auctions, which set the price for the allowance needed to emit one ton of CO2 gas into the atmosphere.  Through the previous auctions Virginia had collected just under $590 million in carbon taxes.

As the dominant utility, with a remaining fleet of some coal and many natural gas generators, Dominion and its customers have been the most impacted by Virginia joining RGGI.  Several independent power plants also must buy RGGI allowances and pass the cost on to their customers, as well, and to the extent that power flows to Virginia electricity customers, that also comes out of their pockets.

The other large utility, Appalachian Power, has little to no generation within the state and buys few if any RGGI credits.  Virginia’s electric coops share ownership of a major Southside Virginia coal plant with Dominion, so the coops do buy significant RGGI credits.

This argument has lasted longer than five years.  Perhaps the first discussion on Bacon’s Rebellion showed up in May 2018.  Over the years several other discussions or news reports have been posted, and the Thomas Jefferson Institute for Public Policy issued a white paper on the topic in 2019, beginning its efforts to keep Virginia out of the compact.

Democrats were quick with their condemnation of the move, including a demonstration outside the Air Board meeting followed by a huge wave of social media.  Most of the messages followed what is now the usual tactic of blaming any adverse weather condition on supposed “climate change,” in this case the haze floating over much of the United States from Canadian forest fires.  There is zero evidence fires have become more common as temperatures and greenhouse gases have crept up in recent decades.

But ironically, just as it was a warmer than expected winter, the particulates from the fires should cool temperatures within the RGGI zone for a while, again reducing the demand for electricity and RGGI allowances.

Since the tax will still be on electricity bills and very visible, and the court challenge will probably be underway, Virginia’s participation in RGGI will likely remain a topic of debate for the November elections.  Clearly Democrats think it is highly popular, but polling continues to indicate most American’s have little tolerance for higher prices to fight “climate change.”  Many Democrats disliked RGGI in a poll done by the Jefferson Institute.

The Air Board was told the public comments it received, when repeated mass emails were discounted, represented about a three-to-one ratio is favor of retaining membership.  Much of the support centered on the ways the money is being spent, partly for flood protection projects and partly on home energy efficiency repairs.

A similar legal battle over RGGI is still raging in Pennsylvania, which has more than twice as many facilities that would need to start paying the carbon tax to operate.  Those are among the fossil fuel plants which feed into the PJM Interconnection regional electricity market, but at a lower price than Dominion’s plants due to the RGGI tax.  The disconnect between RGGI’s footprint and PJM’s is one reason RGGI has been ineffective at lowering total carbon emissions overall.

As the many links indicate, this has been a long and repetitive argument. In the meantime, if you are among those convinced carbon dioxide is going to kill the planet, pull up the covers and wait for The End. It keeps rising.  Forty years of hysteria and drastic action have not bent the extremely stable curve a bit.  Maybe we should ask again if humans are actually the main cause of that?


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39 responses to “RGGI Reg Repealed, But RGGI Tax Returns to Bills”

  1. vicnicholls Avatar
    vicnicholls

    Glad we’re out. Common sense has to prevail.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Well, it seldom does… 🙁

      I need to do something else on the Democrats’ theme that our being in RGGI somehow has or would prevent the forest fires in Canada. The data on fires in the U.S. are clear that things are way better than 80-90 years ago, although the alarmists like to take charts like the one below and pick a start date that invents an up trend…

      https://www.baconsrebellion.com/app/uploads/2023/06/US-fires-and-acres-burned.png

      Without low information voters, how would they survive?

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        I would never have known about RGGI if not for your informative articles.

      2. Nathan Avatar

        Perception becomes reality.

        That, unfortunately, influences numerous issues in the news and bad policy is often the result.

      3. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Nice, now normalize by the number of wildland acreage at each year. As humans and fire reduce fuel, the size of the fires will reduce for awhile.

        In 1930 there were huge swaths of wildlands and fewer people who cared if it burned.

        What would be a better graph would be cost/manpower spent fighting wildfires over time.

        The top 5 years of acreage burned since 1960 have been in the last 20 years, the top 3 in the last decade.

        https://sgp.fas.org/crs/misc/IF10244.pdf

  2. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    How about the California income-based electricity rates? See, things could go further south… uh, west.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      So, Virginia instead is supposed to have PIPP, the rate cap for low income customers. Same deal, the cost gets imposed on everybody else by shifting. But after passing it in 2020, 2021 , the whole thing has fallen into a hole. Was supposed to start this year. Perhaps Youngkin sitting on it. Perhaps progressives want to wait until after the election. Could be another RGGI-size hit on your bill.

      When PIPP kicks in, one biggie will be the wind project. PIPP qualified customers will be exempt from paying for the wind, pushing the cost up for everybody else. Will also create the same bureaucratic nightmare as the CA scheme as eligibility is determined.

    2. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      So, Virginia instead is supposed to have PIPP, the rate cap for low income customers. Same deal, the cost gets imposed on everybody else by shifting. But after passing it in 2020, 2021 , the whole thing has fallen into a hole. Was supposed to start this year. Perhaps Youngkin is sitting on it. Perhaps progressives want to wait until after the election. Could be another RGGI-size hit on your bill.

      When PIPP kicks in, one biggie will be the wind project. PIPP qualified customers will be exempt from paying for the wind, pushing the cost up for everybody else. Will also create the same bureaucratic nightmare as the CA scheme as eligibility is determined. But the law on this is far more clear than on RGGI. Why don’t the D’s care?

      1. how_it_works Avatar
        how_it_works

        Does “PIPP” still apply to low (documented)-income customers who are sharing a 3-bedroom house in Manassas with 10 other people?

        Asking for a friend.

        1. Stephen Haner Avatar
          Stephen Haner

          Well, nobody qualifies yet, so we’ll just have to see how (if) they set it up. If they are getting welfare benefits, probably yes. That’s one way to pick the winners.

  3. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    How about the California income-based electricity rates? See, things could go further south… uh, west.

  4. William O'Keefe Avatar
    William O’Keefe

    Withdrawing from is a very sensible decision since RGGI is a scam to make and redistribute money; not to affect emissions or climate change. To be justified, there would have to be an analysis that shows that a cap on emissions and a compact is the most cost-effective way to reduce emissions. It is not.
    There can be debates over whether emission reductions from new technology and shifts from more carbon intensive fuels to less intensive are a better approach but there can be no valid argument that what we do is going to make that much of a difference in global emissions which continue to grow.
    The US and other developed countries have supported a climate narrative that is tied to the growth in CO2 emissions leading to environmental disaster. The data on climate events do not support that and the politicization of the International Panel on Climate Change demonstrates that proponents are growing more desperate.
    We need to call a pause to re-examine the climate knowledge gained over the last 30 years, the validity and usefulness of climate models as policy instruments, and rethink the best way to maintain healthy economic growth and reduce actual climate risks.

  5. WayneS Avatar

    Supporters of the regional cap and tax program are expected to sue, arguing only the General Assembly has the authority to withdraw from the interstate compact.

    And like it or not, they are probably right.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      I’ll cover that. The actual statute was not well drafted. Intent doesn’t matter. It will an interesting case.

      1. WayneS Avatar

        As much as I oppose Virginia being part of the RGGI, if it took legislation to get us into it, then it should take legislation (or a court finding of unconstitutionality) to get us out of it.

        Unelected bureaucrats should not be taking those decisions.

        1. Stephen Haner Avatar
          Stephen Haner

          1) The law merely “authorizes” (uses may not shall) action by the Air Board and 2) an elected Governor appointed the air board. This is what these boards do, act on the authority delegated to them. It should stand.

          McAuliffe was joining RGGI before any GA action happened by regulation. No GA vote was required to join then, and efforts to create such a requirement were vetoed. The same legislators who opposed the GA making the decision then are those saying only the GA can now.

          Fun stuff, huh?

          1. WayneS Avatar

            Yes. Thank you for the lesson in the history and politics of RGGI.

          2. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
            f/k/a_tmtfairfax

            It’s just like journalism. If a story will favor the left’s political position, it will be published. If it hurts, don’t publish it. And by the way, there should be taxes imposed to support this needed journalism. Just look at California.

            If executive action advances the cause of the left, legislation is not needed. If legislation would advance the cause of the left, it is needed.

      2. William Chambliss Avatar
        William Chambliss

        I agree with this Steve. It seems to me that legislation that permits the Board to issue regulations would also allow the subsequent amendment or withdrawal of them. If the programs funded by electric customers are worthy (and they do seem to me to be), they should be part of the regular budget supported by regular taxes.

        Just my opinion. Not a fan of taxes assessed via utility bills.

      3. William Chambliss Avatar
        William Chambliss

        I agree with this Steve. It seems to me that legislation that permits the Board to issue regulations would also allow the subsequent amendment or withdrawal of them. If the programs funded by electric customers are worthy (and they do seem to me to be), they should be part of the regular budget supported by regular taxes.

        Just my opinion. Not a fan of taxes assessed via utility bills.

  6. THIS IS RIDICULES…… every knows it’s settled science that the decrease in Mammoths up north is causing the increase in northern wild fires, which is causing Hampton Roads to sink into the water…Adam Shiff-ty showed me the evidence

    1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
      f/k/a_tmtfairfax

      The late New York County DA on Law and Order?

  7. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    “There is zero evidence fires have become more common as temperatures and greenhouse gases have crept up in recent decades.”

    Zero…?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ad052910c06786d490da925881b7d4b42a73037ed90e4d63192427e41fc6da76.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4dce79c66474118dbc7bc12405300c1ccb40abbc72c158ac9d540e89a5227be8.jpg

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      That’s not evidence. You need to eliminate the liberal eco-terrorist caused fires that were set to prevent logging old growth forests. Then, catch CO2 with matches.

    2. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Exactly the end point bias I predicted you would try, ignoring the early 20th C. You and Nancy both. Even the IPCC admits there is no evidence “climate change” is causing more fires. IPCC is YOUR guys…

    3. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Exactly the end point bias I predicted you would try, ignoring the early 20th C. You and Nancy both. Even the IPCC admits there is no evidence “climate change” is causing more fires. IPCC is YOUR guys, and more honest than EPA (sadly).

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        So there is evidence that “fires have become more common as temperatures and greenhouse gases have crept up in recent decades” (no question that there has been a increase in recent decades) you just don’t agree with the implications. Btw, any idea what might have been happening in the 20s and 30s in North America that may have created anomalous forest fire activities…. real head scratcher there… further don’t you think there may have been a technological difference between forest fire response and control in the early 1900s and today… something to do with an IC engine…?

  8. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    Withdrawal is becoming a hallmark of the Youngkin administration. The AG withdrew VA support for the ERA, approved by vote of the GA. Then, VA abandoned the benefits of ERIC. Now a move to withdraw from RIGGI, also approved by the GA. There’s an effort afoot in Texas to declare its independence from the U.S. where is Youngkin taking VA?

  9. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Probably unproductive to look at wildfires and acreage etc., since the US is one of maybe 10 countries that can throw efforts and resources to controlling/ending them, and we’ve developed retardants with delivery systems in the last 40 years that others don’t have. I would have included Canada. Apparently not.

    In addition, in the rest of the world, the stupid buggers are lighting them on purpose!

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Again, if the data are inconvenient, dismiss them. Got it. Canada is very, very big and mostly trees. 🙂 No question, having a bad year.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Seriously, you’re hanging your hat on burnt acreage? If that’s the case then both Eric and I have posted links contradictory of your conclusions. What counts is AFTER Smokey Bear was born. It’s trending up.

        1. CJBova Avatar

          A counterpoint is situations like the 2018 Camp Fire in Northern Calif. 153,336 acres burned, caused by the combination of a faulty PG&E electric transmission line and state policies that prevented proper management of forested lands. Millions of trees that died from bark beetles or drought have fueled Calif wildfires.

          https://www.fire.ca.gov/our-impact/remembering-the-camp-fire
          https://lhc.ca.gov/report/fire-mountain-rethinking-forest-management-sierra-nevada

    2. CJBova Avatar

      L.A. leased two water scooper air tankers from Canada to fight wildfires last year paid for by Calif Edison. They have them Calif doesn’t have enough of their own.
      https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=suuper.+scoopers+from.+canada#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:2a2ec14f,vid:UxJ8vB347e8

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Yep, and in 1978-ish Norfolk sold its snowplows just before the 1981 storm that dumped 3 feet on the city. Are you suggesting California screwed up? Or Canada did?

        I also noticed that California leased them, but they’re paid for by CalEdison, probably with money saved by reduced liability insurance premiums. Money, money, money.

        It’s a regional thing too, Carol. When Florida gets slammed by a hurricane, Dominion AND Canada send crews.

        If you lived here when we were hit, I’ll bet you saw crews from Nova Scotia.

        1. CJBova Avatar

          The point was simply Canada has been better prepared for fires than the US, and policies have had more to do with massive fire events than climate change. Between the build up of forest fuel and lack of right of way maintenance by electric companies in Cali, fires there have been disasters that could have been mitigated. Dominion has been more proactive in my area the last few years and we’ve had fewer power disruptions from trees falling on lines. Still happens but much less often and for shorter periods.

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Oddly, we are each equally well prepared… https://www.nifc.gov/nicc/logistics/Canada_Support.pdf

            “What’s mine is yours, and what’s yours is mine.” 😉

          2. Stephen Haner Avatar
            Stephen Haner

            Fires have always been part of forest ecology and in the long game are highly beneficial. One or two degrees Celsius change over 100 years is a freaking rounding error.

  10. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
    energyNOW_Fan

    I am not RGGI membership fan either, but I could not think of anything new to add to that I have not already said. However, I finally thought of a new item…

    …which is that apparently Pennsylvania is considering or planning to join RGGI. PA is one of the biggest exporters of (fossil) elec to the other RGGI states, so it’ll be interesting to see how RGGI works longer term (but there is still OH, WV, Canada as major electron exporters which allows the RGGI states to brag about shutting down their fossil plants since they can import elec from outside their state boundaries).

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