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Return to Bull Run: Pumping the Brakes on Data Center Construction

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by James Wyatt Whitehead, V

Conflict rages yet again on the site of two major Civil War Battles, Manassas National Battlefield Park, in Prince William County, Virginia. This is nothing new to Northern Virginia residents who can recall the rally cry of “Save the Battlefield.” In 1988, developers fought and lost the battle to build a 1.2 million square-foot mall on property essential to the core of Manassas Battlefield. In 1993, the Walt Disney Company proposed building a 3,000-acre history theme park in nearby Haymarket, Virginia. Preservationists effectively stonewalled the idea and Disney retreated in fear of losing a coveted positive public image.

The Battle of Manassas rages yet again in 2023. This time the antagonist is the Prince William County Board of Supervisors. In November 2022, the board approved on a 5-2 vote a change in zoning rules that would permit the construction of data centers. The property in question is adjacent to the western border of the battlefield. The current plan for the Prince William Digital Gateway encompasses 2,139 acres of land.

So far, no site plans have been submitted for approval, but that is the next step in bringing data centers directly next to Manassas National Battlefield. Local residents remain divided on the issue. A 14-hour public hearing on the PW Digital Gateway Plan yielded arguments in favor of preservation of historic land and a rebuttal in favor of potential tax benefits to the county treasury.

Preservation reinforcements are on the way! State Senator Chap Petersen (D-Fairfax) offered Senate Bill 1078. The proposed bill specifically states that data centers cannot be built within one mile of national parks, state parks, and other historically significant sites. The bill also includes a measure to study the impact data centers may have on water resources and carbon emissions. Petersen also filed Joint Senate Resolution 240 that tasks the Department of Energy to study the impact of data center development upon the resources of the Commonwealth. The bill has a long and winding road ahead and will likely evolve with many amendments.

In a recent interview, Petersen offered, “What can go wrong? I really just wanted to pump the brakes on this (data center development).”

Petersen should be commended for bringing the debate of data center development in Virginia to Capitol Square in Richmond. The consequences and benefits of data centers should be scrutinized and balanced against sensible preservation of historic and cultural resources that are vital to all Virginians.

James Wyatt Whitehead V is a retired Loudoun County history teacher.

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73 responses to “Return to Bull Run: Pumping the Brakes on Data Center Construction”

  1. Kathleen Smith Avatar
    Kathleen Smith

    It is NOVA after all. You would think with the recent layoffs at Microsoft, Google, META and Twitter, the digital data industry might also take a slight cautionary dive? Keep us informed. Green historical places are hard to come by. But then saying I want to go to a Civil War Battleground must be accompanied by some Union rhetoric. I learned more about the Civil War visiting Battlefields than I did in history class. Made it real.

  2. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    is this what the article is about? I did a satellite view to show the existing development around it.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/77eba483e23843eb45a01dfcd3973943d95d65562ddffeb49c832baa224de102.jpg

    and this is the proposal?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/46b2410ce3ea19ac54bf5e6b7d8f39df01b1046a92cd032d10ec3bba06296a7f.jpg

  3. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    It used to be “Don’t Fairfax Loudoun!”… lost that one to the “Property Rights Rule!” crowd. Now the cry is “Don’t Loudoun Manassas Battlefield!”… ? Been there… my condolences, James…

    1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
      James Wyatt Whitehead

      The slogan seems to be “Pave Prince William and Loudoun Now!”

      1. James Kiser Avatar
        James Kiser

        Seems? how about it is and the monster behind the growth is the massive expansion of the federal govt.

  4. James Regimbal Avatar
    James Regimbal

    If you want pump the brakes on data centers, get rid of the $100 mil. plus sales tax exemption they receive for the equipment that fills them.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      No, no, Jim, we’re going to EXPAND it, EXTEND it. Did you miss Amazon’s very big and under appreciated announcement?

      1. Nathan Avatar
        Nathan

        Amazon’s AWS to invest $35 billion in Virginia

        https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/amazons-aws-invest-35-bln-virginia-2023-01-20/

        1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
          James Wyatt Whitehead

          Local government needs to build in some rules about dismantling the data centers the day they become obsolete. Otherwise, the landscape will have one hell of a permanent eyesore. The next big thing will make this kind of data storage a relic of the past in short time.

          1. Nathan Avatar
            Nathan

            Sounds like you are suggesting something akin to what was implemented for mining operations.

            I’ve lived in many different states in my lifetime. Virginia seems to tollerate abandon buildings more than most places. That may just be my impression, however.

          2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            Exactly. Senator Petersen made the comparison of a traditional mine to the crypto mines. I must say I had not thought of it this way before.

          3. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            I’ve driven around a few different states and it does seem to me that Virginia tolerates abandoned buildings much more than others.

            Right now off of 234 business in Prince William County is a commercial building (appears to have been an auto repair shop at one point) that has been rotting since at least 2008.

            The roof is now completely caved in.

            You don’t see that sort of thing in prosperous areas….

            EDIT: I posted a picture of this eyesore elsewhere in this comment section.

  5. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    There is a pile of relatively undeveloped land that some day will be developed as something unless that land is purchased and set aside as part of the battlefield.

    That part , encroaching development is more or less inevitable though I do wonder if folks remember the Disney proposal.

    So would you want that land to ultimately be more residential along with the roads, schools, fire stations to serve it or something a lot less intensive or intensive in a different way?

    We have a ton of Battlefields down in Fredericksburg and this issue is not uncommon but most land is privately owned and will be sold for the highest and best use (whatever that really means) unless some NGO like the Battlefield Trust can buy select parcels when they can.

    So is the question not whether you want or don’t want data centers there but what do you want instead?

    To give some context – below is what is left of Lee’s Hill in Fredericksburg – bordered on one side by residential and on the other by an industrial park – about 800 ft of corridor:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2682972b01b0f372ba86acfafac797a9855c575fb969b03ad018ee7d21ff8b6c.jpg

    ” On the western side of Fredericksburg, atop a hill once known as Telegraph Hill, Confederate General Robert E. Lee made his headquarters in anticipation of the battle of Fredericksburg. Initially, Lee and the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia were situated further south. As reports came in that the United States Army was amassing at Fredericksburg, and just waiting there, Lee moved his army into position outside of Fredericksburg.”

    1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      I clearly recall the shouts of “No New Taxes!” and “Property Rights!” from a certain segment of the political spectrum when Loudoun’s slow growthers proposed a purchase of development rights (PDR) campaign funded through the county budget… pretty sure “Marxists!!” was a rallying cry as well.

      This article captures the battle well:

      http://m.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2004/jan/13/residents-split-over-gop-actions/

      Also an example:

      “Virtually everyone agrees that western Loudoun’s distinctive landscape should be preserved, but they disagree vehemently over how. Some want to follow the lead of neighboring Montgomery County to the north and spend public funds to buy and maintain open space. But many Loudouners, including Myers, view such programs as vaguely socialistic and highly suspect. They insist that market forces prevail.”

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1997/03/24/in-loudoun-two-worlds-collide/1ae31c7d-b600-4f9e-87a7-509ac5728132/

      Btw, this is the “Myers” referenced in the article:

      https://www.linkedin.com/in/dale-myers-1ab57412

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        I believe 30 or 40 percent of Loudoun’s local budget is derived from the data centers. Politicians can’t get enough revenue from what seems to be an endless trough.

      2. James Kiser Avatar
        James Kiser

        And when Myers was gone did that stop the development? Nope York was ok with developers as long as they gave company business,

        1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          In a way, A-3 zoning was stopped in western Loudoun in exchange for A-20+ zoning but we still had to go through the Republican Tulloch/Snow board under which the real damage was done… note they stopped the Purchase of Development Rights program in its tracks and stripped York of all his power on day one.

          1. James Kiser Avatar
            James Kiser

            A 20 zoning is pretty much gone now. lots of developments in Loudoun with less that an acre. especially along 50

          2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Not very much in Western Loudoun (with the exception of developments in the town utility service areas).

  6. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    We don’t want Ford. We don’t want Amazon! Go away! Go away!

    1. Donald Smith Avatar
      Donald Smith

      OK, I’ll bite. What do we want?

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        Why don’t we want FORD, or Amazon, or data centers, or solar farms or , as you say in the other thread,
        jobs and income for families? Used to be… conservatives were die hards on business and economic progress and it was the wackadoodles that did Occupy WallStreet and other similar foolishness.

        1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
          f/k/a_tmtfairfax

          It’s the Chinese that cause the problem. The FCC has stripped several Chinese carriers of their operating authority due to national security concerns. And FCC Chair Jessica Rosenworcel has called for periodic review of all foreign carriers for security risks. She’s a regular Harry Truman, concerned about U.S. security.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Don’t have a problem with the US doing it. But if Youngkin tells Ford to go away, he’s actually telling them
            to go to NC , SC, Tenn…. and they get the jobs. Conservatives USED to reason this way….

        2. Donald Smith Avatar
          Donald Smith

          A whole lot of things used to be. Liberals used to care about free speech. And, you didn’t answer my question. What do “we” want?

    2. James Kiser Avatar
      James Kiser

      Ford story turned out tbe false. Just another ploy by the RTD and democrat owned news media to blame a Republican for no job development. RTD was told the story was false and printed a retraction after Ford told them the real story which was no site had been selected. The retraction required eyestrain by me to see it. The WSJ report was easier on the eyes.

  7. Mom Avatar
    Mom

    Unfortunately, at least two rezoning applications and general development plans have been filed for roughly 27 millions square feet of data center development. Below is an example. As the map indicates they do abut both National and State parks as well as residential neighborhoods. There are numerous issues that suggest the plans are incompatible with the surrounding areas, noise, water, environmental impact, etc. not to mention the gigawatts of power needed to energize those data centers. Don’t be fooled by the transmission corridor bisecting the property, Dominion has been quite clear that there is NO capacity on those lines for a project of this scale and that several new transmission lines and scores of substations will be required. And yes, that infrastructure be it above or belong ground will be paid for by the ratepayers and not the data centers. This will also create several likely years long fights over routing of those new lines. Dominion is between a rock and a hard place on this one, they are mandated to supply the power but aware of the fight that will be on their hands and the bad PR it will bring. Then there is the issue of how that additional capacity would be generated. Wind and solar aren’t going to do so take you choice, gas (in short supply on the market as seen over Christmas), nukes or coal. I’m betting coal which would make the goals of the Clean Virginia Economy Act unattainable. Lastly, Dominion and PJM have already told Loudoun County (with a total of 22 million square feet) that they can not power new data centers for a number of years as the infrastructure isn’t there and the current stress on the grid has already led to several N-1-1 violations of NERC standards. For those in the know, that portends cascading power failures for NOVA if not the Commonwealth as a whole. This is an issue that impacts far more than just Prince William County. If the Imperial Clown Show were in any way competent, they would enact some form of Chap’s bill and force the data centers to locate elsewhere in the Commonwealth, in areas with abundant power and waters as well as a greater need for that level of esconomic development and employment opportunities. Sen. Stanley and Del. Kilgore, are you paying attention to the opportunities this bill presents to your constituents? For more info on just this one rezoning see:

    https://egcss.pwcgov.org/SelfService#/plan/1737b24a-1664-4972-b370-c2436b052e63?tab=attachments

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f383b6f818c6dc03220fb27af94fcf5b80ecfada0354c99c92bfa2e7b99575e6.jpg

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      And then come the EVs, and the push to make all home and office heating and appliances electric. Yeah, easy peezy.

    2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
      James Wyatt Whitehead

      You are right about the power lines. The last time they were redirected slightly west of Brawner Farm the battle raged for a number of years. NPS wanted them moved off park property. They lost.

    3. James Kiser Avatar
      James Kiser

      Wonder where they will build the windmills needed?

  8. kls Avatar
    kls

    I thought everyone was moving data to ‘the cloud ‘?

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      they are but they don’t want it in their back yard!

  9. Rosie Avatar
    Rosie

    Hey, preserving actual history is something I can get behind.

    1. CJBova Avatar
      CJBova

      You want to rethink what you wrote after reading this?
      https://www.britannica.com/topic/property-law/Property-law-and-the-Western-concept-of-private-property

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        Nope. Not at all. Are you denying Colonialism and the realities of how most folks like Jefferson came to own thousands of acres they did not buy?

        Or the railroads wee not given land they did not buy from the original residents?

        1. CJBova Avatar
          CJBova

          Property rights have existed back into antiquity. Jefferson personally inherited land from his father to answer part of your statement. “Original residents” doesn’t apply. Congress gave land grants of land previously owned by other countries that had become US public domain to railroads, colleges, and homesteaders. That public domain land came from colonial land claimed by England and given by King’s Grants before the American Revolution. Jefferson negotiated the 1803 treaty for the Louisiana Purchase of 828,000 square miles from the French Republic. The US purchased Florida from Spain. The Republic of Texas declared independence from Mexico and the land was eventually annexed. The Oregon Territory was from treaty with Great Britain. Mexico ceded 529,000 miles after the Mexican-American War. The Gadsden Treaty purchased over 29,000 sq miles from Mexico (Arizona and New Mexico). The Alaska purchase was from Russia.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            How did Jefferson father obtain that land? Where did the King of England get it? How did the indigenous people’s property rights figure into this?

          2. CJBova Avatar
            CJBova

            Land Grant from Lt. Governor of Virginia. https://tjrs.monticello.org/letter/2448 If you don’t choose to do the research yourself, I’d be happy to do that for you at my usual hourly rate. Contact me via comment at caroljbova.com
            Ending this topic now.

  10. Donald Smith Avatar
    Donald Smith

    As a great-grandson of a Confederate cavalryman and passionate Civil War heritage enthusiast—-we already have plenty of preserved Civil War battlefields in Virginia. Especially Northern Virginia. Manassas National Battlefield isn’t big enough already?

    We need businesses that will offer good-paying jobs to our kids. We need data centers close to our metro areas. If the only black mark against this data center turns out to be that it’s next to a Civil War battlefield, then figure out a way to build the damn thing!

    1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
      James Wyatt Whitehead

      What a difference 30 or 40 years makes. When the mall was coming and then Disney an epic David and Goliath battle and David won. This time it appears that preservationists have a much bigger giant to fell.

      1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
        f/k/a_tmtfairfax

        Wearing Union Blue, I marched on the Bull Run Battlefield protesting Disney one hot July day in 1988.

        1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
          James Wyatt Whitehead

          I was working that day at the battlefield. What a beautiful sight it was to see so many who cared. Those of us who worked at the park thought we were all alone sometimes.

    2. James Kiser Avatar
      James Kiser

      Good point they ran Disney off and look what they got more strip malls and housing

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        The PW Digital Gateway is going to be developed. No stopping it. I would rather have subdivisions than the concrete bunkers of a data center. There is the possibility of say the Piedmont Environmental Council or the National Trust purchasing development rights in exchange for tax credits. But I doubt it now. The time to do that was twenty or thirty years ago.

      2. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        My essential point here is that unless the land in question is actually purchased/donated/put in a conservation easement/etc, that at some point, after the opposition has dissipated, the land WILL be developed in there is population growth and demand.

        We have a cr_p load of “historic” battlefield land down Fredericksburg/Spotsylvania way and much of it now is houses , schools, commercial development, etc.

        1. James Kiser Avatar
          James Kiser

          oh I agree and as people lose touch with history then it isn’t important anymore.

    3. Donald Smith Avatar
      Donald Smith

      Not until you come up on the front page. Until then, you’re still a weenie—although I don’t recall ever calling you that. I did probably call you an “ankle-biter,” and I stand by that.

  11. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    Chap Petersen had this to say in a recent interview. I think he is right.
    “Everyone thinks it’s free money. It’s not free. I think the revenue outflow – I don’t want to say overrated – is temporary. I think the buildings depreciate pretty fast, and you’re stuck with these buildings that could be obsolete,”

  12. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
    f/k/a_tmtfairfax

    It’s quite common to have a transition area between open space, parks, residential areas, etc. and industrial uses. Seems reasonable to push the data centers further away from Park boundaries and require some extensive screening between the two.

    1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
      James Wyatt Whitehead

      The PW Digital Gateway is the wrong place. Sandwiched between dense residential area and a pristine battlefield. Manassas Battlefield is the only place you can go now to know what Northern Virginia once looked like.

    2. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      Yes. The thing that IS killing NoVa including PW is traffic from residential growth.

      1. Mom Avatar
        Mom

        Then you will be happy to know that the Digital Gateway CPA included $1 billion in road projects (outside of the CPA boundaries) to quietly accomplish the Bi-County Parkway. Oops, forgot those road expansions will bring more traffic and more residential growth leading to more traffic and more development…the hamster wheel never keeps turning. Larry if you don’t know anything about the history of this project, you might want to stay silent on the subject.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          re: “silent” – Unless the land is set aside and not developed , preserved , then the proffered roads will
          help the existing already built and future zoned residential traffic (plus schools, fire, etc) but if the land
          is not preserved, it more than likely WILL be developed and then it’s for what and residential is by far the
          most impactful on roads, schools, fire/rescue, commercial retail that all generate traffic. You don’t have
          to be from Prince William to see what land development does. Works the same way down Spotsylvania way!

          1. Mom Avatar
            Mom

            As I noted earlier Larry, this topic is far too complex for your generalizations and cogent analysis requires a level of information that you understandably do not possess. You sound silly to those in PWC who are fully aware of the forces at work and the consequences of what is planned.

          2. VaPragamtist Avatar
            VaPragamtist

            “the forces at work”

            There are so many consultants, attorneys, and engineering firms getting so rich off of these projects. . .

          3. Mom Avatar
            Mom

            Not playing your game this time. You have no idea what you are talking about.

          4. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Been there done that – things you don’t know.

        2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
          James Wyatt Whitehead

          Oh yeah. Long time dream of Loudoun and Prince William to connect North Star Road to Pageland Lane and then to Reagan Highway. Presto! You have an outer beltway. Well a half moon. It will take another generation to bridge the Potomac into the Poolesville side of Maryland.

          1. Mom Avatar
            Mom

            Long time dream of their departments of transportation, economic development offices, chambers of commerce, Gary Garzinski and of course Til Hazel. Long time nightmare of PWC residents in that east west corridor.

          2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            The “i”s are dotted and the “t”s are crossed. So much money to be made. Been on the planning books since the early 1990s. The battlefield is a sort of Gibraltar to the entire project of highways and data centers. Unless extraordinary action is taken, like Petersen’s bill, nothing is going to stop this.

  13. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    Hmmm. Related? Eliminating the overhead lines lessens opposition to these projects.
    https://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?231+sum+HB1637

    When an underground transmission line is built to protect local viewsheds, of course, the added capital cost is spread among ALL Dominion jurisdictional customers. The Tragedy of the Commons? Is that the phrase? Not a perfect fit.

  14. James Kiser Avatar
    James Kiser

    I don’t know why you think the battlefields should be saved and I say this in all seriousness. These battlefields mean nothing to immigrants legal or illegal and mean very little to the children of many people who have been here for generations. The history of the US means nothing to them nor the revisionists now destroying what little history was taught in the name of whatever. I lived in NoVA from the age or 3 /4 on Gallows Rd (the original one not the one there now) at Tysons Corner and then Sterling Park from 1967 till 2015. NO ONE has stopped the developers and you won’t stop these developers either. Remember the vows of Don’t Fairfax Loudoun. LOL what a joke.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      Battlefields serve also as green space and parks which are valued amenities both regional and close by and just ask the folks that built right next to the boundaries! Just as good as a conservation easement! 😉

      1. James Kiser Avatar
        James Kiser

        then say that and stop the battlefield BS

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          You might want to read my earlier comments supporting development…..as well as green space…

    2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
      James Wyatt Whitehead

      It does look like a road to Appomattox.

  15. VaPragamtist Avatar
    VaPragamtist

    This is an excellent bill. This article and the discussion focus on Northern Virginia and battlefields specifically, but the bill is broader than that with farther reaching consequences: it’s not just battlefields, but within 1 mile of state and national parks, and culturally significant sites.

    It also requires due diligence on the part of localities to assess the environmental impact of the proposed data center (data centers consume massive amounts of water, for example).

    Prince Edward County, a drought-prone area, is trying to build a data center within 1 mile of High Bridge Trail State Park. The elected officials there see only dollar signs, thanks to the Timmons Group who has been leading this project. Most of the public isn’t aware of the project, much less the consequences. A bill like this would help bring some due diligence into the process.

    Or look at how local officials completely ignored the cultural significance of the black cemetery they paved over in order to build the Microsoft data center in Mecklenburg County.

    Officials in Northern Virginia arguably have more expertise on these subjects and can make educated, well-thought out decisions weighing all variables. Those in rural Southside Virginia just want a piece of the data center pie. Requirements to ensure cultural preservation and compel local officials to do their due diligence in assessing impact is critical.

    1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
      James Wyatt Whitehead

      The bill certainly has all Virginians in mind. I love it when Senator Petersen is willing to stand in the wind against powerful forces. The bill has a weakness, it is bare bones right now. The sponsor admits it is just a starting point and is open to amendments. What will become of it in committee? Will it even see the light of day as a floor vote? Would the governor even sign it?

      1. VaPragamtist Avatar
        VaPragamtist

        I disagree with him on a lot of things, but Peterson is becoming more and more one of my favorite senators. Very pragmatic, always with the public interest in mind.

  16. how_it_works Avatar
    how_it_works

    What becomes of obsolete commercial buildings in Prince William County?

    A possible answer:

    A rotted out, decaying commercial building visible from business 234 in Prince William County:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fb8871d2748b1d31564912103ff72111c0494064e6ac77fd4d9a477f131e0293.png

  17. James C. Sherlock Avatar
    James C. Sherlock

    Sen Petersen is the conscience of the Senate

    1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      Personally, I hope Peterson succeeds but then again I am a Liberal (aka “Marxist” in BR-speak). Bottom line is that Peterson’s bill is really very top-down, anti-property rights, pro-big government legislation… which again I support this time since it targets developers. Are you sure you haven’t switched sides…??

  18. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    This thread is probably over but thought I’d add something from Spotsylvania about the First Day Battle at Chancellorsville. That Battlefield is roughly similar to Manassas with one big difference and that being that the Manassas Battlefield (not all of it) that has been preserved while only a small amount of the Chancellorsville Battlefield was preserved.

    Anyone who has driven west on Rt 3 from Fredericksburg towards Culpeper or Charlottesville has driven right through the middle of it and can see for themselves how development has occurred over time despite local efforts to stop the rezones. Some berms and buffers have been put up but what they can’t stop is the traffic that comes from the development which makes Rt 3 an incredibly busy road that cannot be widened without approval from NPS which they have not given so far.

    below are the two maps:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a17c291c5347d52493266265ff67274bfc3a17664d6a0eac088abcee525f69c6.jpg

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5966052ca3e6f0eb767616e1d916eb0f94ca601d0c36c0d206a53eef6006e95b.jpg

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