Red Ripple

by James A. Bacon

So much for the red wave, much less the red tsunami, or the red once-every-60-million-years-asteroid-extinction that would obliterate the Democratic Party that a few delusional conservative bloggers imagined. The mid-term elections resulted in a red ripple. As of this writing, it looks like Republicans will win a narrow majority in the House of Representatives, while Republican control of the Senate, while not yet determined, remains very much in doubt.

Here in Virginia, Republicans gained one House seat — Jennifer Kiggans displaced Elaine Luria in Hampton Roads — but the Dems survived two hotly contested races, returning Abigail Spanberger and Jennifer Wexton to Congress. The outcome was better for Team Red than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick… but still disappointing compared to its high expectations.

Votes by congressional district. (Independents not included.)

If there was ever any question, Virginia remains a blue state — perhaps we could more generously say a blue state with a purplish tinge. With 99% to 100% of all precincts reporting this morning, the Virginia Department of Elections reports Democratic congressional candidates winning 1,515,000 votes to Republicans’ 1,439,000 votes.

If that’s the best the GOP can muster in an off-year election, which typically goes against the party that holds the White House, with 8% to 9% inflation, broken borders, raging culture wars, runaway budget deficits, declining stock market, crime in the streets, and all the rest, Republicans have a lot of work to do. It appears that the Democratic strategy of running on abortion and against Donald Trump worked.

The silver lining for Republicans in the national elections was the strong showing of Ron DeSantis in Florida. DeSantis ran on a populist conservative, Trump-like platform without Trump’s baggage of narcicissm, election denial, Jan. 6 dereliction of duty, and capacity to ignite the incandescent hatred of Democrats and the mainstream media. DeSantis trounced his opponent in the gubernatorial race, effectively turning Florida over his four years in office from a purple state into a red state. According to Newsweek, bookmakers now rate DeSantis the favorite to be the next president of the United States, behind Trump and and Biden. The challenge for Republicans is to retire Trump to the sidelines while building on the coalition that coalesced around him. DeSantis looks like the man who could do that.

An important question that awaits analysis is the degree to which the “parents rights” movement in public schools remains a potent political force. This is the movement that vaulted Governor Glenn Youngkin to national prominence. The culture wars playing out in Virginia schools did not appear to have much impact on the congressional elections — school board policy is, after all, a localized affair. But high-profile school board races in Northern Virginia and Virginia Beach did take place yesterday. I’ll report back on those results as details come in.

As the saying goes, politics is downstream from culture. And Democrats control the commanding heights of culture in our society — universities, the media, the museums, Hollywood, the arts, most of K-12 education, and, until Elon Musk took over Twitter, social media. Democrats have hugely disproportionate power to set the national agenda, frame how voters perceive the issues, and control the information they receive. Dems have built a massive apparatus of nonprofit advocacy organizations and perfected the art of lawfare. If conservatives want to resist, they can’t wait until election day to cast their votes. They have to go about the hard work of recapturing the nation’s cultural institutions. Until they do, I think we’ll experience many more disappointments like Nov. 8, 2022.


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186 responses to “Red Ripple”

  1. Virginia Gentleman Avatar
    Virginia Gentleman

    Nice fair post JAB – with inflation and Biden’s popularity rating during a mid term election – this red ripple can be viewed by some as a blue ripple. I will certainly take it. I think the worst is yet to come for the Republican Party unless they rid themselves of the Orange Man. He will not grow the base any further than he has and the candidates that support his nonsense will continue to lose in most parts of the country. DeSantis certainly was a bright spot for Team Red, with the only unknown going forward being how can he divorce himself from Trump without disenfranchising the MAGA crowd.

  2. Super Brain Avatar
    Super Brain

    McNinch ran on CRT and gave up a very safe GOP Chesterfield BOS seat to a standard issue liberal.

  3. Accurate post, but sad. I got to donate and vote for Jen Kiggins. I was glad my congressional district changed from Bobby Scott’s. Trump had great policies, but has too much baggage ( most is bogus). Democratic voters are too susceptible to lies, and are economically stupid. America missed the big opportunity to limit Biden’s damage to America. He makes the world more dangerous: open borders, weakened economy, open unpunished criminal activity, Chinese, N. Korean, Russian, and Iranian activities running wild.

    1. democracy Avatar

      Dude, are you hallucinating on some bad meth? Take your meds. Please.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        we would have been so much better off with Trump! 😉

        and truly funny talking about lies and conspiracy theories that are rampant on the right these days including election deniers!

  4. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    “If that’s the best the GOP can muster in an off-year election, which typically goes against the party that holds the White House, with 8% to 9% inflation, broken borders, raging culture wars, runaway budget deficits, declining stock market, crime in the streets, and all the rest, Republicans have a lot of work to do”

    Hint: Maybe the electorate can see through the Republicans scare tactics… 🤷‍♂️

  5. Teddy007 Avatar

    Does not look good for the Republicans in next years state Senate elections. Maybe the Republicans should focus more on trans restrooms and CRT.

  6. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
    energyNOW_Fan

    Repubs and Dems are both focused on shoving their extreme agendas down our throats. I believe Trump himself felt that the overturn of Roe v. Wade was a bad idea ahead of these elections. CNN exit poll indicated I believe 60% of US voters were angry about Roe v. Wade overturn. Dr OZ said, paraphrasing, abortion decision should be between the woman, her doctor, and local elected officials. Meanwhile Repub unsuccessful pre-occupation on their extreme agenda, results in Dem success in getting their extreme agenda shoved upon the Country. And also explains why Repubs lost in 2020 and effectively lost here in 2022.

    I do think sympathy vote might have hurt Oz, that was awkward situation with the health issue of Fetterman.

    1. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Given his clear statements about appointing justices who would, in fact, overturn Roe, what did Trump say was a bad idea about the overturn?

      1. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
        energyNOW_Fan

        We have to go back in 2022 before SCOTUS overturned Roe, but I thought Trump was worried about the negative impact if that was done ahead of midterms.

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          Trump has never been concerned about negative impact as demonstrated by his endorsement of election deniers and avoidance of DeSantis. Continue searching for the citation. Oz suffered from an obvious absence of empathy-politically and personally.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            Correct. Trump has made “big” over the fact that he DID appoint justices that WOULD overturn Roe.

            and as well as a host of other “negative” things. It’s his way of communicating!

            He’s the king of namecalling and his supporters ape him on that right here in BR.

          2. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
            energyNOW_Fan

            Privately, however, Trump has said that overturning Roe would be “bad for Republicans,” according to The New York Times’ Maggie Haberman and Michael C. Bender.

          3. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Not out loud!! He’s never been good at the quarterback position in post game thinking. Did he say the overturn was bad after it was overturned? It doesn’t really matter.

          4. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
            energyNOW_Fan

            Youngkin also seems to realize what Trump is saying “privately” is true

          5. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Horse whisperers. If Trump said it privately, was Youngthing privy to the statement? Before he was elected? C’mon, think about it.

  7. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
    energyNOW_Fan

    Repubs and Dems are both focused on shoving their extreme agendas down our throats. I believe Trump himself felt that the overturn of Roe v. Wade was a bad idea ahead of these elections. CNN exit poll indicated I believe 60% of US voters were angry about Roe v. Wade overturn. Dr OZ said, paraphrasing, abortion decision should be between the woman, her doctor, and local elected officials. Meanwhile Repub unsuccessful pre-occupation on their extreme agenda, results in Dem success in getting their extreme agenda shoved upon the Country. And also explains why Repubs lost in 2020 and effectively lost here in 2022.

    I do think sympathy vote might have hurt Oz, that was awkward situation with the health issue of Fetterman.

  8. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    In 11 CDs, Dems outpolled the opposition statewide. This is an opportunity to eliminate the inefficient state senate while voting for all 11 on a statewide basis at large.

  9. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    but still… IT’S A MANDATE!

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      yep, KNEW that was coming… Get ready for the GOP to make idiots of themselves…

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Action items:
        1) Declare January 6 a National Holiday,
        2) Mandatory 10-month prison sentence for rape and incest… victims,
        3) rollback that 2/5 of a person,
        4) ban the sale of Saran wrap and similar products,
        5) simultaneous possession of Coke and aspirin is a felony,
        6) Repeal and think about Replace,
        7) Ankle monitors for all pregnant persons (just in case),

        Oh Boy! This is gonna be fun…

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          They’re gonna vote and vote and vote on an endless list of whacko stuff that has no chance of getting through the Senate and signed by the POTUS.

    2. Lefty665 Avatar

      Gotta be careful with projection. Only Dems are so foolish as to confuse a slim majority with a mandate. But never fear, the Repubs have plenty of delusions of their own.

      1. Matt Adams Avatar
        Matt Adams

        Anyone who thinks a slim majority is a mandate vs a sign you should come together and find common ground is a fool, for certain.

        I can’t wait to hear the leaked tapes of Spanberger chastising her colleagues for taken positions that could get her on the losing end of an election (showing you the only thing she cares about is being elected).

        1. Lefty665 Avatar

          I’ve still got major reservations about people from the covert side of CIA serving in elected office. We’ve got no way of knowing what they have done in their lives. I’d have been happy if she’d been turned out.

          1. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            I do as well, but the thing with the CIA is. Lots of people claim they worked for them and did x, y, z and you’ll never know because the CIA isn’t going to tell you if they are lying.

          2. Lefty665 Avatar

            Or if what CIA will reveal is a made up cover story. Either way we’re in the dark.

            Was Spanberger allowed to resign because she was incompetent or because she did crimes against humanity?

            Spooks I knew were lifers, they were in the business to serve their country, not for a short hit career boost for someone who otherwise was going nowhere.

          3. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            That’s my experience as well.

            I think it’s very evident, she only does something when it benefits her and isn’t about service.

  10. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    Just back from observing the Henrico County election canvass. Might be a column in that….To this point, Trump demonstsrated once again that nobody turns out voters like he does. Democrat voters. He foisted some serious loser nominees on various states and got his puss and Big Red Hat on every front page and teevee screen for the final weekend. He is total electoral poison. And he has more destruction ahead, it seems.

    OTOH, by pissing on DiSantis he probably added several points to his margin.

  11. Lefty665 Avatar

    It will be hard to quantify the damage Trump’s high profile over the weekend did to Repub prospects. He is the best GOTV tool the Dems have ever had. Perhaps DeSantis’s strong showing will give them the leverage to get shed of him.

    A larger question is what will the Repubs do with the populists they inherited after the Dems kicked them to the curb long ago? Trump has been their motivator. Can, and will, the Repubs figure out how to retain them, and combine them with increasing Hispanic and Black votes to craft a stable majority? FDR and the Dems figured out how to do it with the New Deal. It gave them substantial majorities for 40+ years.

    Arguably the Dems would have been better off in ’20 if Trump had not inspired Georgia to elect 2 Dem Senators and provide them with marginal control. A split legislature would have forestalled the Dems fantasy that they had a mandate to do their worst. Both they and the country would have been better off.

    The next question is what will the Repubs do with a narrow majority in the house? Organizing it will be an opportunity, and an opportunity to drive hearings as the Dems have demonstrated. However, they will have no more ability than the Dems did in the last two years to actually do more than to make a lot of noise and threaten to do their worst. We’ll see if the Repubs learned anything from the Dems debacle and restrain their less constructive impulses.

    There are some satisfactions. Maloney’s loss after spending better than $50M of the DCCC’s money to get MAGA Repubs nominated is fitting. There are others, both Repub and Dem who won’t be missed either. The House may be a marginally less dysfunctional place after the minor house cleaning.

    There are some opportunities for Congress to work better for the country than it has in the last two years. We will see if any of them transpire, or if we just get more of the SSDD, We can hope, but I’m not holding my breath.

    Where’s a good 3rd party when you need one? It’s almost to late to be building one for ’24. But, if no one starts we’ll never get there. I’ve still got a Ross Perot bumper sticker on a guitar case.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      All bills for raising revenue, including reconciliation bills, must originate in the House.

    2. DJRippert Avatar

      What happens to Manchin? The rube from West Virginia had the lack of sense to trust the Dems. He got rolled. Now he’s roaring at Biden. That may be a Senate seat the Republicans gain without an election.

      https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/05/politics/joe-manchin-joe-biden-coal-plants

      The real war in today’s politics isn’t between Trump and his acolytes and the rest of the Republican Party. It’s between the socialist arm of the Democratic Party and the rest of the party.

      1. Lefty665 Avatar

        Could be, but he’s resisted McConnell’s blandishments so far. Seems likely he’ll recover enough standing in WVA to last his political lifetime.

        1. DJRippert Avatar

          He’ll last … but maybe not as a Democrat and certainly not as a faithful Democrat.

          1. Lefty665 Avatar

            “Faithful” was not one of the adjectives I heard Dems use to describe him over the last couple of years. A few of them were printable.

      2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
        James C. Sherlock

        Trump is an egomaniac. He will only leave the scene in a coffin.

        A Democrat all of his life, he does not give a damn about the Republican Party.

        Indeed, the Democrats can’t lose if he gets the nomination again. He turns them out better than FDR.

        1. Lefty665 Avatar

          Do you maybe mean Manchin, not Trump?

      3. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
        energyNOW_Fan

        Manchin and WV got thrown under the bus. He was probably willing to endorse Dems hate of Big Oil and mandate Made-in-America EV’s, but he thought he could keep nat gas pipe for power gen in WVa. Hey someone has to make electrons for all those EV’s.

      4. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
        energyNOW_Fan

        Manchin and WV got thrown under the bus. He was probably willing to endorse Dems hate of Big Oil and mandate Made-in-America EV’s, but he thought he could keep nat gas pipe for power gen in WVa. Hey someone has to make electrons for all those EV’s.

    3. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Very fair assessment. IMO, the largely re-elected Freedom Caucus (minus Boebert) will continue its cultish behavior to the detriment of the nation’s interests. The Senate could have benefitted from the presence of McMullin in place of Lee. Both parties need to control themselves in a possible race to the bottom in 2024.

  12. I think it shows that the polarization is well and truly established. Each side presented its case and its candidates and each side’s people voted accordingly. Strategies had nothing to do with it.

    Mind you as a libertarian I am content to see the Federal Government paralyzed.

    1. DJRippert Avatar

      Paralyzation of the federal government would be welcome. Let’s hope that the Republicans end up with enough sway to accomplish that.

      1. Lefty665 Avatar

        I don’t wish for paralyzation but I do hope divided government keeps any of them from doing their worst.

        1. DJRippert Avatar

          I’d like to see future Infrastructure Bills, Inflation Reduction Acts and student loan forgivenesses die of paralysis.

          1. Lefty665 Avatar

            There’s some public good in repairing bridges, modernizing airports and putting broadband where it’s uneconomical to profitably provide it.

            I saved and paid for my kids college and resent paying for affluent people who chose not to.

            But, despite what Demented Joe claimed, loan forgiveness was done by executive order, not an act of Congress. Congressional paralysis would not have done a thing to stop that.

  13. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
    f/k/a_tmtfairfax

    Maybe, with some effort on both sides of the aisle, Congress can pass the “Restore Roe” bill that Senator Kaine and others are proposing in the Senate. Time to codify basic access to abortion nationally and move on to the economy.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      That’s all the GOP ever had to do from the jump! But their religious /pro life base ain’t going to go for that. It’s their way or the highway.

    2. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
      energyNOW_Fan

      Republicans will pass “Restore Roe” bill the same day Democrats pass the “We now realize Climate Change has been Over-hyped” bill. It may happen some day, but us Baby Boomers will be dead, because we will like divisiveness, and will not allow those bills to pass.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        Not just Dems – countries around the world, scientists around the world.

        The GOP is the outsider on this. Most of the rest of the world accepts the reality of climate change and that includes our own NASA, NOAA and DOD!

    3. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
      energyNOW_Fan

      Republicans will pass “Restore Roe” bill the same day Democrats pass the “We now realize Climate Change has been Over-hyped” bill. It may happen some day, but us Baby Boomers will be dead, because we will like divisiveness, and will not allow those bills to pass.

    4. Matt Adams Avatar
      Matt Adams

      Michigan codified it using the proper method, just yesterday.

  14. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    Fasten seat belts for Trump vs DeSantis. NYTimes today quotes the President in exile:
    “If he did run, I will tell you things about him that won’t be very flattering. I know more about him than anybody other than perhaps his wife, who is really running his campaign.”

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      THe idea that Trump is going to slink off into the dark is laughable… probably uber wishful thinking ….

      Anyone want to bet that Trump used DOJ resources to get “dirt “on potential rivals?

    2. He’s the gift that keeps on giving – to the democrats.

    3. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Best thing that could happen to the GOP is an indictment. Keepin’ him above the law is keep the Republicans under the water.

    4. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Best thing that could happen to the GOP is an indictment. Keepin’ him above the law is keep the Republicans under the water.

  15. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    JERUSALEM (AP) — Israeli archaeologists have found an ancient comb dating back some 3,700 years ago and bearing what is likely the oldest known full sentence in Canaanite alphabetical script, according to an article published Wednesday.

    The inscription encourages people to comb their hair and beards to rid themselves of lice. The sentence contains 17 letters that read: “May this tusk root out the lice of the hair and the beard.”

    1. Lefty665 Avatar

      Who’da guessed it, marketers were around that long ago?

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Sloganeering – the oldest branch of engineering.

        Perfected with PowerPoint

    2. Did the discussions about Donald Trump make you think of head lice?

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Trump makes me think more of body crabs.
        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eHFrjHJBx8U

        1. All three are irritating, make most people uncomfortable, and are hard to get rid of…

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Ripple ripples your mind!

      “Ah, a 79! A good price.”
      “The screwoff cap has a delicate bouquet…”

      1. Lefty665 Avatar

        Was November a good year?

  16. StarboardLift Avatar
    StarboardLift

    Don’t have time to read all 122 pearls of wisdom but is anyone calling this a great opportunity for the GOP to reform itself? A move toward the center (fiscal conservatism, social liberalism, away from Trump and evangelicals) would yield them 2 branches of government in 2024. Cinchy.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      re: ” (fiscal conservatism, social liberalism”

      used to be the GOP … a few years back, Cheney, et, et all. No more.

      but the claim is that the Dems “moved left” not that the GOP moved hard right and abandoned folks like Cheney. The GOP today is MAGA , the only argument is what flavor, Trump or DeSantis and Maga-lite Youngkin.

      truth!

      1. StarboardLift Avatar
        StarboardLift

        The status quo just failed the GOP. Rebranding moment. Same advice would serve the Dems: move toward the center.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          Dems approach to Roe – leave it alone.

          GOP approach – “Nope, ban it”.

          middle?

          1. StarboardLift Avatar
            StarboardLift

            Going forward, Larry, going forward.

    2. Lefty665 Avatar

      If you skip McCarthy’s you’ll be down close to to 20%. The number to read will be more manageable and you’ll have missed no actual content.

      1. Matt Adams Avatar
        Matt Adams

        The amount of spam that comes out of his supercilious mouth is astounding.

  17. M. Purdy Avatar

    I think this blog and the people it has unleashed should continue with what they are doing. It’s really been helping my side in a terrific way!

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      well Conservatives these days are sort of like a “hive”. BR just really reflects what ever “thinking” is currently making the rounds.

      For instance, note how the parents in charge and school thing jumped from Virginia to the national GOP.

      Ditto for COVID , masking, in-person schools, etc.

      Ditto for climate change.

      pretty much across the GOP spectrum.

      Beyond that there is the hard, hard right in the GOP that threatens the mainstream GOP.

      Gonna see this with Kevin McCarthy trying to become leader.

    2. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Terrible being the operative word. Oh wait. You said “terrific”.

  18. DJRippert Avatar

    I see the election as a mixed bag. The best case was for stagnation in DC as the GOP took the House and Senate while Democrats kept the White House. I think that stagnation may still happen. Preventing any more Infrastructure Bills (that were about 30% at most concerned with infrastructure), Inflation Reduction Acts (which will not reduce inflation at all) and Student Loan Forgiveness idiocies was about the best that could have been hoped for.

    Meanwhile, Trump is crippled. That is a huge gain for the Republicans. DeSantis is strengthened. Another huge gain for the Republicans.

    Over the next two years, two things will happen. First, Biden will continue to exhibit evermore diminished mental capacity. Once somebody is on that downward slope it never reverses. That could certainlyt get messy if Biden continues to insist that he will run again. The Dems will be forced to find a replacement for Biden in 2024. Second, the economy will fall into full recession. The impact of third quarter results is already being felt. Meta and Twitter laying off tens of thousands may not be a surprise but Salesforce laying off hundreds is a sign of the times. What has started in tech will soon spread elsewhere.

    Weariness with the Democrats’ botching of the economy will only increase. One bellwether will be the Virginia state elections next year. I wouldn’t want to be a Democratic candidate running in a competitive district in 2023 in the midst of a full blown recession.

    1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      “Once somebody is on that downward slope it never reverses. That could certainlyt get messy…”

      Was that intentional irony…??

      1. DJRippert Avatar

        I’m not running for president!

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          Whew!!! PTL

          1. DJRippert Avatar

            I may, however, run for governor in 2025.

          2. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Does the SPCA have a governor?

          3. DJRippert Avatar

            Who let the dogs out?

          4. democracy Avatar

            Ahahahahahahaaa….

          5. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Bring it on!!! Consider deleting some of your more extreme posts on BR.

          6. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Tough choices. DeSanctimonious, DeTrump, or DeJay? If DeSilentBob was his running mate…

          7. LarrytheG Avatar

            getting my popcorn supply in order…..

      2. LarrytheG Avatar

        It’s wishful thinking. It’s like there is only Biden and no administration… Remember Reagan?

        Conservatives better focus on what is going to happen to Trump and DeSantis. Anyone who thinks Trump goes quietly into the night has more cognizance issues than “Brandon”!

        1. DJRippert Avatar

          Trump won’t have a choice. DeSantis already showed the great foresight to disown him.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            You clearly don’t understand real Trumpsters… Ya’ll have a big problem.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            This is RICH! The Trumpsters are going to run away from Trump and latch on to DeSantis.

            Stay tuned , this is going to be a fun ride!

          3. DJRippert Avatar

            And the libs will push Biden in 2024? Dear Lord, Larry … that will be a remake of Weekend at Bernie’s.

          4. LarrytheG Avatar

            The libs don’t have to do anything until the Trump DeSantis thing is over and then , UNLIKE the GOP, they will do the right thing with regard to Biden. Biden will do the right thing precisely because he’s NOT like the GOP folks who deny elections.

          5. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            What is the adage about last words?? Maybe when Dinesh D’Souza’s 2,000 miles trample the palace of the President in exile in MaL, foresight can be credited.

    2. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Expect governance in a GOP majority to be fully absorbed by selecting a Speaker, firefights in the Freedom Caucus, and attempts to impeach Biden while angering voters with cuts to SS and Medicare/aid and abandoning Ukraine. Welcome to governing while preparing for 2024.

      1. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
        energyNOW_Fan

        SS will be tricky. Dems will frame failure to double payments into SS, as a severe reduction. Big increase$ to SS money input needed to hold benefits constant, due to low birth rates. Repubs should probably back off until 2034. But yes if Repubs cannot resist temptation to reduce SS, they will be shooting themselves in the foot as per abortion issue.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          SS is totally funded 100% from FICA taxes.

          Like any annuity, it has to be re-adjusted as demographics change. ALL annuities make these changes the difference being that SS requires literally an act of Congress to do.

          Basically, we are living longer. When SS was first started, life expectancy was 61 for men.

          In addition, we have more retirees and less workers paying into it – in part because of our really dumb policies on immigration.

          Changing SS to respond to increased life expectancy is not “cutting” it any more than what happens to any annuity over time for the same reasons.

          But even if nothing is done at all, benefits will still pay out at about 75% which may be what folks end up with if the GOP really wants to end SS (like they have said before) rather than adjust it to current demographics – which we have done before without gridlock.

          1. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
            energyNOW_Fan

            The demographic change is huge: families now having less than 2 kids, when SS was designed for 3 kids per family. This is the whole 2034 issue. Democrat solution is raise taxes substantially as needed, but find a way to avoid explaining this clearly. There is a valid question, given the new demographic reality, if SS needs to be updated to reduce payouts in 2034.

            As I was self-employed consultant in retirement, I agree lower incomes (<$125k) get plastered with high % SS payments. It does seem like this is a little unfair and could be improved by FICA taxing a wider range of incomes, instead if just the lower income folks paying the whole burden.

          2. “The demographic change is huge: families now having less than 2 kids, when SS was designed for 3 kids per family. This is the whole 2034 issue. Democrat solution is raise taxes substantially as needed, but find a way to avoid explaining this clearly. There is a valid
            question, given the new demographic reality, if SS needs to be updated to reduce payouts in 2034.”

            Please read my response to you above.

            Short version, NO you are wrong on both counts. The solution is neither to raise taxes or reduce payouts. The solution is to cover 90% of wages at current FICA rates as designed rather than the roughly 80% it has declined to. Collected on 90% of wages SS is solvent for the foreseeable future.

        2. Lefty665 Avatar

          Greenspan’s SS fix depended on 90% of wages being covered by withholding. FICA limits have not kept up with money floating to the top, so now FICA covers only about 80% of wages.

          The fix is simple, increase the wages that are subject to tax to 90%.

          Take the money from the rich by taxing more of their income. Why should a fat cat with exempt wages have a lower effective SS tax rate than an average worker? Make the neo liberal elites pay!

          1. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
            energyNOW_Fan

            I do not know anything about Greenspan’s proposed SS fixes. Everything I know about SS I learned from Social Security’s head actuary. In a presentation, he laid out the 2034 problem clearly, and gave both sides of how the problem might be solved. I would like to hear an update.

          2. Go back and look. It is really pretty simple.

            Greenspan chaired a commission whose job was to fix SS. They did exactly that by dramatically increasing FICA rates that both solved the then current SS crisis and prepaid future boomer benefits. The caveat was that to make the numbers work the then current 90% of wages that were subject to FICA taxes needed to be maintained.

            Subsequently most income increases went to the very top earners and the index on FICA caps did not keep pace. The percentage of FICA taxed wages has steadily fallen until now we are taxing around 80% of wages. The accumulated surplus is being spent as more boomers retire and projected collections at current percent coverage will only pay for around 2/3 of scheduled benefits in the foreseeable future.

            Insult to injury is that with rising interest rates as SS cashes the special low interest T bills it has invested the surplus in the Treasury has to pay for them by issuing more expensive higher interest securities.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenspan_Commission

        3. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          And Ukraine and election integrity and debt ceiling and……

          1. Oh goody, another Jim McCarthy silly trivial walk. Congrats.

      2. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
        energyNOW_Fan

        SS will be tricky. Dems will frame failure to double payments into SS, as a severe reduction. Big increase$ to SS money input needed to hold benefits constant, due to low birth rates. Repubs should probably back off until 2034. But yes if Repubs cannot resist temptation to reduce SS, they will be shooting themselves in the foot as per abortion issue.

      3. DJRippert Avatar

        Abandoning Ukraine is a joke. It was Biden who decided not to commit US troops. Was that abandonment? It was Biden who decided not to enforce a no-fly zone at the request of Ukraine. Was that abandonment? It was Biden who refused to sell new US warplanes to NATO countries so that those countries could donate their Soviet warplanes to Ukraine. Was that abandonment? It was Biden who refuses to allow US supplied weapons to be fired into Russian territory by the Ukrainians. Was that abandonment?

        Now, a few Republicans are asking what the limits of aid to Ukraine should be (during a recession brought on by Bideflation) and the left talks of abandonment.

        Rubbish.

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          Ukraine ain’t laughing with Kevin and company. Y’all think it a good idea to urge Ukraine to fire into Russian territory? PTL you are not on NSA. Repugs when isolation was popular and FDR wanted to intercede in WWII, your side was prepared to stand by and stand down. Don’t lecture about abandonment while out over your skis.

          1. DJRippert Avatar

            You don’t think that firing into Russian territory to disrupt their troop and supply buildup just over the border is warranted? I’m glad that you’re not in the Pentagon.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            I’m glad the GOP is not in charge… for sure…

          3. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            I think the strategic decision to hold fire into Russian territory involves military and diplomatic strategy beyond macho BS from the likes of us. All are happy you are not in charge. Jeez, what will you propose as governor?

          4. DJRippert Avatar

            It’s a decision regarding how far to go in helping Ukraine. You know, like the same decisions being discussed by Republicans. The difference is that when liberals make decisions limiting support they are not suddenly abandoning Ukraine. At least, not in the minds of other liberals.

          5. LarrytheG Avatar

            You’re obviously not paying attention to what some GOP on the isolationist flank are saying about Ukraine!

          6. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Let’s see how skilled diplomacy operates. GOP leaders publicly question “how far to go” in Ukraine with respect to military aid. Good thing that nation is far away and English is not the first language. Yeah, says GOP, we will continue some aid but not what you need or want because US can’t afford it. We can afford abandoning NATO. How’s that work?

          7. DJRippert Avatar

            Where was the aid in 2014 from O’Dumbo when the Russian initially invaded?

          8. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            He doesn’t remember the follies of his own party, he’s good like that.

          9. democracy Avatar

            Obama has forgotten way more than you can ever aspire to know.

          10. democracy Avatar

            You either…dear god,

        2. LarrytheG Avatar

          Are you not listening to the GOP folks?

          Watch the next GOP vote for more weapons to Ukraine.

          1. DJRippert Avatar

            I know you tax and spend liberals see no limit to the amount the US can spend (on pretty much anything). Hell, just print more money. Inflation? What’s that?

            Ukraine is not a NATO country. Putin’s military also intervened ferociously in Syria, backing a murderous regime. That war unleashed a level of mass death, suffering, destruction and displacement not yet seen in Ukraine — but the Democrats’ response was far less empathetic. I guess brown people aren’t as worthy of American support as blue eyed Europeans.

            Where were the demands to support the Syrians?

            Meanwhile, back in 2014, Russia invaded Crimea and other parts of Ukraine. Where were the Democrats insisting that Obama take action then?

            Questioning the level and duration of support for Ukraine is a very reasonable act.

          2. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            The US Government’s interjection into Syria was less about the people and more about toppling the regime.

            We armed Al-Nursa for f’s sake.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar

            yep, that’s what I thought. Why not say that from the get go?

          4. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
            energyNOW_Fan

            Obama told Romney the Russians were good guys.

          5. LarrytheG Avatar

            No, he said they were not as big a threat as others… but he was indeed wrong.

            No warm comfort from some of the GOP – they’d abandon Ukraine in a heartbeat.

          6. democracy Avatar

            Are you really this obtuse naturally, or do you work at it?

            Guess how much of the national debt has been caused by Republicans?

          7. Matt Adams Avatar

            You’re not very good at this:

            D $39,027,700,000,000.00
            R $36,340,200,000,000.00

            First President being measured Wilson and Last being Biden

          8. democracy Avatar

            You’re not so hot either, unless you count lies as “truth.”

          9. Matt Adams Avatar

            “democracy 11 minutes ago
            You’re not so hot either, unless you count lies as “truth.””

            What “lies” are you referring to?

            My data is source able and accurate.

            https://www.thebalancemoney.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296

            So instead of admitting you were wrong, you’re attacking me. You’re a troll and a clown.

          10. democracy Avatar

            Mr. Matt Clown Man,

            Your link to The Balance pegs the national debt at $31 trillion.

            Yet you come up with more than $75 trillion. Did you have trouble with math in school?

            Lying can de defined as deliberately “making a statement” that is false with the explicit “intention of getting another to accept it as true”

            Which is what you have done.

            You presumably added in Social Security and Medicare (etc) obligations to get to a “total” or “gross” debt. But that ain’t kosher, bro.

            But, as the Congressional Budget Office pointed out,

            “Gross debt is not a good indicator of the government’s fiscal condition. The value of Treasury securities held by trust funds and other government accounts measures only some of the commitments the government has made for the future, and it includes some amounts that may not represent future obligations at all.”

            When you purposefully twist snd distort, that’s lying, bro.

          11. Matt Adams Avatar

            Clearly you don’t know how the national debt works.

            It was the summation of national debt per POTUS, per the link you were provided and don’t understand.

            Nice moving that goalposts bud.

            Your insults are the flailing of a very uneducated poster, who has an inferiority complex.

            I didn’t distort anything, I summed what was provided and proved, yet again you don’t know what you’re talking about.

          12. democracy Avatar

            Seriously, Mr, Clown Man, you have some issues. The national debt per the link you cited is $31 trillion. Now, how was that obtained. Let’s take a closer look.

            When Ronald Reagan was elected, the national debt– obtained over about 200 years — was less than $1 trillion.

            Ronald Reagan started off the supply-side tax cut mania in 1981, and budget deficits- and debt – started rising immediately. Reagan infamously promised in the 1980 election that he could cut taxes by $750 billion, spend an extra $1 trillion on defense, and balance the federal budget…but it never worked out that way. (psst…if you were of voting age then, did you vote for Reagan…twice?)

            After 12 years of Reagan-Bush1 and supply-side policies, deficits averaged better than $200 billion a year and the national debt more than quadrupled. The U.S., which had been the world’s biggest creditor nation, was turned into its biggest debtor. The dollar rose in value due to all the borrowing, exports plummeted, imports rose, and trade deficits swelled. There was a net flow of money OUT of the country. The decline of the American standard of living had begun. (Side note 1: Republicans rejoiced.)
            (side note 2: in the latest iteration of meddling in state education standards, Glenn Youngkin has prefaced the stolen rewrite of history and social science standards with, guess who? Yeah, Reagan.)

            The big experiment with supply-side economic policies proved to be an abysmal bust for the nation. Although to be fair one thing worked well; a major tenet of supply-side economics is to “proliferate the rich,” and indeed, the rich got fabulously richer. Meanwhile, the poor got poorer, and the middle class got squeezed.

            When Bill Clinton entered office he tried to correct the supply-side insanity (even Alan Greenspan agreed the deficits were a monumental problem). In 1993 Clinton proposed raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans to 39.5 percent. This, of course, was anathema to conservative supply-siders. They claimed it would destroy jobs and ruin the economy. The tax increase passed Congress without a single Republican vote. Not one. (Side note 3: Clinton also reduced some government spending and the size of the bureaucracy.). The U.S. embarked on a sustained period of economic growth with more than 22 million jobs created. The federal budget was balanced (multiple times) and surpluses generated, which might have been used both to pay down the debt AND to preserve social programs. Did conservatives not learn anything from this?

            Why no, no they didn’t. (Side note 4: except maybe to lie even more.)

            Then came a stolen election in 2000, and Bush2. Terrorist threats were ignored. The focus was more supply-side tax-cutting, geared to corporations and the rich. Big deficits ensued. Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were not funded, and debt mounted, and was passed on to Obama. Laissez-faire prevailed. The national debt more than doubled; the economy was broken.’ Millions of jobs were lost. Bush2 passed on a final budget an extra $1.4 trillion in deficit. (pssst…did you vote for Bush2…twice?)

            Yet, conservatives demanded MORE of what seriously hurt the nation, and with Trump in office — aided with LOTS of help from Russian intelligence agencies — they got it. The Trump tax cuts added LOTS more debt, with Trump adding about $8 trillion to the national debt and passing on to Joe Biden a broken economy. (psst…did you vote for the Traitor…twice?).

            Try to keep changing the subject, Mr. Clown Man, but it’s clear who caused the bulk of the nation’s debt.

          13. Matt Adams Avatar

            A day late and a dollar short.

            Long on insults, short on facts.

            These two statements adequately describe all of your comments.

            I gave you the numbers and the source, you can dispute them all you’d like. You’re parroting talking points.

            The only person trying to change the subject, is yourself. You made a statement that you sure you knew the answer too, you didn’t and now you’re engaging in ad hom attacks like the child you are.

            Also, the litany of talking points you just parroted is epic, but it’s also wrong.

            Deficits =/= National Debt.

          14. democracy Avatar

            Mr. Clown Man, the original questionsposed was this:

            “Guess how much of the national debt has been caused by Republicans?”

            The answer — as the FACTS make clear — is that most of the debt is traceable directly to Republicans and Republican policies, like supply side economics.

            Why is it that you hate facts so much?

            You must be a Republican.

            Did you also support Trump?

          15. Matt Adams Avatar

            “democracy 34 minutes ago
            Mr. Clown Man, the original questionsposed was this:

            “Guess how much of the national debt has been caused by Republicans?”

            The answer — as the FACTS make clear — is that most of the debt is traceable directly to Republicans and Republican policies, like supply side economics.

            Why is it that you hate facts so much?

            You must be a Republican.

            Did you also support Trump?”

            False, the numbers don’t lie.

            I don’t hate facts, I enjoy them. They just seem to be inconvenient to you.

            I’m not.

            What does Trump have to do with this? Beyond that nope.

          16. democracy Avatar

            Dear god, bro. Let’s see.

            The US Treasury says the national debt is $31 trillion.

            https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/datasets/debt-to-the-penny/debt-to-the-penny

            The Peter Peterson Institute says the national debt is $31 trillion.

            https://www.pgpf.org/national-debt-clock

            In October of this year, the NY Times reported that “America’s gross national debt exceeded $31 trillion for the first time on Tuesday…”

            https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/04/business/national-debt.html

            Investopedia reported in October of this year that “The national debt of the United States is what the federal government owes creditors—including debt held by the public and federal government trust funds. U.S. national debt totaled $31.1 trillion as of October 2022…”

            https://www.investopedia.com/updates/usa-national-debt/

            And then there’s YOU.

          17. Matt Adams Avatar

            Clearly you’re not very good at numbers. Yes, ND is cumulative, but it has been paid down over the years.

            It even tells you it’s $31 Trillion in the article you were cited.

          18. Matt Adams Avatar

            Clearly you’re not very good at numbers. Yes, ND is cumulative, but it has been paid down over the years.

            It even tells you it’s $31 Trillion in the article you were cited.

        3. Matt Adams Avatar
          Matt Adams

          There are US advisors on the ground in Ukraine. Beyond that the warhawks appear to be all too happy to bring us to the precipice of nuclear war.

          It’ll be another Vietnam.

          1. DJRippert Avatar

            Funny how you don’t hear much in the press about those US Advisors in Ukraine.

            It will be another Vietnam. Complete with the idiotic idea that the enemy can operate with impunity just over the border in Russia or Belarus. Typical Kennedy / Johnson thinking … send in the US troops with their hands tied behind their backs.

          2. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            That’s because the Pentagon just admitted they were there 8 days ago.

            Kennedy had the right thinking and MACV-SOG fought the winnable war. We however abandoned those indigenous people who were fighting with us when big Army couldn’t win theirs.

          3. DJRippert Avatar

            Escalation of war is the Democratic way.

          4. democracy Avatar

            Hmmm…

            Nixon and Vietnam…

            W Bush and Afghanistan and Iraq….

            You don’t know much about US history, do you?

          5. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Nixon didn’t invade Vietnam there bub, that was Johnson.

            Perhaps before commenting about others history knowledge, you should study yourself.

          6. democracy Avatar

            Nixon EXPANDED the war, bub, especially the bombing.

            Perhaps you should try some reading before you spout off.

          7. Matt Adams Avatar

            “democracy 8 minutes ago
            Nixon EXPANDED the war, bub, especially the bombing.

            Perhaps you should try some reading before you spout off.”

            Umm no, not even remotely close to being factual

            I have read history (you clearly haven’t).

            Nixon began the draw down and “Vietnamization” starting in 1969, the year he was elected.

          8. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            It’s the Pentagon’s way, however neither party has members who posses the intestinal fortitude to stop them (that and the insider trading they are benefitting from it was well).

          9. Lefty665 Avatar

            That’s the scary part. It’s the politicians who have to pull us back from the brink. Lotsa luck with that, but we can hope.

        4. democracy Avatar

          Please….take your meds.

      4. Super Brain Avatar
        Super Brain

        No way anyone in GOP cuts entitlements for the 65+ crowd.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          What SOME of the GOP are advocating is for more means testing of the Part B premiums.

          “cuts” to SS make no sense, since it is fully funded by FICA taxes, not a penny of general fund.

          1. Super Brain Avatar
            Super Brain

            All they do is add more goodies like the Medicare advantage plan.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            Medicare Advantage is managed care and supposedly actually cheaper than original Medicare.

            And if premiums are increased for means-tested, it will have the effect of encouraging more to switch to Advantage.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar

            Medicare Advantage is private sector insurance that can change premiums and coverage… and does…
            and once you switch, you may not be able to go back to original Medicare.

            The GOP supports this concept as a way to “save” Medicare.

        2. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
          energyNOW_Fan

          “Taxes” for SS need to be sharply increased by 2034 due to low birth rates. Dems will not tolerate any reduction in benefits in 2034, thus Dems will demand huge increases in SS taxes. I do not see Repubs going along willingly, although they can try defer until 2034. Talk of SS benefit reduction before 2034 is political suicide, I would think.

        3. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          Y’all don’t believe what they say???

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            well… the older folks, especially the gullible ones that “believe” the GOP are their base…

        4. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
          energyNOW_Fan

          “Taxes” for SS need to be sharply increased by 2034 due to low birth rates. Dems will not tolerate any reduction in benefits in 2034, thus Dems will be demanding huge increases in SS taxes, which they will say is the correct way to handle it. I do not see Repubs going along willingly, although they can try defer until 2034. Talk of SS benefit reduction before 2034 is political suicide, I would think.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            increase in FICA AND increase in retirement age and stricter payout rules and lower COLAs , etc.

            It will take compromises and these days the GOP is pretty much an all or nothing party – just look at immigration. They cannot agree even among the GOP itself what to do about immigration nor other things like SS!

            Not the Dems… they’re pretty much always ready to deal.

            Pushing this downstream to 2034 would be DUMB IMO.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            increase in FICA AND increase in retirement age and stricter payout rules and lower COLAs , etc.

            It will take compromises and these days the GOP is pretty much an all or nothing party – just look at immigration. They cannot agree even among the GOP itself what to do about immigration nor other things like SS!

            Not the Dems… they’re pretty much always ready to deal.

            Pushing this downstream to 2034 would be DUMB IMO.

          3. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Rs seem to be listening to the MASH theme, Suicide is painless, it brings on many changes….

          4. Lefty665 Avatar

            See my response to you on SS above. The short version is that SS is solvent with FICA covering 90% of wages. It currently covers about 80%. FICA tax rates don’t need to increase, just the percentage of income that is taxed.

            Take it from the neo liberal elites who are now taxed at lower rates than working people and everything is hunky dory.

          5. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
            energyNOW_Fan

            Exactly: we have to find a way to significantly increase payments into SS, or hold payments constant and reduce benefits paid out. Repubs will probably push for the latter approach, is why there is a big SS fight coming.

          6. FICA taxes covering 90% of wages fixes SS without increases in tax rates or reduced benefits. It is really simple, but the high income neo liberal elite wage earners who are largely running things don’t like that so neither party will embrace it.

    3. LarrytheG Avatar

      Even after the reality of the elections, LA LA Land continues…. lord… it’s like a disease!

    4. democracy Avatar

      DJ….are you really this clueless? Yes. Yes, you are.

  19. LesGabriel Avatar
    LesGabriel

    What the GOP needs to do, in Virginia and elsewhere, is to do a hard-nosed after-action analysis of what went right and what went wrong, looking not at who to blame but rather with an honest “lessons-learned” approach. Every candidate, whether they won or lost, should have an input. I think they would find that 1) The GOP had candidates in a record number of Districts–filling all but about a half-dozen slots before the “Top-twp” California primaries removed another half-dozen, 2) the 237 non-incumbent Republicans running were by and large serious and hard-working people, and 3) many of them, despite their many accomplishments and experience, lacked the knowledge and money to put together strong campaign teams early enough to compete against well-funded opponents with better name-recognition. Although state Parties are wise to stay out of nomination contests, they should have better plans to help get campaigns up and running once a nominee is decided upon. If there are any states that do this well, the rest should learn from them. I doubt that this has been a focus of the RNC over the years.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      They do that already. It’s called a “primary”.

  20. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    So many people were looking for deliverance. He didn’t come did he? Blood moon lunar eclipse and all. Oh well. Back to the drawing board.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/52b2eb7d7f5a1529813471664cd145fda3079c2c91cbad987c550eb6f4e51cc5.jpg

  21. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    Just back from observing the Henrico County election canvass. Might be a column in that….To this point, Trump demonstsrated once again that nobody turns out voters like he does. Democrat voters. He foisted some serious loser nominees on various states and got his puss and Big Red Hat on every front page and teevee screen for the final weekend. He is total electoral poison. And he has more destruction ahead, it seems.

    OTOH, by pissing on DeSantis at the end he probably added several points to his margin.

    1. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Maybe he’ll listen to you. Call him.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        uh huh.. 😉

        1. Stephen Haner Avatar
          Stephen Haner

          I can’t even get friends I’ve known for years to understand they are in love with a dangerous charlatan.

          1. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Brass tax, he stood up to the mudslinging when typically (R)’s stand down.

          2. DJRippert Avatar

            He’s a charlatan but not a dangerous one. What was it the libtwits said when Trump was elected? He’d wreak the economy and start WWIII. Hmmm …. seems like Biden has done more of that than Trump.

            Trump is done. Stick a fork in him. His 15 minutes of fame are over.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar

            after seeing what he did to hold on after he lost the election -you don’t think he is “dangerous”.

            Jesuz…guy… he was replacing Cabinet heads including the military with his own loyalists…

            I can’t believe you think what you think!

          4. DJRippert Avatar

            What danger has he occasioned? Does he control the military? National law enforcement?

            Your lack of understanding history and what truly dangerous people look like is showing, again.

          5. LarrytheG Avatar

            You ask did he control the military. Tell me who was in charge of the military during Jan 6. Where did he come from?

            Ditto DOJ. He was going to replace the head but hesitated when the leadership said they’d resign.

            He sent people all over the US to claim conspiracy theories and challenge the elections.

            You clearly would stand by and let him do that, it sounds like to me!

            Playing with fire guy!

          6. DJRippert Avatar

            What I remember about Jan 6 is some wacko wearing body paint and a fur hat with horns. Not exactly the 101st Airborne.

            Where was the military on Jan 6? Being stiff armed by the liberal mayor of Washington, DC – now elected to a third term.

            https://www.newsweek.com/dc-mayor-muriel-bowser-thought-she-needed-just-few-hundred-national-guard-unarmed-1661320

          7. LarrytheG Avatar

            Who was in charge of the Pentagon and where did he come from and was he going to do what Trump wanted done?

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f81a63bc876f1a73aec340ba45d2a8f4bf50ce15c2a6386b041a4d97fc9f2ee8.jpg

            https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-likely-tried-impose-martial-law-jan-6-miles-taylor-2022-6

            I cannot believe that either you don’t know this or you do and discount it.

          8. DJRippert Avatar

            If he was trying to incite an insurrection then Muriel Bpwser was his accomplice.

          9. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Try changing political affiliations to communicate.

          10. LarrytheG Avatar

            It’s inexplicable but it’s clearly real.

            I used to think that “kind” of thinking only happened in 3rd world countries

            BOY was I WRONG!

    2. Matt Adams Avatar
      Matt Adams

      “He foisted some serious loser nominees on various states and got his puss and Big Red Hat on every front page and teevee screen for the final weekend”

      To be fair, the Democrats did spend their capital to put forth the weakest opponent (I mean what’s wrong with privately funding someone you’re calling a threat to democracy).

      1. Lefty665 Avatar

        It’s a twofer.

        Maloney of the DCCC lost so there’s some justice in the world.

  22. killerhertz Avatar
    killerhertz

    This state is going to hell in a handbasket due to northern Virginia. It’s only a matter of time. Conservatives need to c0nsolidate into solid rate states in the coming decades and push for secession.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Heard that said in 1977. Sho’ been taking its damned time. Personally, I’m all for giving y’all Texas, but ya gotta take Louisiana, Mississippi, and Arkansas with ya.

      1. killerhertz Avatar
        killerhertz

        I can’t say I wasn’t born. But you boomers had it easy, so the political climate can’t be quite as terrible as it is now. You had a few years of high inflation – big deal.

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