John Littel, Virginia Secretary of Health and Human Resources

by James C. Sherlock

To justify her insistence on keeping schools closed, Randi Weingarten, the president of the American Federation of Teachers, said in February of 2021, “kids are resilient and kids will recover.”

She brought that same message to Virginia.

In one of the strangest choices in Virginia political history, Terry McAuliffe brought Weingarten to Virginia to campaign with him on the last weekend of his losing gubernatorial campaign.

Thus sealing his defeat.

It turns out, as it was always going to, that you can’t keep kids out of school for up to a year and a quarter, homebound, and expect all of them to “recover.”

I will call here those in K-12 during COVID school shutdowns Generation COVID (Gen C).

I wrote the other day of an estimate by a renowned educational economist that the 1.2 million Gen C kids in Virginia public schools would lose several hundred billion dollars in lifetime earnings because of un-repaired damages to their learning of all types.

His critics here argued into the night about study methodology, but none denied costs at some level would be there. They did not offer their own estimates.

John Littel, Virginia’s Secretary of Health and Human Resources, has the job of preparing his agencies for the lifetime social costs of those children.

Secretary Littel has in his portfolio the Department of Behavioral Health and Developmental Services (DBHDS), the Virginia Department of Health (VDH), the Department of Medical Assistance Services (DMAS) (Medicaid), the Virginia Department of Social Services (DSS) and Office for Children’s Services.

He has to assess the short and long term costs of increasing demands for those services by Gen C.  Many in that 12-year public schools cohort, those 1.2 million Virginians, will be in greater need of support after the shutdowns.

Some immediately.

Consider only the current increased demands for behavioral health services, Medicaid and social services support.

The Monitor on Psychology of the American Psychological Association (APA) in September 2017 published a cover story by Kirsten Weir.

It opened:

They call them “the formative years” for a reason. A wealth of research has shown that stress and hardship in childhood—such as that caused by abuse, neglect, exposure to violence and mental illness in caregivers—can alter the brain architecture of a developing child. Those physiological changes, in turn, raise the risk of cognitive and developmental delays, physical health problems such as diabetes and heart disease, and behavioral and mental health problems such as substance abuse and depression.

Later:

To be sure, some resilience factors are drawn from within, involving abilities such as problem solving, self-control, emotion regulation, motivation to succeed and self-efficacy. But external factors are important, too. Some of those influences are related to the attachment system, including having supportive parents or primary caregivers, close relationships with other caring adults and close peer relationships. Still others exist in systems beyond the family, such as effective schools and neighborhoods and the qualities of faith and hope embedded in spiritual and cultural beliefs.

Many of the problems that stem from childhood adversity involve inadequate self-regulation, which has been linked to parents’ behaviors and the home environment. As described in a detailed report from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Office of Planning, Research and Evaluation, children who have experienced maltreatment, harsh parenting and challenges such as poverty and food insecurity show poorer self-regulation in cognitive, emotional and behavioral domains. Yet parental warmth, responsiveness and sensitivity foster the development of self-regulation, and can buffer the effects of other stressors.

You can tell it was only 2017.  She dared write of “faith and hope embedded in spiritual and cultural beliefs.”

The APA’s Ms. Weir went on to discuss better parenting as the highest payoff, followed at some distance by better social-emotional schooling targeted at kids whose homes were to some degree dysfunctional, and assistance by clinical and counseling psychologists.

In 2017 she did not anticipate COVID and its unnecessarily prolonged school shutdowns. They were prolonged with gubernatorial prodding and progressive school board policy in response to demands by such perverse actors as Ms. Weingarten.

Nor did Ms Weir anticipate skyrocketing chronic absenteeism associated with the shutdowns.

So, net of her excellent article and recent experience, the costs of the shutdowns are not limited to Gen C’s own lost earnings.

Action is underway. The Youngkin Administration, led by Secretary Littel, has made a good start in dealing with the tragedies left behind by the shutdowns. The new Behavioral Health Plan and its $230 million in new funding in the Governor’s budget is, just that, a start.

The increased costs of services to those less “resilient” in Gen C for medical and behavioral health, for Medicaid and for social services support, like their lost earnings, will persist to some degree for the rest of their lives.

The criminal justice system will also bear additional costs, but that is not for this discussion.

Secretary Littel has the job of putting a price on the increased costs of Gen C to his big slice of Virginia government and shaping and sizing his agencies to make the services they will need be there and work.

I am privileged to know him well enough to know that he is the right person for the job.

Bottom line. In a just world, the costs borne by Gen C and by those who provide them increased services would be reimbursed by the progressives who demanded them.

As is always true, the biggest costs are borne by those who can least afford them, the poor, and governments who provide services to the poor.

Not coincidentally, the most damaged kids included racial minorities. In any other context, the progressives’ extended school shutdowns would be criticized as structural racism.

OK, I’ll say it: the extended shutdowns were racist in their effects.

Progressives, who embrace a government command economy as the future, convened as school boards, made that future much more costly in all possible ways in divisions where they held sway.

But justice will be denied in this case. Indeed their reckless actions will cause to increase what progressives prize most, government spending and control.

They should take a bow, I guess.

But denial is their preferred stance.

The furnace-hot backlash [to an article by Nate Silver in which he urged school re-openings] seemed to be triggered by Silver’s assumption that school closings were not only a mistake — a possibility many progressives have quietly begun to accept — but an error of judgment that was sufficiently consequential and foreseeable that we can’t just shrug it off as a bad dice roll. It was a historic blunder that reveals some deeper flaw in the methods that produced it and which demands corrective action.

By the tail end of spring 2020, it was becoming reasonably clear both that remote education was failing badly and that schools could be reopened safely.

What happened next was truly disturbing: The left by and large rejected this evidence. Progressives were instead carried along by two predominant impulses. One was a zero-COVID policy that refused to weigh the trade-off of any measure that could even plausibly claim to suppress the pandemic. The other was deference to teachers unions, who were organizing to keep schools closed.

Those strands combined into a refusal to acknowledge the scale or importance of losing in-person learning with a moralistic insistence that anybody who disagreed was callous about death or motivated by greed.

The fevered climate of opinion ruled out cost-benefit thinking and instead framed the question as a simple moral binary, with the well-being of public schoolchildren somehow excluded from the calculus.

The ideas that produced the catastrophic school-closing era may have suffered a setback, but its strongest advocates hardly feel chastened. Whether educational achievement can or should be measured at all remains a very live debate within the left.

Most progressives aren’t insisting on refighting the school closing wars. They just want to quietly move on without anybody admitting anybody did anything wrong.

That article was in New York Magazine in January of 2022. It’s motto: “Irregular musings from the center left.” The author was Jonathan Chait, a long-time, well-published public man of the left himself.

Public contrition by progressives would be appreciated, but

  1. It won’t happen, especially here on BR, where we were treated to howls by Virginia progressives when I wrote this week about that estimate of just the costs to future Gen C earnings; and
  2. It will not in any case reduce the bill.

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90 responses to “Preparing for the Costs to Government of Virginia’s Generation COVID”

  1. The evidence is irrefutable: Minorities suffered the most from the school shutdowns. If one employs Ibram Kendi logic — disparities in outcomes between the races reflect racism — then one must accept that the school shutdowns were racist. And that the architects of the prolonged school shutdowns are racist. And the defenders of the prolonged shutdowns are racist.

    1. Not Today Avatar
      Not Today

      The school shutdowns exacerbated existing racist housing, environmental, economic, and healthcare disparities’ impacts on children. Schools are one part of that stew, not the whole dish.

    2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      “Minorities suffered the most from the COVID pandemic…”

      “…the response to the pandemic was racist…”

      Fixed it for you…

    3. walter smith Avatar
      walter smith

      Tongue in cheek. The effect of woke policies leads to outcomes only a white supremacist could love

    4. walter smith Avatar
      walter smith

      Why don’t you cite your evidence?
      I’ll take judicial notice that Dem run cities are hellholes, full of crime and with horrible education systems.
      Tell me even Richmond isn’T doing its best to chase out all sane residents, much less Chicago and Detroit.

  2. walter smith Avatar
    walter smith

    The answer is ultimate school choice. Get the government out of setting the curriculum. Let Loudoun and Fairfax and others be crazy. Let sane ones be sane. Let parents use the money to choose, and you will see a huge rush to explicitly Christian schools. Even by parents who are not Christians.
    We have to remove the power of the teacher unions and empower parents.
    In general, pretty much everything done by progressives has been a failure and the answer is not more money to fix the problems resulting from the progressives’ loser policies. No fault divorce has been a failure. Encouraging and rewarding illegitimacy has been a failure. Sexual “tolerance” has become rabid anti-Christian intolerance, etc. The single best thing we could do to improve education, lower crime, have better outcomes for “the children,” would be to adopt the policies that support the nuclear family. Sorry for the dose of reality.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      My point is that local decisions by woke school boards, in this case, have statewide and nationwide consequences that affect not only these afflicted children. The costs to government will be extraordinary.

      1. Not Today Avatar
        Not Today

        How are you defining woke? Is there a standard/accepted definition? What is your evidence to support ‘woke’ school boards, in particular, had students experience learning loss greater than non-woke boards? Did you conduct a randomized study or can you cite one?

        1. The various dictionaries provide a range of definitions. Here is a good discussion of the various meanings of “woke” as they have evolved over time. https://www.foxnews.com/us/what-does-woke-mean

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Carol, have you read other definitions ?

            And you think this is the best one?

            the article says this:

            ” So in addition to meaning aware and progressive, many people now interpret woke to be a way to describe people who would rather silence their critics than listen to them.”

            This is an “ok” word to use in BR to describe “progressives”?

          2. Not Today Avatar
            Not Today

            Again, WHAT EVIDENCE DO YOU HAVE to support the notion that woke school boards, however you’d define it, produced students with greater learning loss? If you have no data to support the claim, stop making it.

          3. Not Today Avatar
            Not Today

            You conveniently did not answer the following question. What evidence is there to support the claim that woke school boards caused greater harm?

        2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          “What is your evidence to support ‘woke’ school boards, in particular, had students experience learning loss greater than non-woke boards?”

          This weakness in Sherlock’s argument has been pointed out many times. So far, no response.

    2. walter smith Avatar
      walter smith

      Gotta have censorship of things you disagree with, huh?
      Let me make the connection for you – I was pointing out other horrible government policies, like the Covid policies.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        so we can allude to any/all govt policies here and Carol won’t delete them?

  3. And while CDC spent millions to study aging during the pandemic, European govts and agencies studied and determined that lock downs were useless, but harmful to students……. St. Fauci and others twiddled their thumbs….. churches closed, hardware stores closed, gyms closed, but BIG BOX stores and liquor stores remained open.

    1. killerhertz Avatar
      killerhertz

      Don’t forget the beaches. The same police that many conservatives hold in such high esteem were literally pointing ARs at people and arresting them for getting Vitamin D, something that was beneficial to fighting the pandemic.

  4. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    COVID deaths exceeded 1 million and continue to the present albeit at a lower rate. The personnel and financial strains to the nation’s health care institutions was vast. While critiquing the educational damages, the life and death data must be considered. Those who now look back ought to take the moment to stand in the shoes of decision makers regarding “lockdowns” versus an intellectualized notion of personal freedom.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      “Stand in the shoes of the decision makers is the famous “man in the arena” defense. Nothing to see here, right?

      We are simply looking at the box score and planning for the next game.

      We are measuring how the closed minded, dogmatic approach of progressive decision makers has turned into vast individual and societal consequences, the costs of those consequences and how to prepare to deal with them.

      1. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        We, OTOH, are viewing the issues from life-preserving measures which cannot be scored in boxes. Nor, as others point out, wasting words by blaming political opponents. If y’all would have not chosen “lockdowns” and placed lives in danger, say so.

    2. killerhertz Avatar
      killerhertz

      There was no strain on the healthcare system. Where’s your evidence? Twerking nurses on tiktok?

  5. Virginia Gentleman Avatar
    Virginia Gentleman

    Curious how Sec. Littel is planning for the Gen C generation when we have 2 year budget cycles. Won’t he long gone before any financial impacts on our social programs will be developed? I think you drastically overestimate the amount of future planning that our State Government does.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      As you know or should, there are not nearly enough child psychologists or psychiatrists to handle the surge that has already occurred and continues. Sec. Littel manages DBHDS. So that is your answer if you were seeking one.

  6. The increased costs of services to those less “resilient” in gen y for medical and behavioral health, for Medicaid and for social services support, like their lost earnings, will persist to some degree for the rest of their lives.

    I have no doubt this will be the case if we keep telling our children over-and-over again that they are perpetual victims and that there is nothing they can do about it.

    “Hey, kid, you missed the third grade. You’re doomed to a life of substandard knowledge and skills. You will be sickly and mentally ill. You will end up stuck in a dead-end job, you will never reach your full potential, and you will require some form of government assistance for the rest of your life”.

    I think it is a shame that so many people apparently doubt the resiliency and strength of our children.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      Come on Wayne, you stretched the point I make so far you broke it. The “hey kid” part is misplaced here and you know it.

      As for “so many people doubt, ” how do you explain the mental health crises those kids are experiencing that is many times the levels pre-COVID?

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        “…the mental health crises those kids are experiencing that is many times the levls pre-COVID?”

        “From March 2020 to October 2020, mental health–related emergency department visits increased 24% for children ages 5 to 11 and 31% for those ages 12 to 17 compared with 2019 emergency department visits, according to CDC data (Leeb, R. T., et al., Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, Vol. 69, No. 45, 2020).”

        Since when is an increase of 24 to 31% “many times”?

        1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          It’s not 2020.

          1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Let’s see your source then for in excess of “many times” (as in say 500% increases or so) increases in mental health–related emergency department visits. I am sure you can back up your claims, eh…

          2. Not Today Avatar
            Not Today

            Provide updated stats.

          3. Those statistics are not instantly available, but The American Psychological Association’s 2022 survey of practioners indicates not all those needing treatment are able to receive it. While psychologists reported a 79% patient increase in anxiety disorders and 66% for depressive disorders, 60% had no openings for new patients, 32% reported waitlists of 10-49 people, 10 % 50 or more, 5% of 100 or more. 37% didn’t have a waitlist because they didn’t have the capacity to manage one. Waiting times for children has been months in other reports, so we may not know the full extent of the need –and whether it can be met—for quite some time. Many charts from this 2022 survey here: https://www.apa.org/pubs/reports/practitioner/2022-covid-psychologist-workload

          4. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            this is not just about kids though:

            It’s all demographics and it shows across the board increases.

            It’s pandemic related, not school lockdown related.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/157d4c154dad3ce81e658843cfe6e870bf6538c718174086a163987e75318e4e.jpg

          5. Larry, the point is we don’t currently know the extent of children’s needs, won’t for a year or more at best, and there weren’t enough psychologists for children before the pandemic, and even fewer available now who have longer wait times, if any are even available. It;s a snowball of a problem rolling downhill.

          6. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Right. But that’s not the argument being made. We’re talking like we DO KNOW , AND we seem to be implying
            that it’s because of remote learning rather than the pandemic in similar ways that have affected other people in similar percentages. Basically, people, all ages , have been affected in adverse ways by the pandemic because they were not able to get out and be with others and socialize in general.

            But we seem to be arguing that kids were more impacted and “harmed” by remote learning policies alone rather than an inability to socialize in general in other venues also, just like adults were deprived.

            Isn’t that a point also?

          7. James C. Sherlock Avatar
            James C. Sherlock

            So let it be written.

          8. Charles D'Aulnais Avatar
            Charles D’Aulnais

            There has been a constant increase in pepole seeking mental health services for awhile with similar increases. For example:
            https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-545sp

          9. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Yes. Perhaps some of it related to the pandemic but the data also shows it spans age demographics, it’s not just kids and the claimed link to their mental issues and lockdowns has not been shown or provided other than the claim.

          10. Charles D'Aulnais Avatar
            Charles D’Aulnais

            Mental health services are far less stigmatized by my generation than by those before, and even less by those following. It’s going to be expected to see an increase. Even in the active duty military there is increased access, and the past two years have seen suicides in the Army decrease significantly.

            The transient spike in access during 2020 and 2021 could be caused caused by the policies or by the simple threat of getting sick and dying. Do the numbers also include “grief counseling”? One million dead is a lot of grief.

      2. Broke it? I don’t think so. This is the second article you have posted claiming that the harm done by Covid closings is permanent. And I still don’t buy it. Did the 1918 flu epidemic cause permanent damage to our people, society and economy? The little kids traumatized by that event are the same people who won World War II for us and became known as the greatest generation. And they did it without grief counselors.

        The “hey kid” part was sarcasm. If sarcasm is going to be banned at Bacon’s Rebellion then it will become very boring around here.

        Just because a child needs some mental health assistance today does not mean he/she will need it forever. Trauma suffered during the Covid crisis doesn’t have to be permanent, and no matter how many articles are written claiming otherwise, the overwhelming majority of our children can and will fully recover.

        Your pessimism regarding the issue is sad and disappointing.

      3. Broke it? I don’t think so. This is the second article you have posted claiming that the harm done by Covid closings is permanent. And I still don’t buy it.

        Did the 1918 flu epidemic cause permanent irreperable damage to our people, society and economy? The little kids traumatized by that event are the same people who won World War II for us and became known as the greatest generation. And they did it without grief counselors.

        The “hey kid” part was sarcasm. If sarcasm is going to be banned at Bacon’s Rebellion then it will become very boring around here.

        Just because a child needs some mental health assistance today does not mean he/she will need it forever. Trauma suffered during the Covid crisis doesn’t have to be permanent, and no matter how many articles are written claiming otherwise, the overwhelming majority of our children can and will fully recover.

        Your pessimism regarding the issue is sad and disappointing.

        1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          You are entitled not to “buy it”.

          You are fairly isolated in that view, but that doesn’t mean that your opinion doesn’t deserve airing.

          But the state and federal governments have to plan for it, or be late to solutions.

          This administration will not treat this like the Pandemic Annex 4 to the Virginia Emergency Operations Plan, which was ignored by a series of Democratic governors until COVID arrived, and then the Northam administration attempted to bury the evidence. I caught them at it, but only with 24 hours to spare.

          As an aside, my paternal grandfather died in the 1918 flu epidemic four months before my father was born. It did irreparable damage to his mother and two sisters. In a coal town in Pennsylvania.

          They survived. They surely did not have what you so gratuitously call “grief counselors.”

          But all remained scarred by the event.

          And yes, my father fought in WW II, but you insult his entire generation with the “grief counselors” line.

          No one in his family ever truly got over it.

          But we will try not to bore you. Or make you sad. Or disappointed. That is our mission. Sorry.

          1. Ah, good. Sarcasm has not been banned.

        2. killerhertz Avatar
          killerhertz

          They didn’t have social media 100 years ago. I think you are underestimating the amplification of that technology.

    2. Matt Adams Avatar
      Matt Adams

      I concur, it is far to early to tell the long term impacts may cause. The only caveat to that is the fact that standards were decreasing prior to COVID (reflecting poorly on our system). COVID just hastened that.

      The only thing for certain is the students with learning issues prior to only got worse and I don’t know if they have the resilience to overcome the impacts.

  7. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    Well, we can’t seem to not continue looking in the rear view mirror and assigning blame.

    Nevermind, that even schools that went in-person showed “losses” and some of them big losses.

    We suffered a pandemic, it adversely affected a lot of things including schools.

    No one loses a “lifetime” over one or even two years of loss of schooling. It’s just illogical. It’s like they can never catch up no matter what. They can and many will.

    This whole thing is used by some folks as justification to basically undermine public schools and advocate for taxpayer-funded non-public schools, even religious schools without any real plan for academic performance or accountability.

    I’d support taxpayer-funded non public schools for ONLY the kids that folks are caterwauling about – those poor “minorities” and oh by the way the economically disadvantaged without regard to race as long as they have similar academic standards, testing , scores, and accountability if they too “fail”.

    I’m no fan of the public schools when it comes to the education needs of the economically-disadvantaged. In most school districts, they are the black sheep who do not have their needs effectively met and we have tons of excuses why and that it’s “not possible” to really remediate them with holding back a grade or summer school or what? And the usual public school opponents making it a racial argument is no better IMO.

    HOWEVER, I DO expect the “choice” schools to do something and not make the same excuses – or else.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      You wrote “No one loses a “lifetime” over one or even two years of loss of schooling.”

      Not sure of your source for that other than folk wisdom. Some will recover, but the time and effort spent will displace what needs to be learned going forward with that same level of effort. Any kid who was our for a year and a quarter should have been tested before proceeding and held back if appropriate. That was done nowhere.

      Take math.

      If a kid missed the last quarter of the second and all of the third grade, he did not learn how to multiply and divide unless that happened at home. The NAEP results of the 4th graders in 2022 proved that most did not.

      So at the end of the fourth grade, they did not know how to multiply and divide. And the fourth grade work assumed they did. So they did not learn that either.

      Now look at the math curricula for 5-12. It too assumes that the kids not only know how to multiply and divide, but learned 4th grade math.

      It is a rolling disaster, Larry.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        It’s over and we’re moving on. We don’t need blame over something we will never agree on. We had a pandemic. It did a lot of damage to a lot of things and we had and continue to have disagreements over what should have been done.

        None of that solves problems.

        It’s like a natural disaster. We can blame all we want but all we do is waste time and money doing so.

        I just reject the looking back blame game. It’s of no benefit.

        1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          My military training. The mission isn’t over until the debrief is complete.

          How do we plan for the next crisis if we refuse to consider the lessons from this one?

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            When the lessons are to assign blame that we don’t agree on , then we certainly won’t agree on how to “fix”.

            And we won’t make it any better by using pejoratives like “left” and “woke” either.

            I can just imagine a military debrief on something that went awry and the principles start calling each other names, they don’t agree and the debrief ends…

            😉

          2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
            James C. Sherlock

            “Blame that we don’t agree on”. Do you think there was no harm or that progressives did not lead the charge to keep the schools closed?

            “Calling each other names”. See my response above.
            Progressives love the term woke. They invented it and assigned it to themselves. Like an aviation call sign, except we were never allowed to assign them to ourselves.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            We agree there was harm. We do not agree on blame.

            There was no “charge” to close the schools any more or less than there was a “charge” to close many other workplaces.

            There was real doubt as to how the disease spread or not. Legitimate concerns.

            It’s over and you’re still blaming. Move on.

            “Woke” is not used in the same way by “progressives” as it is being used by folks like you and JAB.

            You’re using it as a pejorative to label entire groups of people that you have no clue about.

          4. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            It’s very difficult to pierce the ideology of grievance.

          5. James C. Sherlock Avatar
            James C. Sherlock

            Read my response to Eric in this thread. I plan to update and post this column every month. Enjoy.

          6. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            “I plan to update and post this column every month”

            Promises, promises…

          7. Not Today Avatar
            Not Today

            Indeed. One can only marvel at the inordinate sensitivity and grievance, nary a solution in sight.

          8. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            “Do you think there was no harm or that progressives did not lead the charge to keep the schools closed?”

            There does not appear to be a correlation between length of school closures and the reduction in test scores. Until that relationship is established, one can not claim that school closures caused harm.

          9. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            and needs to explain why in-person schools ALSO had losses. How can that be?

          10. James C. Sherlock Avatar
            James C. Sherlock

            Nice try. No, ridiculous, counter-scientific try. But you have convinced me that this is the topic that progressives fear most.

            I think I’ll update this column every month.

          11. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            What is counter-scientific is claiming a cause where there isn’t even correlation. Update away, Sport! I will be right here pointing out your failures every time…

            Btw, I think you are up to 16 comments so far… more than a few off topic…

          12. Woke as used by Jim Sherlock here is not derogatory. Go look at the link I posted to Not Today a few posts before your chart of cities and crime stats.

          13. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            I did look at it Carol and it’s NOT being used in the original meaning and instead has been co-opted by folks on the right to pejoratively describe progressives and Sherlock and JAB use it to describe entire classes of people like school boards and companies, and higher ed, even VMI and the military that they really have no clue with respect to the actual make-up of.

            When you use that word in that way, you’re not making a serious argument, you’re just throwing pejoratives around.

            The FOX article says it’s about cancel culture!

          14. It is a descriptor, not a pejorative, and appropriate to use as such.

          15. Not Today Avatar
            Not Today

            What do cities and crime stats have to do with education and learning loss? How is it even tangentially relevant?

          16. Charles D'Aulnais Avatar
            Charles D’Aulnais

            Maybe “woke” is not a pejorative, but it lowers the level of conversation when less colloquial terms such as liberals, or even liberal ideologues are available. I doubt that this is a case of “she stoops to conquer”.

      2. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        “folk wisdom” = opinion , the same thing as someone saying “rolling disaster”… works both ways.

        a “rolling disaster” IMO of course, is the way the Conservatives deal with pandemics… … see how that works?

  8. Thomas Dixon Avatar
    Thomas Dixon

    Not just children that suffer. Still. At Eastern State Hospital individuals are being forced to stay inside of small bedrooms with no access to anyone but a clinician wearing a full hazmat suit for ten days. Ten days confined to a room while having no symptoms of any disease, just some forced test, often while being physically held that turned out positive. Imagine what this would do to someone with dementia, with depression, or with paranoia or voices that hound them when they are alone. It is an inhumane practice and it needs to be exposed.

  9. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    When we use the word “woke” to describe school boards across the country, in my view, we are using a pejorative that labels people we don’t even know and when we do this we make it an us and them issue when it’s not and need not be. It impugns people who choose public service to serve their communities and they do not deserve that label from others who do not even know them. It’s divisive and engenders division in trying to work together to do better for education. We could use less of it.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      Please. They run as progressives, Larry. Progressives invented the term “woke”: “the quality of being alert to injustice and discrimination in society”. They gave the name to themselves. Hardly a pejorative. Try again.

      1. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        Progressives, as you know, did not invent the term woke. It arose from Black speech. Conservatives twisted its application to skewer liberals. Once again, you distort reality. Try again. On second thought, don’t.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          “Woke” is the follow on pejorative from “virtue signaling”. Preferred to discussions on the merits. Calling it out is called “trolling”.

        2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          “So, conservatives twisted its application to skewer liberals.”

          I was embarrassed, teared up actually, then I researched it.

          “First used in the 1940s, the term “woke” has resurfaced in recent years as a concept that symbolizes awareness of social issues and movement against injustice, inequality, and prejudice.”

          “Being woke was originally associated with black Americans fighting racism, but has been appropriated by other activist groups – taking it from awareness and blackness to a colorless and timeless phenomenon.”

          So it actually represents cultural appropriation by white progressives.

          Now who is mortified?

          The quotes are from https://theconversation.com/where-woke-came-from-and-why-marketers-should-think-twice-before-jumping-on-the-social-activism-bandwagon-122713

        3. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          “Woke” is the follow on pejorative from “virtue signaling”. Preferred to discussions on the merits. Calling it out is called “trolling”.

      2. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        The term “woke” as used by some here is as a pejorative and is a different meaning when they use it.

        And I think you know this.

        The term is used like a pejorative to label entire groups of people that you know nothing about. You’re using it to describe folks who you don’t even know what actions they’ve taken or not. It engenders disagreement and divisiveness from the get go IMO.

      3. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        “They gave the name to themselves. Hardly a pejorative.”

        So your opinion is that who is using a word and how they are using it has no basis on whether it is pejorative or not. You know this is demonstrably false don’t you?

        1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          So, under that construct, only progressives can call themselves the “w-word” without it being pejorative rather than descriptive.

          Are there any other words that I should put on that list?

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            They can use that word in the context they intended when they started using it.

            yes.

            why would they use it in a pejorative way anyhow?

            You, OTOH, KNOW that the use of the word by conservatives is not the way it is used by progressives and you still use it on purpose as a pejorative.

            You and JAB begin your blog posts that way, as pejoratives, then get your nose out of joint when folks return the favor in the comments.

            Like I said – the blog post sets the tone for the comments.

    2. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Conservatives, too, are woke—just to a different set of perceptions.

  10. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    “His critics here argued into the night about study methodology, but none denied costs at some level would be there. They did not offer their own estimates.”

    Henceforward to be known as the Sherlock Doctrine – one can not critique any expert’s study if one does not perform a counter-study and offer one’s own alternate results. Sure to be applied to a Climate Change denial piece on BR any day now…

    BTW, Sherlock already has 6 comments to my 1… broke his own rules pretty quick this time…

  11. Not Today Avatar
    Not Today

    Is it off topic to consider what preferred parenting model(s) and policy prescriptions might address these student performance issues, COVID aside?

    The study identified “abuse, neglect, exposure to violence and mental illness in caregivers” as problems as well as the inability to self-regulate in the face of those issues as factors.

    What’s required to prevent abuse, neglect, exposure to violence, mental illness, and emotional regulation? Does the article attempt to wrestle with that? No. Why not?

    Is it because the things that work to build families are antithetical to conservative ideology and absent from conservative policy proposals? Is it because merely asking the questions exposes people who, for decades, advanced policies that contributed to the problems at issue?

    What do we know works to reduce child abuse, neglect, community violence and improve emotional regulation?

    1. Money. People with financial resources can afford to be, or pay someone to be, available to their children. If wealthy people fail, affluenza is to blame, not dysfunction.
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jan/04/affluenza-history-disease-wealth-privilege-ethan-couch

    2. Education. Good schools teach students how to regulate their reactions to stressors, manage their schedules and finances. They also provide physical outlets/after school activities want or might benefit from extracurricular activities outside the home.

    3. Stable families. Exposure to violence/abuse which is, again tied to economic and personal family/household stressors. We know factors like underage parents, strict adherence to gender roles, and drug/alcohol abuse are issues. https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/intimatepartnerviolence/riskprotectivefactors.html

    4. Emotional regulation support. Currently, this is labeled CRT/’woke’ and targeted for derision and defunding by the author. https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/03/28/social-emotional-learning-critical-race-theory/

    Given all that we know about social determinants of health, wealth, and educational outcomes, one question begs an answer…what is the data-informed, research-based, conservative policy prescription for academic underperformance and family dysfunction?

    Do they support incentivizing parenthood at older ages? Gosh, no. Any preteen who gets pregnant is parent material. https://www.businessinsider.com/michigan-gop-governor-candidate-said-having-baby-healing-rape-victims-2022-8
    https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-wyoming-house-elections-teen-pregnancy-health-7ac5a0a6221a0472c7a75263575eaae2

    Do they support increasing wages/decreasing economic inequality? Nope. That is the free market at work.
    Conservatives’ Hypocrisy On Income Inequality: Believe What …https://americansfortaxfairness.org › issues › estate-tax

    Do they support education? Social-emotional learning is ‘woke’ propaganda and schools are just misusing tax dollars anyway. https://www.cfchildren.org/policy-collateral/one-pagers/sel-school-safety-and-school-climate/

    Do conservatives support family building policies like paid parental leave? Nope, not that either. https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-government-paid-family-leave-plan-democrats-ways-and-means-committee-11632160035

    Hmmm…

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      Welcome back Nancy.

      “Is it because the things that work to build families are antithetical to conservative ideology and absent from conservative policy proposals?”

      Wow. “Things that work to build families”. I’ll just let that one sit there.

      “Is it because merely asking the questions exposes people who, for decades, advanced policies that contributed to the problems at issue?”

      That one too. You have left me without words. Good night.

    2. In short, yes. Your comment goes well beyond the scope of this post. If you want to write a different article, or a series on all these issues, please do and submit to Jim Bacon. In the meantime, comment on what has been posted, not all the possibilities that could have been addressed.

      1. Not Today Avatar
        Not Today

        The article specifically talks about educational issues and attributed learning loss to wokeness: it’s out of bounds to address that in my response? It’s out of bounds to quote the concerns raised in the piece itself and discuss them one by one? I’m not understanding why Sherlock’s response is being left unchecked. Each of the things I described are antidotes to learning loss. Isn’t that the point? To address learning gaps?

    3. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      “Is it because the things that work to build families are antithetical to conservative ideology and absent from conservative policy proposals?”

      Wow. “Things that work to build families”. I’ll just let that one sit there.

      “Is it because merely asking the questions exposes people who, for decades, advanced policies that contributed to the problems at issue?”

      That one too. You have left me without words. Good night.

  12. James C. Sherlock Avatar
    James C. Sherlock

    “Neither Ms. Weir nor Mr. Littel say even one word about shutdowns nor the pandemic as far as I can see.”

    You do know that Ms. Weir was writing in 2017, right?

    As for Mr. Littel, he is asking a Democratic majority Senate for an additional $218 million for mental health. In what universe do you think he is going to criticize them?

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      I’m talking about what they said or not about lockdowns and the pandemic.
      You’re quoting them in the context of your article that is arguing about lockdowns and the pandemic.

      What in the substance of their words are related to the substance of your premise?

  13. Virginia Gentleman Avatar
    Virginia Gentleman

    Furthermore, Virginia has had a “mental health” crisis for many years – way before the word “COVID” was even uttered. So attaching the efforts to fix a problem that existed before the pandemic and suggesting that they are because of the pandemic is nonsensical and just flat wrong.

    1. Yes, there was a mental health crisis in Virginia before COVID. That crisis was getting worse. The shutdown in response to COVID kept many people in isolation, making matters EVEN WORSE and ACCELERATED the previous trend. Now mental illness is even more prevalent than ever. How hard is this to understand?

      No one is blaming the mental health crisis entirely on the pandemic. That’s just making stuff up.

      1. Virginia Gentleman Avatar
        Virginia Gentleman

        The point is that the plan that is being rolled out by Sec. Littel and the Governor is a plan that would have been rolled out even without the pandemic. The OP suggested that this plan included the increased costs caused by the pandemic and there is absolutely no evidence to support that. In fact, it is debatable that the proposed plan would even come close to fixing the pre-pandemic funding challenges in the program. To suggest the Gen C Covid impact was even a topic of conversation in developing the plan is frankly an effort to score political points and not based on facts.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          This is not the only post in BR making such claims. It’s actually typical of a narrative that continues to place blame for the pandemic and responses to it.

          And it leads to a lot of comments pointing it out and subsequent back and forths (like this one) continuing to claim that the post that claimed impacts from Shutdowns ..did not… i.e. ” No one is blaming the mental health crisis entirely on the pandemic. That’s just making stuff up.” when it is in plain view!

          I just don’t understand JAB’s statements – and he tends to get irate when it’s pointed out claiming his words are being “distorted” so I have to do exact quotes.

          1. Virginia Gentleman Avatar
            Virginia Gentleman

            Agree – it would be the same is if someone tried to blame the Loudon County sexual attacks on woke
            transgender policies …. oh wait. Bad example.

  14. killerhertz Avatar
    killerhertz

    Let’s be frank. There were very few Republicans fighting this. The exceptions being congressmen like Rep Massie and Sen Paul. Even most red states locked down hard, with the exception of maybe Florida and Texas.

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