Porn OK in Schools If It Has “Literary Value”?

by Deborah Hommer

Parents all across the United States parents are discovering shocking reading materials in their school libraries and classrooms. We’re not talking about “Lady Chatterly’s Lover.” To give one particularly horrendous example, we’re talking graphic novels depicting fellatio and pedophilia. Many parents are asking, How can this be?

The U.S. federal government and every state has strict laws against obscenity and child pornography. In Reno v. ACLU (1997), the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that “transmitting obscenity and child pornography, whether via the Internet or other means, is… illegal under federal law for both adults and juveniles.”

Supreme Court Case Roth v. U.S. (1957) defined “obscene speech” as that being “utterly without redeeming social importance,” in which, “to the average person, applying contemporary community standards, the dominant theme of the material taken as a whole appeals to prurient interest.” Miller v. California (1973) established the standard and determined that obscene materials are not protected by the First Amendment when in, a three-part test, they “appeal to the prurient interest,” “depicts … sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable state law,” and “the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value.”

The intent of these federal laws, state laws, and Supreme Court case law is to protect children from inappropriate content. How, then does pornography get in our schools? Well, school systems are taking advantage of the loophole created by the Miller v. California Supreme Court case. All they have to do is claim the book or content has “serious literary value,” and, voi​là, it’s in.

There you have it. Even materials of the lowest common denominator are now kosher. All you have to do is slap a label on it as having “literary value.” Without the label, there are severe legal consequences.

Virginia Code has a chapter devoted to “Crimes Involving Morals and Decency,” and underneath it is Article 5 (28 sections) related to “Obscenity and Related Offenses.” But, of course,  § 18.2-383 delineates exceptions to these crimes to  “(1) … any library, school, or institution of higher education.”

The Virginia General Assembly passed bills in 2016 (HB 516) and 2017 (HB 2191) that would have required the Board of Education to write a policy on notification to parents of sexually explicit instructional material, give parents an opportunity to review the material, and find alternative reading materials if parental approval is not provided. The bill passed two years in a row with bipartisan support, only to be vetoed by then Governor Terry McAuliffe both years claiming essentially that he is trusting the schools with the “appropriate literary and artistic works.”

Here’s another head scratcher: On FCPS BoardDocs, Regulation 3007.3, page 4, (4) states, “In grades 9 through 12, the committee may approve excerpts from TV-MA or R-rated programs. The following additional guidelines shall be followed.” Section (a) requires “Local School Approval”; “(b) Written notification to parents …”; and “(c) Written permission must be received from students’ parents before viewing.” So, there is no parental permission required from parents for their children reading essentially what are R-rated books, but there is for movies?

After reading the opinions of Supreme Court justices in the above-mentioned cases, among others, the dilemma is real — questions of whether obscenity laws belong in court (violation of the separation of powers; legislators, not courts, need to write laws); difference of opinions as to what constitutes “obscenity”; the conflicting nature of the First Amendment and obscenity laws; the application of community norms; what constitutes “serious literary value”; and, of course, the perennial question of “Who decides?”

What we do know is that several Supreme Court cases and Virginia law affirm that parents have fundamental rights. Virginia code § 1-240.1. states, “A parent has a fundamental right to make decisions concerning the upbringing, education and care of the parent’s child.” It doesn’t get any clearer than this.

Questions for those who are decrying “banned books,” “censorship” and/or “First Amendment rights”: Who decides? Parents who have the fundamental rights or the schools?

News flash: The laws as evidenced in Supreme Court cases, state court cases, and state laws assert parental rights. Are there any books children should be protected from being exposed to? What’s the purpose of G and PG-13 rated movies? Should reading materials at schools be rated? Should schools get loopholes on materials that clearly violate Supreme Court case law, federal laws, and state laws?

It’s time to have some serious discussions regarding the required reading materials in school English classes, in libraries, and whether they should be rated; the built-in loopholes to getting obscenity/pornography in front of students; the lack of parental involvement; and the difference of opinion of what is or is not “serious literary value.”

Deborah Hommer resides in Fairfax County. She is founder, 501(c)(3) Constitutional Reflections (Website under construction).


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45 responses to “Porn OK in Schools If It Has “Literary Value”?”

  1. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    Let the book bans and burnings recommence! I guess we have to figure out a way for kids to be blocked from using Google on their phones also?

    HELLO! It’s the 21st century, and virtually anyone with a phone or internet connection can google “fellatio”!

    I know, I know. Gawd Dang liberals have absolutely RUINED America!

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Well, avoiding sexual activity becomes even more important when one is totally unvaccinated….

      It’s a fair point that if there is a process for R rated movies perhaps some process and alternative options should apply for R rated books. I read Lady Chatterley during high school 🙂 but it wasn’t a school assignment.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        I’m afraid that ” avoiding sexual activity ” is the ultimate oxymoron when it comes to teens.

        No?

        besides they’d need a different kind of “mask”:

        I hope this doesn’t violate JABs TOS or rile up the anti-porn folks:

        https://p1.liveauctioneers.com/5766/151491/77732057_1_x.jpg?height=512&quality=70&version=1573213024

    2. Packer Fan Avatar
      Packer Fan

      Yeah, I’m sure grade school kids are going to google “fellatio”. Just because kids can access things that they shouldn’t doesn’t mean those things should be provided to them by the public schools. Some responsible parents actually limit what their kids access online.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        It would be far easier for a kid to GOOGLE for “forbidden” words than to find out WHICH books in the library had such words. No?

  2. Wahoo'74 Avatar
    Wahoo’74

    Keep up the good work, Ms. Hommer. LarrytheG obviously thinks this is humorous. I don’t.

    Hedonism is OK. CRT/1619 reigns. The American Revolution was fought to maintain slavery (even though Great Britain generally owned the ships and didn’t ban slavery until 1830, i.e., they didn’t forbid US slavery in 1776) not for political and economic freedom. American exceptionalism is a passé philosophy, an outgrowth of white supremacy.

    Yep, our public schools are superb intellectual Petri dishes for children’s educations.

    The world has gone mad.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      I don’t think it’s humorous per se but the out-of-touch-with-the-real world aspect is.

      Don’t point to the schools. Point to our society – the schools have to somehow how to figure out how to operate – in the real world as it exists. They can’t roll back contemporary societal norms – they have to adapt, which is something some folks are unable or unwilling to accept and do.

      Some Conservatives have problems along these lines. They want the world to be what it was but it’s not and change has happened and we have t deal with it and move on.

  3. tmtfairfax Avatar
    tmtfairfax

    Back a few years ago, my wife and I served as chaperones on a Langley HS Orchestra trip to NYC for the kids to play at Carnegie Hall. There were a couple buses full of students, a few FCPS staff member and some parents. The buses had the capacity to show movies on CD. Coming back to McLean, a PG-13 movie was started. One of the school support staff on the bus soon realized that FCPS policy prohibited the showing of any movie that was not G or PG. The movie was stopped and replaced with a G-rated movie. Some of the kids groaned, but everyone cooperated.

    How does one square this policy with the one permitting clearly sexual and, in the eyes of many, perverse books in the school libraries?

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      You have to ask a couple of questions.

      How MANY of these books ?

      Is it the practice of the library to stock lots of these books or was it something that happened for one or two ?

      What’s the real purpose of this complaint? Is it to ask the school to fix this or is it something to gin up opposition to public schools for all their perceived “sins”?

      Who are the people doing this? Is it some parents who are genuinely concerned, or is it political activists?

    2. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      That is a fair question. In mind, it can be justified because movies can be much more graphic than books. Watching a rape scene or a torture scene, or even a consensual sex scene, on the screen with actual people is quite different than reading about it in a book.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        I do not think schools should be enabling this but I also suspect none do except by mistakes and perhaps some individuals lapses in judgement and most are more than willing to address the issue and some even willing to stand up citizens panels to curate.

        But it’s also important to acknowledge the realities of the availability to kids if they want to find it.

        I’m actually much more concerned about kids and social media, bullying and other kinds of harmful “content” that kids are subject to from others.
        Some kids, unfortunately, have been brought up wrong and prey on other kids and schools end
        up being the ones who see the bad behaviors and can try to do something about it.

        Often NOT hear this from the anti-maskers, or anti-porn, anti-teacher, anti-public education types… who use the word “protect” or “fight for our kids” and other misnomers.

      2. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        Dick. the book that got this started was totally “graphic,” in that it was basically a comic book about male homosexual behavior, an illustrated how-to. It was promoting that behavior. Complain and you are labeled “homophobe. I have to agree that one needs to go.

      3. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        Dick, the book that got this started was totally “graphic,” in that it was basically a comic book about male homosexual behavior and pederasty, an illustrated how-to. It was promoting that behavior. Complain and you are labeled “homophobe.” I have to agree that one needs to go and supports the argument for more disclosure to parents. The schools abused parents’ trust.

        1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
          Dick Hall-Sizemore

          I agree with you. In fact, I don’t think libraries should have any comics, er, “graphic novels”.

      4. Packer Fan Avatar
        Packer Fan

        Maybe so, but most readers also have their own images of the “goings on” of books in the minds, so reading it rather than seeing it is probably not going to make anyone more comfortable.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          Can anyone imagine a kids going through the stacks in the library looking for such books? How would such offending books be “found” to start with?

          When you were a kid, did you spend hours in the library looking for such books to “check out”?

  4. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    The country has been having “serious discussions regarding the required reading materials in school English classes, in libraries…” for a long time. I think what the author means by a “serious discussion” is banning books she thinks are bad. To demonstrate how far some of these folks want to go, the American Library Association included the following in its 2020 list of “Top Ten Most Challenged Books:

    To Kill a Mockingbirdby Harper Lee. “Banned and challenged for racial slurs and their negative effect on students, featuring a “white savior” character, and its perception ofthe Black experience.”

    Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck. “Banned and challenged for racial slurs and racist stereotypes, and their negative effect on students.”

    The 2019 list included the Harry Potter series, “banned and forbidden from discussion for referring to magic andwitchcraft, for containing actual curses and spells, and for charactersthat use “nefarious means” to attain goals>”

    From what I have seen on these pages about the contents of some of these books, I admit that I am somewhat uncomfortable with them, especially for younger kids. However, parents need to be aware of what their children are reading and encourage discussion with them of what is being read. In the age of the internet, kids have access to everything. And, finally, as any parent should know, if something is banned or prohibited, that only encourages the kid all the more to try it or read it.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Uh, “parents need to be aware” is what everybody is saying, Dick. A year of virtual learning with the parents in the room has made more aware. 🙂

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Aware, but not hysterical.

  5. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    ‘ “A parent has a fundamental right to make decisions concerning the upbringing, education and care of the parent’s child.” It doesn’t get any clearer than this.’

    Interested in what you think it means. To me it means that parents can choose in which institution to educate their children. It does not extend a right to parents to dictate curriculum in public schools. Input? Yes. Selection of school board members? Of course. But it pretty much ends there. You do not have the right, for instance, to disrupt and obstruct the school board from doing their job.

    Seems pretty clear to me.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      Yes… and you pull that kind of stunt in a private school and they boot your sorry butt and your kids….

      1. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        Larry, you are totally naïve if you think the appearance of a book like the aforementioned “Lawn Boy” with its illustrations of pedophilia was an accident. It was intentional, an effort to normalize such behavior, because those of us nauseated by the idea need to have our outdated mores challenged! If we raise our children to consider such behavior criminal or sinful then we are the child abusers, not the predatory adults. Any school official with any role in placing that book should be fired and dis-licensed.

        Likewise the book I mentioned a weeks back, found in the Henrico library by my 6 year old granddaughter, that turned out to be about a little boy who wanted to be a girl, and took on the clothes, hair and persona. That was a book intended to normalize that behavior with the youngest of readers. Some would see it as recruitment. It did not just slip onto the shelves unnoticed.

        1. Both graphic books being discussed received American Library Association Alex Awards “The Alex Awards are given to ten books written for adults that have
          special appeal to young adults, ages 12 through 18.”
          (Emphasis mine.)

          That’s how schools can do this without parents knowing.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Again – what is the prevalence of this?

            Is it one book in one school or is it at all schools in a district and approved by the School administrators?

            What’s the truth?

            one book in one school that is not approved by the Administration is way different than a book in a schools because it’s mandated.

            Do the truth.

          2. Wasn’t a Pulitzer Prize awarded for the great reporting of the Trump-Russian collusion operation?

        2. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          If you can show that this book is standard fare in all schools in a district , rather than a one-off then you might convince me.

          There are LOTS of books out there LIKE THIS and the real question is do all the schools in a given school district have this and many others in their library – or is this one book at one school, the result of an individual and against school district guidelines?

          1. A link in this article shows it is in 12 schools in the Fairfax district. https://www.baconsrebellion.com/putting-the-xxx-in-fairfaxxx/

          2. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Yup – and removed. right?

            I notice they found them with online searches, which means anyone could easily find them as opposed to them being secretly stocked in the libraries.

            In other words, anyone apparently can search all through the libraries for “offending” books and then point them out.

            This is little more than “gotcha” stuff… by opponents..

            I fully expect the Project Veritas folks to have some videos of CRT “teaching” soon..

            These are political opponents of public schools as opposed to legitimate concerned parents – who would work in more collaborative ways to fix issues.

            These folks are not about fixing issues.
            It’s a political fist fight.

          3. A mother going to a school board meeting to bring up the issue is the same as a fist fight to you? Especially when the board cut off her mic and left the room. Right. /done

          4. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            She did not bring this up prior with officials. She waited and then purposely started reading out-loud the offending passages in a room full of jeering rowdies.

            Yes.

            These folks are not about improving public schools. They are opponents of public schools find whatever they can find to tar them.

            No one is fooled here. It’s easy to see what is going on – it’s a political strategy to basically damage the schools, their staffs and elected boards.

            It’s going on on many school boards. It’s folks of the same political persuasion.

          5. Stephen Haner Avatar
            Stephen Haner

            On his way to the oven Larry will be making excuses for the Nazis….

          6. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            No excuses. Just know who is REALLY interested in improving public education and who are really staunch enemies trying to tear it down and taking us back to private schools funded by tax dollars.

            If schools have books that are inappropriate – AND you REALLY want to not have them – then there are a multitude of ways to have that actually happen without making it a confrontation involving a crowd of ignorant belligerents.

          7. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Yeah, but it still won’t have any effect on you.

          8. Packer Fan Avatar
            Packer Fan

            So now citizens don’t have rights to address the “officials” unless they tell them in advance what they want to talk about. Public comment is public comment. An agenda item is what is used to “bring something” up in advance of the public meeting.

          9. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            I’ve been in front of the LCPS board on multiple occasions. If I had an issue with how things were being run (and I did), I first brought it to the attention of the administration and gave them a chance to address the issue. The next step would be to write all SB members. Only after being ignored (which happens, believe me) did I move to public condemnation. That is how it is done if you really want to make changes for the better.

            Larry is dead-on here. This is simple gotcha politics stuff. This “parent” has no interest in anything but embarrassing the public school system. The book is just the vehicle here – nothing more.

          10. LarrytheG Avatar

            Most books in most schools are appropriate. Every now and then something happens that should not but that’s not a secret strategy to provide porn to kids except in the minds of these yahoos some of which is pure political strategy to rile up folks who basically just want to tear down and impugn.

            No institution is without it’s flaws but it’s far sight from this really ignorant conspiracy stuff going around and getting folks to show up and disrupt meetings.

            It’s a You_Tube thing for the wackadoodles and yes we do have a few….

          11. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            There’s a word for this entire affair: hysteria, which explains CJ’s and Steve’s “half-cockedness”, or vice versa.

          12. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            I’ve been in front of the LCPS board on multiple occasions. If I had an issue with how things were being run (and I did), I first brought it to the attention of the administration and gave them a chance to address the issue. The next step would be to write all SB members. Only after being ignored (which happens, believe me) did I move to public condemnation. That is how it is done if you really want to make changes for the better.

            Larry is dead-on here. This is simple gotcha politics stuff. This “parent” has no interest in anything but embarrassing the public school system. The book is just the vehicle here – nothing more.

          13. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Okay Karen.

        3. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Which “Lawn Boy”? There are two books by that title, ya know.

          One is about capitalism.

          I doubt you can find an illustration on pedophilia in either of them, OR even an illustration about the author’s autobiographical recounting of a homosexual encounter in the 4th grade with his friend/classmate.

          What’s next there, Captain Beatty? Should we burn John Knowles’ books too?

          Correction: while reviewing the book, one source referred to autobiographical experiences in the book. This may not be the case in the particular event.

    2. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      The key is
      “A parent has A fundamental…”
      Not
      “A parent has THE fundamental…”

  6. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    You people DO realize we’re talking about books in school libraries, right? Next to the janitors’ closet the most unused room in the school.

  7. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    A book about pedophilia? The Catechism?

  8. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    My protagonist, Mike, has a sexual experience at a youth group meeting at the age of ten with another ten-year-old boy, which Mike is still ashamed of in early adulthood. During the course of the novel, which lands squarely in the realm of bildungsroman, Mike owns this particular sexual experience, and revisits it through a (sometimes uncomfortable) humorous lens as he re-contextualizes the event as a part of his self-actualization. There is graphic language in this scene, which depicts sexual acts. It is worth noting that the book, which was intended for an adult audience, found some crossover success due in part to winning an Alex Award from the Young Adult Library Association for “books written for adults that have special appeal to young adults, ages 12 through 18.” In addition to the aforementioned sexual passages, Lawn Boy was found to have contained “44 fucks, and 42 shits,” and I would argue that not one of them was wasted. Frankly, I would have put that number much higher. When your protagonist is a 23-year-old working class kid who is disillusioned with capitalism, racial assumptions, along with the deteriorating personal, political, and global events that seem to be conspiring against him, there’s bound to be some shits and fucks if you’re writing anywhere near the modern-realist realm.

    https://nwbooklovers.org/2021/09/28/the-would-be-banning-of-lawn-boy-and-why-im-not-booking-any-flights-to-texas-in-the-near-future/

  9. Carson Martin Avatar
    Carson Martin

    I would just like to point out the self-own of JAB using a meme from a skit where the “eww” is arbitrarily applied to everything and thus become meaningless and super annoying! Cheers.

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