NoVa Localities In Good Shape to Ride out Federal Shutdown

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Moody’s Investor Service expects the federal government shutdown to be short-lived. It could negatively impact state and local governments in the Washington metropolitan area if prolonged but most local governments should be able to ride out the storm.

Says the current issue of “Moody’s Weekly Credit Outlook for Public Finance”: “The federal government shutdown … is credit negative .. because some government employees are furloughed, some federal procurement contracts are cut or reduced, and other discretionary federal services and programs are closed.”

About 29% of the nation’s 2.8 million federal workers have been furloughed, which is ominous for the Washington region where federal employees comprise 12.6% of the workforce versus 2.1% nationally. Also, Virginia localities can expect to suffer a decline in sales tax revenue (which constituted about 6.4% of Fairfax County operating revenues) as well as cuts in Virginia state aid to local governments. Aid from the state, which acts as a conduit for much federal spending, accounts for 10% to 11% of local government spending in the metro area.

Nevertheless, the credit outlook concludes, “Most DC metro area local governments have strong credit fundamentals that will help them withstand a prolonged government shutdown. These strengths include large tax bases, high wealth levels and solid reserves. … DC area local governments reserves average a robust 22.9% of operating revenues.”

— JAB


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9 responses to “NoVa Localities In Good Shape to Ride out Federal Shutdown”

  1. No matter what happens – as long as there is a government in the US and its headquartered in Nova/DC/Md – the region will not only never suffer but any headquarters of any company, which includes the govt has highly paid executive staff. Virtually every cabinet level agency of the govt is located in NOVA/DC/Va with the executives that staff them.

    the thing that most impresses me – is just how many govt employees make high dollar salaries – 2, 3, 4 times as much as the average person in Va.
    I’ve seen RETIRED govt folks who have 100K pensions!

    The VALUE of the homes that Federal Employees live in – in NOVa and the exurbs is also mind boggling.

    In Spotsylvania/Stafford – there are two residential worlds.

    there is the world of the local working folks – teachers, deputies, retail, trades, etc who live in very modest housing…

    and then there are the subdivisions that govt and contractor workers live in – 300, 400, 500K homes and govt retired folks – who sold their NoVa homes for 600, 700, 800K then moved to Stafford/Spotsy.

    Many who work locally actually live in older homes, older subdivisions, double-wides, town-houses, and apartments.

    NoVa govt workers live in high dollar subdivisions …

    locals commute 5-10 miles, NoVa govt/contractors often commute 100 miles round-trip daily.

    don’t cry for NoVa. don’t cry for Va. NoVa is the economic engine of Virginia – and it’s fuel is high octane govt.

  2. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    Did I read this in Boomergedon? Am I insane? You mean that proximity to the hated FEDERAL government is a good thing? I need a Bacon reality check!

  3. It’s not only a “good: thing for NoVa and Va – it’s obscene in the amount of money that individuals make working for the govt – compared to the ordinary
    schmucks and schmoes in RoVa and the rest of the country.

    I keep telling folks – next time you take a trip – allow extra time and get off the interstate and onto a parallel US signed road for a while and you’ll see for real
    just how much of America lives and while there are some fancy houses there are far, far more really, really modest homes of many people who are LUCKY if they are making 30K a year.

    In the meantime, we have NoVa where 100K a year is routine – so routine that at that salary – you cannot find a single family home in NoVa and many choose to commute – not 10 or 20 miles a day – Nope – 100 miles a day.

    the put 100K on their cars in as little as two years or less while much of the rest of America it takes 5-10 years to put 100K on a car.

    Now.. if NoVa was Seattle or Boise or Austin, Tx, etc, we could be PROUD of Va’s own private-sector powerhouse economic engine.

    not so much as Govt-worker Central – at least for me – given the tremendous 50 year onslaught of them headed south to Fredericksburg to find their dream home and in the process – just ruin I-95 as a mainline interstate for East Coast travel , not to mention the mess on our own local roads as they queue up twice a day for their mega commute.

    and because Govt workers are so well paid – they push the price of everything else up.

    teachers for example – have to be paid cost-of-living supplements, reasonably priced affordable house for local workers who don’t commute is in very short supply, almost impossible to find even if a developer produced smaller scale homes for less.. they are snapped up.

    People move here – they move out into the “country” (that’s what they call it) – and once there – they oppose vociferously any new subdivisions that will take away the …cough cough.. “rural character” that their house had (apparently) no effect on…

    then they want 24/7 fire and rescue coverage – even though they moved out in the country to get that wonderful rural-character – somehow it missed their focus that most rural has 24/7 only when local volunteers are around – usually weekends… so these folks march down to the local govt and demand 24/7 service for their taxes ( which are 1/3 or less what they used to pay in NoVa)…. so of course … the local BOS responds and taxes go up for everyone – including the local workers who don’t commute and make no where near the 100K the complainers are making…

    gee… I go back and read this and it sounds TERRIBLE …

    but PLEASE – don’t mistake it for BITTER./

    I don’t blame these folks .. it is what it is but I’m also a pragmatic purpose who believes we have to face the truth of things and everything written here is true…

    I-95 was built through Fredericksburg in 1963. From that time forward, our fate was connected to NoVa… for better or worse.

    and .. to be balanced here.. there IS better… we have better schools, libraries, fire/ems, shopping, restaurants..doctors.. hospitals, etc.

    but GOD we DO have traffic, higher taxes and SPRAWL out the wazoo!

    NoVa is not going anywhere as long as there is a Fed Govt.

    Hampton Roads/VB? I’m worried. we current spend about a trillion dollars all told for National Defense out of total tax revenues of 1.5T.

    we have an entitlement problem also that has to be fixed but we spend way, way too much – more than we can AFFORD on National Defense so Hampton/VB – and the State of Va better worry more about that area than NoVa and that area has tremendous opportunity and potential as any deep-water port would… they need to get in that game more and more. I’m not convinced that it could not become a major technology region.

  4. Breckinridge Avatar
    Breckinridge

    Gee, I’m glad Fairfax County can get a low interest rate on borrowed money but the federal shutdown is a huge hit to the national, state and regional economies. At the end of it federal workers will probably get paid, but they will be paid for extended vacations where no actual work got done. You are kidding yourself Jim if you see a silver lining anywhere.

    We are addicted to debt. We are addicted to spending more than we are willing to pay for, and leaving the bills for the next generation. We better maintain our spending on national defense, but I an unconvinced we spend all of that money well. Right now I’m in a pox on all their houses mood and if this lasts much longer it will be bad news for incumbents in both parties.

    The Affordable Care Act is the most intrusive government power grab over the economy since the National Recovery Administration, and it will be just as big or a far bigger disaster. But it passed. It was upheld by a GOP-appointed Chief Justice. It is a copy of a plan implemented by the GOP standard bearer in his own state, and when the GOP made it an issue in 2012 Obama won again. Cuccinelli is making it the centerpiece of his campaign and hasn’t led in a published poll since July.

    This is insane — using the definition of doing the same thing and expecting a different result. There will not be a different result. Another shellacking is coming.

    1. Don’t get me wrong — that post about NoVa local government creditworthiness was purely for local consumption. The macro debt situation is terrible — I totally agree with you. If you’re faltering in your conviction that Boomergeddon is coming, just read Niall Ferguson’s op-ed piece in the WSJ today.

    2. I’m just curious here.

      I’m pretty sure Breckinridge knows how much we spend on DOD + national defense.

      Do you know how much will be spent on ObamaCare and where the money to fund it actually comes from?

      do you think Obamacare is … a big percent of total spending on DOD?

      what would you say? 5, 10, 50%?

      1. Breckinridge Avatar
        Breckinridge

        Did anybody accurately predict the cost of Medicaid and Medicare when they passed? If those are budget busters today looking at the next 40 years (and the Left won’t even talk about Diet COLA, a reasonable fix), why won’t a huge expansion of federal health spending just bring the cliff a bit closer? The question is not what it costs in the first decade but what it will cost when my grandchild is trying to raise a family.

        I’m not defending all defense spending, but I just posted on another sting some comments about the 30 years war we’ve been fighting with the Islamic world and only a fool thinks we can disarm today. Even the Current Occupant doesn’t argue that. It’s the other party’s fools who are pushing sequester on DoD.

  5. so does anyone know how much ObamaCare will cost in the budget?

    bonus question #1 : does anyone know how much tax-free employer-provided health insurance – costs the budget?

    bonus question #2: who knows how much Medicare costs the budget?

    If we are going to criticize ObamaCare – and it does deserve criticism – shouldn’t we know what the heck we are talking about and not just parrot what we’ve heard even when we really don’t even know what the truth is?

    Why don’t we all – those of us who favor, those of us who oppose, and those of us who are not sure – agree to develop some facts?

    there’re not hard to find….. if you really want to find them.

    1. Breckinridge Avatar
      Breckinridge

      Yes, the privately-managed health care system is huge and was not efficient, laying the groundwork for this federal expansion. The problems were real. The costs were out of control. I just happen to think that the cure chosen by the Congress and Obama is going to make things worse. But I also think it is the law of the land, duly reviewed by the courts, and a suicidal Last Stand led by George Armstrong Cruz has me shaking my head.

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