Northam’s Ludicrous Beach Rules

by Kerry Dougherty

It’s beginning to look like something other than a concern for public health lurks behind Governor Ralph Northam’s irrational decision to keep the beaches closed indefinitely.

Although there is much we don’t know about COVID-19, study after study — from Australia to Stanford to Connecticut — indicates that while the virus is highly contagious, the chances of being infected while outside is considerably smaller than contracting it indoors.

Beyond that, you don’t need a medical degree to know that the best human defense against any virus is a healthy immune system. Vitamin D — what we used to call “the sunshine vitamin” — plays a critical part in keeping us healthy enough to ward off pathogens.

Yet, beginning Friday Virginians will be able to go to a hair stylist or a barber, they’ll be able to dine outdoors in cafes and they’ll be able to exercise and fish on the beaches. They will not, however, be allowed to SIT on the beaches, to relax and soak up the sun.

That means our hotels will remain virtually empty, because no one wants to visit a beach town and be required to do jumping jacks to be allowed on the sand.

If Northam has a study showing that sitting in a beach chair makes people more susceptible to the coronavirus than if they’re standing or fishing, he needs to make it public.

Otherwise he needs to end his illogical prohibition against sitting on the beach.

Yet, at his Friday press conference, Northam stubbornly stuck with his rule and resorted to gibberish to explain it.

“The bottom line is consumers,” the governor said. “They need to feel comfortable that when they go back out to the beach whether when they grab hold of a handrail, or go down the steps, or are sitting with others or up on the Boardwalk, they need to feel comfortable that they are going to be safe.”

Seriously?

Surely Northam is aware there are some members of our society who are so consumed with fear of this virus that they will NEVER feel safe in public. Not until a vaccine is here and they’ve gotten their dose.

I get it. Some of these people are truly at risk if they catch COVID-19. Those folks ought to stay indoors until that happens.

I hope they don’t get rickets.

But waiting until everyone feels “comfortable” is not practical. I hesitate to point this out, but not everyone is going to feel comfortable going to a barber shop this week, yet Northam’s opening those.

Consumers will be free to use their common sense when deciding if they want to get a haircut. If they feel it’s too risky, they won’t. Haircuts are not mandatory.

Why not allow folks who want to read a book on the beach the same freedom of choice?

It’s called personal responsibility.

Beyond that, the most recent studies on the effects of UV light on the coronavirus would seem to indicate that picking up this disease from a handrail baking in the sun are minimal.

Don’t take my word for it, this is from The Washington Post:

When the airborne virus at temperatures between 70 and 75 degrees is exposed to sunlight, its half-life decreases from around 60 minutes before exposure to 1.5 minutes after…

William Bryan, the acting undersecretary for science and technology at DHS, summarized it this way: “Within the conditions we’ve tested to date, the virus in droplets of saliva survives best in indoors and dry conditions. … The virus dies quickest in the presence of direct sunlight.”

Several other studies suggest sunlight kills the coronavirus effectively…

Ultraviolet light was strongly associated with lower covid-19 growth rates, according to researchers at the University of Connecticut. Their paper, published last week, says the virus probably will “decrease temporarily during summer, rebound by autumn and peak next winter.”

  • Columbia University researchers found that for two other types of coronaviruses, low levels of ultraviolet light in public locations would kill 90 percent of the virus in eight minutes, 95 percent in 11 minutes and 99 percent in 16 minutes. “As all human coronaviruses have similar genomic size, a key determinant of radiation sensitivity, it is realistic to expect that far-UVC light will show comparable inactivation efficiency against other human coronaviruses, including SARS-CoV-2,” they wrote.

The average May high temperature in Virginia Beach is 75.4 degrees, in June it’s 84, July 87, August 86, September 81 and October is 70. Chances any virus lingering on the handrails in those sizzling temperatures under bright sunshine will be fried.

Of course, if beachgoers are afraid, they should not touch them. Or better yet, they should avoid the beach.

When I talked to Mayor Bobby Dyer last week he said city officials estimate that Virginia Beach had already lost roughly $67 million in taxes.

If Northam’s arbitrary, anti-science beach shutdown is allowed to continue through Memorial Day, the economic results for the city will be catastrophic.

What will Virginia Beach look like when even more revenue dries up? It’s not far-fetched to think that some teachers and lots of city workers will lose their jobs, flood mitigation will be pushed back and city services will be slashed. Some parks, libraries and rec centers may have to close, not because of the virus but because there won’t be money to pay employees.

All of this, because Virginia’s paternalistic governor worries that some folks may not “feel comfortable” clutching the handrails leading to the beaches.


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47 responses to “Northam’s Ludicrous Beach Rules”

  1. My (unwelcome) advice to Governor Northam: Worry less about people on the beaches and worry more about old people trapped in nursing homes.

    1. Reed Fawell 3rd Avatar
      Reed Fawell 3rd

      But nursing homes are a real problem requiring real and hard solutions. Good luck with that from this Virginia Governor.

    2. Nancy_Naive Avatar
      Nancy_Naive

      Keeping the beaches closed keeps beach rentals closed. One has to wonder just how many beach properties Kerry owns. You should ask her if she or her family members own and rent property with beach access.

      Yes, yes, I know. Just because it’s self-serving doesn’t mean it’s also not right, but the obsession makes one wonder.

    3. WeirdScience Avatar
      WeirdScience

      The Governor’s “approach is grounded in science and data” per his website.

      In Virginia, fishing is allowed; In NC, fishing is not allowed. I speak in solidarity with Larry, Nancy & Peter, that the science is clear! Also, it’s George Bush’s fault. Because science!

  2. kls59 Avatar

    ‘No brainer’ Solution: carry a fishing pole and stick it in the sand beside your chair — easy pezy!!!!!!

    Some enterprising young people should buy a bunch of $5 poles and sell on the board walk……..

    1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
      Nancy_Naive

      Don’t forget your saltwater license…

  3. Steve Haner Avatar
    Steve Haner

    Just as sunlight slows this bug, likewise humidity. Beach air is about as humid as it gets. Agreed, this is nuts.

  4. PackerFan Avatar
    PackerFan

    Just out of curiosity, is the VA Beach City Council controlled by D’s or R’s?

  5. Top-GUN Avatar
    Top-GUN

    To Repeat…
    An emergency was declared with the concern being that our health care system would be overwhelmed.
    Lock down and all the PPE that goes with it was to slow the Rate of increase of the virus.
    Mission accomplished.
    The guv says ” they need to feel comfortable that they are going to be safe.” Really, is it a function of government to make us Feel safe and secure???
    And to repeat again, there is a lot of happy talk about a vaccine, well after 35 or so years of research we still don’t have a vaccine for HIV..
    Bottom line, everyone is going to get it..
    So it’s time to lift this lockdown…

    1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
      Nancy_Naive

      ” in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity”

      So, yes. It is a function of the government.

    2. Reed Fawell 3rd Avatar
      Reed Fawell 3rd

      Virginia Declaration of Order and Safety

      WHEREAS,
      In order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity,

      NOW THEREFORE, We, the HIGH POTENTATES of Government of the Commonwealth of Virginia, for good and valuable consideration, including cash from our crony allies, do hereby Declare:

      1/ the Lock Down of Virginia’s private, free, and independent enterprise sector, including all its parts, heretofore operating in Commonwealth of Virginia, and

      2/ the Quarantine all private Virginia citizens in their homes 24/7, save only those on official Commonwealth business as we direct, until further notice and instruction from us, the Potentates, and,

      3/ that all such private sector enterprises and citizens shall thereafter remain so locked down, and quarantined per this order, until such time and notice as we, the Potentates, lift this lock down and quarantine, in strict stages and degrees, thus releasing such enterprises and citizens to operate outside their homes and in their businesses, all in strict accordance with our instructions and mandates, under penalty of law, civil and criminal, as we the Potentates dictate, and,

      4/ The ruling government in power in Commonwealth of Virginia, including without limitations, all its potentates, high officers, agents, departments and agencies, operations, functionaries, and attendant allies, including funders and janissaries, are now and shall not be subject to this Declaration, unless we declare otherwise.

      IN WITNESS WHEREOF,
      The Honorable Ralph Northam, Governor

  6. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    Granted, the Governor’s reason (virus on the handrails) was very weak. But, has Kerry seen those pictures of California beaches after they were temporarily opened up? That is probably what Northam was thinking about?

    Oh, I have some news for Kerry. The beach is not the only place that one can get sunshine and vitamin D. I got a good dose in my front yard yesterday afternoon.

    1. Acbar Avatar

      Exactly — the Guv chose his words poorly, but this is plainly about the crowds that have gathered on beaches elsewhere. That said, the arguments against gatherings generally, and for distancing to combat them, are plainly weaker when the gatherings are outdoors. On the relative scale of such things, are unrestricted public gatherings outdoors as risky to their participants as working in an office or restaurant? Are they even risky to any measurable extent? My sense is that a large part of the hostile reaction to those early photos of carousing young people on Florida beaches was the gut reaction that “if we responsible folk have to sacrifice then those young people had better act like it too” — without any attempt to parse out the different degrees of risk.

  7. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    Odd that most of the elected officials in NOVA wrote the guv saying it’s too soon to open. What do they know?

    1. That due to a greater concentration of nursing homes as well as of residents in very high density living arrangements, they experience a greater impact from Covid. The signatories very much don’t want to be on the political hook for maintaining economic restrictions on people not interacting with with nursing homes or those of our neighbors whose living arrangements render them high risk, so they’d like Northam to make the issue go away by telling them what to do.

    2. John Harvie Avatar
      John Harvie

      What do elected officials in NOVA know? Nothing.

      After having lived in NOVA for about 25 years, Peter, I can attest they have no real beaches other than Potomac River National Harbor mud flats on the MD side.

  8. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    The problem is not so much with the beaches as it is what do people do
    on their way to and from the beach?

    Like restrooms and other places they would congregate?

    and the nursing home thing – it’s a distraction.

    How many people who are NOT in nursing homes but ARE “older” and also have health conditions are already working right now … buying food, have doctor appointments, going to drug stores, etc?

  9. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    Dumb idea, but I wonder how many folks would WILLINGLY get infected then isolate so they can “move on”

    For the folks that did get infected and did recover… it’s got to be a good feeling, eh?

    1. I’ve been saying I’d like to get it right now, while healthy and not working and have caregiver not working. And if I needed health care, I’d likely be to get care as system has room for me now—not confident that it will in, say, Oct or Nov.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        Seems like that would be the Ultimate in “defiance”, e.g. using social media to promote “get infected” parties…

        no?

        I mean, heckfire, put your money where your mouth is, no?

        1. All I said was that for me, personally, it might make sense to get it now and be done with it. I don’t know anyone who could expose me to the virus. And while I’m not taking a public advocacy stance, the flattened curve, keeping volume of cases under the threshold of available hospital resources, won’t work if the cases are all loaded at the back end of the pandemic.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            If somone on social media said they tested positive and would sell you spending time with them so you could catch it, would you?

            on the “back end”… don’t you think that right now, we continue to have cases…. and no worries about a “back end” type problem?

            Looks like there is no worries about us shutting down the virus such that it defers all infections to later on.. no?

  10. Problem with Northam’s beach policy is that it lacks logic and any fine tuning which he seems to be applying to more hazardous settings. People will push back when policies don’t make sense. There are no rails or steps to any of the beaches I use in Va Beach; only a few spots in the resort area have those. I live on the beach and saw people ignoring the letter of the law this weekend, though what they were doing (sitting with no more than 4 who looked like they might live together e.g. family) was less hazardous than grocery trips or dining on a patio of a restaurant. If public restrooms are the issue, then they are equally dangerous. Let people go to the beach, no congregating with people you are not living with at home, maintain 6’, heck, include mask requirement. As for enforcement, easy for police patrols to eyeball groups of more than a few, break them up. What I saw in hose photos of Florida & California beaches looked like people mostly walking in pairs or 3s, with distance between those who were sitting. It’s easy for photos to cause loss of space perspective.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      @lift – how do things like rest rooms work at the beaches right now?

      1. John Harvie Avatar
        John Harvie

        Can’t wait for responses to this one…

        1. Reed Fawell 3rd Avatar
          Reed Fawell 3rd

          LOL

      2. There are no restrooms at Va Beach beaches. There are some port-a-potties in the resort area. As for food and drink, none of that is available directly on the beach. You have to leave the beach for restaurants and bars which Northam now deems safer than open stretches of sand and water.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          is it reasonable to think people will visit the breaches and not want a restroom? What will they do without restrooms?

          And would you go into a porta-pottie where there was a line of people waiting?

          are people thinking this through or is it really just more right wing blather?

          1. They’ll do whatever they do every other time they go to the beach, probably go in the water?

    2. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      …….. and the restrooms? Has anyone reading here been to the beach and needed to visit a restroom before or after?

      When people go to the beach, TYPICALLY, they’re ALSO expecting to be able to visit restrooms and then get something to drink or eat , etc…

      How many people drive to the beach, spend time there, then turn around and go straight home?

  11. Nancy_Naive Avatar
    Nancy_Naive

    “That means our hotels will remain virtually empty, because no one wants to visit a beach town and be required to do jumping jacks to be allowed on the sand.”

    And, how many of them want to be intubalated 500 miles from home?

    How many 10s of 1000s of tourons visit VB in a week? How many hospital beds and ICU beds are available in the 6-city area? Suppose, just for the fun of it, there’s a major outbreak in, oh, say a dozen or two of the big hotels, are you going just say, “Drive home”?

    1. Wouldn’t that make hotels the problem? And why are “my” hotels riskier than “your” hotels?

      1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
        Nancy_Naive

        More people?

        Yes, hotels are a problem. Legionnaires, anyone?

        So, open the beachs to sun worshippers and have an outbreak, what happens to the rest of the season? Next season?

        https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/14/hong-kong-hotel-hosted-super-spreader-in-the-2003-sars-outbreak.html

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          People want to do it.. What are you gonna do? It’s Darwin and in a way… it’s maybe the way things ought to work anyhow…….. eh?

          1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
            Nancy_Naive

            I shall watch the Florida obits. Might pick up a cheap house.

        2. Then how come hotels haven’t been forced to close? I’m pretty sure that we all understand that a pandemic has an origin, determinable or not, and we understand its insidious spread. I am among the most conscientious observers of safety practice in this stay-at-home season that I know (is everyone cleaning their keys, their steering wheels, their eyeglasses, credit cards?) and am appalled by people who disregard the rather easy measures we can each adopt for community safety. But America is not Italy nor Asia and resentment will only rise if government is inconsistent or too far-reaching in its policy. I am not in the Open Up Everything camp, and beach use is a detail amid bigger concerns for many, but Northam has opened himself to criticism on this.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            I would suspect that the part of motels that are for business travel are the reason – like the airlines, no?

            Lift – you don’t sound like someone who would “congregate”, correct?

            I’m of the view that the Govs (not just Northam) have held off as long as they could and now feel forced to open and it’s understood to be a risk and a possibility that the virus will run rampant.

            We will find out in a week or two.

          2. Nancy_Naive Avatar
            Nancy_Naive

            Don’t have to close the VB resort hotels if the reason to occupy them, i.e., the beach, is closed. Other than that, hotels and motels provide shelter, and closing shelters is never a good idea.

            If the State opens the beaches to all activities, the hotels will fill with people from all over the nation, say, NYC. Bet the VB city council would like that… they’ve yet to give consideration to the citizens over tourons.

            But in addition, the military is a large component of SEVA. Anything that places the military at a higher risk of infection, places the defense of the nation at risk.

            Do you want to leave us defenseless in the face of a global calamity? You have ask yourself one question, “Do I feel lucky today?” Well, do ya?

  12. Nancy_Naive Avatar
    Nancy_Naive

    So Kerry, just how much money are you losing on your Sandbridge rental property? Oooh, too specific, your beach rental property wherever it is? Or your family members property?

  13. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    John harvie. I have lived in both tidewater and coastal north carolina. The water will be too cold for swimming for at least a few more weeks. I cannot see the urgency. Also john, i have also lived in Bethesda and in downtown dc

  14. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    Oh and john harvie, just to slam the door on patronization a little more, i am an amateur certified SCUBA diver and can tell you from experience that the offshore water tends to get a lot warmer just south of Hatteras.

  15. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    This is pretty much pro forma for the partisan folks on the right.

    They’re looking for issues that show a distinct partisan divide to use to attack Northam.

    There are no easy answers to some of these issues – but then that becomes fodders for the partisans.

    As Peter points out, people don’t really want to go to the beach in the traditional practice of years past where cold windy beaches with closed eateries would be no more popular than most years. Yes, this is the time for rental homes… where folks can venture out for a little while then return to the home.

    This is one of those partisan divide issues where some simply do not believe the Gov has the authority to issue these orders and even if he does, he’s abusing it.

    This is the same 20% of folks in the polls who basically do not agree writ large with the restrictions and see (what they think is) opportunity to challenge, win over others, and politically harm the Govt (which in Virginia is more about the left/right politics than the Gov who is a one term Gov).

    It’s all about the politics – not the pandemic. Most folks – that 80% understand the need for the restrictions – they may not agree 100% with each and every restriction, but they also understand that it’s a judgement call by the govt – based on science – and the motivation is to protect people.

  16. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    Larrytheg. Amazing thing if you leave hatteras or morehead city and cruise about 20 miles out or more. The ocean is a wonderful aquamarine. Visibility can be 90 feet. Fish and coral are semi tropical. You almost don’t need a wet suit. German u boat captains loved it too

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      Yes. The thing is – there are a variety of ways to essentially enjoy the outdoors without engaging in overt defiance. It’s a purposeful thing that has little or nothing to do with someone who actually wants to get outside and enjoy.

  17. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    I checked and the water temperature at va beach may 12 was 52.7 degrees. You last for maybe an hour bypassing out. What makes the narratives of these blogs daffy is how they get into pseudoscience on handrails and ignore far bigger threats. What’s the rush other than it is a GOP political priority

  18. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    There are LOTS of outdoor alternatives to the beach EVEN in places like VB.

    This is all about “protest” and defiance…

    here’s a good example:

    Armed militia helped a Michigan barbershop open, a coronavirus defiance that puts Republican lawmakers in a bind

    OWOSSO, Mich. — Armed members of the Michigan Home Guard stood outside Karl Manke’s barber shop, ready to blockade the door if police arrived. They were determined to help Manke, 77, reopen his shop Monday, in defiance of state orders, and dozens joined them, wearing Trump sweatshirts and Trump cowboy hats and waving Trump flags.

    They gathered not because they desperately needed haircuts but to rail against Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s approach to fighting the coronavirus outbreak in Michigan, one of the nation’s worst hot spots. They were channeling President Trump’s support of such protests, but some also were taking aim at the state’s Republicans, who they say have not done enough to “liberate” the state from safety measures that have ground life to a halt.

    Michelle Gregoire, a 29-year-old school bus driver from Battle Creek who is running as a Republican for a seat in the state House, waved a yellow “Don’t tread on me” flag at passing traffic. She derided Whitmer as “a tyrant.” But she also urged Republicans “to get in line and get it together.”

    The protest and others like it — including two last month that included demonstrators with swastikas, Confederate flags and some with long guns inside the capitol

  19. What does the temperature of the water at Virginia Beach have to do with anything? Kerry is talking about the right of people to go walk and sit on the beach. By your logic, Virginia Beach shouldn’t have a tourist trade because the water is too cold. But, in fact, it does have a tourist trade.

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