Norfolk Police Officer Fired for Helping Citizen Accused of a Crime

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by James C. Sherlock

I watched closely the Derrick Chauvin trial. It appeared that the judge conducted a fair trial, both the state and the defense were properly represented. Mr. Chauvin was found guilty by a jury of his peers.

As far as I personally and, more importantly, the legal system of the United States are concerned, he is guilty. There were racial aspects to that case, but they were not presented in court  The prosecution chose to let the evidence speak for itself and did not allege racism, a subjective allegation that goes to state of mind. I applaud the prosecutor for that.

That is our system and I very much respect and support it  Chauvin will appeal. I respect that too.

The same day, however, we learned that a police officer in Norfolk was fired for supporting that same legal process with a $25 donation to the defense fund of an accused. He was fired because of the racial aspects of what has been alleged, not against the officer, but against the defendant.

We should all hope that firing doesn’t stand. It puts every employee of the City of Norfolk on notice that they risk their jobs if they speak, even privately, of anything — anything at all — to which the the left objects.

The story in the Virginian-Pilot is headlined, “Norfolk fires police lieutenant who donated to accused vigilante Kyle Rittenhouse. There are two sides of the Rittenhouse case:

“Rittenhouse, who was 17 at the time, is accused of murdering two people and seriously injuring a third at a Black Lives Matter protest in Kenosha, Wisconsin, in August.”

“He’s pleaded not guilty and claimed he shot the three men in self defense.”

That too will be tried in front of a jury of young Mr. Rittenhouse’s peers. I hope the prosecutor, like the prosecutor in Chauvin’s case, will concentrate on the evidence of facts in the case. It doesn’t matter in law whether the alleged murders took place at a BLM “protest” in Kenosha or at a dance of the teacups at Disneyland.

Allegations in the cases of persons who the Left finds irredeemable, not because of the proven truth but rather the nature of the charges, have now been deemed by the government of Norfolk as unworthy of a defense. And contributing to such a defense to be firing offense, even though the charges against the defendant are unproven.

In America, it is perfectly proper, indeed praiseworthy, to support giving an accused his day in court. The Left instead wants to leave this particular type of accused to fund his own defense against the limitless resources of the state.

The lieutenant’s $25 was used to help Rittenhouse post a $2 million bail, pay his lawyers and protect his family. Attorney John Pierce signed an affidavit saying that  due to numerous death threats, “arrangements were made for the Rittenhouse family to reside at a ‘Safe House’ in an unidentified location” once bail was posted. Bail required $200,000 cash. Neither the lawyer nor the safe house were small expenses.

The City of Norfolk appears to have illegally fired the otherwise exemplary officer. His “offense” in this case was a $25 donation to a defense fund and accompanying well wishes to the accused.

We must asking ourselves when it became a firing offense to help with the defense of a citizen who is in America presumed innocent. The answer on the left is the nature of the allegations, not their proven truth.

So the lieutenant may have a reasonable claim of a violation of his First Amendment rights — that his protected speech was denied by the government of Norfolk.

I hope he sues. And gets his day in court. I may contribute to his legal fund.

Easy for me to say, however. I am retired.


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45 responses to “Norfolk Police Officer Fired for Helping Citizen Accused of a Crime”

  1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    He was not fired for donating to the defense fund or for expressing support of Rittenhouse. He was fired for using an official police department e-mail system to do those those things, which was a violation of departmental policy. I agree that he should not have been fired, but it is important to keep in mind the grounds for firing. If he had used his own private e-mail account, he would not, could not, have been fired.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      You and I disagree as to why he was fired.

      But the federal constitution trumps the policies of the Norfolk PD. The Chief of the Department showed up in uniform in support of a BLM event. They can’t have it both ways. Not one policy for the Chief supporting the BLM cause and another for a Lieutenant supporting the defense of an accused person. A judge will tell them so.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        The Chief’s job description includes handling political situations.

        1. Matt Adams Avatar
          Matt Adams

          No it doesn’t. The are subject to the same rules and regs as the rank and file. They aren’t Politicians.

          1. I did not realize the Simi Valley, California chief of police was in question here.

          2. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            I need only show one, any one, there are 1000s out there. Have at.

          3. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            “Nancy Naive Keydet • 4 minutes ago
            I need only show one, any one, there are 1000s out there. Have at.”

            That’s false, as per usual you can’t seem to prove your point.

            So how’s about you just zip it skippy.

          4. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            STFU.

          5. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            “Nancy Naive Matt Adams • 9 minutes ago
            STFU.”

            That’s cute, I love when you lash out irrationally like the spoiled little child you’ve always been.

            If you’re going to make statements you cannot back up, be prepared to be berated for them.

            It appears you don’t read much or well, as nothing contained in I-6 would be applicable to the situation which resulted in the Officers termination.

            Section I-12 is applicable and that references 15.2-1512.2 Code of VA.

            However, that still has nothing to do with your claim that Police Chief’s are required to deal with political situations.

          6. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            So we are going with the “you can’t read defense”.

            None of that would be applicable, making a donation doesn’t fit that at all.

          7. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            In your opinion.
            associate — be invovled with, allow oneself to be connected with or seen to be supportive of.

          8. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            No, in the clear reading of the verbiage. Which is culminated with the phrasing it requires physical contact.

            Providing for a defense fund doesn’t mean the legal definition of any of those terms.

            Furthermore, this is merely a deflection from your previous statement saying the Chief’s job is this, it’s not.

          9. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Where does it say “physical”? It doesn’t Matt. It says “associate”. That could include sending cigarettes, chewing gum, tweeting with, or being a pen pal. It would also include paying his expenses.

            Aw, Matt, you can do better than that. Let your imagination run free.

          10. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            The following text in the last sentence:

            If an investigation reveals that an officer was in the company of a convicted felon, apart from the three exceptions listed, the officer should be prepared to explain the circumstances of the incident under investigation.

            None of what you stated would fit a legal standard, it just your playing CYA.

            Paying for expenses is not contributing a legal defense fund.

            As I’ve stated before, the Officer was a bonehead to do it via his work computer, but he did so believing it would be anonymous (you know how you comment on here). He was also a bonehead to use the verbiage he did, however isn’t going to be a terminating offense (even by their own manuals standards).

            Finally, those three paragraphs are about physical contact with criminals, they aren’t about being pen pals.

          11. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            There are two sentences of importance. The first involves suspected persons, and the last involving “convicted felons”.

            The first is germane. The second, because of the word “convicted” is not.

            Oh wait, that didn’t fit your belief. You are dense. Just plain dense.

          12. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Umm, no.

            “Oh wait, that didn’t fit your belief. You are dense. Just plain dense.”

            Oh the utter irony, that in a nutshell indicates every single comment you make.

            I also find it humorous that you’re accusing someone else of that, when you can’t admit your own errors. Instead you lash our and complain about someone having more knowledge than yourself.

            Oh and still waiting for you to prove your statement about the Chief’s roles and responsibilities.

          13. Gotcha. I’m sure a job description for police chief in Cuba or Venezuela would have helped you avoid that “stretch.”

          14. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            The chief of a PD in the US includes communications. He speaks for the dept. There are many such, Simi was just first up on the list, but here, this is Norfolk’s code of conduct for cops. Thoughout there are references to the chief assigning, authorizing, and permitting. If he can delegate, he may also do.

            https://www.norfolk.gov/DocumentCenter/View/62179/Police-Officers-Manual

            BTW, someplace around sec 6 is yet another resaon to fire the officer.

          15. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Umm, no. Not even with a stretch.

            Edit: As Keydet pointed out Norfolk, VA isn’t Simi Valley, CA.

            It’s cute when you grasp for straws when you’re found lying or in error.

      2. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
        Dick Hall-Sizemore

        In my comment to Kerry’s post, I said that Boone should not have participated in the BLM rally in his uniform. As for the judge, it will depend on what the departmental policy is.

  2. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Gee, maybe if you weren’t white?

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      If you mean would I still respect innocent until proven guilty, the right to a fair trial, the role of the judicial branch as an independent part of our government and the First Amendment, then my answer is yes because I am an American, as is every other citizen of whatever race or ethnicity.

      How about you, “Nancy”, don’t you hold all of those things dear?

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        No. I try not to wrap myself in a flag.

        Hey, here’s an idea. Put on your dress blues, even retired officers can on certain circumstances, and attend a Chase for Governor rally.

      2. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        No. I try not to wrap myself in a flag.

        Hey, here’s an idea. Put on your dress blues, even retired officers can on certain circumstances, and attend a Chase for Governor rally.

        1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          As to not wrapping yourself in the flag, mission accomplished.

          I support Glenn Youngkin. I’ve know him since he was a kid, and he will be a terrific Governor.

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Okay, but you know the point. Professional ethics supercede the 1st Amendment. Ask Bacon what his employers thought about blurred lines between journalists and politics.

            Jingoism, you drip with it.

        2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          Nancy, I have avoided mentioning it for a year, but you fascination with my military service exceeds my own. Should I be concerned?

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            It’s conditioning. It explains more about you.

        3. Matt Adams Avatar
          Matt Adams

          “even retired officers can on certain circumstances, and attend a Chase for Governor rally.”

          No, that would be a violation.

          He could be recalled for service and face punishment. The uniform despite how others use it, is not now nor is it ever for political purposes.

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Yes, Matt, that was the point. The cop was fired for that reason — use of his official accounts for political purposes, ya know, his work computer.

          2. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            There is a stark difference between someone subject to the UCMJ and what a City Employee is subject.

            One is an ethical question and subject to employment standards the other is Law.

            The use of the work computer to donate is not a problem, the use of his work e-mail and making the statements he made is the problem.

          3. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            So, ask your boss about posting comments on conservative blogs.

          4. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Why would I ask my boss?

            Should you ask your partners if it’s okay for you to be a bigot and post vitriol?

  3. Charlie Potatoe Avatar
    Charlie Potatoe

    You may have followed the Chauvin Trial closely, but apparently not close enough to see that the Defense arguably showed that there was “not proof beyond a reasonable doubt” regarding some or all of the charges and that a non-intimidated Jury would take more than a few hours to consider this evidence in the absence of lynch mob threats.

    Alan Dershowitz explains:
    “What was done to George Floyd by Officer Chauvin was inexcusable, morally. But the verdict is very questionable, because of the outside influences of people like Al Sharpton, and people like Maxine Waters. Their threats and intimidation, and hanging the sword of Damocles over the jury, and basically saying if you don’t convict on the murder charge, on all the charges, the cities will burn, the country will be destroyed, seeped into the jury room because the judge made a terrible mistake by not sequestering the jury. So the judge himself said, this case may be reversed on appeal. And I think it might reversed on appeal. I think it should be reversed on appeal. I think the American Civil Liberties Union, which would be all over this case if it weren’t a racially-charged case, all Americans who care about due process and liberty should be concerned that the jury verdict may have been influenced by, if not the thumb, maybe even the elbow of the outside pressures, the fears, the threats. Every juror in that room knew about those threats. And when they sit and deliberate, they have to be saying to themselves, consciously or unconsciously, if I were to render a verdict other than a murder verdict, what the consequences will be, for me, and my family, my friends, my business. That should never, ever, be llowed to seep into a jury room. So I have no real confidence that this verdict — which may be correct in some ways — but I have no confidence that this verdict was produced by due process and the rule of law, rather than the influence of the crowd.”

    So much for Due Process and Justice.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      The greatest outside influence on the verdict was that a child could see that Chauvin was needlessly endangering his victim’s life. In fact a 9-year old who begged him to stop.

    2. John Martin Avatar
      John Martin

      “he Defense arguably showed that there was “not proof beyond a reasonable doubt” regarding some or all of the charges and that a non-intimidated Jury would take more than a few hours to consider this evidence in the absence of lynch mob threats.”

      Are you out of your fucking goddamned mind? Jesus Christ.

      1. Charlie Potatoe Avatar
        Charlie Potatoe

        No, I spent time listening to and reading about Chauvin’s Defense which produced facts and made arguments that contracted the Prosecution’s case.

        Heather Mac Donald explains:

        “Contrary to the prosecution’s assertions, this was not an entirely open-and-shut case. The defense had at least arguably raised reasonable doubt about whether Floyd died of a Fentanyl overdose, aggravated by his preexisting heart disease and the stress of the arrest, and about Chauvin’s requisite intent to cause serious bodily harm. Floyd had been complaining about not being able to breathe before he was put face-down on the ground under Chauvin’s knee. The medical examiner had said that had Floyd been found dead at home in the same condition, the cause of death would have been identified as a drug overdose.”

      2. Warning: No profanity. You are welcome to contribute your views and engage in civil dialogue. You are not welcome to use profanity. If you do so again, you will be blocked from this blog.

        I would ask readers to notify me of other examples of profane expression. I want to apply this rule equally to all.

    3. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      That is your opinion and you have a right to it.

      I agree with Dershowitz’ general point, but I don’t have enough information to know if the Chauvin jury was tainted by it. I believe the judge himself wishes he had sequestered the jury. But for the moment, Chauvin has been found guilty. We have to respect that unless and until it is overturned.

      If Dershowitz is right, the judgment will be thrown out on appeal.

      As I wrote, I support the appeal – any well grounded appeal – whether I like the appellee or not.

      But I don’t find it possible to claim to support the justice system only when I agree with the outcome, especially while appeals are imminent. Let the system work.

  4. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    BTW, “innocent until proven guilty” only applies to a dozen people. For example, think how stupid that concept is if applied to the prosecutor. Wow, talk about a violation of professional ethics, not just the law, were the prosecutor presume that the defendant were innocent and then prosecute him.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      A completely strange reply. That is the prosecutors role in the judicial system. It is the jurors who are to presume innocence.

      I thought it not that hard a concept to grasp, but I neglected to consider the bull goose looney.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Only the jury is bound to the presumption. That was the dozen of which I spoke.

        Just a preemptive to your eventual lionizations.

  5. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    In the 90s, most probably a part of that Law and Order Act that Republicans use to beat Democrats over the head, there was a federal mandate that the States were to gather and maintain records of police use of deadly force, and to report that to the CDC. None did, none do. So much for unfunded mandates.

    So we are reduced to gathering from papers and hoping that’s all of them.

    But what is easy to find are “Cops kill dogs” articles. Psychos practice on animals. For example, one Buffalo officer killed 28 dogs in a year. More than all of the NYPD. Makes ya go, “hmmm”.

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