Money Alone Won’t Solve Teacher Shortage

by James A. Bacon

Virginia, like other states, is facing a teacher shortage. The debate over how to reverse the thinning of the ranks has been mind-bogglingly superficial. As a consequence, there is little prospect of solving it.

The root of the problem is that the Virginia Education Association (VEA) and its ideological allies in the mainstream media define the problem as insufficient pay — a problem that can be addressed only by boosting teacher salaries. VEA rarely if ever makes an issue of poor working conditions.

Thus, we read in the Virginia Mercury that Virginia teacher pay “gets a boost in budget, but it’s still projected to fall short of national average.” The two-year budget signed last week includes $540 million for 3% salary increases each year. Predictably, the VEA says it’s not enough to keep Virginia salaries competitive.

The article delves into a discussion of methodological differences between the VEA and the Youngkin administration on how to calculate average teacher pay so it can be comparable across the 50 states.

Here’s what the arcane budget debate ignores: the teacher shortage in Virginia isn’t caused by teachers picking up and relocating to states with higher pay. It’s caused by teachers dropping out of the profession because they think their jobs suck.

Consider this article from the Fredericksburg Advance (by way of The Republican Standard):

Gloria Joan Jackson, a behavioral interventionist with Spotsylvania County Public Schools, has been charged with one count of misdemeanor assault and battery for striking a 6-year-old male student with a shoe. The child was uninjured.

Maybe Jackson behaved in a manner that warrants punishment, maybe she didn’t. There’s not enough information to make a judgment. But I’m inclined to be sympathetic.

The Fredericksburg Advance had few details about the incident that triggered the charges but it did describe a different incident involving Jackson that occurred in 2017. 

A student accused Jackson, whom he described as someone who helps him when he gets upset, of physically assaulting him. He told police that Jackson told him, “Get over here or I’m going to get you,” then pushed desks into him and grabbed him by the neck. The student, whose age was not identified, had no marks and did not want to be photographed.

Jackson had a different story, according to the Fredericksburg Advance. She said the student was running around the room and pulling papers off the wall. She got the students out of the classroom and tried to calm him down. The student began hitting and punching her in the chest. She admitted to grabbing him by his shirt to stop him. An assistant principal stepped in and pulled the student away.

The student was suspended for three days for hitting/punching Jackson. The case was closed after investigators found no evidence to support any criminal charges against her.

One reaction might be to say maybe Jackson got off the first time, but she was back in trouble seven years later; there seems to be a pattern of mistreating students.

Yeah, that’s one way of looking at it. Here’s another: there’s a pattern of out-of-control students disrupting classrooms and acting violently. Given the fact that she deals with problem students, it’s a miracle that Jackson has been the subject of investigations only twice.

I have no idea what the 73-year-old Jackson thinks about all this, but here’s one plausible reaction: classrooms are out of control. The elementary school student in the 2017 incident wasn’t punished for running around the room and pulling papers off the wall. He was given a three-day suspension only after assaulting her. Not only did Jackson have to cope with disruptive behavior in the classroom, she had to endure a formal investigation in 2017 for her actions. Now she’s going through a second investigation. Who would blame her for calling it quits?

Let it be said that throwing a shoe at a student does not sound like an appropriate way to deal with a disruptive pupil. But then, we have no idea what the extenuating circumstances are.

More to the point, teachers are motivated to enter the profession because they want to teach students who are willing to learn, not to become enforcers of classroom discipline, a role that can land them in trouble if, among dozens of challenging encounters, they do the wrong thing once.

Of course, the VEA has little interest in highlighting discipline problems — unless it’s to argue for hiring more school counselors. The VEA shares authorship of the lax, touchy-feely Social-Emotional Learning approach to discipline that has contributed to the breakdown of order. To the VEA, more money is the solution to every issue.

Paying teachers more won’t hurt recruitment and retention — everyone likes more money. But it is folly to think that replenishing the ranks of Virginia’s teacher corps is achievable until working conditions improve.


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35 responses to “Money Alone Won’t Solve Teacher Shortage”

  1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    “It’s caused by teachers dropping out of the profession because they think their jobs suck.”

    Which you proceed to “prove” not through empirical data of any sort but through one anecdotal case for which you concede: “ There’s not enough information to make a judgment”. 🤷‍♂️

  2. Teddy007 Avatar
    Teddy007

    The iron rule of education is one can either have every student go through the entire system or can have high standards. One cannot have both. To improve the working conditions, the system would have to be willing to suspend and expel a large number of students. That means fewer teacher jobs but better working conditions.

    1. Lefty665 Avatar
      Lefty665

      Sigh, you don’t learn. We’ve been through this before.

      In public education ALL kids, not just the “good” ones have the right to an education. You cannot just suspend or expel large (or small) numbers of students because it is not convenient to deal with them. We also have to provide for their education.

      Sometimes that will be a separate setting, others will thrive with in school supports. Both are required by law as appropriate. It is a requirement of the school system to identify and apply appropriate interventions.

      1. Teddy007 Avatar
        Teddy007

        First, a public education is not a civil right as was shown back in the 1950’s. No where in the Constitution is education mentioned. In addition, why would a civil right stop at 12th grade or being 19 years old?
        If one lets the troublemakers, anti-learners, or the most defiant stay in the classroom, the working conditions will be horrible. Playing hot potato with the worst students does not make the working conditions better for everyone but just concentrates the bad working conditions into as few places as possible.

        1. Lefty665 Avatar
          Lefty665

          It is really very simple, due process and equal protection of the laws. Our laws require pubic education. That means that all students are guaranteed equal protection and due process. You clearly do not understand special education or segregated settings that implement equal protection any better than you do the Constitution. Perhaps you were not paying attention in class. Our public education laws mandate secondary education through high school. The limit prescribed by law for public education is 12th grade or 21 years old. That also is a very simple concept.

          1. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            There is no federal law that requires public education. Look it up. Some states have laws and even state constitutional provisions about education but that is not federal. Once in school, students are guaranteed equal protection and due process but not in the legal sense of the term. And the rules are enforced by the federal government supplying money. If a state turned down federal money, there would be no federal requirements. See the 1950’s when states like Virginia shut down their public schools.
            If one wants to be taken seriously, please link to the provision in the Constitution that requires public education from K-12 grade but not 13th grade. Try harder.

          2. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Equal protection and due process clauses of the Constitution apply to state and local government just like Federal.

            “Once in school, students are guaranteed equal protection and due process but not in the legal sense of the term.” What pray tell are guarantees of equal protection and due process if not in the legal sense of the terms?

            Our laws prescribe the limits of public education. It is really very simple. Due process and equal protection in the Constitution, individual public functions, like education, are prescribed by laws at the Federal, State and Local levels. Education is mostly, but not exclusively, a state legislative product.

          3. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            Still wanting for that part of the U.S. constitution that addresses education.

          4. Marty Chapman Avatar
            Marty Chapman

            Teddy, the U.S. Constitution is a remarkably concise document. State Constitutions tend to be a good deal more expansive. In Virginia, a free public education in elementary and high school is guaranteed by the State Constitution. I expect this right can be enforced broadly by State Courts and more narrowly by Federal Courts.

          5. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            Still waiting. And the guarantee for high school relies on how one defines secondary education. Does not mean the school systems have to have alternative high schools that might not be high quality.? Or adult education programs? And what part of the state constitution means that schools do not have to call law enforcement when a student assaults a fellow student or an employee of the school system.
            A high quality education would mean a safe place to go to school and, under balancing, that could mean expelling dangerous students.

          6. Marty Chapman Avatar
            Marty Chapman

            Teddy, what are you waiting for?

          7. Marty Chapman Avatar
            Marty Chapman

            Teddy, what are you waiting for?

        2. Marty Chapman Avatar
          Marty Chapman

          Constitution of Virgnia
          “Article VIII. Education
          Section 1. Public schools of high quality to be maintained
          The General Assembly shall provide for a system of free public elementary and secondary schools for all children of school age throughout the Commonwealth, and shall seek to ensure that an educational program of high quality is established and continually maintained.”

          That seems clear and binding in VA.

          1. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Thank you, and here’s the crucial part:

            “The General Assembly shall provide for a system of free public elementary and secondary schools for all children of school age throughout the Commonwealth”

            Education, it is not just for the easy ones.

          2. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Thank you, and here’s the crucial part:

            “The General Assembly shall provide for a system of free public elementary and secondary schools for all children of school age throughout the Commonwealth”

            Education, it is not just for the easy ones.

          3. Marty Chapman Avatar
            Marty Chapman

            You are welcome. What strange bedfellows we are!

  3. Lefty665 Avatar
    Lefty665

    We have to remember that teachers who sign up for Special Ed or jobs like Behavior Interventionist, as in the anecdote above, knowingly and voluntarily take on the job of dealing with kids with severe behavioral issues. They know what they are getting into.

    Regular classroom teachers are a different story, they have not signed up for hazardous duty. It is a requirement of the school system to identify and segregate students who have special needs and issues that cannot be accommodated in a regular classroom so they can be dealt with appropriately.

    I’ve got no brief for social-emotive learning. It is a mistake to generalize an incident with a disruptive kid and a behavioral interventionist and widespread teacher attrition due to disruptive students. They are two very discrete issues.

    You may well be right that working conditions are as important as money in Virginia’s teacher shortage. But, the anecdote you used to illustrate it does not shed much light and may be misleading.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      https://www.wsj.com/tech/personal-tech/a-teacher-did-all-he-could-to-keep-kids-off-phones-hes-quitting-in-frustration-753061ca?mod=Searchresults_pos9&page=1

      Add that to the debate. Teachers having to compete with cell phones and related addictive behavior. The problem is not the kids acting up, but tuning out permanently. Perhaps add a corollary mentioning that some kids act up in order to make a viral video. The phones need to go in a bag or in the lockers.

    2. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      https://www.wsj.com/tech/personal-tech/a-teacher-did-all-he-could-to-keep-kids-off-phones-hes-quitting-in-frustration-753061ca?mod=Searchresults_pos9&page=1

      Add that to the debate. Teachers having to compete with cell phones and related addictive behavior. The problem is not the kids acting up, but tuning out permanently. Perhaps add a corollary mentioning that some kids act up in order to make a viral video. The phones need to go in a bag or in the lockers.

      1. Lefty665 Avatar
        Lefty665

        I sure agree there are a lot of issues, and in far too many ways our school systems have been slow to respond. Far as I’m concerned cell phones and unrestricted web access in class are education killers. It would not be hard for schools to lock down those distractions. It would however likely require some fortitude to stand up to parents.

        1. DJRippert Avatar
          DJRippert

          I think it would be a minority of the parents objecting. My youngest (of 5) graduates from high school this weekend. I’ve spoken to many parents along the way of getting all 5 through high school. I can’t think of any of the parents with whom I interacted who would have objected to a “no cell phones” rule. An unscientific survey for sure, but I struggle to see a majority of parents demanding that their kids get to keep their cell phones in class.

          1. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Sure hope you’re right, but there’s apparently been precious little action by school systems to restrict cell phone use. Part of what I thought I’d seen was whining by parents “needing” direct access to their kids in school.

          2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            I believe many parents like the convenience of coordinating schedules with their children via text while they are in school. I agree most would figure out another way and acquiesce quietly to policy changes. Some won’t but they are the fringe and should be ignored. It will result in more work for office staff as communications between students and parents will have to go through them. They benefit from cell phones as well and may be reticent to take that role on again.

          3. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            I believe many parents like the convenience of coordinating schedules with their children via text while they are in school. I agree most would figure out another way and acquiesce quietly to policy changes. Some won’t but they are the fringe and should be ignored. It will result in more work for office staff as communications between students and parents will have to go through them. They benefit from cell phones as well and may be reticent to take that role on again.

        2. Marty Chapman Avatar
          Marty Chapman

          Wow, I could not agree more!

      2. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
        Dick Hall-Sizemore

        I agree with Steve. There is an effective way to keep students from using cell phones in schools and some Virginia local school systems are experimentiong with it. See my earlier post on this subject. https://www.baconsrebellion.com/ban-cellphones-in-schools-it-can-be-done/

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          The thing that amazes me is apparently the laws are written such that you cannot block cell phone coverage anywhere, not even in prisons so we have people in prison getting illegal phones and using them apparently.

          Why can’t school classrooms and bathrooms be “phone free?” and other parts of the school fully functional?

          When you go to court where I leave, you leave your cell phone in your car or the guard will take it…

          Kids have a “right” to be safe in schools but that does not mean the only way is to have cell phones.

        2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          I think it may be easier to manage non-cell phone student/parent communications in smaller rural schools than larger suburban schools. That may be a factor the schools are considering.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Maybe. Modern cell phones can “talk” over an internet connection if the cellular network is not available and wi-fi is.

            Many rural schools now have cable internet. The rural schools in our county do even though cell coverage is weak.

          2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            My point is that if cell phone use is banned, communications between the students and parents during the day (some of which is unavoidable) falls on the central office staff to facilitate). That is way easier in a small school and I suspect the bigger school admins know it.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Agree but the thing about parents keeping in touch with their kids is a powerful thing that has to be overcome – even in rural schools… where parents are just as fierce about that “need”.

            The schools waited too long to confront it and now it’s become embedded in culture and will be/is perceived as taking a “right” away from kids/parents.

            I wonder, just spitballing here, if there could be a 911 parent capability – where the kid can get in touch with mom/dad but not do social media and texting with others?

            IOW, a limited ability that does address the core issue?

            An “app” could do that…

            a required app.. as a condition of keeping the cell phone.

            the app could geo-locate the kid – for the parent as well as allow less restricted use when the kid goes to designated areas defined by geo-boundaries on the app?

      3. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        totally agree but are these Virginia-specific things like JAB is claiming?

        It’s like ” Virginia’s teaching problem is not money but teaching jobs in Va suck”!

        Who actually thinks and writes this kind of stuff?

  4. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    In Fauquier County teachers are getting a 3 percent raise from the state and a 3 percent raise from the local Board of Supervisors. And all we have to show for a 6 percent raise is flat test scores.

  5. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    I love the anecdotal cherry-picking that Bacon engages is – NOT!

    Completely blows up any reasoned argument using facts and data!

    It’s like ONLY Virginia has a problem like this teacher and other states do not… and the money thing has no impact, it’s the job.

    Really?

    Some folks insist on living in a bubble and apparently will not acknowledge realities if it goes against their own beliefs!

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