Miyares Retreats from Wind Performance Standard

Dominion’s proposed wind project off Virginia Beach.. Scale is correct and a second tranche is planned.

by Steve Haner

First published this morning by the Thomas Jefferson Institute for Public Policy.

The big risk with Dominion Energy Virginia’s planned offshore wind extravaganza has always been that either the wind out in the Atlantic blows too little or it blows too much. Too little and the ratepayers are paying an inordinate amount for intermittent electricity; too much (a major hurricane say) and the turbines could be damaged or destroyed.

Because the monopoly utility will own the project, not a third party energy developer, all that risk lands on its ratepayers. The State Corporation Commission sought to protect Virginia ratepayers from the risk. That was the point of its imposition of a performance standard on the project tied to its overall energy output.

That is the risk Dominion’s leadership refused to accept, threatening to kill the $9.8 billion project entirely. It was not an idle threat.

Now Virginia Attorney General Jason Miyares (R) has a new proposal which protects Dominion and its shareholders from that risk after all, putting it back squarely on the utility’s 2.5 million customers. Instead, the person charged by law as the protector of Virginia consumers is focused on the risk of construction cost overruns.

Given the massive profits it will reap over the possible 30-year life of the project, it is not surprising Dominion is willing take some risk on that front. Should the project cost exceed $10.3 billion (note: that is already a 5% cost increase) and reach $11.3 billion, Dominion shareholders will split the additional cost with its ratepayers.

Even if consumers only have to finance an additional $1 billion to build it, that still increases Dominion’s potential annual return on equity by about $100 million per year. An additional billion from its own coffers puts only a small dent in decades of profit.

With this approach, Dominion gets all those profits no matter how much power it produces, and consumers will fund any energy deficit. The SCC could impose sanctions for poor energy production if Dominion’s own negligence is to blame, but too much or too little wind won’t hit its bottom line. It will only hit customer energy bills.

The SCC’s hands are also tied on project cost overruns unless they approach $14 billion. Only then can the SCC step in and try to shut the boondoggle down.  Should it do so, ratepayers will still be on the hook for amounts spent at that point. Again, were this a third party developer’s project, the construction cost risk would never be on the customers.

This is not progress. Unfortunately, with the Attorney General joining with the Green New Deal advocates to endorse it, and with the praise already heaped on it by Governor Glenn Youngkin (R), it enters the regulatory arena with a full head of steam.

Some background: When we last visited this issue, the SCC had approved the wind project with its condition that Dominion would bear additional costs if it failed to hit output targets, specifically a 42% capacity factor.  Dominion sought and got reconsideration of that, and all the parties filed another round of arguments. The public added more comments, one from the Thomas Jefferson Institute. That was followed by several weeks of silence, a sign that somebody was negotiating behind the scenes.

The deal emerged October 28, late on a Friday afternoon. Miyares got to announce it first with great fanfare. He called it “historic” and touted “unprecedented consumer protections.” You can read the document here, with pages 9-12 being the actual stipulation. Basically, five parties have signed on: Miyares, Dominion, two environmental organizations, and Walmart, the state’s largest employer and a huge Dominion customer.

The two judges of the SCC are not obligated to accept this stipulation and reverse their earlier stance. Missing from the agreement are other parties, including the SCC’s own staff, another entity charged with protecting consumers. Also missing are Clean Virginia, another major environmental group, and the Virginia Committee for Fair Utility Rates, representing industrial customers. The SCC may seek their reaction before deciding.

Every signatory to the deal, with the possible exception of Miyares, was basically in support of building this project all along because they all accept the premise that fossil fuel energy is a threat to human existence. That includes Walmart. If ten years from now Virginians regret the construction of this project and its impact on their electric bills, history will record Miyares as the political leader who kept Dominion from pulling the plug.

A good element of the stipulation involves accounting for any additional financial subsidy to the project provided by the Biden Administration’s Inflation Reduction Act. If that does lower the final construction cost, the benefit should flow to consumers. That would likely have been the SCC’s position anyway, but it is good to have that written into any final order.

In the last General Assembly, every Republican member of the House of Delegates voted to kill this project, or to at least remove the legislative provisions that made it mandatory. Several Republican senators would have voted the same way if Senate Democrats hadn’t killed the bill in committee. The House Republicans also voted in a different bill to fully restore the SCC’s regulatory authority to say yea or nay on its prudence.

In his recent energy plan document, Governor Youngkin spoke eloquently about the need to restore SCC independence and oversight. Yet now once again we have a deal written in closed rooms by lobbyists and lawyers with varied motivations seeking to circumvent a valid SCC proposal to protect consumers. An Attorney General who wrote a strong brief praising that SCC proposal has now undercut that position, for no other possible reason than to keep the project alive.

Support for this negotiated settlement flies in the face of those legislative efforts and eliminates any chance of a similar debate in 2023. It belies the claims of trust in SCC oversight. For reasons they should explain in more detail, Virginia’s top Republican leaders remain all-in on offshore wind.


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63 responses to “Miyares Retreats from Wind Performance Standard”

  1. sal vitale Avatar
    sal vitale

    consumers should be protected from overruns and production short falls,

  2. I’m really disappointed in Miyares. Protecting consumers from construction cost overruns is worthwhile, but as Steve makes clear, it’s not as significant as protecting consumers from operational under-performance, much less from system failure in the event of major hurricane.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      The problem is that too many Republicans still don’t understand this wind project structured this way is a really, really bad idea. I don’t know if Dominion really would have killed off its own project due to the SCC’s condition, but they sure sounded serious and from a financial standpoint they saw what was the greatest risk. Their heated reaction should have caused everybody to dig in. Perhaps the SCC still will.

      Had Miyares put out a statement framing the deal as the best he could get given the General Assembly’s handcuffs, that would have been better. But he portrayed this as some big win, which it is not.

    2. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      The problem is that too many Republicans still don’t understand this wind project structured this way is a really, really bad idea. I don’t know if Dominion really would have killed off its own project due to the SCC’s condition, but they sure sounded serious and from a financial standpoint they saw what was the greatest risk. Their heated reaction should have caused everybody to dig in. Perhaps the SCC still will.

      Had Miyares put out a statement framing the deal as the best he could get given the General Assembly’s handcuffs, that would have been better. But he portrayed this as some big win, which it is not.

      1. DJRippert Avatar

        What are Miyares’ long term political plans? Given that Dominion all but buys elections in Virginia, maybe Miyares decided his political future couldn’t be divorced from Dominion’s interests.

    3. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      The so-called risk of system failure in the event of a major hurricane is a creation of this blog.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        The Chesapeake Bay-Bridge tunnel is designed to Cat 2 standards.

        boy did THEY screw up when they built it!

        1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          I am sure Haner and JAB will be posting on the risk to tax payers any moment now…

  3. how_it_works Avatar
    how_it_works

    Both parties are all in on the idea of privatizing profits and socializing costs.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Sadly, too often true. Rent seeking is not a partisan issue.

  4. LarrytheG Avatar

    I see where Poland just signed on with Westinghouse to build a nuke – with the help and support of the Biden administration.

    I see where Youngkin also wants to build nukes in Virginia.

    So I ask… would the folks who oppose the offshore wind also oppose Nukes on a similar basis?

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      All proposals should be evaluated on the same dispassionate basis. A nuke plant has two huge advantages over this. It should last decades longer, and operated correctly its capacity factor is in the 90 percent plus range, not a bare 40%. And it should never, ever be a dictated outcome in legislation as this was.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        Are Nuke plants subject to overruns?

        Would we make the stipulation that if there was an overrun, Dominion would eat it?

        BTW, I AGREE the Nuke plant would have major advantages over wind but not sure on cost.

      2. Building a new nuke plants in the US is an awful option if you are worried about ratepayers holding the bag. By all means keep existing plants running forever, but new nukes are significantly more expensive from an LCOE perspective than gas, coal, or utility-scale wind and solar. Marginal operating costs of existing plants are very competitive, but new ones are unfortunately not a good option.

        And it’s doubtful anyone will propose one without massive subsidies going forward because of this fact. Yes it will run forever, but it’s a killer for ratepayers. Ask GA and SC ratepayers about a $14 billion project (Vogtle units 3&4) that started in 2009, is now >$14 billion more expensive (100% cost overrun), and 13 years later is still not complete.

        One of the best sources for LCOE information is financial firm Lazard. https://www.lazard.com/perspective/levelized-cost-of-energy-levelized-cost-of-storage-and-levelized-cost-of-hydrogen/

      3. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        Way more to the equation than just capacity factor…

    2. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      All proposals should be evaluated on the same dispassionate basis. A nuke plant has two huge advantages over this. It should last decades longer, and operated correctly its capacity factor is in the 90 percent plus range, not a bare 40%. And it should never, ever be a dictated outcome in legislation as this was.

  5. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    I’m getting some valid pushback on two points. If the cost of the plant reaches $11.3 billion, including $1 billion more financed by ratepayers, that likely would be additional profit to the company of less than $100 million per year. If closer to $50 million — per year — that is still real money. And cost overruns even at the lower levels, below $14 million, are still subject to review for reasonableness and prudence. So what? It won’t be considered imprudent if supplier costs rise with inflation, or an unavoidable construction delay occurs. The key point here is all parties are conceding for the first time that the $9.8 billion price tag is already obsolete, and now the number 0f $13,7 billion is floating out there.

  6. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    “Not really blinking. Wind just blew some grit in my eyes.”

  7. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    The SCC should call Dominion’s bluff and stand by the 42 percent capacity factor. It would be a lot of egg on Dominion’s face if it were unwilling to stand by its own standard.

    Miyares is obviously not looking out for the ratepayer, after all he agreed to our paying for another $1.5 billion in cost overruns. He has his eye on 2025 and those Dominion contributions.

    1. DJRippert Avatar

      “He has his eye on 2025 and those Dominion contributions.” Seems that way to me too.

    2. William O'Keefe Avatar
      William O’Keefe

      You are oh so right. Instead of privatizing profits and socializing costs, privatize both.

  8. LarrytheG Avatar

    Because of Climate concerns, Nukes may well be coming back:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8538b6094495dba6fc6d6266b08110748949f5129c1df8673db3b5deb0c8a50e.jpg

    but it might be interesting how much we’re willing to pay and nameplate capacity factor – TWICE what OSW is claimed to be – is not the only factor – 2300 mwatts verses 15 mw. 30 billion verses 14 billion. I seem to remember NA3 was supposed to be 13 billion.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/67b1454616a7d6c3eba0104c8007805e9227ebc473b189078a94a603f49bd52d.jpg

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        yep. But I bet Germany will BUY clean power! 😉

        1. William O'Keefe Avatar
          William O’Keefe

          Is that why it is turning back to coal? FACTS,FACTS,FACTS!

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            is that noise from the cheep seats?

            😉

            yes. they’ll burn coal until they come up with better solutions but I would not bet against the Germans having success on that.

            The difference is that some folks are committed to find answers and others are naysayers and doom-mongers.

            Over time, we’ve always innovated successfully and no reason to think otherwise now and Germany has no intention to use coal and not doing anything else.

      2. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        If survival depends on it, you’ll burn cow dung on the living room rug, but if you’ve the luxury to be less, shall we say, rustic…

        1. Stephen Haner Avatar
          Stephen Haner

          Probably 1 billion humans still burn cow dung or wood for basic energy.

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            GHG neutral. Sort of. Assuming you don’t burn it all at once.

          2. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            GHG neutral. Sort of. Assuming you don’t burn it all at once.

          3. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Actually carbon neutral energy source… if you replant trees that is…

          4. LarrytheG Avatar

            …. which is 1/10th the number that did that a couple of centuries ago….

            And we’ve had open pits for sewage in this country and used rivers for sewage disposal just a few decades ago and still bad in other countries…

            but on a continuum – over time – it’s gotten better and better because that’s endemic to human nature.

            Some of us can’t seem to look at things except in a dark way, looking back, not forward.

            We evolve and we progress. and we pollute less and we rise to what we must do to protect and preserve the planet that we all live on and hope to continue to.

            But we do have to drag the naysayers and doom mongers along….

      3. Germany really regretting shutting down nuke plants

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          what I’d bet is that famous German engineering coming up with a “safe” Nuke, or cost feasible hydrogen, etc.

          Up until this point in time, mankind has always had an optimistic view towards technology advancing to provide “better”. Now too many act like we’re static and locked in and no more innovation will happen.

          1. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            Like I told you before, Larry, that famous German engineering is why your car doesn’t pollute as much.

            I discovered the other day that Bosch’s US headquarters is only a few miles from where I used to live back in the 80s before I got dragged here with my parents.

            Maybe I could’ve worked for them instead of being stuck on government IT contract after another!

            I’m convinced that if I go to hell, I’ll spend an eternity remediating security vulnerabilities on US Government computers..

          2. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Are you talking about VW’s diesel? ‘Cause…

          3. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            Bosch’s gasoline engine management innovations through the years.

            My Nissan Frontier came with a Bosch oxygen sensor. I replaced it with a Denso sensor…

          4. LarrytheG Avatar

            Well, the reason our cars don’t pollute much is that we passed laws that REQUIRED the known and evolving technology and not without pushback from the usual suspects.

            I’ll keep in mind your view about govt IT security the next time a non-govt commercial company has their system hacked with my credentials in their system! 😉 The main problem is management that thinks IT is too expensive and prefers faux sys admins!

          5. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            The problem, Larry, with government IT and security is that somehow the systems are put online and are online for quite a while before remediation is done.

            It should be done as part of the deployment. It’s like building a house and then going back later and, uh oh, we forgot to put the wiring for an alarm system in!

            Always better to do it at the start.

          6. LarrytheG Avatar

            Oh I agree. But the essentially nature of IT systems, as you likely know, is that they evolve/change/innovate and users/management “want” what they want, and there is always willing “IT” folks willing to make changes, not matter the consequences downstream especially in terms of being able to maintain.

            This is why more and more Corporations have Chief Data Officers whose job is to try to do it right and keep management and workers from corrupting the system with their personal wants.

            The govt with it’s tendency to “silo” continues to have problems with this issue.

            NMCI was supposed to address it but that was some time ago and I’m not sure where they are now, but not surprised it’s still a problem especially when there are IT contractors who “report” to their COTARs rather than Network Security.

          7. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            I haven’t heard about NMCI in years. About all I remember about NMCI is two things: (1) Most people did not like it and (2) It was a cash cow for EDS.

          8. LarrytheG Avatar

            It was about standardization , software and hardware and standard configurations like security templates.

            It’s the very same thing we do with cars, airplanes, etc… for the same reasons….

            but software and hardware is so easily modified that everyone and their dog wants their own customized thing …until it breaks and they want IT support that is not trained for that config.

            simple stuff.

          9. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            The issue with NMCI is that EDS was making a lot of money off of it and the performance wasn’t up to par. I had to use the NMCI VPN and it was about as slow as a dialup modem. Only slightly better on weekends.

          10. LarrytheG Avatar

            One might think that if EDS was the problem, that when they changed to a different company NCMI would go forward.

            The issue with standardization is that it fights against best-of-breed (which is different for different Silos) but when folks want their own stuff and don’t want to pay for IT training to support it – then you end up with folks who mess with system configurations without a known/defined condition or any “team” way to maintain it except for a “guru”. That’s not system engineering in my book. If you need a better widget – get it defined and approved and get your folks trained to operate it and have rules for configuration management.

            A company like Bank of America or even just a run-of-the-mill Credit Union, or air traffic control or software that operates MRIs, would go belly up if it did business like some DOD outfits do for their in house but the Military itself insists on proper Config Management for it’s weapon systems….usually…

          11. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Rehau HQ in Loudoun, btw… not that they do much manufacturing here…

          12. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            Kind of a hike from where I live. And I’ve determined that the next move is going to be out of Virginia.

          13. Hydrogen is an energy storage medium. it’s like a gaseous battery. Someone still has to make electricity to electrolyze H. Conversion back to electricity creates an inefficient energy chain due to losses. Reducing those losses is a big target for now.

            Nuclear energy is great, but have to solve the waste problem, along with risk mitigation of when things go really wrong. Definite lack of balance on these pages about real risk; so much made up about hurricanes and blades, but never a peep about Fukushima or 3 mile island. Want to understand the risk of a nuclear plant gone wrong, see what the costs and implications of Fukushima disaster are. I’m pro-nuclear, but there’s big risk there and political bias gets in the way too much here in discussing renewables.

          14. LarrytheG Avatar

            if solar could crack hydrogen from water, then burn it onsite to generate electricity we’d be done.

  9. Turbocohen Avatar
    Turbocohen

    If our offshore wind turbines are not direct drive (no transmission) and do not have articulating blades utilizing replaceable siliconized rubber on their leading edges, there is no way the ratepayer is not screwed. Failure is baked in to todays existing “state of the art” designs in that are in production lacking these two features. Articulating blades fold down in line with the mast during severe storms and make it MUCH easier to perform blade maintenance and replacement.

  10. Turbocohen Avatar
    Turbocohen

    If our offshore wind turbines are not direct drive (no transmission) and do not have articulating blades utilizing replaceable siliconized rubber on their leading edges, there is no way the ratepayer is not screwed. Failure is baked in to todays existing “state of the art” designs in that are in production lacking these features. Articulating blades fold down in line with the mast during severe storms and make it MUCH easier to perform blade maintenance and replacement.

  11. James C. Sherlock Avatar
    James C. Sherlock

    Steve, AG Miyares has said that the agreement includes consumer protections “unprecedented” in the Commonwealth.

    His statement included:

    “Traditionally, Virginia consumers have paid for all utility project costs. Today’s agreement changes that in the event of cost overruns. Dominion Energy has agreed to cost sharing and a cost cap on construction expenses, after which it will be responsible for all cost overruns. The agreement also includes a performance standard designed to ensure that the project produces the energy promised.”

    Two questions for you: Do you find any of that untrue? Do you think it is a better deal than it would have been had not the AG stepped in?

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      For the utility to accept the financial responsibility for cost overruns beyond a certain point is a change from precedent. I think they agreed, however, because of the massive profit they will still reap. I do not see an effective “cap” however as Dominion will be able to get SCC permission to go higher. It is the classic sunk cost problem. Will the SCC just abandon a project that has already consumed $11-12 billion? Do they do that with the aircraft carriers? No, they finish it (and yes, sometimes the shipyard eats some of the overrun).

      I find the performance standard approach in this inadequate. Remember, it was Miyares’ witness who first proposed the 42% capacity factor as the standard. He should have stood with it.

      With traditional oversight authority in place, there is no way the SCC would be allowing any of this and everybody involved knows it. That is the real problem, the inability of the SCC to say NO. Under this they won’t be able to do that until we are almost $12 billion in. Yippee.

      1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
        James C. Sherlock

        Thanks

  12. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    There is a simple, elegant, and highly capitalistic, i.e., Republican, solution; If you are a Dominion customer, buy a sufficient number of shares in Dominion that the dividend, which they are striving to protect, will cover your share of the rate increase. Ten shares should do it.

    Use your Roth IRA and you needn’t worry about covering the tax on the dividends.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      I’m waiting to hear Dominion’s proposal to build SMRs. I’m sure Youngkin and Miyares will be quite supportive!

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        In their backyards? I doubt it.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          Oh… in Loudoun or Fairfax I’m sure….

          1. Stephen Haner Avatar
            Stephen Haner

            No. Grundy.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            Grundy would be GOOD! local jobs and less NIMBY!

            It really is a mystery as to why we can SMRs in use for more than 50 yrs and we cannot seem to commercialize them.

            Why? too costly? not safe enough? why?

          3. Stephen Haner Avatar
            Stephen Haner

            Who carries the liability risk if a Navy nuke fails?

          4. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            The fish.

  13. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    “Every signatory to the deal, with the possible exception of Miyares, was basically in support of building this project all along because they all accept the premise that fossil fuel energy is a threat to human existence.”

    Maybe Youngkin’s administration doesn’t want to bet against this given the potential consequences. Perhaps their window of concern is a bit longer than ten years…. how old is he again… and you…?

  14. William O'Keefe Avatar
    William O’Keefe

    The AG got snookered. If Dominion had pulled the plug, so what. It would still have to provide power and could have put more emphasis on natural gas and advances in nuclear power instead of unreliable wind and solar. Germany’s experience should be a lesson to us, the AG, and the General Assembly.

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