Mea Culpa, Bills Targeting UDC Should Fail

Is the historical homestead of the Lees of Virginia, Stratford Hall, being stripped of its tax exemptions just because of its connection to one Lee in particular?

By Steve  Haner

Racial animus and revenge are always bad policies. It is now very clear those are the motivations for the bills advancing to strip tax exemptions from legitimate historical and charitable institutions, simply because of connections to the Southern Confederacy. They should die.

The beeping sound you hear is me backing up my truck to prepare for a 180- degree turn. My initial reaction to House Bill 568 was to not really care, but that was based on a cursory reading of the fiscal impact statement. I also forgot the lessons of 40 years of watching the sausage factory and failed to read the bill to the end.

I falsely concluded the bill was limited to removing the exemption enjoyed by the United Daughters of the Confederacy from recordation taxes on any real estate transactions. In that section of code amended by the bill, the UDC is the only group mentioned by name, and there really is not a rational reason it should be the only such group given that special treatment. Such transactions must be rare anyway, so it was clearly about symbolism, not money.

On that basis I pushed back when Jim Bacon rushed in print to the UDC’s defense. I claimed that other charitable exemptions for the UDC still remained. I hereby give him and others an apology. And the true nature of this bill came to the fore when the Virginia Senate amended it to expand the target list.

Along with the recordation tax exemption, which means little, the bill also strips the real property and personal property tax exemptions that were granted to the UDC years ago. Those are significant taxes that are assessed every year, and forcing them to pay will put a major dent in their operating budget, sucking dollars from any actual service programs.

That change comes from amending § 58.1-3607, where the UDC is one of many very diverse non-profits granted the exemptions. It is not being singled out for special treatment. The long list is dominated by historical properties or veteran service groups, some of which might be defunct.

One of the touchstone principles of good tax policy is uniformity. If the General Assembly has exempted a long list of such groups, including Future Farmers and the Disabled American Veterans and the Patrick Henry Memorial Foundation, the UDC is not getting special treatment but instead uniform treatment. It is this Democratic majority that is now applying special treatment, and that special treatment is malice and petty revenge.

As bad as the introduced bill was, the Virginia Senate has now made it worse with a substitute.

It also strikes from the real property exemption list the Robert E. Lee Memorial Foundation (owners of Stratford Hall), the Stonewall Jackson Memorial (which owns the museum in Lexington, I believe) and the Confederate Memorial Literary Society (which seems to own just a collection of materials displayed in museums).

That is targeting. That is obvious and intentional animus just to make a cheap point for tawdry political gain. Those who say, as John Reid did on WRVA this morning, that any and all charitable institutions will now have to prove political correctness to keep their exempt status, well they now have a point. And when the pendulum swings the other way, as it certainly will, the payback and beatings from the other side will commence.

Luckily the House and Senate bills are now out of sync. They can cross over, have their amendments rejected by the other body, and die in a conference committee that never meets. The Democrats will have their rolls calls, which is all they really want, the Instagram equivalent of “doing something to impose justice.”

Seriously, historical buildings owned by non-profits and open to the public for educational purposes should be forced to pay taxes? Taxes not paid by other similar places? If you exempt some, you should exempt all. Weaponizing the tax code is a very bad idea, Virginia.


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77 responses to “Mea Culpa, Bills Targeting UDC Should Fail”

  1. Thanks for the apology, Steve. Even more, thanks for the follow-up reporting.

  2. LarrytheG Avatar

    sounds like yet another will bit the dust. No hope of passage, right?

  3. Democrats would be wise to keep in mind that two can play that game, and they may not always be in control of the General Assembly.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      You think this sort of thing doesn’t happen when the GOP is in control?

      Au Contraire!

      1. Please provide a list of the non-profit organizations which the GA removed from tax-exempt status while the GOP had the majority.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          ” Democrats would be wise to keep in mind that two can play that game, and they may not always be in control of the General Assembly.”

          the “game” involves way more than this specific issue.

          But – do we know what NGOs get special tax status or not and why – in general?

          It’s much ado about nothing anyhow – has no chance of passage.

          1. So you’re saying you don’t have a list?

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            no list. much ado about nothing.

          3. Stephen Haner Avatar
            Stephen Haner

            If you make me sympathetic and make me their ally, think you might be going too far?

          4. LarrytheG Avatar

            I think we all know where there bill is headed for. BOth sides do this. Both
            oxes get gored and both sides scream FOUL! geeze

          5. LarrytheG Avatar

            I think we all know where there bill is headed for. BOth sides do this. Both
            oxes get gored and both sides scream FOUL! geeze

          6. Not Today Avatar

            I think we all know where this is headed and it won’t be decided by most of those vocal on BR.

          7. Marty Chapman Avatar
            Marty Chapman

            so your assertion was baseless?

          8. Marty Chapman Avatar
            Marty Chapman

            Larry, I see no list

          9. LarrytheG Avatar

            I apologize to all who responded. I do not get notice of all comments made so unless I come by and look, I do not know there were additional comments.

            In terms of “the” list

            I’ve lost track of what “list”. Can someone refresh?

          10. Marty Chapman Avatar
            Marty Chapman

            quick review of YOUR comments should shed some light

          11. LarrytheG Avatar

            I did but still not clear to me. Who was creating the list? I wasn’t, right?

  4. Wow..Dems attacking and trying to destroy American history…..
    Color me surprised

    1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      The Confederacy is not American… quite the opposite.

      1. Read: Deep Roots: How Slavery Still Shapes Southern Politics

        1. Marty Chapman Avatar
          Marty Chapman

          it seems to mainly shape Democrat politics

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            Inconvenient history one does not want to know?

            Just the “history” one wants to know about?

  5. Will this bill lower poverty and crime rates and raise SOLs?

    1. walter smith Avatar
      walter smith

      Silly you! Yes! Haven’t you noticed the improvement in Richmond since No Monument Avenue?

    2. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      No, it will distract distressed voters from the abject failure of their chosen leaders to do anything that might actually help them succeed. When things were reversed, it was poor whites being lulled and distracted by blacks being targeted with Jim Crow, when in reality poor was poor and they should have worked together. Same game.

      1. Matt Adams Avatar
        Matt Adams

        “When things were reversed, it was poor whites being lulled and distracted by blacks being targeted with Jim Crow, when in reality poor was poor and they should have worked together”

        I would say the irony about that is, it’s the same political faction that engaged in that practice back then as it is now. So I mean they know what they are doing.

  6. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    Apologies accepted. A bill like this could easily be amended to punish anyone who is out of line with the current standards of the culture wars. I work at the George Washington Foundation which operates Ferry Farm and Historic Kenmore. Losing tax exempt status, especially on property, would set the foundation back in a damaging way. Though not in the crosshairs that could change with a stroke of a pen. I am enraged that Stratford Hall, the home of two signers of the Declaration of Independence, is in the cross hairs. In Front Royal, the UDC operates the Warren Rifles Museum. It is run on a shoe string budget but houses one best collections on the war and it was all donated by local citizens.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      I forgot my Martin Niemoller…
      https://remember.org/witness/links-let-niem

      I may have to rethink my charity list, and remove a few to make room for one or more of these. The Jackson House was across the street from my office in Lexington. Lee’s wartime Richmond home was around the corner from my office there, and it was a short walk from the Virginia Association of Realtor’s office to the location where Stuart was mortally wounded. I’m sure all of those will get removed soon, or at least the signage.

      And back to Niemoller, let me be clear. Yes, I am making that comparison to Germany in the 1930s.

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        There is plenty of room in the trenches defending this hill. Be glad to share my hard tack with you.

        1. Stephen Haner Avatar
          Stephen Haner

          Not putting on the butternut. But the idea of hitting all these buildings with real estate taxes just because Confederates once slept there is shameful, when similar historical structures are exempt. The response should be ridicule.

  7. Paul Sweet Avatar
    Paul Sweet

    Great! Tax them so they will have to sell the property to developers to build data centers or McMansions!

    Better still, fence them in so people visiting them can be identified as racist MAGA extremists!

  8. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Kicking and screaming out of the 19th century.

    You want statues to the war dead? Get rid of the rider, keep the horse.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      Some commenters pretend that Jim Crow memorabilia is “history” and “heritage” or
      that they are no different from other statues and memorials…they’re all the same and targeting Jim Crow stuff is wrong.

      Like all those name changes to highways , schools, buildings, Military bases is “destroying history”. Maybe if we banned books also. Oh wait!

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Even sacred cows eventually die.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          but not quietly…..

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Time to take the Confederacy to the abattoir.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            taxadermy?

  9. Next year, they’ll put forth a bill to remove: The Mount Vernon Ladies’ Association of the Union; the Thomas Jefferson Memorial Foundation, Incorporated; the Patrick Henry Memorial Foundation, Incorporated; George Washington’s Fredericksburg Foundation; and the Manassas Battlefield Confederate Park, Incorporated, from the list.

    And after that, the Germans…

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Must be a data center sitting on the Manassas land….

    2. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Must be a data center sitting on the Manassas land….

    3. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
      James Wyatt Whitehead

      Mr. Wayne the bill patron and writer knows nothing about history. For example, Manassas Battlefield Confederate Park. This was the early establishment of the battlefield by the SCV and leading citizens of the town of Manassas. 130 acres at the Henry House were preserved in 1921 and the park operated as a corporation and was recognized by the Virginia State Corporation Commission. In 1940 the US Department of the Interior acquired this land and thus began Manassas National Battlefield Park. The Confederate Park has not existed for 84 years. Mr. Haner is right. The bill patrons should be picked on morning, noon, and night.
      https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/mana/adhi2a.htm

      1. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        Well if it doesn’t exist anymore, perhaps it could be excised from the list. Are there any clubhouses for Spanish-American War vets left? But the goal is clear, and Nancy and Larry in the comments are applauding because they know low-education voters fall for the virtue signaling and keep Democrats in power.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          I think if you check the education status of voters and who they vote for – you’ll see a correlation.. check the Pew Polls.

          Conspiracy theories about Taylor Swift may well come from low education types but from what I see, not the Dems.

        2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
          James Wyatt Whitehead

          You give the bill writer too much credit. I think they scanned the list and spotted the word Confederate and shifted into lefty hyper drive. You actually think the writer knew the complete story? It’s easy for Nancy and Lare Bear to play their Waldorf and Statler routine. Hiding behind fake names. It says a great deal about them. I don’t say that in a mean way. I actually like them.

          1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            Oh wise one. Can you be honest about your name?
            Might make your book of wisdom a best seller.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            I used to originally in BR… if you google around you’ll probably find it but don’t
            really understand the fascination with it.

        3. LarrytheG Avatar

          I think if you check the education status of voters and who they vote for – you’ll see a correlation.. check the Pew Polls.

          Conspiracy theories about Taylor Swift may well come from low education types but from what I see, not the Dems.

  10. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    “One of the touchstone principles of good tax policy is uniformity. If the General Assembly has exempted a long list of such groups, including Future Farmers and the Disabled American Veterans and the Patrick Henry Memorial Foundation the UDC is not getting special treatment but instead uniform treatment.”

    UDC is actually getting special treatment along with those other individual organizations identified. At some point somebody deemed that they were due that special treatment for some reason – apparently that may no longer be true. The special treatment giveth, the special treatment taketh away. Alas…

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      The UDC is still a charitable operation. And in earlier times ran actual medical facilities and retirement facilities, and still manages historical properties. If you read the whole statute, some groups are named and some are brought in by broad definitions, but the policy is to exempt non-profits and the UDC still qualifies.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        Is there qualifications for what non-profits “qualify” and which do not?

        So, obviously, the folks who cam to Cville with tiki torches can claim to be a charitable non-profit , right?

      2. LarrytheG Avatar

        Is there qualifications for what non-profits “qualify” and which do not?

        So, obviously, the folks who cam to Cville with tiki torches can claim to be a charitable non-profit , right?

        1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
          James Wyatt Whitehead

          The UDC did not come to C’ville with tiki torches. You know that. Just stop. Please.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            Oh they DID come to Cville before to build Jim Crow memorials, and THEN the folks with the tiki torches came to defend the removal of the Jim Crow statue. Complete history, not selective James.

  11. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    Dems: “Hey, are you Confederates still there…?”

    Reps: “Yep, still here…”

    Dems: “Just checking, thanks…”

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      May I live long enough to see the payback. I’ll help find the targets in the tax code. You and Paul are making the point that Larry and Nancy did. Virtue signaling is all. It is your way.

      The bill went by for the day in the Senate yesterday. Maybe it is developing a fever now that they went against such high visible historic properties like Stratford Hall.

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        Less “virtue signaling” and more “laying bare for all to see”…

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          It’s hell when you can’t do revisionist history “right”!

      2. LarrytheG Avatar

        What we seem to have mixed in with some of this IMO is continuing modern day supporters of Jim Crow and what it stood for and insistence that those “memorials” remain in society even though we know why they were put up to begin with and how the ancestors of those who were harmed by Jim Crow feel.

        If there overreaction? Yes. But as long as the Jim Crow folks continue to assert that such things remain in society, the other side is going to keep coming back at them.

        Middle ground? at least admit what is going on with modern day Jim Crow supporters.

        1. Paul Sweet Avatar
          Paul Sweet

          I’m a damnyankee raised in northern NJ, not a “modern day Jim Crow supporter”.

          Stratford Hall was home to two of the signers of the Declaration of Independence, Richard Henry Lee and Francis Lightfoot Lee. However, it could lose its tax exemption since some people consider it to be tainted by Robert E. Lee living there as well as the Lee family being slaveholders.

          This may be just the beginning, like the few statues on Monument Avenue, and could end up with several historic homes eventually being lost because rising property values would tax them into being forced to sell to developers.

        2. Paul Sweet Avatar
          Paul Sweet

          I’m a damnyankee raised in northern NJ, not a “modern day Jim Crow supporter”.

          Stratford Hall was home to two of the signers of the Declaration of Independence, Richard Henry Lee and Francis Lightfoot Lee. However, it could lose its tax exemption since some people consider it to be tainted by Robert E. Lee living there as well as the Lee family being slaveholders.

          This may be just the beginning, like the few statues on Monument Avenue, and could end up with several historic homes eventually being lost because rising property values would tax them into being forced to sell to developers.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            I disagree with Stratford Hall but I do ask what the qualifications are because I think there IS a line.

            There are hundreds of thousands of statues that will never be taken down. There are also hundreds
            of Jim Crow statues still standing.

            For all the whining and gnashing of teeth about “history”, few seem willing to read and admit
            what the Jim Crow memorials are about. It’s simple documented history that they won’t
            acknowledge and instead insist on “their” preferred history as if it’s a choice. Denying history
            and revisionist history seems to be a feature for some folks, especially when it comes to the UDC
            and their efforts. Want some links to some credible/authoritative history sites?

          2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            ” I think there IS a line.”

            I don’t believe you.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar

            You don’t have a line or others don’t? You don’t believe that? My line for your edification is the difference between a memorial erected by Jim Crow and one that is not. There are hundreds of Confederate statues that are to the men who fought and lost their lives that do remain and I’d not support them coming down. When it comes to charitable status, would we give it to organizations that support traitors and others who reject the US and it’s Constitution and take up arms against it, historic or modern like today’s militia?

          4. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            ” I think there IS a line.”

            You certainly should not, Arlington Cemetery proved statements like that to be false a long time ago.

          5. Marty Chapman Avatar
            Marty Chapman

            What do Columbus, Lincoln, and Teddy Roosevelt have to do with Jim Crow?

  12. Randy Huffman Avatar
    Randy Huffman

    The article was great and informative, thanks Steve.

  13. Could get sticky disallowing Virginia tax exemptions for some organizations holding federal IRC exemptions and not others—

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      what’s a federal IRC exemption?

      1. Randy Huffman Avatar
        Randy Huffman

        Internal Revenue Code, exempt from income tax. For example, Robert E. Lee Memorial Foundation is a bona fide 501c3 organization exempt from Federal income tax (the only one I looked up)

        Yet these proposed bills that Steve has outlined wants to target them and strip them of Virginia tax benefits, while the organization successfully qualified with the IRS for Federal tax exemption (which requires an application process and filing of annual form 990).

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          I’d oppose that and suspect it goes nowhere if it even gets to the Gov. Overboard and not even sure
          who they are appealing to because I bet even a substantial number of Dems won’t support it.

  14. Not Today Avatar

    Sounds like the Disney treatment in Florida.

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