Mamas, Let Your Babies Grow Up Before Getting Vaccinated

Source: Virginia Department of Health

by James A. Bacon

About 21,000 Virginia children aged four and under have been vaccinated against COVID-19 in the three weeks since the shots were made available, reports the Richmond Times-Dispatch. That amounts to only 5% of the age group, observes reporter Eric Kolenich, but it’s significantly higher than the national average of 2%.

I’m double vaxed and double boosted. But, then, I’m 69 years old. Nearly 3,800 Virginians in my age bracket have died from the virus. Only 13 children under the age of nine have succumbed.

I don’t proffer unsolicited advice to my daughters. They’re intelligent women capable of making informed decisions about my three grandchildren, and I’m not inclined to meddle. But if they sought my counsel (which they haven’t), I would advise against vaccinating the little knuckleheads.

According to the Virginia Department of Health, nearly 160,000 cases of COVID have been reported for the 0-to-9 age bracket. The chances of little guys getting the virus are high. But only 942 have been hospitalized, and only 13 have died.

Some children are at greater risk than others. Infants (younger than six months) and children with a pre-term birth history, diabetes or asthma are at higher risk of hospitalization than others. If your child does not have one of those pre-existing conditions, the odds of getting severely ill are extremely low. Given the possibility (remote but real) of adverse reactions, vaccination for healthy tots might be a net negative.

There’s another consideration. The efficacy of the vaccines and boosters are known without a doubt to decline over time, and some suggest (I can’t vouch for the science, but it doesn’t sound implausible) that repeated administrations of the vaccine might undermine the body’s natural immunological defenses. My thought is that parents should defer getting their children vaccinated until they reach an age at which the risk profile justifies it.

Given the fact that there seems to be no stampede toward vaccination of young children in Virginia or anywhere else, I’m guessing that many moms have already reached that conclusion.

An aside on the VDH COVID database: the VDH database has cool new features. You can view confirmed cases, hospitalizations, and deaths for as long as data have been collected, but you can also narrow the results to the past year, the past half-year, and the past 13 weeks. Given the fact that the virus has mutated and new strains are in circulation, more recent results might provide a better measure of current risk profiles than pandemic-long results.

Looking at COVID-19 deaths that have occurred in the past 26 weeks, roughly coinciding with the onset of the Omicron variant, there have been three deaths in Virginia among children aged 0 to 9.


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49 responses to “Mamas, Let Your Babies Grow Up Before Getting Vaccinated”

  1. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    For sale, booster seat. Never used.

  2. Lefty665 Avatar
    Lefty665

    Think you’ve got a good take. I’m right where you are on my own geezer vax/boosters, keeping hands off on my sons decisions about the advisability of vaxxing my young grand kids, and somewhat skeptical look at the value of vaxxing for them.

  3. CJBova Avatar

    The rest of the 0-9 numbers for the past 26 weeks:
    32,600 cases (lowest case rate by age group–see below)
    155 hospitalizations (rate is 15 per 100,000)
    3 deaths = .0092% (death rate not calculated)

    Case rates by age group
    0-9……… 3191
    10-19….. 3325
    20-29…. 4190
    30-39 …. 4469
    40-49 …. 4262
    50-59….. 3844
    60-69… 3427
    70-79… 3330
    80+….. 3999

    Cases by vaccine status are no longer reported by VDH.
    Maybe I’m wrong, but looks like vaxxed, boosted or not, we’re pretty much all in the same boat for chances to get it–or get it again.

  4. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    https://americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/YouthUnderFire-fig1-693.png

    No vaccines for those under 12, but guns are okay; clearly they innately handle firearms safely.

    1. WayneS Avatar

      What do you mean? Gun deaths for those under 12 are very close to zero percent.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Shows they can handle a gun.

  5. Warmac9999 Avatar
    Warmac9999

    See vaccineinjurynews.com. Useful discussions and data worth considering.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      No, it’s crap. That website is junk. Check out the autism section. I agree people should make their own decisions but too many are pushing nonsense to interfere with that. The hospitals and morgues are not filling up with victims of the vaccines. Even the lying media couldn’t hide that.

      As far as I know, my two grandsons remain unvaccinated and their mother is a working nurse practitioner. She and my son in law, OTOH, have had the shots. This has evolved into a form of cold or flu, diseases which always could hit a vulnerable person far harder than a healthy person. Flu kills plenty and always has. Now we have a new flu. Flu shot has always been only somewhat effective. I get it anyway.

      That table is fascinating, Carol. Stunned that the cases are that balanced by age but of course the bad outcomes are not. Deaths are even more heavily tilted toward older folks now than they were two years ago. Instead of Wu Flu it should be Geezer Flu.

      1. Warmac9999 Avatar
        Warmac9999

        What bothers me is the reference to calling any contradictory data crap. I personally know of young people who were vaxxed and quickly developed myocarditis, Bell’s palsy, and severe headaches (possible blood clot) leading to the emergency room. As far as I am concerned, vaccinating the very young is dangerous and I am joined in that assessment by a growing number of medical centers world wide.

        My wife and I had COVID after being vaxxed. She couldn’t breath resulting in Emergency Room visit. My son and daughter in law got COVID after being double vaxxed.

        You should consider due diligence and stop treating data as crap especially when the source is a government or agency in Scotland, UK, Denmark, Sweden, Israel (in particular), etc.

        1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          “Dr” Warren has spoken… no further debate is required…!!

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            I smell a troll… and I should know.

          2. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            He identifies himself as a troll therefore he is. Eric troll never has anything to add to a discussion.

          3. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            Tucker Carlson just blew the cover off the COVID vaccination horror story.

          4. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            “Dr” Warren, I am unsurprised at you citing Tucker Carlson as your source… sounds just about right… for you…

        2. Stephen Haner Avatar
          Stephen Haner

          It is clear the people behind that website oppose all vaccines and are also spreading the totally disproven claim they cause autism. I thought crap was kinder than malicious lies aimed at fools. Glad all your loved ones recovered.

          1. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            That is why due diligence is required. I look for the stories with data and references to known sources. Some of the stories are opinion but others contain data from reputable sources that can be checked. For example, if the Israeli news reports that there is a 25% greater incidence of myocarditis or pericarditis in young fully vaccinated adults versus unvaccinated, I think that is an important benchmark of vaccine effectiveness.

            Finally, this idea that people opposed to the COVID vaccine are opposed to all vaccines is simply idiotic. I have every other vax up to date and get an annual flu vax. This doesn’t exactly put me in the Robert Kennedy group – quite the contrary.

          2. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            The CDC updated their COVID adverse events report on 11July2022. You can check it out and make up your own mind. I suggest you compare to unvaccinated data but also to deaths associated with other vaccines for other diseases.

            My love ones were taking the flccc.net protocol. Easy to check out

  6. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    I am sure the parents of the 13 children lost wish they would have opted for the vaccine… now…

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      The idiots in the hard core anti-vax movement have thousands of lives on their butcher bill and have kept measles around. COVID is a mewling puppy compared to the other childhood diseases these people refuse to protect against.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        re: ” COVID is a mewling puppy compared to the other childhood diseases these people refuse to protect against.”

        Nice allegory.

        And how did we get to this point where parents are now opposed to vaccinating against all childhood diseases after our experiences with COVID?

        1. Stephen Haner Avatar
          Stephen Haner

          Note the copyright date on the website, 2017. This movement predates COVID by decades.

        2. Warmac9999 Avatar
          Warmac9999

          I don’t remember a time when so many deaths and injuries were attributed to one vaccine. I also never had an adverse reaction to being vaxxed until COVID. Parents are right to be cautious.

          1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            Amen. I not against vaccines but I do want to know all I can before any more jabs. Why is it so hard to find the real facts of possible side effects?

          2. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            It is interesting how people who ask questions are treated. Just asking for facts turns you into a pariah, an outcast. Because of this, more and more people are asking another question – why is asking so horrible in a free society. The obvious and unfortunate answer is there is something to hide.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            if that were actually TRUE…. and especially compared to how many who did not die because they got vaxxed…

          4. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            Perfectly fine question. However, scientific investigation starts with a hypothesis not a preconceived answer. So, let’s test to see if your hypothesis holds up not only immediately but through the passage of time. For example, what amount of time is acceptable if some people died after getting the vaxx – immediately, a week, a month, a year or a decade. How can we tie to vaccine or not without an autopsy. Are statistics enough?

    2. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      The idiots in the hard core anti-vax movement have thousands of lives on their butcher bill and have kept measles around. COVID is a mewling puppy compared to the other childhood diseases these people refuse to protect against.

    3. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Don’t forget the nearly 1,000 hospitalized. That ain’t a picnic, and will set ’em back a penny or two.

      1. Warmac9999 Avatar
        Warmac9999

        How many hospital beds are there in Virginia? How long is the average COVID stay. And how many COVID patients are just ascribed a COVID diagnosis? Just a couple of relevant questions.

  7. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    I wonder what the VAERS from CDC reports? I tried to look it up. Complicated. Need to go back to college to navigate that. Adverse reactions to the vaccines are worth knowing about.

    1. Warmac9999 Avatar
      Warmac9999

      VAERS isn’t designed for use by patients. I discovered that when I tried to report an adverse event. How would I know where the doctor got the vaccine and what its lot number was. Took a good half hour to negotiate the site and I can’t imagine a doctor wasting time to fill the thing out.

  8. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    “The people we are seeing who have severe illness now are largely unvaccinated, including young people,” said Dr. Peter Chin-Hong, a UCSF professor of medicine who specializes in infectious diseases, “and those who are unboosted who are older than 65, and those who are immunocompromised.”

    Of course, this is California where the people have weak constitutions as compared to Virginia…
    https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/07/17/california-covid-hospitalizations-have-quadrupled-who-is-getting-really-sick/amp/

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      No question, the government and vaccine manufacturers oversold the benefits and further damaged confidence and credibility. The trials for under 5 failed, it is a total flop for them, yet to keep the political panic going the Biden Administration forced the approvals (and proved it is no more interested in real science than its predecessor.)

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        how about other countries?

        Talking about this is a USA/Biden-only context is not dealing with the realities of the issue and instead hewing to partisan and/or anti-govt feelings.

        This is a worldwide issue and pointing to one country or one politician is not reasonable – keyword = “reason”.

        1. Warmac9999 Avatar
          Warmac9999

          There is not only data and news from other countries, but numerous anecdotes of injury and death as well. I could care less what anyone does – just hope they know the pros and all too often hidden cons. Individuals like Eric troll don’t want anyone to make an informed choice – just do what the government says.

          Please note as an anecdotal example, Justine Bieber and his wife. He has a form of facial paralysis and she had a stroke. These are 20 something “kids”.

          1. Stephen Haner Avatar
            Stephen Haner

            First page, the book “Science for Dummies” states “correlation is not causation.” 🙂 If a few thousand people have a hundred different kinds of adverse events after shots (facial paralysis?) then it probably ain’t the shots. Now, the data on young men and myocarditis, OTOH, merits somebody making a risk v benefit decision. The J&J shot in particular has fallen away. And as I said, the data indicate the shot is worthless for the youngest children.

          2. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            I talked to the guy who had Bell’s palsy. Young man about 26. His first shot – no problem. Second shot – facial paralysis within a couple of days. The paralysis was still evident when I talked to him six months later. Bell’s palsy as well as myocarditis is known side effect of COVID vaccine. You can look it up.

            You say the shot is worthless for young kids. From what I have read, supported by data, it is worse than worthless. So, to use you comment, is this correlation or causation? Your choice as I am still searching for definitive data one way or the other.

            In any event, good luck to you. Your article is another contribution to a worthwhile debate. And it is a worthwhile debate as every human being is in someway affected by this rock in the pond.

            Oh, Dr Birx said it is her opinion that COVID was released from the Wuhan lab. Her contention was that this was a fully developed virus in delivery box not one that naturally evolved as there is no viral evolutionary trace.

          3. Stephen Haner Avatar
            Stephen Haner

            Many experts agree. Gottlieb has refused to rule out that scenario. The Chinese are still being secretive. I think it was weapons research.

          4. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            The Chinese military has a biological weapon development and use policy and it is in writing. Very interesting to compare it to real world. Quite evil.

          5. Stephen Haner Avatar
            Stephen Haner

            Find a book called “Biohazard” and read all about what the Russians were up to at the height of the Cold War. Seen any signs in the past six months they are more civilized now?

          6. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            Russian imperialism in the 21st century is only exceeded by the Chinese communists.

    2. Warmac9999 Avatar
      Warmac9999

      Compare that to Israel where 80% of fully vaxxed are in the hospitals.

      1. John Harvie Avatar
        John Harvie

        Where does that “statistic” come from?

        1. Warmac9999 Avatar
          Warmac9999

          From Israeli news. Look up Israeli news on COVID vaccine injuries. There are a number of different stories.

          1. John Harvie Avatar
            John Harvie

            Total BS. Provide a link.

          2. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            I used to play that game now I just give a google reference and you can check out whatever you want. The info on the 80% number is on the first page but not at the top. Time for you to do a little work if you are really interested. I suspect, based on you BS answer, that you don’t want to be informed. I am not going to waste my time chasing news that you will reject out of hand.

    3. Warmac9999 Avatar
      Warmac9999

      Re-read the article. Who is in the most severe condition? Who were admitted for other conditions and tested positive for COVID?

  9. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
    energyNOW_Fan

    Geez, Jim older than me, but in a few weeks I will catch up. My daughter is not happy about boosting 12+ kids, which some activities are requesting. But did it to qualify for the activity.

    I have an adult community activity, we are mandating vax for attendance, which keeps some new members away. I would like to drop it but some existing members want to take a hard line. I am not sure what we accomplish. The main message is it protects from severe illness. Which means the only person at risk (if any) is the unvaxxed person.

    1. Warmac9999 Avatar
      Warmac9999

      Maybe it doesn’t protect from severe COVID illness. Maybe the compromised immune system, which is acknowledge by the CDC, leaves one more susceptible to non-COVID illness.

      By the way, any activity that demands COVID vaccinations for a 12 tear old to participate in an activity isn’t requesting but demanding. Thus a conflict of rights vs responsibility.

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