by Dick Hall-Sizemore

Although the alarm bells have sounded repeatedly on this blog, there has not been a rush to establish public employee bargaining in Virginia. Today, about a year and a half after the General Assembly enacted the authorizing law, and six months after it went into effect, only three jurisdictions have enacted ordinances authorizing collective bargaining, with another jurisdiction, Loudoun County, scheduled to vote on an ordinance on November 10, which seems likely to pass. In contrast, at least three jurisdictions have officially said “no” to collective bargaining.

Furthermore, none of the four collective bargaining ordinances, either adopted or pending to date, include teachers. School boards oversee the schools and will be the ones to consider collective bargaining by their employees, including teachers. So far, no local group of teachers has been authorized to engage in collective bargaining, nor has any group officially requested to do so.

The localities are all in Northern Virginia. In addition to the pending vote in Loudoun, the city of Alexandria and the counties of Fairfax and Arlington have approved a collective bargaining ordinance. One city, Portsmouth, went as far as to have an ordinance drafted by staff, but then backed away when it came to adopting it.

There is no central listing of the status of collective bargaining in localities. For the preparation of this article, I contacted both the Virginia Association of Counties (VACO) and the Virginia Municipal League (VML), asking which of their members had approved collective bargaining or were considering it. Dean Lynch, the VACO executive director responded, saying that his organization was not tracking the actions of localities with respect to collective bargaining. No one from VML responded. I was surprised. I had thought that for such a new, controversial policy issue, both organizations would be keeping abreast of how their members were responding.

Due to the lack of a central point of information, I was limited to an internet search. Therefore, there could be a locality that I have overlooked.

There are two means whereby collective bargaining can get on the agenda of a local governing body. First, the governing body itself can take the initiative by choosing to consider it, directing the staff to draft an ordinance, and then voting on the ordinance. (In the case of school boards, the instrument would be a resolution.) That was the process followed in the four localities that have either adopted a collective bargaining ordinance or have one pending.

If a jurisdiction does not take up the issue on its own initiative, its employees can force the issue. As provided by statute, if a majority of the employees “in a unit considered by such employees appropriate for the purposes of collective bargaining” request the board or council to consider it, the governing body has 120 days to vote on a collective bargaining ordinance (or resolution).

This latter approach was followed in Portsmouth and Prince William County.  On May 1, the first day the law was effective, firefighter and dispatchers presented the Portsmouth city council with a petition, signed by 90% of the eligible personnel, requesting permission to bargain collectively. In mid-September, first responders (police and fire department personnel) submitted similar petitions to the Prince William County Board of Supervisors.

The Portsmouth city council has had an on- and off-again attitude toward collective bargaining. In September, 2020, months before the state collective bargaining statute took effect, the council passed a resolution, unanimously, declaring that its employees would be allowed to engage in collective bargaining.  However, in mid-August of this year, when considering the draft collective bargaining ordinance for firefighters, in response to a petition from that group, the council voted not to authorize firefighters, emergency dispatchers, or any other city workers to bargain collectively. The council’s about-face was in reaction to the estimated cost of $2 million provided by the city’s chief financial officer.

In addition to the jurisdictions already mentioned, there has been some activity in a few other jurisdictions:

  • Virginia Beach: The city council was briefed on the issue in mid-September. The city manager projected that the approval of collective bargaining would result in about $400,000 in annual administrative costs. No action seems to have been taken since that briefing.
  • Charlottesville: In mid-August, the city council voted not to approve a collective bargaining ordinance submitted by firefighters, but directed the city manager to draft a general collective bargaining ordinance. (It is not clear from media reports whether the firefighter’s request had been formally adopted by a majority of the employees of that unit.)
  • Winchester and Clarke County: These two jurisdictions have given preemptive notice they will not participate in collective bargaining.

I have not heard nor read of any activity in the Richmond area related to collective bargaining.

Despite the lack of much formal action, an Internet search makes it clear that the issue is bubbling beneath the surface, especially with regard to firefighters, law enforcement, and teachers. This is not surprising because these groups are the ones most organized. Perhaps it was expected that teachers would have been more active in seeking collective bargaining authorizations than they have been.  However, in perusing material on the Internet, I got the impression that teachers have been so busy coping with the ramifications of COVID and school closings that they have had the time or energy needed to organize petitions for submission to their local school boards for collective bargaining.

Over the next year or so, there are likely to be more petitions submitted by teachers and other local employees to school boards, city and town councils, and county boards of supervisors. But, as demonstrated by Portsmouth, those governing bodies are not required to enact collective bargaining ordinances.

My Soapbox

In advocating for collective bargaining, Phyllis Randall, chairwoman of the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors, emphasized that the county has not been “paying our employees what they were worth by a long shot in the district.” If that is what she and the majority of the board members believe, why not just give county employees healthy raises and avoid the hassle and expense of dealing with an employees’ union authorized to engage in collective bargaining?

In a report to the Board, Loudoun County staff set out the projected fiscal impact of authorizing collective bargaining. The board has already authorized eight positions and $300,000 for contractual services and labor relations administrators. The report indicated that an additional four positions would be needed in the future.

I do not have access to the salary scale used by Loudoun County, but, using a conservative estimate of $100,000, including fringes, for each position, that would amount to an annual cost of at least $1.2 million for those twelve positions. (A board briefing by the Arlington county manager cited an estimated cost of $1.4 million for Loudoun.) If that $300,000 for contractual services is also an annual cost, that would be at least $1.5 million annually for administrative costs tied to collective bargaining. That amount of money could give a lot of employees a healthy raise, especially the lowest paid ones.


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37 responses to “Local Collective Bargaining Off to Slow Start”

  1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    Wait… you mean Dems are really just trying to give localities a say in their own governance and aren’t really trying to force all Virginian to join a union…?! Who knew…?!

  2. LarrytheG Avatar

    Note also in terms of the State allowing localities to decide as opposed to the State mandating:

    ‘Virginia counties vote overwhelmingly to keep Confederate monuments

    Middle Peninsula voters overwhelmingly want to keep their Confederate monuments, according to results of advisory referendums in Mathews and Middlesex counties.”

    https://www.dailypress.com/government/elections/dp-nw-midpen-monuments-20211103-xeux6yo4angkzd3owzdtibybja-story.html

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      And the same voters mainly voted for Sears! Imagine that, the racists!

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        Sears benefitted by being the same party of Youngkin. In prior elections on her own, she didn’t do as well.

        But perhaps the bigger point was that prior to the law that let localities decide, the prior GAs MANDATED that the state decide and seems like a lot of GOP in favor of that and opposed to local choice.

      2. The referendums are non-binding so it will be interesting to see how the Boards of Supervisors of those counties react to the vote counts.

        1. The two new board members in Mathews will make it 4-1 to keep the memorial where it is.

      3. We liked Miyares too.

  3. tmtfairfax Avatar
    tmtfairfax

    The problem with collective bargaining in the public sector is that the motivations are different from those in the private sector. Earlier in my career I supported my employer’s labor relations team, including reviewing contract language and handling a few arbitration cases.

    In private sector bargaining, both sides have a strong motivation to get the best deal for its side, i.e., giving up the least and getting the most. This is fair and balanced. More often than not, the competing interests, coupled with the economic realities of strikes and lockouts, pushes both sides to an agreement.

    But the motivations are fundamentally different with bargaining in the public sector. The union’s incentives are the same, but those of the government agency (including the elected officials who must approve and fund any contract agreement) are very different. They, most especially but not exclusively, Democratic elected officials are dependent on public sector union dues, endorsements and election campaign workers. They have a mixed incentive — keep expenditures down and managerial flexibility up, and keep the labor unions happy and the campaign resources coming. In other words, elected officials have a strong incentive to sell out the public, whereas, the private sector has a strong incentive to keep costs down and profits up.

    If a company or an union gave money or other items of value to the other side, it would be an unfair labor practice. But public sector unions, through their PACs, can give money to elected officials’ campaigns. This is legal corruption. Toss in the pliant MSM that would never think to explore the relationship between campaign contributions and collective bargaining, and we have an ever growing level of selling out the public interest. Maybe that’s why FDR opposed collective bargaining in the public sector.

    And riddle me this, collective bargaining generally covers wages, health and safety, management rights, work conditions, and benefits. So why didn’t Democratic Party governors and Biden bargain with public sector unions over COVID requirements? If a private sector employer with a union contract wanted to impose mandatory vaccination requirements to its union staff, it would need to bargain. Why the difference?

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      If members of local governing bodies take campaign contributions from local businesses and then make decisions that are favorable to business, does that mean they have sold out the interests of the public?

      1. Matt Adams Avatar
        Matt Adams

        Local Governing bodies seldom serve the interest of the people who elected them (see Congress). They serve to enrich themselves and what you’re describing is bribery.

      2. tmtfairfax Avatar
        tmtfairfax

        Dick, at every Fairfax County BoS meeting, the supervisors must disclose whether they’ve received any contributions from any party on the agenda. But that’s different from collective bargaining as the public has a chance to testify on the agenda item. And, in many instances, the BoS will make changes to the applicant’s request. Also, there are many ways for the public to influence the ongoing process. They can meet with staff, meet with the Planning Commissioner(s) or testify if a land use matter, and meet with the supervisor(s) as well as testifying.

        There is no public seat at the collective bargaining table. Negotiation material is not available during the negotiations. It’s very different. What if the County were required to have a majority of its bargaining team consist of private parties with an interest in keeping down county costs and taxes? One would need something like that to help counteract the campaign contributions to elected officials in charge of the bargaining.

        1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
          Dick Hall-Sizemore

          Just to be clear: I am not a proponent of public employee unions.

          Many of the issues you raise are valid ones. I do, however, take issue with the idea that these issues are unique to public employee unions. There is no “public seat” at the table during negotiations with business interests, be it about zoning and subdivision proffers or inducements to be offered a prospective economic development client.

          As for the Fairfax Co. Board of Supervisors members declaring whether they have received contributions from any party on the agenda, I have not heard of that being done by other governing bodies. It is not required by state law that they do this. The Fairfax board deserves credit for establishing this policy.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            Our BOS in Spotsylvania also often makes such statements… we have a School principal as well as a County Employee on the BOS as well as two Federal govt contractors (retired military).

            I THOUGHT when they did that, they cited some Va Code.. but maybe wrong.

          2. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
            Dick Hall-Sizemore

            If they would be personally affected by an issue or have a personal interes, i.e. they work for someone with a board agenda item, they are required to recuse themselves. Campaign contributions don’t count as personal interests. See this Code section: https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/2.2-3112/

          3. tmtfairfax Avatar
            tmtfairfax

            If members of the public express a rational interest in a matter before the Fairfax County BoS and have facts to support their positions, they are likely to have some type of seat at the table. The final 2010 Comp Plan amendment for Tysons was negotiated with both landowners and some community groups. I’ve seen a number of smaller cases involve some level of negotiation.

    2. LarrytheG Avatar

      I agree with you on the motivations – except I’ve seen our Conservative BOS do budgets and they are not opposed to other cuts including employee staffing cuts to stay within budget.

      But on the latter item, I’d ask you what if the Union or the Employer wanted to gut OSHA or other laws affecting public safety and health?

      Some folks refuse to acknowledge nor accept how public health works when it comes to contagious diseases.

      Your “rights” effectively are balanced against harm to others if you can infect them and that very much includes co-workers. This is exactly why some workers refused to return to work – they were concerned that others who refused to be vaccinated could infect others.

      1. tmtfairfax Avatar
        tmtfairfax

        My point remains the same. If an employer with a union contract wanted to require its contract covered employees to receive COVID vaccine, submit to weekly testing or be suspended without pay or fired, the employer would be required to bargain with union before implementing the policy. So why didn’t the feds bargain with unions? Why didn’t governors with union contracts bargain with the unions over COVID requirements?

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          and my point remains the same – laws and EOs that pertain to public health and safety trump agreements with unions and employers.

          You don’t “bargain” with Unions over laws already in place that everyone is subject to.

          The unions bargain for the things they are allowed to – not anything they want.

    3. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      So… Republicans getting campaign donations from businesses and voting to de-regulate those same businesses do NOT have a “strong incentive to sell out the public”…?? Why? Because they are Republicans?

      1. tmtfairfax Avatar
        tmtfairfax

        Look at my response to Dick. The public can know what’s going on with proposed board action and influence it. But they are cut out of the collective bargaining process completely.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          The public has the right to comment but not actually participate in the process itself.

          Even citizens that are members of Planning Commissions that do consider issues – what they provide to the BOS is their advisory opinion.

          This is why we do have elections and as much as some folks become one-issue, it’s usually a bunch and one has to consider overall performance.

          Citizens “participate” by running of office and getting appointed to committees, etc.

          THe Comp Plan that citizens do participate in – basically ends up as a staff recommendation to the BOS AFTER hearing from citizens. Citizens don’t vote for the final decisions.

          I sit on a transportation committee. Everything we do ends up as a recommendation to a higher level group that actually makes decisions – and those are elected.

        2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          As with any other authorizing legislation, the public has its say when the board acts to approve the collective bargaining process itself. The public, for instance, does not have the ability to weigh in on every by-right development but instead on the zoning ordinances which authorize them.

  4. Good reporting, Dick. There is one other angle to pursue, however: campaign contributions. How much money did the public sector unions pump into Democrats’ campaigns this year, and how much did that compare to previous years? If it can be demonstrated that the public-sector unions invested significantly more, it’s a good bet that they are targeting Virginia. If that’s the case, then it would lend credence to the idea, to which you alluded, that there may be a lot of activity beneath the surface right now.

    Conversely, if it was business as usual for public-sector union contributions, then maybe the fears of public-sector unions taking over are overblown.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      It’s coming. Maybe not a fast rush at first, but it’s coming. That is one genie that will remain out of the bottle. It may not include state employees as quickly now, and the the Right to Work principle is safe another four years.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        I thought there was a provision that they cannot strike. Did I remember wrong?

        1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
          Dick Hall-Sizemore

          The prohibition on going on strike remains in place.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            so really all they can do in collectively bargain for work conditions, benefits, fairness in promotions, and fair market-based wages , etc?

          2. tmtfairfax Avatar
            tmtfairfax

            The operative statute says the following about the subjects for collective bargaining, “with respect to any matter relating to them or their employment or service.” I could make a very strong argument for a public sector union that this includes any new condition of employment that would require a covered employee to be vaccinated for COVID and/or be tested weekly at the pain of suspension or dismissal.

            And there is no statute that requires government employees to be vaccinated for COVID. It’s all done by executive fiat. Contrast Virginia law requiring the vaccination of school age children. https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title22.1/chapter14/section22.1-271.2/ With proper exception for religious and medical exception, one could make a good argument that the Commonwealth could pass a law requiring at least most government workers receive a COVID vaccination or be subject to testing. But that wasn’t done. And given the breadth of the statutes governing collective bargaining, I think a union would have a good case that bargaining is required as explained above.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar

            The controlling factors are laws and EOs.

            If this ever goes to the SCOTUS – and they actually take it instead of not taking it – they will rule that Govt has a fundamental responsibility to protect health and welfare which extends to Draconian measures in emergencies.

            No union rule allows them to overrule other govt laws – AND regulations.

            Unions AND employers have to work within laws and regulations and EOs.

            Just imagine what some unions and employers would try to do if they could “agree” to not abide by laws and regulations!

  5. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    West Virginia has an interesting approach to school salaries. One pay scale state wide. There is a equity supplement. It looks like this bumps teachers pay up a notch if they live in higher cost of living area. That would certainly change the name of the game if Virginia went this way. It might be a better way for collective bargaining to play out. School teachers in rural areas might actually get some relief for a change.
    https://wvde.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/State-Salary-Schedules-19.pdf

  6. tmtfairfax Avatar
    tmtfairfax

    Re collective bargaining and COVID measures. See the article about Disney and Emilio Estevez and note the Return-to-Work agreement between the Hollywood studios and major unions that covers vaccinations and other matters. https://deadline.com/2021/11/emilio-estevez-leaving-the-mighty-ducks-game-changers-season-2-gordon-bombay-covid-vaccine-mandate-1234868978/

    This should be a matter of collective bargaining if there are workers covered by a union contract.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      I see this: ” According to sources, Estevez, through his reps, has declined to provide assurances that he would comply with the policy. ”

      So apparently he has his own specific contract – as opposed to being a member of a group that has a contract? I probably don’t understand how someone could be both a member of a union but also have their own separate contract.

      But CLEARLY – the industry is adopting mandates – with or without the govt.

      Seems like a union that opposes the mandate because the govt required the company to comply is not that different than the company adopting the requirement as a non-negotiable policy.

      what would the union sue on?

      that the company can’t make vaccinations a mandatory policy or that the govt cannot?

      So it would seem to be more of a class action challenge of unions against the govt – which they will lose because the govt does have that right and the SCOTUS has so ruled.

      https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/09/08/vaccine-mandate-strong-supreme-court-precedent-510280

      Supreme Court Declines to Block Maine’s Vaccine Mandate

      https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/legal-and-compliance/employment-law/pages/coronavirus-supreme-court-maine-vaccine-mandate.aspx

      1. tmtfairfax Avatar
        tmtfairfax

        Larry, the point is that, if there is an agreement between a company or a government entity with a labor union and it covers terms and conditions of employment, the parties must bargain before a COVID vaccine requirement is imposed. I’m not arguing for or against a requirement. I’ve been vaccinated three times and support others doing the same.

        But the pandemic does not justify throwing out our labor relations laws. And those politicians who voted for expanding collective bargaining rights for public sector workers, here or anywhere else, need to support bargaining for COVID-related issues as they apply to workers covered by the labor agreement.

        I suspect that most unions would be able to reach agreement with employers on the topic. But they have to bargain first.

        I don’t like unions but I respect the law more. The union would sue for an injunction prohibiting the employer from mandating COVID vaccines for workers covered by the union contract until the two sides bargained over the mandate and the terms and conditions thereof. I suspect the union would be successful.

        It’s not that hard. The two parties simply need to sit down and negotiate an agreement that specifies how a vaccine requirement applies and doesn’t apply to workers covered by the contract. Why is this difficult?

        If I work at a company not covered by a union contract or if I’m outside the coverage of such a contract, the employer can make me get a vaccine as a condition of employment, subject to any state or federal laws that would make exceptions.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          TMT – don’t you think labor relation laws are subordinate higher level laws , regulations and EOs?

          They don’t really exist in their own realm with separate laws, right?

          I would think that ANY company or equivalent entity has a direct responsibility to safeguard their workers from threats to their health and welfare and, in fact, could be sued for criminal negligence or civilly if a worker is harmed as a result of work conditions that contributed to an employee’s harm.

          Some health and safety is MANDATED external to a company /union and is not a negotiable item.

          For instance, the company and the union would not negotiate over whether some OSHA rule would be followed or not.

          The OSHA rule is not a negotiable item.

          but as you say, an employer, even without a govt rule, can “mandate” and make it a non-negotiable item.

          So I’m still not clear on what basis a union would oppose it. The employer lays it down as non-negotiable and that’s the end of it.

          I suppose the union could vote to go on strike over it – but they’d have to get a majority vote to do so and that’s not a sure thing if the rest of union members believe in vaccinations and want to work.

          Are we talking past each other on this?

          1. tmtfairfax Avatar
            tmtfairfax

            No, Larry, no. Assuming the OSHA mandate is lawful, here are some labor lawyers writing that “Unionized employers are not obligated to bargain over compliance with legal requirements, but may be required to bargain over the effects. In the context of the new emergency rule, for example, unionized employers may have to bargain over how unvaccinated employees will be treated if they fail to submit a negative COVID-19 test (i.e., termination, suspension, paid leave, unpaid leave, etc.) and/or how religious exemptions to a vaccination requirement will be handled.

            “Bottom Line: OSHA’s vaccine mandate does not necessarily excuse employers from an obligation to bargain over the effects of the mandate on the bargaining unit. Accordingly, employers must carefully review and understand this new standard before unilaterally implementing a broad vaccine policy.”

            https://www.employmentlawspotlight.com/2021/09/breaking-oshas-vaccine-mandate-and-unionized-employer-bargaining-obligations/

            Baker Hostetler is a well-respected law firm.

            This is pretty much labor law 101. If there is a union contract, there needs to be collective bargaining over how a federal COVID-19 vaccine requirement is applied to workers covered by that agreement.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            Okay, I got it. Thanks for your patience!

            So, to the extent a law or regulation is not specific to how it is enforced, it becomes a negotiated aspect?

          3. tmtfairfax Avatar
            tmtfairfax

            We are on the same page, my friend.

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