Latin Mass Churchgoers Witnessed Suspicious Activity After FBI’s ‘Radical-Traditional Catholic’ Memo

Exclusive to The Daily Signalby Tyler O’Neil

Two parishioners at a Latin Mass Catholic church in rural Northern Virginia say they witnessed suspicious activity from what looked like FBI vehicles in February, a month after the FBI’s Richmond office published a now-rescinded internal memo focused on “radical-traditional Catholics.”

The FBI’s Washington, D.C. office, which monitors the church’s area, denied any knowledge of such activity in a statement to The Daily Signal.

The two witnesses told The Daily Signal that they saw two cars approach the church, drive through the parking lot as if they were writing down license plate numbers, and then leave, on two separate instances outside Immaculate Heart of Mary Chapel in Linden, Virginia, some 63 miles west of Washington, D.C., between Feb. 12 and Feb. 26. (The memo had been published on Jan. 23 and rescinded on Feb. 9.)

“I saw a black Ford car with dark tinted windows and a knoblike antenna on the top,” one parishioner, who spoke on the condition on anonymity, told The Daily Signal. “It was driving very slowly by all the cars, and I could see a laptop in the center front.”

“I could not see the person inside, and no one ever got out,” the witness added. “They did leave as soon as they saw me looking at them.”

“I saw a white [Chevrolet] Tahoe car, with very tinted windows and lots of antennas, driving slowly through the parking lot,” the other witness told The Daily Signal, also speaking on the condition of anonymity. “Looked like a male. He had an open laptop in the middle of the car, not sure if he was typing, as the window was very dark.”

“He never got out of the car, but by the time I saw him, he was on his way out, and drove back towards the highway after pulling through,” the second parishioner added. “Not sure how long he was out there, as we were all inside. Everyone else was still inside the chapel, so he must have been going around while we were all inside at Mass/catechism.”

“I suspect that it was the FBI,” the witness added. “However, I could not confirm, since he never got out of the car.”

The witnesses reached out to The Heritage Foundation’s Oversight Project, which connected them with The Daily Signal. (The Daily Signal is The Heritage Foundation’s media outlet.)

Sacred Heart of Mary Chapel is affiliated with the Society of Saint Pius X, a traditional international priestly society that comprises almost 700 priests and supports the Latin Mass.

“The Washington Field Office is not aware of that activity,” the FBI national office, speaking on behalf of its satellite location in D.C., told The Daily Signal in an emailed statement Friday.

The incidents took place about a month after the FBI published an internal memo urging agents to develop “sources with access,” including in “places of worship,” to probe an alleged relationship between “racially or ethnically motivated, violent extremists” and “radical-traditional Catholic ideology.” The memo, dated Jan. 23, cited the Southern Poverty Law Center, a left-leaning litigation nonprofit infamous for branding mainstream conservative and Christian organizations “hate groups,” placing them on a map alongside chapters of the Ku Klux Klan.

After a whistleblower published the memo on Feb. 8, the FBI’s national office rescinded it on Feb. 9.

“While our standard practice is to not comment on specific intelligence products, this particular field office product—disseminated only within the FBI—regarding racially or ethnically motivated violent extremism does not meet the exacting standards of the FBI,” the FBI told The Daily Signal in a statement at the time.

“Upon learning of the document, FBI headquarters quickly began taking action to remove the document from FBI systems and conduct a review of the basis for the document,” the bureau added. “The FBI is committed to sound analytic tradecraft and to investigating and preventing acts of violence and other crimes, while upholding the constitutional rights of all Americans and will never conduct investigative activities or open an investigation based solely on First Amendment-protected activity.”

The FBI national office directed The Daily Signal to remarks from FBI Director Christopher Wray on March 8 before the Senate Intelligence Committee.

“Well, first, let me say that when I first learned of the piece, I was aghast,” Wray said at the time. “And we took steps immediately to withdraw it and remove it from FBI systems. It does not reflect FBI standards.”

“We do not conduct investigations based on religious affiliation or practices, full stop,” the director added. “We have also now ordered our inspection division to take a look at how this happened and try to figure out how we can make sure something like this doesn’t happen again. I will note, it was a product by one field office, which of course we have scores and scores of these products, and when we found out about it, we took action.”

“We do not and will not target people for religious beliefs, and we do not and will not monitor people’s religious practices,” he added. “That’s not acceptable.”

The FBI statements have not addressed why the memo cited the Southern Poverty Law Center. As I explain in my book, “Making Hate Pay: The Corruption of the Southern Poverty Law Center,” the SPLC took the program it used to bankrupt organizations associated with the Ku Klux Klan and weaponized it against conservative groups, partially to scare donors into ponying up cash and partially to silence ideological opponents.

In 2018, then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions said he ordered the Justice Department — of which the FBI is a part — not to partner with groups that “discriminate.” Speaking of the SPLC, Sessions pledged that the Justice Department would not “partner with groups that unfairly defame Americans for standing up for the Constitution or their faith.”

Kyle Seraphin, the former FBI agent who leaked the memo, joined other FBI sources in telling The Daily Signal that the FBI had previously trained analysts not to cite the SPLC.

The Front Royal Police Department, which covers Linden, did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the incidents.

Tyler O’Neil is managing editor of The Daily Signal, where this column first appeared. It is reposted here with permission from The Heritage Foundation.


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41 responses to “Latin Mass Churchgoers Witnessed Suspicious Activity After FBI’s ‘Radical-Traditional Catholic’ Memo”

  1. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    So, now it’s black helicopter stories…. Bat Boy next.

  2. FBI —- our tax dollars at work.

    Changing evidence for a FISA warrant gets your law license suspended for six months. Using known lies for a FISA warrant gets no punishment. Collecting telecommunications on the wrong people 33% of time [1 million out of 3 million spying events] gets no punishment. Not to mention all the other FBI screw ups over the years…..

  3. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    So, now it’s black helicopter stories…. Bat Boy next.

    “After a whistleblower published the memo on Feb. 8, the FBI’s national office rescinded it on Feb. 9.”

    Whistleblowers are covered by law and have to apply for that status. Leakers are not.

    Which is this?

    1. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      Here’s what we know:

      1. The FBI memo written in Richmond (where else?) was real.

      2. The FBI memo cited biased and partisan sources, including the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), Salon, and The Atlantic, to support its assessment.

      3. The memo was internally release on Jan 23, 2023.

      4. The memo was rescinded on Feb 9, 2023.

      Why is it so unbelievable that FBI agents took action between Jan 23 and Feb 9?

      Let’s be honest – the FBI has been a bit of a fiasco since the days of J Edgar Hoover and his “secret enemies list” (or was that a conspiracy theory too?).

      Beyond the enemies list, the FBI has been found to have conducted illegal domestic surveillance, conducted covert operations on political groups, spied on Puerto Rican independence supporters, infiltrated Latin American governments, defamed Viola Liuzzo after an FBI informant was involved in her murder, participated in the killing of 76 people in Waco, killed Randy Weaver’s wife and child at Ruby Ridge, impeded the investigation into campaign contributions by the Communist Chinese to the Democratic Party in 1996, swept their agent-involved shootings under the rug, kept Whitey Bulger as an informant, employed Robert Hanssen – a convicted spy now serving 15 consecutive life sentences, assassinating Filiberto Ojeda Rios, impersonating an AP reporter, failing to act on a tip about the Stoneman Douglas High School shooter a month before he killed 17 people, and botching the Hilary Clinton e-mail investigation.

      After all that, do you really think it’s beyond the pale that some agents, acting on an official memo, cruised a Catholic Church parking lot looking at license plates?

    2. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      Here’s what we know:

      1. The FBI memo written in Richmond (where else?) was real.

      2. The FBI memo cited biased and partisan sources, including the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), Salon, and The Atlantic, to support its assessment.

      3. The memo was internally release on Jan 23, 2023.

      4. The memo was rescinded on Feb 9, 2023.

      Why is it so unbelievable that FBI agents took action between Jan 23 and Feb 9?

      Let’s be honest – the FBI has been a bit of a fiasco since the days of J Edgar Hoover and his “secret enemies list” (or was that a conspiracy theory too?).

      Beyond the enemies list, the FBI has been found to have conducted illegal domestic surveillance, conducted covert operations on political groups, spied on Puerto Rican independence supporters, infiltrated Latin American governments, defamed Viola Liuzzo after an FBI informant was involved in her murder, participated in the killing of 76 people in Waco, killed Randy Weaver’s wife and child at Ruby Ridge, impeded the investigation into campaign contributions by the Communist Chinese to the Democratic Party in 1996, swept their agent-involved shootings under the rug, kept Whitey Bulger as an informant, employed Robert Hanssen – a convicted spy now serving 15 consecutive life sentences, assassinating Filiberto Ojeda Rios, impersonating an AP reporter, failing to act on a tip about the Stoneman Douglas High School shooter a month before he killed 17 people, and botching the Hilary Clinton e-mail investigation.

      After all that, do you really think it’s beyond the pale that some agents, acting on an official memo, cruised a Catholic Church parking lot looking at license plates?

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        “Why is it so unbelievable that FBI agents took action between Jan 23 and Feb 9?”

        Because they did nothing between Dec 31, 2020 and Jan 7, 2021?

        So, a leaker.

        This is why there are IGs. Far more likely to gets facts than the buffoon in charge of House Judiciary.

        1. DJRippert Avatar
          DJRippert

          Where is the IG going to come from? Please don’t say the FBI.

          During the period from 1993 to 2011, FBI agents fired their weapons on 289 occasions; FBI internal reviews found the shots justified in all but 5 cases, in none of the 5 cases were people wounded.

          During the period from 2011 to the present, all shootings by FBI agents have been found to be justified by internal investigation.

          However, in a 2002 case in Maryland, an innocent man was shot, and later paid $1.3 million by the FBI after agents mistook him for a bank robber; the internal investigation found that the shooting was justified, based on the man’s actions.

          1. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
            energyNOW_Fan

            We also have the recent case Roy McGrath shot and killed. I do not fault the shooting per se, but FBI is not communicating who shot who

          2. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Apparently, they are much, much better trained in the use of deadly force than local yokels. And they know enough to miss when questionable.

            Normalize that 289 by force size and compare to the normalized number of shootings by state and local police and they will look positively golden.

            Scale?
            https://reason.com/2014/11/21/buffalo-police-shot-92-dogs-since-2011-m/

          3. WayneS Avatar

            Or they are lousy marksmen…

          4. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            You can’t normalize them against local law enforcement.

            They are not patrol officers. By and large they investigate crimes after they have occurred rather than being dispatched to crimes in progress.

            If you want to normalize the FBI, you’d have to normalize them against the Detective Bureaus of local law enforcement.

            Chalk and cheese, as the British say.

  4. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    It remains two unidentified cars in a parking lot and a healthy portion of paranoia. But the FBI memo was mostly paranoia, too, and was properly withdrawn for being stupid.

    1. Lefty665 Avatar
      Lefty665

      Paranoid cops are dangerous.

      Remember, just because you’re paranoid it doesn’t mean no one is after you.

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        Drop the word “paranoid” and you are onto something…

        1. WayneS Avatar

          I won’t question the sincerity of your belief that all cops are dangerous, but have you taken the next step?

          Have you pledged to never call the police, no matter what – even if someone is committing, or has, committed, an egregious crime against you or a member of your family?

        2. WayneS Avatar

          I won’t question the sincerity of your belief that all cops are dangerous, but have you taken the next step?

          Have you pledged to never call the police, no matter what – even if someone is committing, or has committed, an egregious violent crime against you or a member of your family?

          1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Strange logic that. I believe a lawn mower is dangerous. Doesn’t mean I have to stop using them when necessary.

          2. WayneS Avatar

            Not strange at all. Lawnmowers do not have free will. They can and are quite easily handled in a careful and safe manner.

            You are accusing an entire group of thinking, feeling, fellow human beings of being “dangerous”. It would be both foolish and reckless for you to knowingly subject yourself or your family to members of a group you know to be dangerous.

            Many members of biker gangs are very talented motorcycle technicians, but would call a group of Hell’s Angels whom you did not know personally to come to your house and help you work on your bike?

          3. WayneS Avatar

            Not strange at all. Lawnmowers do not have free will. They can and are quite easily handled in a careful and safe manner.

            You are accusing an entire group of thinking, feeling, fellow human beings of being “dangerous”. It would be both foolish and reckless for you to knowingly subject yourself or your family to members of a group you know to be dangerous.

            Many members of biker gangs are very talented motorcycle technicians, but would call a group of Hell’s Angels whom you did not know personally to come to your house and help you work on your bike?

          4. WayneS Avatar

            Not strange at all. Lawnmowers do not have free will. They can and are quite easily handled in a careful and safe manner.

            You are accusing an entire group of thinking, feeling, fellow human beings of being “dangerous”. It would be both foolish and reckless for you to knowingly subject yourself or your family to members of a group you know to be dangerous to people’s health and welfare.

            Many members of biker gangs are very talented motorcycle technicians, but would you call a group of Hell’s Angels whom you did not know personally to come to your house and help you work on your bike?

          5. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            “…would you call a group of Hell’s Angels whom you did not know personally to come to your house and help you work on your bike?”

            I don’t have a motorcycle but I would call them if I need a special kind of security… I would just be very careful in my interactions with them… so… good example….

    2. William O'Keefe Avatar
      William O’Keefe

      Paranoia and stupidity are on the rise.

  5. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    Kyle Seraphin, the alleged whistleblower (alleged because the term may be self-proclaimed) was indefinitely suspended by the FBI in June 2022. According to his interviews on the Don Bongino show, he first came into conflict with the agency when he refused to adhere to a vaccine mandate because, he claimed, he had natural immunity following an infection in October 2020.

    Now, Mr. Seraphin has his own podcast to report on the agency. The Catholic News Agency (02/09/2023) reported that the initial attribution by UncoverDC was Seraphin as the author of the Richmond office memo regarding Catholic involvement in suspicious activities. The CNA noted in the same sentence that Seraphin received the document from another agent who leaked it to him.

    What is, in fact, known is that the origin of the document remains in question as well as the status of its promoter as a whistleblower. There is no doubt that a document existed, but its authenticity is questionable. Conspiracy theories, credibility and the motives of whistleblowers or leakers play prominently in this event.

    1. VaPragamtist Avatar
      VaPragamtist

      “but its authenticity is questionable”

      Has anyone questioned its authenticity?

      1. Lefty665 Avatar
        Lefty665

        No, and Wray admitted it was real.

        This is just another in a long line of Jim McCarthy silly walks.

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          Do your research before attesting to the memo’s genuineness. It may as you quote Wray be “real” but its provenance is questionable as noted in the comment above. In fact, Wray in writing characterized the document as a “product” of the Richmond office violative of FBI policy. In addition, the credibility of Seraphin is in play.

          Your facetiousness reflects a longer line of dizzy ambulation than mine.

          1. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Oh oh, dizzy ambulation, it’s another Jim McCarthy silly walk. You’re getting into Spiro Agnew territory. Congrats.

          2. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            When I’m visiting there, I’ll be sure to say hello to you on one of your silly walks.

          3. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            That’s weak, I expect better of you. No Jim McCarthy silly walk award this time.

          4. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Does the staleness of your commentary qualify as weak? I do not expect better of you since you have proven to be so consistent and stale.

          5. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            Lefty – James McCarthy has indeed become a nattering nabob of negativism.

            The memo was real.

      2. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        The Catholic News Agency reported that Seraphin was both author and the person to whom the document was leaked which opened the issue of its authenticity. The Richmond memo was dated after Seraphin had been suspended from the agency. As such he is not a whistleblower as a non-active employee. The ambiguity opens the potential that the leak concerned a made-up issue. The Heritage article names Seraphin also as a whistleblower and leaker.

        1. VaPragamtist Avatar
          VaPragamtist

          I still don’t follow.

          Is the FBI questioning the authenticity of the memo?

          You seem to be basing the question of authenticity on tertiary data: one article by the Catholic News Agency that says that Serpahin “is listed by UncoverDC as the author of the document.”

          https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/253600/fbi-retracts-leaked-document-orchestrating-investigation-of-catholics

          Maybe it’s just me, but I’m not seeing that anywhere in the UncoverDC article:

          https://www.uncoverdc.com/2023/02/08/the-fbi-doubles-down-on-christians-and-white-supremacy-in-2023/

          But even the FBI isn’t saying “this isn’t real.” They’re saying “we have a ton of these in various stages of acceptability. This one never should have seen the light of day because it doesn’t meet our standards.”

          1. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            The circumstances surrounding the exposure of the document create questions including authorship. The existence of the document moves into its fifth month without a clue about the possible creator in the Richmond office. The “whistleblower/leaker” has created a media persona to explain his conduct since being suspended by the agency. The Heritage article offers little other than some eyewitness (???) sightings of FBI (???) vehicles observing (???) activity at a Catholic Church in northern VA. The “real” nature of the document is questionable. The potential that its reality is a false flag remains open.

            If the Catholic News Agency is incorrect, the citation is its error. More fodder to raise questions.

          2. VaPragamtist Avatar
            VaPragamtist

            “If the Catholic News Agency is incorrect, the citation is its error. More fodder to raise questions.”

            If a tertiary data source (CNA) is incorrect in their reporting of a secondary data source (UncoverDC), then that raises questions about the primary data source (the leaked document)?

            “The circumstances surrounding the exposure of the document create questions including authorship.”

            Even the agency that has the most to gain by raising these questions–the FBI–doesn’t seem to be denying it’s authenticity. Are you implying that it’s fake and/or created by Seraphin himself? If so, just say that. And if that was the case, why hasn’t the FBI said this?

            “The existence of the document moves into its fifth month without a clue about the possible creator in the Richmond office.”

            I imagine that’s because the FBI has internal policies for memos, including “we’ll deal with the jackass who wrote it internally, but we won’t hang him out to dry.”

          3. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            The FBI has not confirmed the document’s authenticity, only that it was a “ product” in the Richmond office and contrary to its policies. In that sense, the document is “ real” but may not be an authentic investigatory issue in the same way a photo of the Mona Lisa is merely a copy, not the original. Mr. Seraphim who surfaced the document and promotes its nefarious meaning may have received the document from someone within the Richmond office. It’s possible the document is a hoax or a deliberate embarrassment for political ends.

  6. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    If the FBI wanted to check out the license plates of cars parked in a lot, they have much more subtle ways of doing so.

    But if someone wanted to troll Conservative Catholics on Sunday…

    1. WayneS Avatar

      If the FBI wants you to know you are being watched, they can be far from subtle in their surveillance techniques.

      And besides, FBI agents are federal cops, and all cops dangerous – at least that is what you recently intimated on another comment thread here at BR. That being your belief, why would attempt to defend the FBI?

      Is it that their target this time appears to be someone you don’t like? Did you really mean to say on that other thread that “all cops are dangerous, but that’s okay as long as they stick to violating the rights of my enemies”?

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        Who is defending the FBI here? Just questioning if this is real or imaginary on the part of the Conservative Catholics.

        1. DJRippert Avatar
          DJRippert

          The memo was real. Even the FBI can successfully investigate their own e-mail systems.

          Given the memo, I’m not sure why it is considered paranoid for people attending a Latin Mass in rural Virginia to question the activities of vehicles “slow rolling” through the parking lot of the church during Mass.

          I go to Mass regularly (English). Sometimes I peer out into the parking lot rather than listening to the priest’s homily.

          It would be very unusual to see vehicles slowly proceeding through the parking lots during Mass.

          If I saw vehicles with what appear to be license plate readers “slow rolling” the parking lot, I’d have some questions to ask.

    2. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      Not really. I see Fairfax County police cruisers patrolling shopping center parking lots with cameras mounted on the back of the cars to photograph the license plates all the time. It’s obvious what they are doing. Less obvious is why they are doing that. I give them the benefit of the doubt by assuming they are looking for stolen cars.

      However, not everybody is as trusting of the police as I am.

      This was an issue in the 2023 Virginia General Assembly session.

      https://www.virginiamercury.com/2023/02/23/license-plate-reader-bills-abruptly-die-in-virginia-legislature/

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