Larry Sabato Is the One Living in a “Post-Factual” World

by James A. Bacon

Larry Sabato has lost it. There was a time early in his career when the University of Virginia political science professor paid close attention to Virginia politics and spoke insightfully about it. But as he grew ever more successful as an author, director of the UVa Center for Politics, and a nationally quoted pundit, he increasingly became an observer of the national scene. As his focus became more national in scope, he lost touch with Virginia — at least the Virginia that lay outside the bubble of the Peoples’ Republic of Charlottesville — and he adopted the frame of reference common to the Washington Post, New York Times, cable news outlets, and Leftist punditocracy generally.

Sabato’s disconnect from Virginia political reality was abundantly clear in a series of interviews he gave MSNBC on election day.

When asked how Virginia could have swung from electing Joe Biden by a 10-point margin to giving an edge to Republican Glenn Youngkin, the Sage of Charlottesville noted Biden’s declining popularity and the Congressional Democrats’ circular firing squad. But, ultimately, he said, the gubernatorial election in Virginia was all about race.
Said Sabato:

One of the candidates decided [race] was his ticket to the governor’s mansion, and he may well be right. The operative word is not “critical.” And it’s not “theory.” It’s race. What a shock, huh? Race. That is what matters. And that’s why it sticks. There’s a lot of — you can call it White backlash. White resistance. Whatever you want to call it, it has to with race. We live in a post-factual era anyway. … It doesn’t matter that it isn’t taught in Virginia schools. It’s this generalized attitude that Whites are being put upon and we’ve got to do something about it — “we” being White voters.

Sabato didn’t explicitly call Republican voters “racists,” but that’s the sub-text.

Yes, the same Republicans who just elected a Black female immigrant as lieutenant governor and a Hispanic as Attorney General were engaged in a White backlash.

That would be the same Republicans who captured 13% of the Black vote, 31% of the Hispanic vote, and 34% of the Asian vote, according to Washington Post exit polls.

It may be true that we live in a “post-factual era,” but Sabato is the one who is not acquainted with the facts. He has totally absorbed Democratic Party talking points that depict the controversy over CRT as Republicans wanting to suppress the teaching of the “real” history of slavery and race in Virginia.

Every conservative I know personally, every conservative pundit I have read, and Glenn Youngkin himself, has made it crystal clear that an honest teaching of Virginia history means coming to terms with slavery, racism, and segregation. What we oppose is a curriculum that that imposes upon that history the doctrinaire conclusion that Virginia (and the nation) were conceived in sin, that racism is ubiquitous today, that Whites are oppressors and Blacks are victims. I don’t think most conservatives would even oppose teaching that as one possible interpretation of American history — as long as students were also exposed to the alternative view of American history as a long painful march toward the fulfillment of its founding ideals. The ultimate goal, of course, would be to teach students to think rigorously and independently.

Moreover, the issue is so much bigger than what is taught in the classroom today. At stake are the policies and guidelines that shape behavior and attitudes outside the academic curriculum, especially the idea, derived from critical race theory, that policy must be guided by “equity” — equal group outcomes — and corollaries of that idea, that school curricula, teacher training, disciplinary practices, and academic standards must be bent toward that single goal — regardless of how deleterious it may for overall student achievement and minority student achievement.

If the election was “all about race” for anyone, it was for Terry McAuliffe who, just before the election, spouted off the extraordinary notion that the large majority of White teachers was out of whack with the majority of non-White students in public schools, and that he was going to do something about it. McAuliffe made the election more explicitly about race than Youngkin ever did.

But, yeah, Republicans are the ones living in a post-factual world.


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46 responses to “Larry Sabato Is the One Living in a “Post-Factual” World”

  1. But Sears is not a real ‘black’ – just ask Biden – and Miyares is not a real Hispanic because of that pesky [R]. Like Condy Rice — they are the ‘new face’ of white supremacy…… it’s very evident. Sabato truly believes this dribble!

    1. Too many Democrats and progressives seem to embrace a variation of the notion that people who do not support the politically correct ideas supposedly associated with their race or class or identity are exhibiting “false consciousness.”

    2. LarrytheG Avatar

      I know this may come as a shock but Dems don’t unilaterally and unquestioningly support someone because they are black or Hispanic! Thinking that is REALLY racist! no?

      1. DJRippert Avatar

        So, you didn’t vote for the GOP LG and AG?

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          I don’t vote skin color… sorry… and I know this is a shock but a lot of folks don’t but yes, some do… and some think that way.

        2. Matt Adams Avatar
          Matt Adams

          He provided you lots of words for a yes or no question. I also don’t think he answered your question, as per usual.

  2. Steve Gillispie Avatar
    Steve Gillispie

    It’s interesting that the polls seem to be saying the issue most cited by polled voters was jobs which makes almost everyone tied up in the school and CRT issue on both sides wrong.

    Partisanship corrupts IQ. Absolute partisanship corrupts IQ absolutely.

    1. No it doesn’t. First, just because issue A is more important to someone than issue B doesn’t mean that issue B isn’t extremely important to him.
      Second, the quasi-CRT issue is extremely important. “CRT” is just a synecdoche for the whole weird cluster of bizarre pseudo-scientific recent Continental philosophy and literary theory that constitutes the core of the contemporary left. CRT is kind of just their flagship variety of crazy. And that cluster of incoherent and otherwise terrible philosophical ideas is (a) dangerous as hell and (b) seeping into just about every institution–especially educational ones. My university, for example, has adopted it as their de facto philosophy. It pervades the hundreds of open letters, positions statements, and policies that we issue non-stop on “diversity” and “anti-racism.” If you’re not concerned about that stuff…well…you should be.

  3. LarrytheG Avatar

    re: ‘ What they oppose is a curriculum that that imposes upon that history the doctrinaire conclusion that Virginia (and the nation) were conceived in sin, that racism is ubiquitous today, that Whites are oppressors and Blacks are victims. I don’t think most conservatives would even oppose teaching that as one possible interpretation of American history — as long as students were also exposed to the alternative view of American history as a long painful march toward the fulfillment of its founding ideals. ”

    WHO on the political left in Va has actually said these words and advocated for it? NO candidates nor appointed VDOE have advocated this in curriculum.

    This is the message that conservatives have said.(by citing Kenzi and others) even though it’s not in any curriculum and highly questionable that it is taught by any teacher much less a school or school system.

    The GOP has basically undermined trust in govt and institutions, like science, like higher ed and now K-12 by misinformation, disinformation and outright conspiracy theories – and people ARE buying them.

    Now that they have succeeded – like the dog chasing the car, it will be interesting to see how they proceed.

    1. Randy Huffman Avatar
      Randy Huffman

      There have been articles that say there is evidence of CRT being pushed in the school systems over the years, here is one I read a couple weeks ago.

      https://thefederalist.com/2021/10/14/explosive-documents-prove-mcauliffes-administration-pushed-crt-in-virginia-schools/

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        You do acknowledge who is saying this right?

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ef1738ea88a1042bb4930062806f29070842c814cad9c951447572cd1cbd6dca.jpg

        https://christopherrufo.com/mcaullifes-crt-lie/

        this is EXACTLY what is meant by disinformation …

        when you say: ” pushed in the school systems over the years”

        does that mean it is TAUGHT?

        what does “pushed” actually mean?

        that VDOE was involved in looking at schoo discipline issues… and racism?’

        This is how the GOP has to do to win these days apparently.

        1. Randy Huffman Avatar
          Randy Huffman

          I have no idea if CRT is taught in schools since I am not in the school system and my sons have long graduated, but I have read about other parents who said it is taught to their kids. It is the Dem’s who draw a line in the sand and say it is not taught, but yet there is evidence it is pushed by their own Administration, what more do you need?

          And who cares who produced this evidence? If he has documents to show, by all means, lets see it…

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            You may have no idea but does that mean you believe what you want to believe based on one parents claim?

            Does “pushed” mean in the curricula and taught?

            or does that even matter?

            Clearly not to some.

          2. Randy Huffman Avatar
            Randy Huffman

            We all know darn well it doesn’t need to be in the curricula to be taught. And it wasn’t one parent in the news complaining about it. I’ll leave it there.

    2. DJRippert Avatar

      “The GOP has basically undermined trust in govt and institutions, like science, like higher ed and now K-12 by misinformation, disinformation and outright conspiracy theories – and people ARE buying them.”

      Thank God that America still has geniuses like yourself to know the truth!

  4. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
    energyNOW_Fan

    I more agreed with pundit Thomas Freidman on TV last week, who said the Democrats have gone too left for America. Democrats have wanted to ban fossil fuels since 2016, is probably why Trump won in my view. Freidman’s proposed solution however seemed to be that Democrats should maintain their progressive extremism (eg; 3.5 Trillion social package) and do a better job of communicating why progressives have the only valid solution for America.

    1. Too many politicians and pundits (not just Democrats) have a bad habit of rushing to “explain” electoral defeats and political setbacks as being the result of poor messaging and the need to better communicate their policies to the public. Sometimes poor messaging is a factor. But, often the voters have heard and understood the messaging and simply reject it.

      1. Matt Adams Avatar
        Matt Adams

        It’s far easier to say well we didn’t message or right or find an excuse than to do a deep dive into what really happened. Ain’t no one got time for self-reflection, it’s always someone else’s fault.

  5. James C. Sherlock Avatar
    James C. Sherlock

    Larry Sabato was informed early on by his deep and personal hatred of George Allen. They went to UVa together. George played football. I’m not sure what Sabato’s leisure pursuits were.

    But something happened there. Larry despises George Allen way past his politics. It’s personal.

    I’m not sure that George knew back then or cares now what Sabato thinks.

    But looking past that, for many years Sabato earned the reputation as perhaps the most popular professor at UVa. As I said, he earned it. He was that good, and certainly was not one known for edgy leftist views.

    Not sure what happened there. Perhaps too much time at the Colonnade Club with the rest of the faculty.

    It is too bad for his students that he has turned into a political hack.

    1. killerhertz Avatar
      killerhertz

      He probably banged his g/f. Sabato is a beta cuck hasbeen.

  6. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    “…as long as students were also exposed to the alternative view of American history as a long painful march toward the fulfillment of its founding ideals…”

    More like a long, painful dragging by one party of a unwilling foe into the light…

    1. “We don’t teach high schoolers about the racist, rotting heart of the American national project…but we would, if only it weren’t for those goshdarn Trumpkins!”

      My two siblings and I are products of the FCPS system. My youngest sibling is still in that system. I occasionally grab beers with one of my old teachers. CRT as panned by the Fox crowd isn’t taught, at least not at max volume. But administrators and instructors are — as a class — absolutely, 100%, sympathetic to the notion of white original sin. Give them a long enough leash and they’ll redesign the curriculum wholesale to make it fit.

  7. LarrytheG Avatar

    Sabato is far from alone on that viewpoint…. it’s in a lot of other commentary.

  8. tmtfairfax Avatar
    tmtfairfax

    Joe “Let’s Go Brandon” Biden is a mess. Putting aside his mental limitations, he campaigned on competence and uniting people. He’s delivered incompetence and a surrender to the Woke.

  9. Scott McPhail Avatar
    Scott McPhail

    I wish Democrats would make up their mind- does CRT have no influence on education in Virginia(in fact it may not even exist) OR CRT is just teaching about race in America and it is in fact impossible to each without it.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      Let’s see what Youngkin does to “eradicate” it!

      😉 .. We may see some GOP versions of “virtue signaling” !

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Those are formally called “dog whistles”.

    2. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Is the Moon made of cheese? Teaching American history from a black perspective, or postulating theories to “level” racial differences in society is not CRT. Nor is it Marxism.

      “My other car is a Porsche”

  10. In Sabato’s defense: broadcast networks are incredibly vindictive when it comes to guests and paid commentators going off-script. He couldn’t very well countermand his hosts without risking inclusion on MSNBC’s blacklist. This guy — as with most commentators — keeps his career by saying the right thing to the right audience at the right moment. He’s a weasel, but we all knew that before Tuesday. The same lessons apply to other regular network guests.

    Very few of these top-tier politicos live in a “post-factual world.” They just know their audience.

    And in defense of the Center: Kyle Kondik has been pretty levelheaded about Tuesday’s results. He identifies Youngkin’s win as stemming more from national discontent rather than education policy, but I think he says that out of sincerity rather than obfuscation.

    1. dick dyas Avatar

      What about discontent with Northam, probably the worst governor in Virginia history?
      I hope VMI alumni commence removing his name from all alumni directories and records.

      1. I get the sense very few Virginians think about Northam on a weekly let alone daily basis. Northam certainly didn’t help McAuliffe’s campaign, but I’ve yet to hear an IRL acquaintance say they voted they way they did because of the current governor.

      2. Jake Spivey Avatar
        Jake Spivey

        He will remain an alumnus. I doubt he’ll attend any future reunins with his Brother Rats. He has only himself and his Klan hood wearing spouse to blame.

    2. Scott McPhail Avatar
      Scott McPhail

      it wasn’t just the network broadcasts. He was prominently featured in The Guardian the other day saying the election was all about “white backlash”- but there was no mention of McAuliffe’s parent/ schools comment or the school rape in Fairfax.

      1. The preponderance of those who care about such issues aren’t reading The Grauniad. He knows his audience.

  11. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    The Great Sabatini is still standing by his prediction that Doug Wilder would never be able to win statewide. If the press keeps calling, he’ll keep talking, but he hasn’t actually gotten any smarter or wiser than then. Just another old white guy out of touch and living in the past. I feel his confusion… 🙂

  12. Scott McPhail Avatar
    Scott McPhail

    Soooo, the party has spent that has spent the last 4 years that they have occupied the Governor’s Mansion looking at every conceivable issue through the lens of race AND in fact have been saying that you MUST always consider race at all times in every circumstance are NOW saying, “Look at those redneck rubes obsessing over race.”

  13. DJRippert Avatar

    Chris Cilliza had the right point (#3 of his 5 points):

    3. “Wokeness” is a major problem. That Youngkin ran and won on education should be a wake up call to every single Democratic elected official and party strategists in the country. Education has long been a Democratic issue but Youngkin was able to flip it on its head by focusing on the idea of “woke” teachers and administrators pushing things on kids — everything from transgender issues to race — that are simply inappropriate. Among the 1 in 4 Virginia voters who said education was the most important issue facing voters, Youngkin won by 11 points. “The people want the center not the woke nonsense or Trump imbecility,” tweeted Anthony Scaramucci, a Republican and former Trump ally. CNN’s Van Jones largely agreed, noting that his party comes across as “annoying and offensive and seem out of touch in ways that I don’t think show up in our feeds, when we’re looking at our echo chamber.” It’s hard not to see the success of Youngkin’s messaging on education as a reaction to the liberal echo chamber — most prominently featured on Twitter — that seeks to tell people what they can say and what they can’t. That rejection of politically correctness was at the center of Trump’s appeal to voters and appears to have continued on even after he has left office.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      Youngkin promised to allow parents to choose any school for their kids.

      That was one of the premises of NCLB that never really got done.

      My bet is that it will be very hard for him to do since schools in predominately higher income neighborhoods will vociferously oppose “importing” such economically disadvantaged kids and the schools themselves will see them as threats to their SOL scores. Youngkin will also have to figure out some kind of transportation for them.

      This will have to be shepherded through new VDOE appointees… and directives…

      VDOE will have to be “de-woked”.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        I’d rather buy the Brooklyn Bridge than sell it.

        1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          If you want to buy it, go to a famous seller. https://twitter.com/AOC

  14. LarrytheG Avatar

    re: ” But, ultimately, he said, the gubernatorial election in Virginia was all about race.
    Said Sabato:

    One of the candidates decided [race] was his ticket to the governor’s mansion, and he may well be right. The operative word is not “critical.” And it’s not “theory.” It’s race. What a shock, huh? Race. That is what matters. And that’s why it sticks. There’s a lot of — you can call it White backlash. White resistance. Whatever you want to call it, it has to with race. We live in a post-factual era anyway. … It doesn’t matter that it isn’t taught in Virginia schools. It’s this generalized attitude that Whites are being put upon and we’ve got to do something about it — “we” being White voters.

    Sabato didn’t explicitly call Republican voters “racists,” but that’s the sub-text.”

    The simple fact is that the believe that CRT was being taught AND those that believed it said and it was repeated over and over in BR that it was teaching white kids that they were benefiting from “white privilege”, and racism.

    Now -is that is not about race what is? How is that “counter-factual”?

    JAB seems to posit that because the GOP had people of color on the ticket or have supported other “good” “pro-black” causes that the anti-CRT movement is not about race and that CRT was not a pivotal aspect of the election. Seems to be in denial of obvious facts.

    Maybe he might rethink it but this seems to be a long-continuing conflict in BR commentary.

  15. The left has become completely detached from reality, and perhaps the most notable way in which they’re detached is that they think that everybody else–right, center, and moderate left–who opposes them are all detached from it. The very people who insist–to take just one prominent example–that men can become women just by saying so…think the rest of us are nuts.
    I used to take a certain amount of pleasure in seeing how undeniably crazy they’ve become…but now it’s just getting creepy.

  16. Wahoo'74 Avatar
    Wahoo’74

    Jim, you are spot on. Very sad to see my UVA classmate twist the facts and stoop so low as to play the overt race card. He’s gone hard left. Pity.

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