Jeanine’s Memes

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31 responses to “Jeanine’s Memes”

    1. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      Gotta love progressives. First, they insist that history be taught according to what actually happened. Then, they want to eliminate facts that somehow disturb their narrative.

      1. Some slaves definitely learned valuable job skills while enslaved. From Encyclopedia Virginia: “In November 1818, an enslaved man called Carpenter Sam began tinwork at the site and eventually contributed to the construction of two pavilions and three hotels. In May 1820, an enslaved man named Elijah began hauling quarried stone, and in February of the following year the slave William Green was hired to perform blacksmithing duties.”

      2. Some slaves were paid by their masters. From monticello.org – “The amount of money was drastically less than what a white worker would have received for the same labor, but Jefferson paid some skilled workmen (coopers and charcoalburners) special premiums for productivity and efficiency.”

      Slavery was an obscene institution and the vast majority of slaves were never taught any skills. They worked their lives away as field hands and lived in generally deplorable conditions.

      However, some slaves were taught skills and some slaveowners paid their skilled slaves – although far less than what a White person with the same skills would have earned.

      If you want to teach truthful history then you have to teach the truth.

      1. Nathan Avatar

        “Then, they want to eliminate facts that somehow disturb their narrative.”

        In this particular case, I think the motivation is primarily to discredit a successful Republican governor who is viewed as a potential threat to their hold on African American voters.

        In some ways, progressive denial of historic facts related to slavery diminishes from their story.

        A complete understanding of history demonstrates vividly the many evils of slavery and the intelligence and capability of those subjected to slavery. True history shows in tangible ways the lunacy of slave owners who thought themselves superior to their slaves.

        Taken from Booker T. Washington’s Up From Slavery:

        “The slave system on our place, in a large measure, took the spirit of self-reliance and self-help our of the white people”

        Once slavery ended, many plantation owners lacked the knowledge and skills necessary to maintain and manage their own property.

        “On the other hand, the slaves, in many cases, had mastered some handicraft, and none were ashamed, and few unwilling, to labour.”

        Obviously there’s lots more to the story, but this is a part of our history of slavery that should be included. It in no way diminishes the evil of slavery or the suffering of those enslaved.

      2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        Based on this logic, textbooks now need to stress that the Dachau freezing experiments have actually been beneficial in some research into the treatment of hypothermia. New AP curriculum material! Because a simple “Nazi were evil” narrative is so Woke…

      3. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        All for the benefit of others. That’s why it is called ‘slavery’.

      4. Nathan Avatar

        “Then, they want to eliminate facts that somehow disturb their narrative.”

        In this particular case, I think the motivation is primarily to discredit a successful Republican governor who is viewed as a potential threat to their hold on African American voters.

        In some ways, progressive denial of historic facts related to slavery diminishes from their story.

        A complete understanding of history demonstrates vividly the many evils of slavery and the intelligence and capability of those subjected to slavery. True history shows in tangible ways the lunacy of slave owners who thought themselves superior to their slaves.

        The quotes below are taken from Booker T. Washington’s Up From Slavery:

        “The slave system on our place, in a large measure, took the spirit of self-reliance and self-help out of the white people”

        Once slavery ended, many plantation owners lacked the knowledge and skills necessary to maintain and manage their own property.

        “On the other hand, the slaves, in many cases, had mastered some handicraft, and none were ashamed, and few unwilling, to labour.”

        Obviously there’s lots more to the story, but this is a part of our history of slavery that should be included. It in no way diminishes the evil of slavery or the suffering of those enslaved.

        1. how_it_works Avatar
          how_it_works

          “Once slavery ended, many plantation owners lacked the knowledge and skills necessary to maintain and manage their own property.”

          Some would suggest that their descendants lack the knowledge and skills necessary to run a Commonwealth….or a 2-car funeral.

        2. CJBova Avatar

          In fact, it’s an enduring testimony to the strength of spirit of those who were enslaved to rise above their suffering.

          1. Nathan Avatar

            The quotes are Booker T. Washington’s own words. Should our history of slavery exclude the testimony of those who actually suffered under it?

          2. Nathan Avatar

            The quotes are Booker T. Washington’s own words. Should our history of slavery exclude the testimony of those who actually suffered under it?

        3. how_it_works Avatar
          how_it_works

          “Once slavery ended, many plantation owners lacked the knowledge and skills necessary to maintain and manage their own property.”

          Some would suggest that their descendants lack the knowledge and skills necessary to run a Commonwealth….or a 2-car funeral.

      5. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        “First, they insist that history be taught according to what actually happened.”

        So Woke aren’t they…

        1. Cherry-picking by Eric the half a troll? Say it ain’t so!

          1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            “Selective editing”… ‘tis so… of course I am not a blog “journalist”… merely a trolly commenter…

            But you’ve got to admit… looks like something of a Freudian slip there, eh…

      6. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        “ From Encyclopedia Virginia”. Oh yeah, there’s an unbiased source.

        What that ignores is that they would have learned similar skills as free men in the land from which they were taken and would have been entrepreneurial there.

        And it ignores that the skills learned here only became of benefit to them when they were freed against the will of their “benefactors”. Accidental American Entrepreneurs.

        There’s an equivalent “white” example from the same time period. You’re a Connecticut lawyer out with your cohorts celebrating a “big contract”, and after imbibing a wee much, wake up 20 miles at sea. In the next year, you will learn valuable skills, even though you had a perfectly good set of skills already.

        1. how_it_works Avatar
          how_it_works

          I’ve read a lot of the content on “Encyclopedia Virginia” and there’s a lot less fawning over all things Virginia than I would have expected.

    2. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      American History 2125, “In the late 20th and early 21st centuries, these 15-year old runaways picked up by “benefactors” at various inner city locations, like a bus station, were provided with food and medications for their mental health, and taught valuable life and medical skills. ‘This is a canker sore’.”

      1. This is a totally contrived controversy, and anyone familiar with history should know that.

        If Kamala Harris finds it objectionable, she doesn’t need to go all the way to Florida to protest. There are national parks much closer teaching essentially the same thing.

        From Slavery to Freedom: Different Journeys to Liberty

        Lesson Two – A House Slave: Acquiring Skills

        Students analyze objects to determine what skills a house slave needed to complete assigned tasks. Students explore the potential marketability of these skills.

        F. Background and Historical Context

        Many African Americans used the skills they acquired as a slave and applied them to wage labor. Some former slaves occupied temporary Freedmen Villages while others simply continued to work as wage labor for their previous masters. While Freeman Villages were rare and short lived, they provided African Americans with temporary communities.

        https://www.nps.gov/museum/tmc/slavery/from_slavery_to_freedom.html

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Skills they wouldn’t have needed to acquire living as free men in their own lands.

          1. Obviously, but that’s not what the controversy is about.

            The controversy is about the including that point in the history of slavery in this country. It’s a part of that history, and it’s not just taught in Florida, but it’s also in the lesson plans for our national parks.

            Why are you and other partisan liberals obsessing over a single line in 200+ pages of curriculum detailing the horrors of slavery? And why aren’t you protesting the national park curriculum which teaches the same thing?

  1. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Conservatism. “☎️👨🏻‍🏫🐋⛵️👌”

  2. If anyone has questions about the proposed Florida curriculum about slavery, they would benefit from listening to Dr. William Allen, who was a member of the workgroup that developed it.

    Dr. William Allen, former Chair of the United States Commission on Civil Rights discusses controversial Florida curriculum on African American studies on TWISF

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEl7mRVbSAo

    1. How dare Dr. Allen reject a facile and simplistic democrat position. Joe Biden would probably tell him he “ain’t black”.

      Seriously, though, the entire discussion was great and well worth listening to, but I particularly liked his explanation of “inference” vs “implication”.

      1. Dr. Allen is extremely articulate and impressive.

        As a white guy, I doubt I would have chosen those exact words for the curriculum, but I’m hardly in a position to challenge his opinion, or the group consensus.

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