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37 responses to “Jeanine’s Memes”
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If you like your plan, you can keep your plan…
Try to be honest
Has healthcare improved since?
Capabilities have.
Has delivery? (Be honest)
Has the increased federal involvement improved results?
The one size fits all Covid tyranny killed people and civil liberties.
Covid death counts are a manipulation tool, and worsened by the government policies.
Many people die during the flu spikes.
We are experiencing excess deaths now post-Covid. Why?
Meanwhile, ivermectin and HCQ when used early had positive effects. Morbid obesity usually was an indicator for risk. As was low Vitamin D. Lockdowns didn’t help that. Nor did masking.
Besides regular freedom, we need medical freedom.-
Another Covid-19 truther who refuses to acknowledge that death rates went up 15% durin gthe pandemic.
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Reasoned argument.
What is a “Covid 19 truther?”
Deaths went up during Covid. True. Would there have been less deaths without the CDC one size fits all policy? Like using ivermectin and HCQ at the onset as being recommended by the viciously attacked doctors, who were actually right?
How many deaths happened because of that? Because of the “go home and go to the hospital if it gets worse?” How much money was wasted, besides the shutdown/lockdown/use of the “vaccine” or Plaxlovid when off patent HCQ and IVM was available?
Try arguing facts rather than calling names. The govt response and the response of all the big govt lovers was abominable. What was your feeling on the censorship? You approve?-
The HCQ truther was a complete nutcase. And since one refuses to view all of the studies that showed that HCQ and Ivermectin did nothing, then there is nothing to discuss.
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The studies done during Covid were designed to fail. I could tell that, without medical training. Since then, real science has occurred. When dosed as recommended by the doctors involved, at the outset of the sickness, there were significantly positive outcomes. You might want to try not just reading the AP headlines of the manufactured studies and actually read the studies and the limitations. One of the designed to fail studies had echoes of Tuskegee all over again. Mostly black veteran guinea pigs on ventilators already being given HCQ. That was the big study saying HCQ didn’t work! It was designed to fail! With expendable balck veterans from the tolerant, anti-racist crowd. Horrible people gotta horrible.
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“If you like your plan, you can keep your plan…”
Nothing changed. Whether you had any plan was up to the insurer, not you.
“I like being able to fire people who provide services to me,” Romney said at a Monday breakfast in New Hampshire, when talking about health care. “You know, if someone doesn’t give me a good service that I need, I want to say, ‘I’m going to go get someone else to provide that service to me.’”
If not for the ACA, the result wouldn’t have been the Canadian choice. It wouldn’t have been a choice.
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You have obviously not studied the aftermath. The reorganization of medicine top to bottom. Elimination of mini-med plans. Shifting the costs to kids. Increased bureaucratization. You are old enough to consume a lot of medical care. Has it improved? No, it hasn’t. Even while new and better is happening all the time. Govt involvement is the problem. But you keep being fixated on trying to blame everything on Pubbies cuz it makes you feel better. BTW, if Romney is your idea of a Pubbie, well…
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I think it has. For one thing, just one, when was the last time you saw a TV commercial that promised healthcare coverage for $1/day? Fly-by-Night insurers, rampant in Red States, were driven out.
That made everything else worth it.
Speaking of which, who regulates insurers? Not the feds.
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Who regulates medicine? Worst of both worlds.
Please name the fly by night insurers driven out of red states. Generally, the fly by night insurance programs deal with the confluence of workers comp and dangerous professions. Mini meds were that thing called “choice” – like a guy doesn’t need pregnancy benefit…or abortion coverage… Unless he is in a blue state and all plans come with it.
The market for medical services is totally distorted and opaque.
If we had the Feds in charge of groceries, we’d all starve. That seems the SlowJoe Mayor Pete WEF plan… Love them bugs! -
No Walt, part of the ACA was a cap on profits for insurers, and “no dropping of insured, denials, and life time caps”. The fly-by-nights disappeared.
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And what has happened to the price of medical care? Let’s see…”cap” profit at 15% and increase prices by 300%… And leaves a lot of room in there for executive pay to keep “profit” under 15%.
How is Anthem stock doing? United Health?
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And you cite Karen Brown “journalist” from an NPR article from 2009… Nice try. Reality is still real. Obamacare did not “bend the cost curve” unless he meant “up” -
No one! No one said, nor expected, the price of service to decline. What was expected, and got, was a decline in the rate of increase.
But thanks. You’ve just hit on the crux of the biscuit— there is no honest broker in the system. It’s the provider and the insurance company divvying up your money. Someone should complain to the SCC.
Nice chart. Compare it to the S&P.
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Yeah – Anthem and United have a 6 fold increase. S&P a 3 fold increase.
And your assertion of a decline in the rate of increase has no evidence to back it up. But, even if true, it doesn’t address the delivery quality is down. Obamacare is a failure. The system is screwed up. Obamacare made it worse. It’s OK to admit it. It’s how it might get better. -
Try the Kaiser Family Foundation.
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If the govt did not regulate, private insurers would drop anyone who was sick or had pre-existing conditions , etc.
3rd world medical care.
Exactly. What entitles one to health insurance anymore or less than other kinds of insurance?
If health insurance companies could decide, how much you pay might be
even higher , if you could get it at all.
Govt is what gets many/most people their health insurance in the US and other developed countries.
Switzerland has nearly the same approach as the ACA but at half the cost. We know it works. We just like paying more.
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Switzerland spends 11.8% of GDP on healthcare. The U.S. spends 17.3 percent but that includes IVF, a much higher percentage of cosmetic and elective procedures, and cutting edge research.
The only way to get the U.S. to go from 17% gdp to 12% GDP would be to lower the pay of every healthcare worker that is paid by insurance reimbursement.
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Well? If you have the solution,…
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There is no good solution. To lower the percentage of the GDP, a large number of healthcare workers will need to laid off, many hospitals would need to be close, many procedures and treatments that have a low chance of benefit would need to be ended, and the pay of all healthcare workers would need to be cut. Anyone claiming that spending on healthcare can go down without pay cuts and layoffs is lying.
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Even the Democrats in enacting the ACA never claimed that it would reduce healthcare costs, just slow the rate of increase. Although there was one young lady, who claimed that overall cost could have a one-time 10% reduction with enacting a unified billing and records system.
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if the difference that the US pays healthcare workers more than Canada, Europe, etc?
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Kinda doubtful. Maybe it’s just volume.
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How do other countries do it?
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The pay less, limit the number of limited value procedures, do not do things like IVF, surrogacy, lasik surgery, etc, and have fewer machines like PET/CT, MRI, proton accelerators. Those countries also do not have a population that is 12% African-American and 18% Hispanic.
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That’s part of it. The other part is that the US does not have universal health records which means each provider does not really know what the other providers are doing – in real time. That leads to issues both cost and quality, as well as errors and mistakes.
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Universal health records only work with a universal government ID. If not, then a universal health record is a pathway for nationwide repeated identity theft.
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Medicare? VA? If you’re getting treated by two providers, how do they communicate/coordinate?
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Medicare is a massive pathway for fraud and identity theft. One also gets a Medicare card and has a number but Medicare patients do not have a consolidated medical record. VA is different in that it does have a consolidated record but if a VA patent sees someone outside the VA (remember, the VA only treats service related issues) then those records do not cross.
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A bunch of stories have popped up on protecting doggies and kitties eyeballs during the eclipse.
Here’s a clue. Nothing. They ain’t gonna look at it if’n you don’t force them to. Animals ain’t that curious!
The researchers estimated that 45,619 Canadians received non-emergency medical treatment abroad in 2015, down from 52,513 in 2014
Medical tourism in Mexico is rising among Americans Before the pandemic halted travel, some 1.2 million American citizens visited Mexico for health care.
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Like the two women kidnapped by drug gangs.
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Were they Canadians come to the US for healthcare? ‘Cause if you have 2 dead Americans in Mexico, I’ll bet I can find 2 dead Canadians in, oh say, New York.
Still, normalize by population and there are still 3x as many Americans seeking healthcare in Mexico than Canadians in the US.
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no one gets any/all healthcare they want unless they can and are willing to pay for it themselves and not expect the insurance to.
No insurance, whether private or govt will pay for any/all procedures no matter what or the cost.
People who come to the US – have the money to buy higher level medical care that they cannot buy in Canada.
But here’s a question. What kind of medical care to American expats get in Mexico.?
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Not mine… but cute. “The Trump eclipse, of course, sports a dumbra, a pendumbra, and a covfeferona.”
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