If Money Were Votes

The Virginia Public Access Project has published an interactive map, broken down by precinct that shows the dollar volumes and number of contributors to the gubernatorial campaigns of Terry McAuliffe and Glenn Youngkin. If the number of contributors were votes, Youngkin would win the race handily 12,098 to 9,346.

But McAuliffe remains the big favorite among out-of-state donors. Roughly 30% of his $57 million campaign haul has come from outside the state, compared to 9% for Youngkin.

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21 responses to “If Money Were Votes”

  1. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    We need a special name for interesting visuals that actually convey nothing of any value. Not all zip codes have the same number of people or wealthy potential donors….And not sure how they treat all those Beltway Entities which are national in scope but have Virginia addresses.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Trivia, or trivial works.

      But then, when was the last time an election wasn’t bought? Or, for that matter, the first time?

      1. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        You’re baaaack. How was the Sunshine State? Came back for the McA victory party?

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Diseased. But then, like Denmark and fish, eh?
          Dunno, but I’m sure gonna enjoy the demands for a ninja audit from RPV. BTW, RPV… I think Rancho Palos Verde has dibs on that.

  2. YellowstoneBound1948 Avatar
    YellowstoneBound1948

    The only map that ever made an impression on me was the one printed the day after George Allen, Jr., defeated Mary Sue Terry. Every county and every city was red. Allen won them all.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Not seeing that again in our lifetimes. 🙂 But watch a couple of key ones: Henrico, Chesterfield and Loudoun come to mind. I see many parallels with 1993, mainly the complete overconfidence and arrogance displayed by the D’s until the shock of the recent polls. The fact that he’s using signs saying just “Terry” only adds to the impression. The negative mojo of that has struck me all along.

  3. LarrytheG Avatar

    this why one needs to see different views or at least be able to compare and contrast and really understand what is NOT being shown!

    Further – this is the REPORTABLE money and a good amount of it is not including the C4 SUPER PAC money.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Yes, adding in (or tracking separately) the “independent” spending would be interesting. VPAP may yet do that.

  4. LarrytheG Avatar

    Ads can be run by C4 super Pacs and not reported via VPAP ahead of the election. So we’re looking at a selective snapshot that probably is not all representative of the complete money picture.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Again, my first comment was this illustration actually tells us nothing of value. Glad you agree.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        We agree.. VPAP tries hard and does a good job with the data they do get but it’s almost misleading sometimes… if folks don’t realize it’s not the complete picture.

        I remain concerned about the C4 SUPER PACS influence and anonymity and late reporting of money.

        1. Stephen Haner Avatar
          Stephen Haner

          Neither party seems willing to tackle it.

  5. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    Proof positive that the Youngkin campaign has so much money they are coming up with dumb ways to spend it. A friend snapped this in Hampton Roads this morning:

    https://www.baconsrebellion.com/app/uploads/2021/11/Youngkin-Banner.jpg

    And while we’re sharing images: This is the one that so many Virginians are seeing and it will have a major impact tomorrow. As always, it is the economy, stupid.

    https://www.baconsrebellion.com/app/uploads/2021/11/Shelves-scaled.jpg

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      We’re overfed anyway. Argue with that!

  6. tmtfairfax Avatar
    tmtfairfax

    Let’s have real campaign finance reform. No contributions except from individual, living human beings. Ergo, no PACs, bundled, corporate, nonprofit, nonprofit affiliate, or labor union contributions. No out-of-state contributions. No contributions from residents outside the district in which the candidate is running for office. Only statewide races can have statewide contributions.

    Any “non-affiliated” entity that campaigns/advertises for a candidate or issue must report any communications with a candidate, campaign or political party.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      I don’t know how you keep money from being sent from out-of district, or state from one individual to another then the second individual does the actual donation.

      sounds good in theory – hard to do in practice.

      1. tmtfairfax Avatar
        tmtfairfax

        Real easy. Make a criminal offense for the candidate or campaign committee to accept an out-of-district contribution. Make it a crime for an in-district person to accept money to make an unauthorized contribution. There is enough hatred among the two Parties that people will snitch on each other.

        I would allow a short period to investigate the source of a contribution and to allow a candidate/committee to put a questionable contribution in escrow to avoid prosecution.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          right. You can make that law. How would you prove it?

          You’d have to make them “report” it and how would you ever know if all of it was reported and if so, it really came from illegal sources?

          VPAP lists donors – where do they get that info from? How do they know all sources were reported much less in a guy IN-district actually got his money from someone out of state? How would you prove that?

          1. tmtfairfax Avatar
            tmtfairfax

            The U.S. already prohibits foreign donations. We know how to trace money to its source. And dollars to donuts, both Parties will turn in the other’s bad donations.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            If someone overseas sends money to someone in the US and that person then donates.. how do they know that?

            Isn’t it fairly easy to “launder” the money by having it pass through one or more entities before actually donated?

          3. LarrytheG Avatar

            If someone overseas sends money to someone in the US and that person then donates.. how do they know that?

            Isn’t it fairly easy to “launder” the money by having it pass through one or more entities before actually donated?

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