Jason Miyares, Attorney General of Virginia

by Dick Hall-Sizemore

Although the issue of school mask mandates is now behind us, it is instructive to examine the legal arguments advanced by Attorney General Jason Miyares in a court case seeking to overturn the mask mandates instituted by the Loudoun County School Board (“school board”).  Not only does Miyares advocate judicial activism and misread statutory law, the breadth of the power he asserts for the governor is breathtaking.

At issue was whether the school board could continue to mandate the wearing of face masks by students despite the provisions of Governor Youngkin’s Executive Order No. Two (EO-2) that students are to have the option of wearing masks in school.

The state circuit courts have divided on this issue. The state Supreme Court dismissed, on technical grounds, a suit by Chesapeake parents challenging EO-2. A group of seven school boards filed suit in Arlington Circuit Court challenging the legality of EO-2. The court there issued a temporary injunction barring the enforcement of the mask-option policy set out in EO-2. The result was just the opposite in Loudoun. The court there issued a temporary injunction barring the mask mandate. Because there are no standards to guide Virginia courts in the issuance of temporary injunctions, it may be difficult to infer from that action how a court would ultimately rule. The order issued by the Loudoun County judge did not provide any specific grounds for granting the request for a temporary injunction other than “the reasons stated in the briefs, pleadings, and on the record at the…hearing.” The Washington Post reported that the judge said that the plaintiffs, consisting of parents and the Commonwealth, were likely to prevail in a trial. He was quoted as saying, “The executive order is a valid exercise of the governor of Virginia.”

Because no court has issued a ruling on the substance of the cases challenging the validity of EO-2, it cannot be said that the positions advanced by the Attorney General in the briefs filed in the defense of that order are the official, legal policy of the Commonwealth. Nevertheless, it is important to examine the briefs for insights into the philosophy of gubernatorial power put forth by the Attorney General and, by extension, the Governor.

First, the brief (the text of which can be found here) devotes a lot of pages arguing that the mask mandate is “ineffective and impractical.” It cites numerous studies to buttress its argument. Furthermore, it argues that masks are not necessary in schools because “COVID-19 infection and spread in schools is low,” and “the rate of hospitalization among school-age children is similarly low.” Regardless of the merits of those arguments, that is a policy decision for legislatures, not courts, to make. In the past, conservatives such as Miyares claims to be railed about “judicial activism” and complained that “courts should be interpreting, not making, law.”

The school board cited Chapter 456 of the 2021 Acts of Assembly (S.B. 1303) as its primary defense. That law requires school boards to offer in-person instruction to each child enrolled in its schools. It also required each school to:

provide such in-person instruction in a manner in which it adheres to the maximum extent practicable to any currently applicable mitigation strategies for early child care and education programs and elementary and secondary schools to reduce the transmission of COVID-19 that have been provided by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. [emphasis added]

EO-2 acknowledges that “the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) recommends masks,” as does the affidavit filed in the Loudoun circuit court by the Acting Commissioner of Health. However, Miyares’ brief contends, despite the Virginia statute requiring school boards to adhere to any “currently applicable mitigation strategies … that have been provided by” CDC, that the law “does not impose a universal mask mandate.” Miyares is asking the court to ignore the plain language of the statute.

Finally, and most importantly, there is the order itself. There are several ways of interpreting it, but the end results are either nonsense or very concerning as to the insight they provide into the vision that Miyares has of gubernatorial power and authority. Here is the beginning of the directive in EO-2:

Therefore, by virtue of the authority vested in me as Governor by Article V of the Constitution of Virginia, by § 44-146.17 of the Code of Virginia, by any other applicable law, and by virtue of the authority vested in the State Health Commissioner pursuant to §§ 32.1-13, 32.1-20, and 35.1-10 of the Code of Virginia, Executive Order Number Seventy-Nine (2021) is rescinded and the following is ordered:

1. The State Health Commissioner shall terminate Order of Public Health Emergency Order Ten (2021).
2. The parents of any child enrolled in a elementary or secondary school or a school based early childcare and educational program may elect for their children not to be subject to any mask mandate in effect at the child’s school or educational program….

A simple interpretation would be that the governor has rescinded the latest executive order and Order of Public Health Emergency regarding the emergency created by COVID-19 and ordered that school boards not require students to wear masks in school.

The governor certainly has the authority to rescind previous executive orders and public health emergency orders. But, by what authority does the governor get to issue an edict that schools cannot require students to wear masks, especially when state law gives school boards supervisory authority over schools and the 2021 legislation requires that masks be used by students? This is an edict that Miyares tells the court the school board has “disobeyed.” In this vein, can the governor issue edicts that all school children must wear uniforms, or that school boards cannot prevent a student from receiving a diploma even if he failed most of his classes, or that students cannot be required to do their homework assignments?

Recognizing that the Governor needed some sort of legislative authority to issue such an order, the authors of EO-2 cloaked him, paradoxically, in the protection of that law that conservatives now seem to hate: the Virginia Emergency Services and Disaster Law (VESDL), specifically Sec. 44-146.17 of the Code of Virginia. Accordingly, his order that schools not require students to wear masks was issued “by virtue vested in me as Governor…by Sec. 44-146.17 of the Code of Virginia.”

The VESDL defines “emergency” as “any occurrence, or threat thereof, whether natural or man-made, which results or may result in substantial injury or harm to the population or substantial damage to or loss of property or natural resources.” Section 44-146.17, cited in EO-2, authorizes the Governor to declare a state of emergency and to issue orders that “in his judgment, [are] necessary to accomplish the purposes of this chapter.” In Sec. 44-146.14, the General Assembly declared “generally to provide for the common defense and to protect the public peace, health, safety, and to preserve the lives and property and economic well-being of the Commonwealth, it is hereby found and declared to be necessary and to be the purpose of this chapter.”

With that established, one needs to ask, “What is the emergency that is the subject of EO-2?” Miyares’ brief states, “COVID-19 still poses a very real threat to public safety and continues to be an emergency under the VESDL” (p. 16, para. 63). If COVID-19 were really the emergency for which EO-2 was issued, it does not make any sense that the steps ordered by the Governor involved diminishing the use of a measure designed to reduce the transmission of the disease.

Actually, the purpose of EO-2, and the ostensible “emergency,” is stated explicitly in its title and first section: “reaffirming the rights of parents in the upbringing, education, and care of their children.” In the petition to the court to allow the Commonwealth to intervene in the case, Miyares declared, “The Governor has declared EO-2 is a necessary measure to protect public health, safety, and welfare during the COVID-19 emergency, in particular the health and safety of children.” In the next paragraph, he also asserts “The Governor has a duty to protect the rights of parents to guide the care and education of their children.” It is this latter objective that is emphasized throughout the briefs and in the executive order.

In EO-2, the Governor states, at the beginning, “Under Virginia law, parents, not the government, have the fundamental right to make decisions concerning the care of their children.” In his brief, Miyares declares that it was in light of this “fundamental right” that “Governor Youngkin invoked his VESDL power to rescind the previous order requiring all students to wear masks” and further ordered schools not to impose such mandates (p. 18, para. 67).

In summary, the “emergency” that caused the Governor to issue EO-2 was that, because their children were required to wear masks to school, the fundamental rights of some parents had been infringed upon and the Governor had a “duty” to protect those rights. Unaddressed are the fundamental rights of those parents who might feel that schools and the Governor have a duty to protect their children, to the extent possible, from the transmission of a deadly disease in schools.

Completely ignored in Miyares’ brief is the statutory definition of the type of emergency under which the Governor is authorized to exercise his extraordinary powers. It strains the borders of credibility to contend that schools requiring their children to wear masks with the intent to decrease the chances that they would transmit or catch a deadly disease infringes upon the rights of parents to the extent it “results or may result in substantial injury or harm … or substantial damage to or loss of property or natural resources.” It seems that, according to Miyares’ argument, an “emergency” is what the Governor says it is.

Before moving to discussing the implications of enabling a governor to use the VEDSL to manufacture an “emergency” for the purpose of unilaterally putting in place a campaign promise, it is worth exploring the concept of a parent’s right to make decisions regarding the care and education of their children.

First of all, the Governor expanded upon the law in his statement of it in EO-2.  According to that document, “Under Virginia law, parents, not the government, have the fundamental right to make decisions concerning the care of their children.” However the text of the actual law is:

A parent has a fundamental right to make decisions concerning the upbringing, education, and care of the parent’s child.

There is no language in the statute excluding the role of the government.  Furthermore, the statute says that a parent has “a” fundamental right, not “the fundamental right” asserted in the Governor’s rendition of the law. There is a difference. Using “the” lends a sense of exclusivity, ruling out the existence of any other entity having a right to make decisions about the case of a child.

Assuming that the statement of the law in EO-2 correctly reflects the administration and Miyares’ interpretation of the statute, consider the implications in the following scenarios:

  • A parent refuses to have his child vaccinated against measles, as required by law, not due to religious convictions, but because the parent distrusts vaccinations.
  • A parent refuses to send her child to school after age 14 on the grounds that schools are not that valuable after that age and the child can gain much more knowledge and valuable skills while working in the parent’s automobile repair shop, plumbing business, roofing company, etc.
  • A parent disciplines his child with corporal punishment to the extent that the child frequently needs medical attention.
  • A parent regularly leaves a six-year-old child at home alone as a way of teaching that child to be independent.
A.L. Philpott

This Code section is an example of the type of policy or philosophical statement that often appears at the beginning of a chapter in the Code. The late Delegate A.L. Philpott strongly objected to such statements and would order their removal from any legislation that came up in any committee upon which he sat.  Long before he became Speaker, Philpott was regarded as the foremost authority on the Code of Virginia in the General Assembly, as well as in the Commonwealth. For Philpott, a statute or law should do one of three things: authorize something to be done, require something to be done, or prohibit something from being done. Philosophical or policy statements cannot be enforced and are subject to wide interpretation and, thus, have no place in a code of laws.

Jason Miyares never had the opportunity to serve in the House of Delegates with A.L. Philpott and experience his famous and feared scowl as he reviewed a bill.  (It was said that Philpott’s scowl alone was enough to kill a bill.) Therefore, the foundation of his brief in the school mask mandate case is the wrongly stated statutory right of a parent, not the government, to make decisions about his child’s education.

Next, it is necessary to examine the implications of Miyares’ contention that the governor has the authority to declare an emergency when someone’s rights are being threatened. Under this interpretation, the “emergency” no longer is restricted to its commonly understood, and statutory, meaning. There no longer has to be a credible threat of people being physically injured or killed or of widespread property damage, such as in the case of a hurricane, tornado, flood, ice storm, or pandemic. An ”emergency” becomes something happening that a lot of people are upset about and feel their rights and interests are not being protected and the Governor “concludes that existing legal procedures fail to protect those rights and interests.”

Under the Miyares approach, the following scenarios would be plausible:

  • The Governor declares the falling reading scores of minority students in some localities constitute an emergency and orders the school boards in those localities to approve the establishment of charter schools in their jurisdictions.
  • The Governor declares the increase in the crime rate to be an emergency and orders that no prisoners currently incarcerated be released on parole, even if eligible for consideration for parole under the law.

Do conservatives really want a governor to have this sort of power? They may approve of the results set out above, but they need to keep in mind that such power could be wielded in ways in which they may not approve.

Here is an example of another possible use of the “Miyares doctrine.” The state constitution has the following declaration:

…it shall be the policy of the Commonwealth to conserve, develop, and utilize its natural resources, its public lands, and its historical sites and buildings. Further, it shall be the Commonwealth’s policy to protect its atmosphere, lands, and waters from pollution, impairment, or destruction, for the benefit, enjoyment, and general welfare of the people of the Commonwealth. (Article XI, Section 2)

Scenario: Under the provisions of the VESDL, the governor declares that climate change constitutes an emergency that threatens the Commonwealth and that, as Governor, he has a duty under the provisions of Article XI of the state constitution to protect the Commonwealth’s atmosphere from “impairment” for the “benefit of the people of the Commonwealth.” Accordingly, he orders a moratorium on all new residential, commercial, and industrial natural gas hookups. Also, he orders the suspension of all land-use regulations with regard to the siting and installation of solar panels.

The moral: Be careful of what you ask for. Once power is granted to a governor, it will be used by whatever governor is in office and maybe not for ends that you favor.


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113 responses to “Governing by Edict”

  1. walter smith Avatar
    walter smith

    The Governor emergency powers should be, if at all, no more than 7 days. If there is an emergency, the legislature should be able to act within that time period in this modern world.
    Of course, if everyone would have dropped the mask theater, none of this would have been necessary…
    One day, maybe the Maskholes will admit that they don’t work. They really don’t work as worn, touched, pulled out of pocket, and they greatly harmed kids, but virtue signaling is more important!

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      The GA has passed legislation limiting the duration of an executive order to 45 days unless the GA takes some action on that order or rule during that time period.

      The basic theme of the article is a critique of the AG’s attitude or approach to gubernatorial power.

      1. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        Hypocrisy by politicians? I’m shocked!
        I think it should be even less than the 45 days. That is way too long and I don’t trust any politician of any party not to abuse the power. We’ve already seen it.
        My other point was the stupidity of masking – we wouldn’t have even gotten there in a sane world, but drunk people drunk on new found authoritarian powers gotta keep drinking that Powerade!

        1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          Not hypocrisy, legally incorrect. Big difference.

          1. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            OK, Full Troll. Then say what was illegal, and agree it is illegal for all. I have no problem with that. Two years of illegality, no wait,…5 years of illegality, RUSSIA!, the Summer of Love, etc. If breaking the law is bad and if laws should be equally enforced, I agree. Now go give the J6 prisoners the due process – not even asking for the prosecutorial discretion get out of jail for felonies treatment. Just due process.
            But while we are at it, and this should appeal to you Lefty types, something needs to be done about over-charging… We’ll prosecute you for 150 years of potential incarceration, unless you agree to 3 years, take it or leave it. Very much abused.

          2. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
            Dick Hall-Sizemore

            None of this is relevant to the article at hand, although I agree with you on the issue of overcharging. But that is a subject for another time.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            I thought the “over-charging’ basically came from Law & Order types, usually conservatives – not lefties who often argue criminal justice wrongs…committed.

          4. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            So now I know I’m right when Larry shows up to counter. No, Larry, all prosecutors tend to over-charge, and it is horribly unfair. However, Lefties like to overcharge on political things to boot – criminalizing dissent. Even worse.

          5. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            What if?
            Maybe they’d be charged higher. We have been over this ground before Larry. I think illegitimacy – “fatherlessness” as you Lefties call it cuz Feelz – is a huge factor. Maybe Blacks are charged more often because Blacks are committing more crimes, and usually in Black neighborhoods with Black victims! Defund the police seems like white liberals hate minorities, but I guess that’s just what I observe…

          6. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Study finds. Same crime, same degrees of severity? Any aggravating factors? And your 2017 WashComPost article is behind a paywall, but I’ll bet it is from a Lefty race-baiting group and that I could take apart the weaknesses in the “study” in minutes. You and Troll like to find headlines and post them as “proof” when they are not. They are slanted pieces written to influence the intellectually lazy, and they obviously succeed. Meanwhile, I’d like to see a study on the gun to the head plea bargains coerced against all defendants. Might even find reverse racism there. Who knows? The practice is very much abused. Why you need ethical prosecutors.

          7. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            If you were seriously interested, there are quite a few articles that establish the same facts but clearly you want to keep your own view and not be influenced by the actual facts and your given reasons earlier indicate that you believe instead that blacks actually commit more crimes. Right?

          8. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Larry – blacks do currently commit crimes at a higher rate. And the victims are mostly black. So blacks also commit crimes against whites at a higher rate than whites against blacks. These are real numbers. Absolute numbers? Given that blacks are something like 13% of the population, to argue over “more crimes” instead of crime rate is a Dem disingenuous lie, just like your obfuscation over oil prices. If you actually cared about the lives of black people, instead of just harvesting votes to make you feel good, you would address schools and illegitimacy, but then some might escape your hellhole vote farms…

          9. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            is that what the data show ? I provided you with two articles. There are many more that do show that blacks have been prosecuted at higher rates for the same crimes, have been charged more for the same crimes and have been incarcerated more for the same crimes.

            Your view is that blacks actually do commit more crimes than whites? Can you provide some data?

          10. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            what do oil prices have to do with this?

            can you stick with one topic at a time?

            You’re a lawyer, right?

          11. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            I’m a recovering lawyer. It’s just that you are wrong on so many points, it’s hard to stay on topic. So much fallacy, so little time!

          12. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            one topic at a time, okay?

          13. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            I started on one topic, way back when. I think the 45 days is too much and I think all politicians can be hypocrites, because Mark Herring certainly acted politically and masks became political, which is why we had this controversy. Herring’s vaccine opinion was plainly wrong and all the Virginia schools relied on it, including mine, UVA, whose President clerked at the Supreme Court and whose rector is a partner at a top 100 law firm. I don’t like lawlessness, wherever and whenever practiced. If you Libs would obey the law, I’d have fewer bones to pick!

          14. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            He is a propagandist, Larry. He will take any opportunity to air his false claims in any context. The goal is repetition, nothing else..

          15. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            well, he’s fairly representative of many of the conservatives who post here, no?

            He does not believe the govt or science o most media… just believes what he wants to believe.

          16. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Are you certain about the rate of crimes committed by Blacks? Arrest rates and prosecution rates affect the commission rate.

          17. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            I don’t use Google – I use DuckDuckGo and “ducked” DDGed? – heather mcdonald on crime rates
            Many many articles came up with one negative article that essentially boiled down to all people are biased so police must be biased. Blacks are very much victimized by crime and most of it is “intra-racial.” But she has written extensively about crime for years. One of the articles was in National Review and was showing these sorts of problems in crime rates as far back as 2010. This is why Dems are belatedly pivoting from defund the police – it hurts blacks even more!

          18. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Your insurrectionist heroes are getting their due process. More rightwing propaganda.

          19. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Seriously, how awful of a human being are you? You probably cried over Muslim terrorists in Guantanamo, but American citizens who disagree with you politically and didn’t burn anything down, didn’t kill anybody, can rot in jails and be sentenced for years with “public defenders” not even defending them for trespassing and “obstruction of an official proceeding.” The entire Dem party with the fake RUSSIA! obstructed official proceedings with taxpayer money and propaganda for years. Hypocrisy much? But wear your mask and show people how virtuous you are.

          20. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Some 140 law enforcement officers were physically harmed (not just assaulted). Several of them ended up losing their lives. Over $150 million of damage was done to the US Capital and the goal was to stop the process of peaceful transition of power by force at best (even possibly kidnapping and holding US Representatives in the process). They brought weapons, zip ties, riot gear and they successfully invaded the Capitol building while Congress was in session – forcing our duly elected representatives to flee.

            You believe any LEO is justified to shoot to kill anyone who he even perceives to be a threat. If anyone (especially a black person) would simply touch a LEO at any other time, they would be in jail facing felony charges. Why should these people be treated differently?

            This is not just another political protest… we just don’t have different political opinions. These people wish to overthrow our government and they were encouraged and in some cases lead and joined by Republican law makers. You have a very strange concept of disagreeing politically that much is clear.

            Now spew more of your anti-American propaganda… it is what you do.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8e08d5793db29b025f78dfe0126d6612e1238df196b0a562d28acd4285c810d8.jpg

    2. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      We all appreciate how difficult it is for libertarians to accept some responsibility for the welfare and health of the community. If the day arrives that Maskholes acknowledge the masks don’t work, you will have scored a point.

      1. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        The day arrived 2 years ago. And I don’t care if you ever decide to acknowledge the truth. That’s on you.

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          I do so hate missing the truth. Sorry that you don’t care—not.

    3. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Practically speaking, how do you envision 140 folks being notified of an emergency? Would you be OK with voting from a distance on an emergency measure? Debating such measure might delay protection of life and limb and property. If the Governor is not granted emergency power, “if at all,” should such be in the hands of the Lt. Gov., or AG? Speaker of the House? Let’s hear a proposal.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        Can the GA call themselves into session or does the Gov have to do that?

      2. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        How many emergencies have there been in your life that required immediate, unilateral government action?
        How would we notify? I’d send out 140 Jack Jouetts…or an email or a phone call or a text or maybe they would see the news…
        Debate? Well, if a real emergency, they could take their heads out of their rears and act. Frankly, I don’t need a bunch of political hacks to tell me what to do. The emergency things are pretty preposterous. People used to be able to make decisions without the help of our benevolent overlords. And maybe different people in different areas with different circumstances should reply differently…

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          I lived in NYC on 9/11. Lived through bomb drills under the desk at school. Received mandatory polio vaccine. Continue to wear a mask today. I am unaware of benevolent overlords acting in my behalf. Whoever took their heads from their behinds are to be thanked. Which emergencies are preposterous? Happy you feel confident to. conquer all emergencies you face.

        2. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          I lived in NYC on 9/11. Lived through bomb drills under the desk at school. Received mandatory polio vaccine. Continue to wear a mask today. I am unaware of benevolent overlords acting in my behalf. Whoever took their heads from their behinds are to be thanked. Which emergencies are preposterous? Happy you feel confident to. conquer all emergencies you face.

  2. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    Nice argument. Yes, methinks if this argument was put forth in support of a Dem gov EO… it might not sound so good to Conservatives.

    So, we sorta know, that the AG is way out over his skis….

  3. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    Nicely observed. Others have seen this inclination also.
    https://www.virginiamercury.com/2022/03/02/from-the-era-to-abortion-five-cases-in-which-va-s-new-ag-changed-the-states-legal-position/?eType=

    More egregiously, the AG, in some of his statements withdrawing VA from lawsuits, states on the basis of his narrow victory at the polls that “VA is no longer of the view” in these matters. If the AG merely bit the bullet and stated something like “the AG has now determined that participation is not in the best interest of the Commonwealth” one might be able to live with that.

    Using the “elections have consequences” rationale is simply imprudent.

    1. Matt Adams Avatar
      Matt Adams

      “Using the “elections have consequences” rationale is simply imprudent.”

      Did you feel the same way when AG Herring did exactly the same thing?

      1. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        Herring defended the illegal racially biased district maps for four years after he became AG. He did not abandon the legislature’s decision until after federal courts found the maps unconstitutional.

        In this instance, Herring held fast to the AG duty to represent the Commonwealth. Miyares has already tanked several state positions in favor of exerting his political voice for that of the voters.

        1. Matt Adams Avatar
          Matt Adams

          So that’s a yes, you were okay with AG Herring operating in a political capacity because you aligned and voted for him. You also, conveniently ignored my actual question.

          1. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Not stated in my response. Clearly, Herring adhered to his duty despite his political instincts to oppose the maps. You have ignored the point.

          2. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            “James McCarthy 43 minutes ago
            Not stated in my response. Clearly, Herring adhered to his duty despite his political instincts to oppose the maps. You have ignored the point.”

            No, your response was a deflection. The Defense of Marriage Act (no matter if it was correct or not) obviously nullifies your statement he didn’t operate in a political capacity doesn’t it (I won’t hold my breath that you’ll admit your error).

            https://www.styleweekly.com/richmond/the-meddler-inside-the-mind-of-virginia-attorney-general-mark-herring/Content?oid=2323151

            So again, I’ll ask were you okay with AG Herring operating a political capacity because he was a member of a club you have appeared to swear fealty to.

    2. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      I don’t object to Miyares withdrawing Virginia’s participation in specific cases. That usually happens with a change of parties, both at the state level and the national level.

      1. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        I might agree about withdrawal in specific cases. That such occur with a change of political party control is not necessarily justification for withdrawal. In his withdrawal from the ERA lawsuit, the AG scuttled the action of the General Assembly not the opinion of the prior AG. That, IMO, is a substantial difference.

    3. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      I don’t object to Miyares withdrawing Virginia’s participation in specific cases. That usually happens with a change of parties, both at the state level and the national level.

  4. Baconator with extra cheese Avatar
    Baconator with extra cheese

    I voted for Miyares and I am disappointed thus far.

  5. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    Enjoyed the nod to Philpott. Once the Lion of the Southside.

  6. Virginia Project Avatar
    Virginia Project

    But, by what authority does the governor get to issue an edict that schools cannot require students to wear masks, especially when state law gives school boards supervisory authority over schools and the 2021 legislation requires that masks be used by students?

    It’s called the Dillon Rule. If the state doesn’t say the locals can do it, the locals can’t do it, and any ambiguity resolves against local government claim of power. All local government must be founded in the statutory authority of the Commonwealth itself, and if it’s not there they don’t have it and it’s not in question.

    And on any such question, who decides the state’s position? It’s the Governor’s role, or the AG’s role. Courts get final say but the first call is the Executive’s.

    also the 2021 law doesn’t require masks, it gave the locals authority – where practicable – of implementing mitigation measures as recommended by the CDC, and those recommendations changed and now say no masks so the maskers are acting totally outside of their lawful authority now

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      It has nothing to do with the Dillon Rule. Virginia law provided school boards with the responsibility of operating schools in accordance with other laws. A separate statute required schools to have in -person instruction and to use COVID mitigating measures recommended by the CDC. At the time of both the executive order and the brief, the CDC was recommending that masks be worn in schools, a fact acknowledged in both the executive order and brief. Therefore, the brief says the governor can conjure up an emergency that will enable him to use his emergency power to override state law.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        Exactly.

        CONCEPTUALLY, one might argue that most States including Virginia decide how much power and authority will be delegated to localities and school boards but as Dick pointed out, laws were passed that did just that and NOW the AG is essentially arguing that because of an “emergency”, the Gov can suspend those laws entirely based purely on his own reasoning even without GA approval?

        Dillon Rule is way more than just a Governor EO.

    2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      “It’s called the Dillon Rule. If the state doesn’t say the locals can do it, the locals can’t do it, and any ambiguity resolves against local government claim of power.”

      The power HAS been delegated in law to the local school boards.

      “And on any such question, who decides the state’s position? And on any such question, who decides the state’s position? It’s the Governor’s role, or the AG’s role. Courts get final say but the first call is the Executive’s.”

      In this case, there is no question. The legislature delegated the power to the local school boards (solely) and the Governor has no say in the matter. The only time the Governor has the power to override the local school board exercising their delegated powers is in response to an emergency. That is not the case here as Dick so thoroughly outlined above. You are correct that the courts (most likely the Supreme Court of Virginia) have the final say.

  7. James C. Sherlock Avatar
    James C. Sherlock

    Dick, I am not a fan of emergency EO’s by any governor. They should be very rare and very time limited before action by the GA.

    The operative sentence in your essay is “The state circuit courts have divided on this issue.”

    You then proceed to give a brief supporting one side. Which is certainly your right.

    But you do not mention the well documented harm done to children by wearing the masks. That is the balancing test. And that is what motivated the governor and the parents who elected him.

    It is not the job of an attorney writing a brief supporting the plaintiffs to point that out, and you did not.

    Yet you quite clearly accuse the AG of malpractice. “Miyares is asking the court to ignore the plain language of the statute”. On that the courts have not agreed with you.

    If the AG was prima facie wrong on the law, the courts would not have split, but each rather would have granted summary findings for the plaintiffs.

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      At the risk of getting into a debate that is fruitless, I will point out that the harm done to children by wearing masks is not as well documented as you suggest. https://newrepublic.com/article/165306/face-masks-dont-harm-kids-development

      The larger point is that any potential harm from wearing masks could be offset by mitigation of harm from catching or transmitting COVID due to not wearing masks. That is a policy decision best made by legislatures, not courts.

      1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
        James C. Sherlock

        Quoting the New Republic on anything is picking a side without ever having to read the text. “Could be offset” suggests there is something to offset. Legislatures make laws. The executive makes policy in execution of laws. This is a battle about the meaning of laws. The courts are there to decide.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          should the courts be deciding which science they believe and essentially take over the job of the CDC and other science-based entities?

          The court don’t decide the pro/con of issues but rather the validity of the law.

          Do you want, for instance, the courts to decide if Medicare is a valid use of govt funds as opposed to the law that created Medicare and it’s funding?

          1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
            James C. Sherlock

            The courts can decide on anything that legislation does not strip them of that authority.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            The courts TYPICALLY are not experts in these other fields and often make the point that they are not and that their job is to interpret the laws not decide facts they are not qualified to do.

            When they start doing that, then they essentially are legislating and regulating instead of their fundamental mission. Even conservatives NORMALLY make this argument.

            You may have noticed, for instance, on the pipelines and 4th Circuit that they ruled on whether
            the applicants followed the rules – not on whether the pipeline was ‘needed’ or not.

        2. walter smith Avatar
          walter smith

          It is so frustrating to argue with Libs, although DHS is the most honest. The TNR article was made for deflection of what is clearly a problem. She uses words like “probably” and “we don’t know” – because they don’t want to look at the data! Here is the Reuters “fact check” which concludes “missing context.”
          https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-masks-child-speech-development-idUSL1N2U62CO
          So, yeah, there is a 364% rise, but how much is masks?
          Let me see….is there one intervening factor…one thing different we could point to? I’m gonna guess…masks?
          This is like ignoring VAERS data. Something is going on. The “vaccine” is not as “safe and effective” as advertised. What is going on? Why is that a crime to ask?
          The lockdowns didn’t work. Social distancing didn’t work. Masking didn’t work. The vaccine’s true effectiveness (versus costs and still unknown long term effects) is not clear. Why were therapeutic approaches not allowed? Why one size fits all?
          Telemedicine was a good improvement. Maybe even a sped up regulatory process, but I think the bigger problem is regulatory capture at our bureaucracies, and just like executive orders, I don’t like being ruled by bureaucrats.
          Another silver lining might be to cause greater skepticism of the “climate change” stupidity. Man cannot control a virus; nor can Man control “the climate.”

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            re: “I don’t like being ruled by bureaucrats.”

            Do you consider traffic signals and unleaded fuel, and thousands and thousands of rules and regulations
            “rule by bureacrats”?

            And what is your point about VAERS data again besides it being created and maintained by bureaucrats…..

          2. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Larry – good logical fallacy approach as usual.
            The bureaucrats at the CDC are political, not scientific. The bureaucrats did as their political allies wished. They resisted Trump and did all they could to hurt him, stirring up unnecessary fear of a virus, delaying the “vaccine,” concentrating on “cases” and a 24/7 fear fest. Traffic signals? Give me a break Larry. I’m left handed and I think everybody should drive on the left side of the road! Just stupid.
            Dr. St. Fau(x)ci is a political hack. He has lied to the American people. He lied to Congress. In January of 2020 the good Dr. St. wrote to his Obama friends that masks don’t work… Then he said no to the public, then yes to the public, then double mask to the public, then he claimed he was science, then he lied to Congress. Why was he even funding gain of function research? Why did VDH blindly follow the CDC? The VAERS data indicates something is going on. We should look at it and try to understand, rather than blindly cling to “Correlation is not causation.” (You know it is also true that correlation may indicate causation, right?)
            The CDC has been captured by big pharma. You think that is good?
            How about this – remove the pharma shield from liability for the experimental Covid vaccines. If it is so “safe and effective,” why do they get a shield? Shouldn’t the CDC and the pharmas put their money where their mouths are?

          3. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            The VAERS folks themselves say that the data collected is not verified and should not be misused by assuming it is. you guys keep doing that then claim you’re not.

            The CDC uses data that comes from research in providing “guidance”. That guidance is NOT political but it does have political implications that have to be dealt with.

            I wear a mask when I visit a medical facility. that’s the CDC guidance in action and if some yahoo says they won’t wear one – they get booted. That’s not political. That’s no different than running a stop sign or a red light. The rules are not political, and the penalty for violating them is not political.

            Now, if some fool wants to try to make it political and argue that the rules are politically motivated and that’s why they can ignore them- then yes, there are yahoos like that around – often and always.

          4. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Keep denying the truth. You hear one excuse and assume, no -proclaim – it applies to the whole thing – willfully blind.
            If I won’t look I won’t have to see the whole truth.
            Here is another one for you to ignore…
            https://brownstone.org/articles/the-militarys-abusive-imposition-of-mandatory-covid-vaccinations/
            You are the problem! No matter how much evidence that masks don’t work and maybe we should re-think the “vaccinate” everybody strategy, you cling to my beloved civil servants and politicians are all good and wonderful and I will believe them no matter what. You and Troll are killing people because you can’t admit you’re wrong. But anybody who disobeys the government deserves to lose his job! Deserves to be denied due process! And religious freedom! See any problems with that, Lar?

          5. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            there is a TON of scientific evidence that masks do work but not 100% and that’s YOUR problem -your all or nothing view of the world.

            I don’t have a “Beloved’ govt or anything else. I deal with facts and realities not disinformation , lies and conspiracy theories.

            Your link is to a looney tune “institute” that is far removed from the real world. No surprise at all.

            And I see more of “you” when your provide such links. Geeze guy, you’re off the deep end here.

          6. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt.
            So Brownstone is wackadoodle? Cuz you say so?
            Where is your “ton” of evidence masks work? The CDCmanipulated a study to do an article that you read the headline of take it as proof.
            https://brownstone.org/articles/the-cdc-source-of-misinformation/
            Dr. Jay Bhattacharya knows less than Larry the G. Dr. Robert Malone is a kook. All the VAERS reports are by evil Republicans trying to destroy the “vaccine.” Gee…that sounds like a conspiracy theory. You don’t deal in facts and reality. You have your team and you cling to finding some manufactured something to justify your near religious faith, and then close your eyes. When OrangeMan was Prez, were you sowing seeds of doubt about a Covid vaccine?

          7. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            There ARE countries in the world that function like Mises and related do advocate. They are called 3rd world where the govt involvement is minimal and the private economy prevails. You can advocate out the wazoo for it in the US but only wackadoodles will follow.

            Sees of doubt about that idiots habit of interfering with agencies core missions and demanding allegiance to him personally or else. Not just on Covid, on pretty much everything.

            you guys are funny. You distrust govt except when it comes like VAERS then you ‘trust’!

            😉

          8. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            And then you doubt!
            No. I actually think for myself. So if someone says something that doesn’t add up, I wonder what’s up.
            You people on the Left made medical political.
            You became addicted to the power and never wanted to give it up. You hung onto masks far after it was clear they aren’t needed (and never were as used). Then you call people who ask questions anti-science, anti-vax, whatever, when we are asking the questions that should be asked.

          9. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            not the questions, the misrepresentations and lies… yes.

          10. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Name the lies.
            Name the misrepresentations.

          11. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            numerous and unending…. guy… the whole Nuremberg idiocy ….

          12. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            You read the Nuremberg Code, right?
            Does emergency use authorization mean it is an experimental medical product? Oh, it’s approved, just not available, and every single shot is EUA, which “coincidentally” shields Pfizer from liability, and Pfizer just filed EUA for a fourth shot for over 65, so why file for EUA if it is approved? A shell game and you are either stupid or willfully blind. So every single shot to date is an experimental medical product. Therefore, every single shot under Article 1 of the Nuremberg Code required informed, willing consent. Every shot administered without informed willing consent is a violation of the Nuremberg Code. Violating the Nuremberg Code is a crime against humanity. Prove me wrong in one thing above.

          13. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            this is what I mean Walter. In no way, shape or form is there a remote connection but you and others with that kind of thinking do. It’s just off the charts.

          14. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            If you did in the courtroom as a lawyer what you do here, you’d be disbarred.

          15. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Waiting for the lies Larry.
            Candor before the tribunal.
            So lying is bad now? We can agree that lying is bad? No matter who is doing it?

          16. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            misrepresenting what VAERS is and is not is an example. so are lies about masks and vaccines.

            you can’t do this without losing credibility IMHO. it’s just over the top.

          17. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Name a misrepresentation about VAERS.
            Name a “lie” about masks. Disagreeing about something that is not known to be true and that you do not believe is itself true is not a lie.
            I’m sorry that all of the SCIENCE! other than the CDC acknowledges masks don’t work. Maybe you should ask your Delegate to submit for legislation that disagreeing with the CDC is a lie.

          18. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Walter, I’ve read enough of your stuff to know the difference between an opinion, a view, and misrepresenting facts and worse. You make claims that are simply not true. You got it bad, guy.

          19. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Hmmm…seeming short on evidence there, Larry…

          20. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Here’s another VAERS conspiracy theorist – https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/the-cdc-knew-in-january-2021-that?s=r
            He’s offered a million dollars to have a debate with the CDC. Why don’t you and one of your CDC friends take him on? I mean, easy money, amirite?

          21. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            the anti-govt folks using VAERS in ways that the agency itself warns not to is an example of the lunacy of these folks… https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.htmll but you folks just go on like the guidance is not there. Why do you waste bandwidth over such obvious misrepresentations?

          22. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Larry – unlike you, I hit your stupid link to read it, because I actually read and think and got this – Error!
            The government says don’t misuse data. I agree. And that applies to the government also. Look at the data. Is it telling you anything? What?
            At some point, you science denying so called SCIENCE! believers will have to actually look at what is happening. I am not “anti-vaccine”. I am anti-mandate. And there are plenty of reasons to be so. First, simply as a matter of natural law, you have to allow exemptions on the my body, my choice line. Second, most people don’t need it. Why do they have to incur risk? Third, if you get natural immunity, that is superior. Fourth, we don’t know the long term effects. We’re you around for Thalidomide? Ancient medical principle is first, do no harm. I am sorry so many of you Leftists are totalitarians, just salivating at controlling people. It is why you really shouldn’t have power. And was part of the original DHS point of his article, which he was projecting on Pubbies after we had suffered through it with Gov Coonman Blackface and all the State and Federal apparat. None of this would have been necessary if the science denying I am science proclaimers had dropped the mask virtue-signaling. You need to drop it, too. This is akin to you crazy zealots with Robert Mueller prayer candles. Viruses virus. Life has risks. Live like free Americans.

          23. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            The govt collects the data AND KNOWS it’s use and limitations AND tells people that. some folks don’t know how to discern guidance and warnings and just go on believing what they want to instead. . Re: ” I am not “anti-vaccine” after saying it’s not safe and actually is not a vaccine, you say this? This is alice-in-wonderland Walter. You contradict your own words then claim you don’t.

            Then you go to other things not remotely connected – name-calling coonman and Mueller prayer candles. I give up on you – it’ total looney tunes… sorry.

          24. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Thank you. If you give up on me, then I can save a lot of time trying to convince a government-loving zealot to convert from his misplaced religious zeal love of government

          25. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            I guess this guy is a liar, too…
            https://mark-skidmore.com/2022/02/15/how-many-people-died-from-the-covid-19-inoculations/
            You can link his full paper. He has an interesting footnote that he is using VAERS and OpenVAERS data because some cases disappear from VAERS.
            Nobody says VAERS is perfect. Nobody says every report is true. But that is a long, long way from saying everything is trash. The “vaccine” is not as safe and effective as advertised. Is it so hard to admit that, or are you good with people getting hurt so your side won’t be proved wrong?

          26. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            “This is like ignoring VAERS data. Something is going on. The “vaccine” is not as “safe and effective” as advertised. What is going on? Why is that a crime to ask?”

            Asked and answered more than once yet you continue to demagogue this issue….

          27. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            And you continue to put your head in the sand…
            Is VAERS data way higher than historical?
            This Canadian doctor is part of the right wing white supremacists, amirite?
            https://youtu.be/aPFweiO44xo

          28. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Well on the surface, this Canadian “doctor” is not an MD, as far as I can tell, she has done no real world work but instead has been pursuing various degrees. She is fund raising heavily off her anti-vax position, and is backed by another anti-vax (not just anti-Covid vax but across the board anti-vax) organization who gave her their first anti-vax award.

            This tells you a lot right here. From her bio… “She took a break following completion of the final Post Doc in December 2019 in perfect sync with the declaration of the global ‘pandemic’.”

            https://covexit.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Short_Biography_Dr_Rose.pdf

            Why do you think she put “pandemic” in quotes? Not just anti-vax, and not a “doctor”, but a “pandemic” denialist to boot.

            Honestly, you can probably do better…

            …and why bring up white supremacy…?? Man the propaganda is getting heavy!!

          29. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Try this one, Full Troll
            https://amgreatness.com/2022/03/15/military-doctor-testifies-in-court-that-a-superior-ordered-her-not-to-discuss-data-showing-massive-spikes-in-illness-after-vaccine-mandate/
            Nothing says certainty like not putting up witnesses, tampering with witnesses and suppressing military medical data.
            Canadian argument was mostly on math. You know the close incidence of events to the shot…all coincidence…
            So glad you spent time looking at reasons to discredit her as opposed to considering the evidence…
            And you’ll ignore this evidence. Religious zealots gotta religious zealot…even for a false religion.

          30. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            And that one testified on findings from a corrupted database…. apparently she knew the data was corrupted and was told not to testify but did anyway…. smh…

          31. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Then why won’t the Navy put up witnesses? Witness tampering is ok? I thought you Lefties loved whistleblowers, or is that only when they are making up bogus grounds for impeachment? You remember Eric Chiamarella – who used to work for Biden – who heard second hand from Lt Col Vindmann – he was Ukrainian, right? – and OrangeMan wasn’t following the “inter-agency” process…yeah, I’ll take lectures on propriety from you. Any excuse not to examine the data! But I understand the crisis of faith (well, your faith) that would follow…

          32. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            You want me to examine data from a corrupt database…🤷‍♂️… that’s how propaganda is done, I suppose…

          33. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Good try Troll.
            Isn’t it “convenient” that the data is corrupted for 2016-2020… But you trust everything the Govt says! So how is that even possible? Doesn’t the “defense” that the data is corrupted kinda indicate that maybe the Govt data shouldn’t be blindly trusted… Sorry for that inconvenient point. Meanwhile, the 2021 data is accurate and shows huge increases, which you could actually know, but you don’t want to… What does Soros pay you to lie and deflect the truth?
            https://brownstone.org/articles/the-militarys-abusive-imposition-of-mandatory-covid-vaccinations/

          34. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Huge increases against what baseline… you mean the corrupted data baseline…? Really, do better…

            Can you tell Soros I am expected a big payday for working overtime fighting your propaganda here?!

          35. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Nice try again. Within the 2021 data which is not corrupted, the numbers spike … after “vaccinating” with a vaccine that isn’t a vaccine. I guess people in the military need to be lab rats for you to feel secure? Or do they need more micro-aggression and LGBTQ+ training so they can lose wars to your satisfaction?

          36. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            “The DOD validated the accuracy of the 2021 data, which indicated large increases in diagnoses in relation to the [corrupted] 2016-2020 baseline.”

            From the very article you posted … smh… (I added the correction text in []…)

          37. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Full Troll – it is amazing to watch. Politifact and Lead Stories and others put out the “data is corrupted” and that’s all you need. Meanwhile, we are seeing huge spikes in normal, and you guys refuse to look. You are horrible, evil people, letting people die all so you won’t be wrong or to support your Marxist team. Most people didn’t need the shot. Far and away most people. And most people didn’t die from Covid. You like being a tool of Big Pharma? And you say Republican Insurance Companies are corrupting healthcare. The CDC/FDA Covid policy of go home and if you get worse go to the hospital is probably responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths and many hospitalizations. It’s truly sick. But you cling to rooting for your team. I’ll give you Demmings credit though, you follow orders – RESIST! RUSSIA! IMPEACH! COVID! INSURRECTION!UKRAINE! It would be nice if you lived in the real world…

          38. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            So when you are challenged because the data you provided as proof is corrupted you fall back to your old trusted and repeated propaganda lines… alas, it is what you do.

          39. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith
          40. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            And ignore this one, too…
            https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/the-cdc-knew-in-january-2021-that?s=r
            Please watch the Sargeant Schultz bit over and over too.
            VAERS can’t be trusted. The Military data is corrupted (won’t say how much, but will use for an entire excuse). How come if military data can be wrong… any other portion of the government can’t be wrong?
            So, when wrong to your benefit, A OK: when alleged wrong contrary to your religion of government worship, how dare you!

          41. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            “Well on the surface, this Canadian “doctor” is not an MD, as far as I can tell, she has done no real world work but instead has been pursuing various degrees.”

            Regardless of the commentary that statement right there is an Ad Hom attack. A Ph.D. is still a post doctorate degree (as is an Ed.D.) and furthermore an M.D. isn’t the only pathway to becoming a Doctor. D.O.’s are Physicians and carrying the same privilege’s as M.D. and you can even take the M.D. boards. There are also NP’s who practice medicine in the same manner.

          42. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Questioning the credentials of an expert witness is part of any court case. That is not an ad hom attack – if it is, it is no less valid critique. At least a D.O. still has to attend med school. This particular expert never attended med school and never practiced medicine. She admits that she went straight from college to her current shtick… (ok, that last bit may be a little ad hommy… but accurate nonetheless…)

          43. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            The problem being, you disregarded their opinion predicated upon not holding an M.D and discounted it according to that barrier alone. The vast number of immunologist and virologists who populate the NIH and private groups are PH.D., an M.D. is not required in that field of study and even Dr. Fauci’s M.D. was merely his stepping stone. He is in fact an internal medicine Physician who no formal medical training in the virology field.

            “This particular expert never attended med school and never practiced medicine.”

            Again, as you double down on your opinion, an M.D. is not required to be an expert in virology and immunology and quiet frankly most aren’t practicing Physicians.

            https://www.zippia.com/virologist-jobs/education/

            https://gsas.harvard.edu/programs-of-study/all/virology

            “She admits that she went straight from college to her current shtick… (ok, that last bit may be a little ad hommy… but accurate nonetheless…)”

          44. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            “The problem being, you disregarded their opinion predicated upon not holding an M.D and discounted it according to that barrier alone.”

            Not true, no MD AND no experience but suddenly an expert… who is fund-raising off her opinion to boot.

          45. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            “Eric the half a troll Matt Adams • a minute ago
            “The problem being, you disregarded their opinion predicated upon not holding an M.D and discounted it according to that barrier alone.”

            Not true, no medical training AND no experience but suddenly an expert… who is fund-raising off her opinion to boot.”

            Eric that’s exactly what you did and which was further eluded to in your own admitted ad hom attack.

            Being an M.D. has nothing to do with data or science and frankly to claim otherwise is a folly. Again, a vast majority of individuals who specialize in the field of virology are not M.D. credentialed individuals.

            If someone earns a Ph.D. I differ to their ability to understand things in their given field. Right, wrong or indifferent on her opinion, she holds several Ph.D.’s and has had to defend all of her thesis on those topics to receive that degree.

            In her capacity as a Data Analyst reviewing the VAERS data and looking for trends, she is well qualified.

            If you want to disagree with her opinion or findings, do so using data and evidence. The mere discounting of her because you don’t think she’s qualified is not a sound basis.

          46. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            “Eric the half a troll Matt Adams • a minute ago
            “The problem being, you disregarded their opinion predicated upon not holding an M.D and discounted it according to that barrier alone.”

            Not true, no medical training AND no experience but suddenly an expert… who is fund-raising off her opinion to boot.”

            Eric that’s exactly what you did and which was further eluded to in your own admitted ad hom attack.

            Being an M.D. has nothing to do with data or science and frankly to claim otherwise is a folly. Again, a vast majority of individuals who specialize in the field of virology are not M.D. credentialed individuals.

            If someone earns a Ph.D. I differ to their ability to understand things in their given field. Right, wrong or indifferent on her opinion, she holds several Ph.D.’s and has had to defend all of her thesis on those topics to receive that degree.

            In her capacity as a Data Analyst reviewing the VAERS data and looking for trends, she is well qualified.

            If you want to disagree with her opinion or findings, do so using data and evidence. The mere discounting of her because you don’t think she’s qualified is not a sound basis.

          47. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Safe and effective, over and over and over, paid for by the government and blared ar us non-stop. And now the Pfizer CEO says a 4th shot is needed… I don’t recall that for mumps, measles, tetanus, etc…
            Is that the new definition of effective?
            https://www.wbir.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccine-fourth-dose-pfizer/85-c55601c1-4584-4270-9374-53c5e525afbe
            I guess like the new and improved definition of “safe” – if we don’t see it because we won’t look and we won’t spend a billion telling you about problems, it’s safe! And you’re a racist!
            Cling to your shibboleths…

          48. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Mumps, measles and tetanus are not viruses… sheesh…!! The effectiveness of the vaccine is well documented here and elsewhere. Where do I sign up for my fourth dose??!!

          49. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            You can, and I have no problem with that. I have a problem with zealots like you mandating medical treatment with a still experimental product for people you don’t know.

          50. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            I don’t believe there are any so-called “mandates” for even the third booster shot let alone the fourth…. so… nope…

  8. DJRippert Avatar
    DJRippert

    It’s commentary like this that makes me wonder if the proponents of CRT aren’t, to some extent, right. AL Philpott was a segregationist who supported some aspects of Massive Resistance. He wouldn’t go as far as voting to close the schools but he was clearly a segregationist. Later in life (circa 1985) he supported Doug Wilder’s candidacy for governor and his support was considered a contributor to Doug Wilder’s victory.

    Like so much of Virginia, as seen through the eyes of the Plantation Elite, the old, conservative, rural Democrats who formed the bedrock of the Byrd Machine are lauded for their knowledge of Virginia code while their support of segregation is ignored.

    The “Lion of the Southside” was a complex man who eventually came to see the light, albeit much later than he should have come to see the light.

    However, those who make heroes out of segregationists like AL Philpott without mentioning his flaws do their readers a disservice and perpetuate the fallacy of the “happy slaves” in recounting Virginia history.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      TC Williams also?

    2. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      Coming from the same area of the state as Philpott, I
      certainly am aware of his segregationist past.
      I probably would disagree with him on a number of issues, as well. However, I do not think that past is relevant to my point that Philpott, one of the most knowledgeable persons regarding the Virginia Code, would have thought that one-sentence statute, setting forth a broad general philosophy or policy, was bad law. If I had written an article devoted primarily to Philpott’s skill as a politician and his knowledge of the law without discussing his segregationist roots, your objection would be justified.

      1. DJRippert Avatar
        DJRippert

        When you bring up a politician that is 30 years in the grave I think you have to contextualize the man or woman.

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        Matt Adams

        “I cannot remember where you have stood in this debate over the founders, but your objection is the other side of the coin in which progressives argue that we should not honor George Washington because he owned slaves. At least, Philpott came to see that he was wrong.”

        The problem with the George Washington comparison is that it’s an exercise in Presentism (also if you believe that Washington didn’t find himself in conflict with his ownership of slaves you’ve not read enough about the man). While Mr. Philpott was a contemporary during the Civil Rights movement.

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    walter smith

    Back to the main point of the article about executive power, here is why all citizens need to take back the power…
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-democrats-biden-declare-climate-emergency-ban-oil-drilling-federal-lands
    I would limit Governor emergency to 7 days before legislative approval must follow IF we even have to have it. Climate change, Gun violence, illiteracy, etc…

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